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Post by rainhillblue9 on Nov 24, 2020 23:01:23 GMT
You can see why they don’t lose many home games,Big tough team and apart from the goalies mistake for the second goal I thought the defence played very well. Feel sorry for York they haveonly lplayed 4 games,they are going to have real fixture congestion in the new year.
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Post by chesterken on Nov 24, 2020 23:10:21 GMT
You can see why they don’t lose many home games,Big tough team and apart from the goalies mistake for the second goal I thought the defence played very well. Feel sorry for York they haveonly lplayed 4 games,they are going to have real fixture congestion in the new year. Let’s not forget Boston another favourite for promotion have only played 4 games.
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Post by Anders on Nov 25, 2020 1:45:05 GMT
Bit frustrated we couldn’t make more of tonight but at the same time understand we’ve been thrusted straight back in to it. It was a tight bad pitch and they are the draw specialists so far. Can’t say for sure if their second goal was offside but it looked suspiciously like it was and even if it wasn’t it appeared to be a bit of a howler from Gray following that. Wasn’t convinced the changes in the second half would do anything, I might have brought one of Jackson or Johnston on to freshen it up a bit but not both. We couldn’t get hold of the ball after that.
We do generally seem to fashion out enough chances which are often wasted, but at the same time I can’t help but feel we look a bit predictable at the same time. Think I’d like to see Hughes & Marsh-Hughes given more of a go personally.
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Nov 25, 2020 8:25:45 GMT
Bit frustrated we couldn’t make more of tonight but at the same time understand we’ve been thrusted straight back in to it. It was a tight bad pitch and they are the draw specialists so far. Can’t say for sure if their second goal was offside but it looked suspiciously like it was and even if it wasn’t it appeared to be a bit of a howler from Gray following that. Wasn’t convinced the changes in the second half would do anything, I might have brought one of Jackson or Johnston on to freshen it up a bit but not both. We couldn’t get hold of the ball after that. We do generally seem to fashion out enough chances which are often wasted, but at the same time I can’t help but feel we look a bit predictable at the same time. Think I’d like to see Hughes & Marsh-Hughes given more of a go personally. Good assessment for me that. Thought the wingers coming on lost us the impetus, neither of them got anywhere near the ball and Jackson looks a little way off match fitness. Matty Hughes pressing their defence may have been a better option for the again ineffective Anthony Dudley. Happy that Morgan will play on Saturday. I know JT is suspended, but I'd have rested him anyway as he is going through some wretched form and yes, the Johnson / Morley / CFC goalkeeper curse does seem to be in play again. Positives though, first 20 minutes we could have been out of sight. I thought Weeks was excellent and Lacey gives us a bit of height in the middle that we have lacked for a while. Glendon decent on a tractor pull track, and Danny Livesey is imperious, and we were not beaten. Onto Gateshead Saturday, hopefully Goodwin or Marsh-Hughes in the squad.
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Post by Harry Lime on Nov 25, 2020 8:32:29 GMT
Bit frustrated we couldn’t make more of tonight but at the same time understand we’ve been thrusted straight back in to it. It was a tight bad pitch and they are the draw specialists so far. Can’t say for sure if their second goal was offside but it looked suspiciously like it was and even if it wasn’t it appeared to be a bit of a howler from Gray following that. Wasn’t convinced the changes in the second half would do anything, I might have brought one of Jackson or Johnston on to freshen it up a bit but not both. We couldn’t get hold of the ball after that. We do generally seem to fashion out enough chances which are often wasted, but at the same time I can’t help but feel we look a bit predictable at the same time. Think I’d like to see Hughes & Marsh-Hughes given more of a go personally. Fair summation, as usual. The solid midfield, with Dudley in too, certainly worked well first half. Dudley seemed to be less effective as game went on. This left Elliott more isolated. He doesn't seem to have the guile to find space, so we end up playing long balls over the top. Actually this looked fairly simple to do, as they were pushed right up to the half way line at times. Better ball and better movement we'd have been in. The pitch looked a bit like Guiseley's. Long, narrow and poor. Not sure two wingers are ever great on those. Could see the idea of the subs, but didn't work. Jacko looks well off the pace. Not sure if it's injuries, lack of games, covid, lack of confidence, being moved out of position at times to accomodate JJ, or all of the above. I hope Marsh-Hughes gets a chance soon. Or even Hughes or Goodwin. We could try Glendon, Lacey with two from Weeks, Bauress or maybe Dudley across the middle and have Marsh-Hughes and Elliott as a mobile front two. The ball wouldn't come back any more than it does now. If we're going to stick with a solid midfield four, instead of wingers. We could get Crilly back in the squad too. He'd fit into that well.
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Post by Si on Nov 25, 2020 9:25:15 GMT
Bit frustrated we couldn’t make more of tonight but at the same time understand we’ve been thrusted straight back in to it. It was a tight bad pitch and they are the draw specialists so far. Can’t say for sure if their second goal was offside but it looked suspiciously like it was and even if it wasn’t it appeared to be a bit of a howler from Gray following that. Wasn’t convinced the changes in the second half would do anything, I might have brought one of Jackson or Johnston on to freshen it up a bit but not both. We couldn’t get hold of the ball after that. We do generally seem to fashion out enough chances which are often wasted, but at the same time I can’t help but feel we look a bit predictable at the same time. Think I’d like to see Hughes & Marsh-Hughes given more of a go personally. Totally agree with the subs. I commend the managers for wanting to try and win the game but we did have a spell of 10 mins where we were hemmed in defending long throws etc, and it really wasn't the type of game to chuck both of them on. Wouldn't be disappointed to see both of them start on Saturday on our own pitch where we can get the ball down and run at teams. Creatively it's not quite clicking for me. The main tactic seems to be punts over the top to try and get Elliot in and it might only come off 1 in 6 times but then that leaves Elliot more often than not in the channel whereas I would prefer him in the box where he can get his goals. We don't seem to exert spells of pressure on teams, the chances we do carve out sometimes come out of nowhere and very much a reliance on playing quickly on the break. I'd like to see us become a bit more possession based rather than having to watch Elliot scrap for long balls against two big centres halves and the ball coming back at us - we have much better ball players this year so there's no reason why we couldn't do this. I actually like this squad but in terms of the system I don't think the balance is quite right yet. That being said, 2 points away at farmers fields in 4 days with players who have been ill and have barely trained in 3 weeks is still a good effort and that's what you'll always get with this team which is lads giving everything. Late in the game last night there was a moment where Lacey and Roberts both steamed in to tackle one of their players which sums up the collective attitude. Win on Saturday and it becomes a decent enough restart to the season, but it's gonna be a tough game I feel.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Nov 25, 2020 9:39:53 GMT
Bit frustrated we couldn’t make more of tonight but at the same time understand we’ve been thrusted straight back in to it. It was a tight bad pitch and they are the draw specialists so far. Can’t say for sure if their second goal was offside but it looked suspiciously like it was and even if it wasn’t it appeared to be a bit of a howler from Gray following that. Wasn’t convinced the changes in the second half would do anything, I might have brought one of Jackson or Johnston on to freshen it up a bit but not both. We couldn’t get hold of the ball after that. We do generally seem to fashion out enough chances which are often wasted, but at the same time I can’t help but feel we look a bit predictable at the same time. Think I’d like to see Hughes & Marsh-Hughes given more of a go personally. Fair summation, as usual. The solid midfield, with Dudley in too, certainly worked well first half. Dudley seemed to be less effective as game went on. This left Elliott more isolated. He doesn't seem to have the guile to find space, so we end up playing long balls over the top. Actually this looked fairly simple to do, as they were pushed right up to the half way line at times. Better ball and better movement we'd have been in. The pitch looked a bit like Guiseley's. Long, narrow and poor. Not sure two wingers are ever great on those. Could see the idea of the subs, but didn't work. Jacko looks well off the pace. Not sure if it's injuries, lack of games, covid, lack of confidence, being moved out of position at times to accomodate JJ, or all of the above. I hope Marsh-Hughes gets a chance soon. Or even Hughes or Goodwin. We could try Glendon, Lacey with two from Weeks, Bauress or maybe Dudley across the middle and have Marsh-Hughes and Elliott as a mobile front two. The ball wouldn't come back any more than it does now. If we're going to stick with a solid midfield four, instead of wingers. We could get Crilly back in the squad too. He'd fit into that well. Our strikers are not exactly prolific at the moment. Elliott is decent enough and makes some good runs ,but cant play up there on his own Waring is a targetman and is probably better than anyone at holding the ball up, but will never be prolific Hughes and Dudley havent pulled up any trees I would give Marsh Hughes a go asap Goodwin will benefit from game time and would expect him to come back and challenge for place. Also, I agree about Crilly, but he is having a good season at Runcorn.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Nov 25, 2020 23:34:58 GMT
Disappointed with this result to be honest. Overall a draw is a fair outcome because after a very lively first half, the second period was the complete polar opposite with neither side playing particularly well, so from our perspective it just isn’t good enough really. Even though the pitch was atrocious and designed for anti-football, we simply can’t blame it for our failure to pick up a win because we’ve played on plenty of poor surfaces in the past, so we have to find ways of getting around these hurdles. Farsley Celtic were what I expected them to be - a tough, no-nonsense side who weren’t particularly a good team on the ball, but off it they had a solid set-up who did their homework on us.
We started off the game really well by creating a number of chances in the opening 20 minutes, and even in the first five we could’ve been a few up. There were enough opportunities in that half for us to wrap the whole thing up, but once again the story of our season continued with us being too complacent and far tool wasteful in front of goal. Some of the football we played was rather attractive too, which was very pleasant to watch as the hideous pitch didn’t seem to impact us in those opening stages. Of course, I do expect the odd long punt forward considering the quality of football in our league isn’t too inspiring, but after our positive start we all of a sudden didn’t seem to be bothered as we kept belting the ball to no man’s land after that. It rarely ever works and yet again we found out the hard way, with our lack of chances and creativity in the second half apparent. Our array of missed chances bit us in the backside later on in the half as Farsley Celtic went on to take the lead, with Louis Gray making a rare howler. Thankfully Paddy Lacey got us back onto level terms which was welcome, but even then it was still frustrating that we didn’t have a comfortable cushion.
All in all, it was a really entertaining and open first 45 with plenty of goals and end-to-end action, and of course three points still at stake for either side. Putting that into mind I was expecting more of the same going into the second period, but how wrong was I because the quality of football on offer was tedious and hard to watch, I can’t recall us having any opportunities, and it just evolved into a really turgid, scrappy affair in the end. That was a great shame too because I really was expecting another enjoyable half after such an eventful first, but unfortunately the encounter lost its spirit and turned into two sides scrapping it out to hold onto the draw. For some reason we continued to hoof the ball to random areas which, most of the time, either went out for a throw or found a Farsley player, so no wonder we had limited time on the ball. Our creativity was non-existent as well due to the standard of the game ebbing more towards both midfields scrapping it out in the middle, which resulted in our midfield limiting their time on the ball to feed our forwards. Just like on Saturday I was pretty content with our starting XI, but what puzzled me was why we started Anthony Dudley again. He has been very non-existent and ineffective in recent games, and unfortunately even our lengthy break hasn’t helped him to revive his form so I don’t know why he started after a mediocre showing on Saturday. As I said in my post at the start of this thread, we have to start Lloyd Marsh-Hughes or even Matty Hughes, who has strangely been frozen out. I know Matty doesn’t score tonnes and he too has had poor performances in the past, but I feel sorry for him given he’s had very little chances to shine this season. The lad always gives it 100% whenever he plays, and as shown on a number of occasions he can prove to be a right nuisance to opposing defences with his energy, so we definitely have to consider giving him game time on Saturday.
Next up is a tricky home game against Gateshead on Saturday, who beat the league leaders last night. Although I am slightly sceptical of us not winning at least one of our two games since our return, I will feel much more at ease if we secure maximum points on Saturday. If we don’t then no wins in three will have to be deemed as poor, but if we do then 5 points and an unbeaten return will certainly be pleasing given what we have been through. We definitely have to be doing better now though before people begin to feel worried, so we must pull our socks up as we can’t afford to carry on dropping points. I am not being negative by the way - I’m just trying to give us some constructive criticism and a realistic, balanced viewpoint regarding where we are at. If we start to score goals, play the ball on the ground as much as we can, and keep more clean sheets then we will turn into a really dangerous side. However, if things stay as they are another season similar to 2018-19 looks to be on the cards.
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Post by jimianto on Nov 26, 2020 15:04:11 GMT
Disappointed with this result to be honest. Overall a draw is a fair outcome because after a very lively first half, the second period was the complete polar opposite with neither side playing particularly well, so from our perspective it just isn’t good enough really. Even though the pitch was atrocious and designed for anti-football, we simply can’t blame it for our failure to pick up a win because we’ve played on plenty of poor surfaces in the past, so we have to find ways of getting around these hurdles. Farsley Celtic were what I expected them to be - a tough, no-nonsense side who weren’t particularly a good team on the ball, but off it they had a solid set-up who did their homework on us. We started off the game really well by creating a number of chances in the opening 20 minutes, and even in the first five we could’ve been a few up. There were enough opportunities in that half for us to wrap the whole thing up, but once again the story of our season continued with us being too complacent and far tool wasteful in front of goal. Some of the football we played was rather attractive too, which was very pleasant to watch as the hideous pitch didn’t seem to impact us in those opening stages. Of course, I do expect the odd long punt forward considering the quality of football in our league isn’t too inspiring, but after our positive start we all of a sudden didn’t seem to be bothered as we kept belting the ball to no man’s land after that. It rarely ever works and yet again we found out the hard way, with our lack of chances and creativity in the second half apparent. Our array of missed chances bit us in the backside later on in the half as Farsley Celtic went on to take the lead, with Louis Gray making a rare howler. Thankfully Paddy Lacey got us back onto level terms which was welcome, but even then it was still frustrating that we didn’t have a comfortable cushion. All in all, it was a really entertaining and open first 45 with plenty of goals and end-to-end action, and of course three points still at stake for either side. Putting that into mind I was expecting more of the same going into the second period, but how wrong was I because the quality of football on offer was tedious and hard to watch, I can’t recall us having any opportunities, and it just evolved into a really turgid, scrappy affair in the end. That was a great shame too because I really was expecting another enjoyable half after such an eventful first, but unfortunately the encounter lost its spirit and turned into two sides scrapping it out to hold onto the draw. For some reason we continued to hoof the ball to random areas which, most of the time, either went out for a throw or found a Farsley player, so no wonder we had limited time on the ball. Our creativity was non-existent as well due to the standard of the game ebbing more towards both midfields scrapping it out in the middle, which resulted in our midfield limiting their time on the ball to feed our forwards. Just like on Saturday I was pretty content with our starting XI, but what puzzled me was why we started Anthony Dudley again. He has been very non-existent and ineffective in recent games, and unfortunately even our lengthy break hasn’t helped him to revive his form so I don’t know why he started after a mediocre showing on Saturday. As I said in my post at the start of this thread, we have to start Lloyd Marsh-Hughes or even Matty Hughes, who has strangely been frozen out. I know Matty doesn’t score tonnes and he too has had poor performances in the past, but I feel sorry for him given he’s had very little chances to shine this season. The lad always gives it 100% whenever he plays, and as shown on a number of occasions he can prove to be a right nuisance to opposing defences with his energy, so we definitely have to consider giving him game time on Saturday. Next up is a tricky home game against Gateshead on Saturday, who beat the league leaders last night. Although I am slightly sceptical of us not winning at least one of our two games since our return, I will feel much more at ease if we secure maximum points on Saturday. If we don’t then no wins in three will have to be deemed as poor, but if we do then 5 points and an unbeaten return will certainly be pleasing given what we have been through. We definitely have to be doing better now though before people begin to feel worried, so we must pull our socks up as we can’t afford to carry on dropping points. I am not being negative by the way - I’m just trying to give us some constructive criticism and a realistic, balanced viewpoint regarding where we are at. If we start to score goals, play the ball on the ground as much as we can, and keep more clean sheets then we will turn into a really dangerous side. However, if things stay as they are another season similar to 2018-19 looks to be on the cards. I think that FC were good value for their point. You are right that had we gone a couple up, we might well have gone on to win the game and Louis Gray wasn't overly worked. Our midfield worked really well early on a pitch that wasn't conducive to their normal game. I thought first half we played well and were unlucky not to be ahead. I thought Dudley played well in that period. The worrying aspect for me was Kev Roberts giving the ball away almost every time he had it and getting caught out of position a time or 2. Second half Roberts made an excellent block and was no worse than everyone else, as the energy seemed to drain. FC sensed this and a period of sustained pressure was unlucky not to get them another goal. Duds was non-existent second half, it wasn't Elliot's night and the subs were really poor - Brad Jackson is clearly nowhere near fit following his hamstring injury and the stop start beginning to this season. Hopefully we can regenerate the energy for Saturday on a more suitable surface. I am looking forward to Morgan getting his chance and wouldn't mind Matty Hughes getting a go along side Elliot. I think his energy could spark something we've been lacking this season. COYB
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