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Post by chesterken on Nov 28, 2020 16:55:42 GMT
FT 1-2, we got what we deserved. Just about to say the same but we did miss two games 3 games ago.đ
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Post by happyclapper52 on Nov 28, 2020 16:56:25 GMT
Why oh why isn't Matty Hughes played with Elliott
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Post by glosblue on Nov 28, 2020 16:56:26 GMT
Much better second half, and a shame to lose it in the way we did. It would be nice to see an opposing team make such a bad error/goalie throw one in for us for a change.
Goodwin did more in 20 minutes than Johnston has done since he signed - bench him for goodness sake.
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Post by RonD on Nov 28, 2020 16:57:26 GMT
Can't argue with that. Apart from a better spell second half they were far better. Improvement needed on Tuesday.
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Post by Lobster on Nov 28, 2020 16:57:37 GMT
Not happy at the moment. Yes it's a very strange season and it's difficult to come back to three games in a week after not training for so long, but we seem McCarthy-esque at the moment in our ability to throw points away.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2020 17:00:07 GMT
Playing well for 20 minutes per game will not get us anywhere near promotion or, indeed, a playoff place.
I really get the impression that we hold no fear for many teams in this league.
I was half joking when I suggested last week that our regular winter slump may have started... I really hope I wasn't prescient.
Next game is looking increasingly crucial.
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Post by Wortleyblue on Nov 28, 2020 17:00:27 GMT
We need to shake it up for Tuesday night I'd have Bauress in for Johnson hopefully Jackson back in for Morgan and start with Waring and Goodwin up front
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Post by vandycandy on Nov 28, 2020 17:03:30 GMT
Does this team even know what a clean sheet is??? Very poor yet again!! Certainly not good enough for a play off spot & don't even get me started on the lad Johnston good lord he is abysmal he truly is!!
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Nov 28, 2020 17:04:26 GMT
Defensively, we are dreadful There is not enough pace . Grand gave them one goal and almost a second. Dudley and Johnson are nowhere near good or consistent enough. Goodwin did more in 15 minutes than the pair of them did all game Go 4-3-3 With the physical presence of Waring and Goodwin, it would take the presure of Elliott, who would get more chances And get Lacey to sit deeper to cover for the lack of pace, in the centre of defence
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Post by devadiva on Nov 28, 2020 17:04:38 GMT
As we know our problem is up front with the lack of goals. It puts pressure on the gaffers to put JJ and/or BJ into midfield to see if they can create something - but that just makes our midfield too weak. Weâve seen that time and time again this season. Instead of the JJ/BJ option I wish the gaffers would play the midfield we started with in the last two games (which has proved plenty strong enough) and just tinkered with the attack. Goodwin gave a glimpse of what he can offer, so whatâs to lose by giving him (or Hughes) a start?
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Nov 28, 2020 17:05:31 GMT
Didn't create enough over the 90. Gateshead seemed to have the measure of us from the beginning and when you give away a goal as soft as their second you're on a hiding to nothing.
The more I see of us the harder it is to imagine us being much higher than halfway at the end of the season. Although we are capable of producing some attractive football, we don't translate it good chances often enough. This lack of creativity is made all the more worrying given how uncertain we look defensively.
I anticipate an improved display against Alfreton on Tuesday and it's a game we need to win.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Nov 28, 2020 17:06:03 GMT
Why oh why isn't Matty Hughes played with Elliott Marsh Hughes
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Post by Matt on Nov 28, 2020 17:08:22 GMT
Does this team even know what a clean sheet is??? Very poor yet again!! Certainly not good enough for a play off spot & don't even get me started on the lad Johnston good lord he is abysmal he truly is!! It's clearly not working out for him here, I think the money surrounding the transfer, leaving Alty. The backlash from it all and the pressure of living up to expectations has effected his performances on the pitch. I don't doubt for one second where ever his next Club will be he will turn into Messi and the player that Altrincham said he was.
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Post by superman on Nov 28, 2020 17:09:45 GMT
Never really had control of the ball all afternoon. Deserved nothing. We are desperate for someone who can hold the ball up front, and lay it off out wide. George Waring not good enough and not Danny Elliots game. Very disappointing but well done Gateshead. Need to ship out Johnson for his own sake, and hope that two of our best players from last year in Jackson and Taylor find some fitness and form or we will continue to struggle. Decent cameo from Goodwin.
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Post by vandycandy on Nov 28, 2020 17:10:06 GMT
As we know our problem is up front with the lack of goals. It puts pressure on the gaffers to put JJ and/or BJ into midfield to see if they can create something - but that just makes our midfield too weak. Weâve seen that time and time again this season. Instead of the JJ/BJ option I wish the gaffers would play the midfield we started with in the last two games (which has proved plenty strong enough) and just tinkered with the attack. Goodwin gave a glimpse of what he can offer, so whatâs to lose by giving him (or Hughes) a start? .......the defence is shocking too.
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Post by Harry Lime on Nov 28, 2020 17:10:27 GMT
I'd be tempted to go Goodwin and Marsh-Hughes, with Bauress in for Johnston.
Problem is, Alfreton are the complete opposite of Gateshead. Physical, solid and limited. Different qualities maybe needed than today.
Alfreton wouldn't want to Elliott playing against them. So he should probably keep his place.
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Post by vandycandy on Nov 28, 2020 17:12:29 GMT
Does this team even know what a clean sheet is??? Very poor yet again!! Certainly not good enough for a play off spot & don't even get me started on the lad Johnston good lord he is abysmal he truly is!! It's clearly not working out for him here, I think the money surrounding the transfer, leaving Alty. The backlash from it all and the pressure of living up to expectations has effected his performances on the pitch. I don't doubt for one second where ever his next Club will be he will turn into Messi and the player that Altrincham said he was. You may well be right my friend but you would have thought by now he would have come good. I mean there are slow burners & then there is JJ.
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Nov 28, 2020 17:13:10 GMT
Dire. Grand looked finished in the play off game, and we talked him out of retirement...
We look leggy, have no pace and our star signing can't pass a ball let alone a full back.
Gone stale, needs a bit of a shake up.
Goodwins cameo was promising though.
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Post by Anders on Nov 28, 2020 17:21:06 GMT
The type of goals we concede are alarming, I mean just look at them. Itâs not just the Grand mistake today, it genuinely feels like every week from someone. You cannot concede goals like we do, hardly any of them Iâm thinking to myself, âFair play, decent goalâ.
Wondering about the keeper at the moment as well, he messed up in midweek and I thought he should have done better with the first today. He has his good moments but some scary ones as well. What he did to concede the penalty in the first game against Worksop is a good example of what Iâm going on about.
Part of me wants to see Kev Roberts start at centre back and give Morgan a more sustained run in the team. He wasnât great today but to be fair was filling in out of position.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Nov 28, 2020 17:39:41 GMT
Dire. Grand looked finished in the play off game, and we talked him out of retirement... We look leggy, have no pace and our star signing can't pass a ball let alone a full back. Gone stale, needs a bit of a shake up. Goodwins cameo was promising though. Personally, I would have let Grand retire and signed James Jones.
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Post by devadiva on Nov 28, 2020 17:43:46 GMT
Dire. Grand looked finished in the play off game, and we talked him out of retirement... We look leggy, have no pace and our star signing can't pass a ball let alone a full back. Gone stale, needs a bit of a shake up. Goodwins cameo was promising though. Personally, I would have let Grand retire and signed James Jones. Heâd be a JJ Iâd be happy having on the team....but wonder if we could have afforded him?
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Post by Matt on Nov 28, 2020 17:44:20 GMT
No post match interview from the management tonight?
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Post by Harry Lime on Nov 28, 2020 17:46:36 GMT
The type of goals we concede are alarming, I mean just look at them. Itâs not just the Grand mistake today, it genuinely feels like every week from someone. You cannot concede goals like we do, hardly any of them Iâm thinking to myself, âFair play, decent goalâ. Wondering about the keeper at the moment as well, he messed up in midweek and I thought he should have done better with the first today. He has his good moments but some scary ones as well. What he did to concede the penalty in the first game against Worksop is a good example of what Iâm going on about. Part of me wants to see Kev Roberts start at centre back and give Morgan a more sustained run in the team. He wasnât great today but to be fair was filling in out of position. Even the first goal on Tuesday, although a great hit, did go in directly above him at the near post. Almost every game one of the goals, he could have done better with. Even the 2nd today although not his fault, went straight under him. I know what you mean about changing the back.Problem is, I'm not sure Kev Roberts is playing that well either. I was thinking Morgan will start soon, instead of Kev. At the other end, we don't seem to create much at all. Not sure Waring is the answer.Maybe we just give more game time to the young players. If if works we'll win games, and be able to sell them on. If it doesn't, at least we'll find out.
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Post by chesterken on Nov 28, 2020 18:04:35 GMT
I am going to drastically reduce my expectations for the rest of the season I donât think we are good enough to reach the playofffs so mid table seems about right.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Nov 28, 2020 18:07:08 GMT
I thought Goodwin put himaelf about.
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Post by gezzer on Nov 28, 2020 18:15:18 GMT
Scoring goals isn't the problem, only 5 teams have scored more goals 3 having played more games. The real issue is the manner in which we concede goals, lapses in concentration, failing to defend set pieces or more alarmingly in the last few games, sloppiness. These issues are not new and more worrying is that they have not been addressed and this season so far, as a result we seem to be getting punished. I still think that overall the squad is stronger than last season and capable of achieving a top 7 finish IF we can sort out our defensive frailties and start finding more consistency.
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Post by inthestand on Nov 28, 2020 18:22:15 GMT
Very,leggy and no pace whatsoever..we play far too deep..in front of a poor keeper..to be fair we didn't stop running but that alone wont stop us having a mid table finish..which what i think will happen this season at best..
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Post by Lobster on Nov 28, 2020 18:24:29 GMT
I am going to drastically reduce my expectations for the rest of the season I donât think we are good enough to reach the playofffs so mid table seems about right. We couldn't be much more midtable than at the moment, won three, drawn two, lost three, goal difference zero. The wins feel like a long time ago though. The priority is survival and I appreciate the budget is down considerably this season, but I can't help but get frustrated at the silly goals we're conceding. I also think that if Bern and Jonno are not going to give these young players a fair crack then they have to start justifying that with better results and performances.
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Post by rcb on Nov 28, 2020 18:40:41 GMT
Very,leggy and no pace whatsoever..we play far too deep..in front of a poor keeper..to be fair we didn't stop running but that alone wont stop us having a mid table finish..which what i think will happen this season at best.. Currently that would be an achievement. Would someone like to tell me what exactly we are building here, given the reassurance of the extended contracts for the two managers.
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Post by chesterken on Nov 28, 2020 18:41:21 GMT
I am going to drastically reduce my expectations for the rest of the season I donât think we are good enough to reach the playofffs so mid table seems about right. We couldn't be much more midtable than at the moment, won three, drawn two, lost three, goal difference zero. The wins feel like a long time ago though. The priority is survival and I appreciate the budget is down considerably this season, but I can't help but get frustrated at the silly goals we're conceding. I also think that if Bern and Jonno are not going to give these young players a fair crack then they have to start justifying that with better results and performances. With you 100% on that.
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