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Post by inthestand on Nov 8, 2020 20:23:40 GMT
Just been watching with my father in law..pretty ambitious rhetoric off RR and RE...going to make Wrexham a footballing global force..skys the limit..jeez
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Post by Lobster on Nov 8, 2020 21:16:24 GMT
Just been watching with my father in law..pretty ambitious rhetoric off RR and RE...going to make Wrexham a footballing global force.. skys the limit..jeez The sky's blue and white!  |
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Post by Matt on Nov 8, 2020 21:48:45 GMT
Can only see this lasting for so long but they could get one hell of a ride out of it. Footballs gone to the wall so they might as well go for it although I never thought they’d give up on fan ownership.
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Post by Moltisanti on Nov 8, 2020 22:07:36 GMT
Can’t this crap go in the Grazing Paddock thread in Off Topic?
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 8, 2020 22:11:57 GMT
I never thought they’d give up on fan ownership. Neither did I but they think they should be in League One and they’re being promised the earth. |
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Post by hbomb on Nov 8, 2020 22:21:12 GMT
I never thought they’d give up on fan ownership. Neither did I but they think they should be in League One and they’re being promised the earth. Only league 1? Talking to some of them they should considered for the European Super League. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 22:27:00 GMT
Neither did I but they think they should be in League One and they’re being promised the earth. Only league 1? Talking to some of them they should considered for the European Super League. For a national league club they’re a big fish in a small pond but there’s some massive hitters in league 1 these days that they’d never get near. They’ve got nothing to lose in current climate. Now, who’s coming in for us? 😂😂 |
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Post by forevercfc on Nov 8, 2020 23:09:07 GMT
Am thinking ee maybe get in touch with Hugh Jackman, him and Mr Deadpool seem to have been going at it for a while. Imagine our very own Lupas would love a kick about with Wolverine at half time every home game.
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Post by cameandabel on Nov 9, 2020 7:09:55 GMT
A lot of the focus has been on Reynolds but I get the impression it’s his mate Rob who is the one who is really passionate about this and has spent time really trying to gain an understanding of the club and area.
Bit weird that they mentioned Chester multiple times in their mission statement, considering they are already in a higher league than us and were regularly getting bigger crowds pre-Covid. Seems like a desperate attempt to convey to their fans that they get the rivalry.
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Nov 9, 2020 9:10:02 GMT
Saw the statement. For a pub team we aren't half enjoying real estate in their heads.
Good luck to them, I guess you have got to shoot for the stars and these investors seem to have real money. Cant help but look 10 years down the line though when the novelty of at best League 1 football has worn off and the debts are mounting. As with Chester, Wrexham have no collateral so success is essential if they want any kind of return.
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Post by Lobster on Nov 9, 2020 9:40:48 GMT
I've not seen it, but it all sounds a little bit cringey. A Hollywood film star stoking up a lower league/non-rivalry? It's not really what the rivalry's about, is it?
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Post by englishred on Nov 9, 2020 10:03:57 GMT
At the end of the day they were always going to say something about you lot. It is playing to the gallery isn't it? Pretty meaningless but a bit of fun. If roles were reversed I'm sure the same sort of stuff would be being said about us.
If we can get back into the league, repair the stadium, increase our revenue, increase crowds, properly invest in our youth teams, build a proper training ground... all stuff we dontnhave the means to do at the moment, that will be enough for me tbh. I don't think any sensible Wrexham fan expects us to fly into the Premier League. They are talking about growing the club, and in a period where there is a very real risk we will contract, and end up semi pro further down the pyramid or in the Welsh system, its an opportunity we can't turn down regardless of risks.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Nov 9, 2020 10:11:46 GMT
If their only ambition is to beat us then I can see them languishing in non-league for a long while yet.
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Post by superman on Nov 9, 2020 10:18:47 GMT
The 2 guys involved obviously have very deep pockets. If they have the patience to match then this could be as good as it gets in the short to medium term. They like us are going nowhere fast under the current regimes and climate. In the medium to long term who knows. It will be an interesting watch.
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Post by rossettred on Nov 9, 2020 10:22:50 GMT
Their presentation and the answers given to questions were excellent in my view - they came across very well.
You would expect them to mention the rivalry with Chester - however cringeworthy they knew it would go down well with some supporters - and it was said jokingly!
I'm not looking too far into the future - we need this takeover now otherwise the only place we would be heading is the NLN.
Of course Chester supporters would would turn down the opportunity of being owned by guys with circa £700 mill in the bank - wouldn't you?
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Post by sealandender1 on Nov 9, 2020 10:24:00 GMT
At the end of the day they were always going to say something about you lot. It is playing to the gallery isn't it? Pretty meaningless but a bit of fun. If roles were reversed I'm sure the same sort of stuff would be being said about us. If we can get back into the league, repair the stadium, increase our revenue, increase crowds, properly invest in our youth teams, build a proper training ground... all stuff we dontnhave the means to do at the moment, that will be enough for me tbh. I don't think any sensible Wrexham fan expects us to fly into the Premier League. They are talking about growing the club, and in a period where there is a very real risk we will contract, and end up semi pro further down the pyramid or in the Welsh system, its an opportunity we can't turn down regardless of risks. English Red what have you been drinking? You’ve got more chance of making an appointment with Michael Reginald Thomas at The Royal Bank of Mochdre and asking for a few bundles of his £9 notes!!! |
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Post by englishred on Nov 9, 2020 11:26:24 GMT
At the end of the day they were always going to say something about you lot. It is playing to the gallery isn't it? Pretty meaningless but a bit of fun. If roles were reversed I'm sure the same sort of stuff would be being said about us. If we can get back into the league, repair the stadium, increase our revenue, increase crowds, properly invest in our youth teams, build a proper training ground... all stuff we dontnhave the means to do at the moment, that will be enough for me tbh. I don't think any sensible Wrexham fan expects us to fly into the Premier League. They are talking about growing the club, and in a period where there is a very real risk we will contract, and end up semi pro further down the pyramid or in the Welsh system, its an opportunity we can't turn down regardless of risks. English Red what have you been drinking? You’ve got more chance of making an appointment with Michael Reginald Thomas at The Royal Bank of Mochdre and asking for a few bundles of his £9 notes!!! What? |
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Post by sealandender1 on Nov 9, 2020 11:54:33 GMT
English Red what have you been drinking? You’ve got more chance of making an appointment with Michael Reginald Thomas at The Royal Bank of Mochdre and asking for a few bundles of his £9 notes!!! What? Try 1993! |
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Post by utb on Nov 9, 2020 12:13:45 GMT
To coin a John Coleman phrase, I feel physically sick to be honest. Just when you think 2020 can't come and kick you in the bollocks anymore.
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Post by inthestand on Nov 9, 2020 16:22:57 GMT
At the end of the day they were always going to say something about you lot. It is playing to the gallery isn't it? Pretty meaningless but a bit of fun. If roles were reversed I'm sure the same sort of stuff would be being said about us. If we can get back into the league, repair the stadium, increase our revenue, increase crowds, properly invest in our youth teams, build a proper training ground... all stuff we dontnhave the means to do at the moment, that will be enough for me tbh. I don't think any sensible Wrexham fan expects us to fly into the Premier League. They are talking about growing the club, and in a period where there is a very real risk we will contract, and end up semi pro further down the pyramid or in the Welsh system, its an opportunity we can't turn down regardless of risks. hasn't 2020 been one hell of a crazy year, being given banter about Wrexham football club off Ryan Reynolds is something i really didn't expect, strange things do happen!!...to be fair i cant blame you lot for leaving the fan owned model and to be honest i was a great advocate of it at first here, but its give both our supporters not much hope with not much light at the end of the tunnel either..... Putting in place a top class experienced CEO, offering free money and no loans, just cash injection for players, revamping your ground and putting in a state of the art training facility really cant be turned down, our two clubs have suffered dodgy owners in the past bringing us both to the edge of extinction, but i can see this as a once in a life time move for you lot, ...so good luck to you and hope it all works out..just hope one day we meet you in the FA cup...and give you payback...as i said "strange things do happen!!" |
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Post by mabinogion on Nov 12, 2020 0:49:34 GMT
Basically, for Wrexham what is our alternative. We wither on the vine & fall further down the leagues into obscurity. After getting the assurances the fans wanted from R&R there really is nothing to lose is there? If it fails the worst case scenario is a Phoenix club like yourselves & which is probably where we are heading at the moment anyway. It’s death by a thousand cuts, very slow & painful to watch.
This way we at least get a bit of a journey along the way & you just never know.
As a footnote, if we do manage a couple of promotions along the way I’d love Chester to follow us. Weather we admit it or not, we love playing each other & besides it would be great for another Welsh club to get promoted with us ;-) ..........
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Post by scotty on Nov 12, 2020 1:25:51 GMT
Since WST have set a precedent, I have a proposal for them.
There is a company near me that is struggling. If WST can raise millions of pounds between them at maybe £10/month direct debit, donate hundreds of thousands of unpaid volunteer hours, rattle tins and sell direct debits, after four of five years of blood sweat and toil by hundreds of people it might be a viable business.
At this point you sell it to me for ZERO pounds. I employ myself as CEO on £2 million per year.
If it goes to shit? What do I care? I've got my £2 million!!
Extreme analogy, I know. But I can't believe how stupid they are. I feel like slapping the entire Board in the face with a dead haddock and shouting "WTF ARE YOU THINKING?"
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Post by cfc1885 on Nov 12, 2020 1:43:40 GMT
Since WST have set a precedent, I have a proposal for them. There is a company near me that is struggling. If WST can raise millions of pounds between them at maybe £10/month direct debit, donate hundreds of thousands of unpaid volunteer hours, rattle tins and sell direct debits, after four of five years of blood sweat and toil by hundreds of people it might be a viable business. At this point you sell it to me for ZERO pounds. I employ myself as CEO on £2 million per year. If it goes to shit? What do I care? I've got my £2 million!! Extreme analogy, I know. But I can't believe how stupid they are. I feel like slapping the entire Board in the face with a dead haddock and shouting "WTF ARE YOU THINKING?" Why you arsed i hope it all goes wrong and they liqudate it will be a fantastic day |
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Post by eyeswideopen on Nov 13, 2020 12:26:57 GMT
Since WST have set a precedent, I have a proposal for them. There is a company near me that is struggling. If WST can raise millions of pounds between them at maybe £10/month direct debit, donate hundreds of thousands of unpaid volunteer hours, rattle tins and sell direct debits, after four of five years of blood sweat and toil by hundreds of people it might be a viable business. At this point you sell it to me for ZERO pounds. I employ myself as CEO on £2 million per year. If it goes to shit? What do I care? I've got my £2 million!! Extreme analogy, I know. But I can't believe how stupid they are. I feel like slapping the entire Board in the face with a dead haddock and shouting "WTF ARE YOU THINKING?" Exactly this. I had a fair bit of empathy for them a few years back as they were in a similar position to us. I see a previous poster has no desire to wither on the vine and fall down the leagues, FFS they have been in the same league for over ten years, they made the play offs 3 times, albeit they bottled it but even so. A couple of poor seasons narrowly avoiding the drop last term but in the whole you have found a level you should be comfortable playing in. You dont need a sugar daddy film star to promise you the world to get you up the leagues, you need to continue the hard work that ordinary fans have done, appoint a manager that knows what they are doing and stick with them. We almost went down this route and a few heads got turned, but some had the sense to ask awkward questions and the benefactor and saviour soon scuttled off and he was an alleged true blue. We have took some stick from the goats over the years that we killed our club, at least we can hold our heads up and say we haven't prostituted ourselves out to the first big wallet that comes flashing their knob out to. It will all end in tears, but this time there will be no diehards to pick up the pieces.The same people that put all that work in first time must be gutted. |
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Post by g1 on Nov 13, 2020 12:53:55 GMT
The ceo they r talking about I hope its Maguire anyway my other point when the takeover does happen something that hasn't been mentioned yet will they stick with keates as according to a friend of mine they are not playing for him he also he has a big contract so it will take money to sack him
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Post by Si on Nov 13, 2020 13:37:57 GMT
Since WST have set a precedent, I have a proposal for them. There is a company near me that is struggling. If WST can raise millions of pounds between them at maybe £10/month direct debit, donate hundreds of thousands of unpaid volunteer hours, rattle tins and sell direct debits, after four of five years of blood sweat and toil by hundreds of people it might be a viable business. At this point you sell it to me for ZERO pounds. I employ myself as CEO on £2 million per year. If it goes to shit? What do I care? I've got my £2 million!! Extreme analogy, I know. But I can't believe how stupid they are. I feel like slapping the entire Board in the face with a dead haddock and shouting "WTF ARE YOU THINKING?" Exactly this. I had a fair bit of empathy for them a few years back as they were in a similar position to us. I see a previous poster has no desire to wither on the vine and fall down the leagues, FFS they have been in the same league for over ten years, they made the play offs 3 times, albeit they bottled it but even so. A couple of poor seasons narrowly avoiding the drop last term but in the whole you have found a level you should be comfortable playing in. You dont need a sugar daddy film star to promise you the world to get you up the leagues, you need to continue the hard work that ordinary fans have done, appoint a manager that knows what they are doing and stick with them. We almost went down this route and a few heads got turned, but some had the sense to ask awkward questions and the benefactor and saviour soon scuttled off and he was an alleged true blue. We have took some stick from the goats over the years that we killed our club, at least we can hold our heads up and say we haven't prostituted ourselves out to the first big wallet that comes flashing their knob out to. It will all end in tears, but this time there will be no diehards to pick up the pieces.The same people that put all that work in first time must be gutted. Perhaps Wrexham fans can enlighten me, but what has been the perceived issue with fan ownership for them? On the face of it, they are competitive in that league and have been able to have really good budgets due to developing young players with sell on clauses and some good cup runs - that's what fan owned clubs should be aspiring to, so what exactly has gone wrong there? Seems that they were a bit unfortunate in losing managers such as Ricketts and Keates when they were early in their time with the club but doing pretty well so got poached, but that's the nature of appointing younger managers with potential. All seemed to start going a bit iffy when they begged Barrow to take the job even though he made it clear he didn't really want it, and reappointing Keates didn't seem to sit right with fans who felt he left them in lurch first time around. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2020 15:49:27 GMT
Since WST have set a precedent, I have a proposal for them. There is a company near me that is struggling. If WST can raise millions of pounds between them at maybe £10/month direct debit, donate hundreds of thousands of unpaid volunteer hours, rattle tins and sell direct debits, after four of five years of blood sweat and toil by hundreds of people it might be a viable business. At this point you sell it to me for ZERO pounds. I employ myself as CEO on £2 million per year. If it goes to shit? What do I care? I've got my £2 million!! Extreme analogy, I know. But I can't believe how stupid they are. I feel like slapping the entire Board in the face with a dead haddock and shouting "WTF ARE YOU THINKING?" Why you arsed i hope it all goes wrong and they liqudate it will be a fantastic day Oh dear you really need to keep awake during English class dont you ? For the record most of us sensible people would never be happy when any club is liquidated and that includes Chester. Its good to read so many of you coming up with constructive thoughts on what will be a certain buy out by two highly respected people . Our future looks rosy at long last with exciting times ahead . Some one asked what went wrong with the fans owned model well in my opinion :1) the fans in realty never had much say in the day to day activities of the club that was hijacked by a small number of people who used WAFC as their own personal play thing and ignored the true owners (fans) opinions on many occations. 2) we never really got to grips with the manager situation ( Barrow was a joke as was Hughes and Mills and as for Keates !!!) we went from one reasonable one to utter tripe . 3) too many clubs were and still are funded by suger daddies ( yes I know we are about to join them ) and its difficult to keep up with those with cash,4) we made reasonable revenue but the hijackers wasted most of it and would have continued doing the same thing year on year. I could go on but in a nut shell fans owned club principle sounds fine but in reality it doesnt work so its on to a much more exciting future with owners that truly care about sucess not just survival year on year !
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Post by Wortleyblue on Nov 13, 2020 16:17:19 GMT
Why you arsed i hope it all goes wrong and they liqudate it will be a fantastic day Oh dear you really need to keep awake during English class dont you ? For the record most of us sensible people would never be happy when any club is liquidated and that includes Chester. Its good to read so many of you coming up with constructive thoughts on what will be a certain buy out by two highly respected people . Our future looks rosy at long last with exciting times ahead . Some one asked what went wrong with the fans owned model well in my opinion :1) the fans in realty never had much say in the day to day activities of the club that was hijacked by a small number of people who used WAFC as their own personal play thing and ignored the true owners (fans) opinions on many occations. 2) we never really got to grips with the manager situation ( Barrow was a joke as was Hughes and Mills and as for Keates !!!) we went from one reasonable one to utter tripe . 3) too many clubs were and still are funded by suger daddies ( yes I know we are about to join them ) and its difficult to keep up with those with cash,4) we made reasonable revenue but the hijackers wasted most of it and would have continued doing the same thing year on year. I could go on but in a nut shell fans owned club principle sounds fine but in reality it doesnt work so its on to a much more exciting future with owners that truly care about sucess not just survival year on year !
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Post by Wortleyblue on Nov 13, 2020 20:22:45 GMT
They are actors FFS and are very good at making people think they are something else They're also incredibly successful businessman. Stop being so bitter. It was a warning that things aren't always what they seem. Stop being so envious all that glitters is not gold |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 13, 2020 21:06:08 GMT
They're also incredibly successful businessman. Stop being so bitter. It was a warning that things aren't always what they seem. Stop being so envious all that glitters is not gold To be fair most Chester fans are coming across as jealous. Triggered on Twitter. |
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