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Post by ChesterTrueBlue on May 2, 2022 9:36:18 GMT
Be interested to know everyone’s opinions on this. Do you see us as the successor of Chester City or as a completely new football team from Chester?
Do you think it’s right many of us still hold the club to Chester City standards in terms of believing we should be football league?
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on May 2, 2022 9:41:30 GMT
Yes.
No.
I know that’s a strange answer but basically yes, I do see us as a continuation of the old extinct club but no, our standards shouldn’t be held to that level because we’ve only existed as a club off the field for 12 years. As I said, a strange amalgamation of an answer there but I suspect others feel exactly the same way.
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Post by combover on May 2, 2022 10:08:04 GMT
Be interested to know everyone’s opinions on this. Do you see us as the successor of Chester City or as a completely new football team from Chester? Do you think it’s right many of us still hold the club to Chester City standards in terms of believing we should be football league? All that happened to Chester City F C is that a limited company ceased trading . If Chester F C is not a continuation why, if you are going to the match this afternoon do you either stand on the Harry McNally terrace or sit in the Gary Talbot stand?
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Post by Lobster on May 2, 2022 10:10:32 GMT
There used to be a Boston fan on the old League 2 forums who used to insist that CFC and CCFC were different clubs and should be treated as such. In fact I think he did the commentary when we played them in the Conference North and he kept saying it was the first ever meeting between Boston and Chester FC. He said the same when Newport County were promoted to the league, that it wasn't the same club that folded in the 1980s and the media shouldn't be reporting that they're "back in the league".
He was nice about it and said he had a lot of respect for what we've done, but that we should embrace it as a new start and stop harping on about the past. He may have had a point. It's hard to just let the past go though.
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Post by Matt on May 2, 2022 10:13:57 GMT
Continuation, we've got the history and the memories that will never be erased.
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Post by miltongraham on May 2, 2022 16:15:23 GMT
If we did not have history we would not get the gates and interest we get , we would be guiseley ( no disrespect to Guiseley )
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Post by Al on May 2, 2022 16:46:36 GMT
Yes. No. I know that’s a strange answer but basically yes, I do see us as a continuation of the old extinct club but no, our standards shouldn’t be held to that level because we’ve only existed as a club off the field for 12 years. As I said, a strange amalgamation of an answer there but I suspect others feel exactly the same way. I think Yes to the first and quite frankly if we expect the standards of CCFC then we're fked. The old club was an absolute basketcase off the field. Look at it through rose tinted glasses all you want but it haemoraged money every week, did absolutely nothing in the community or business community, they were an absolute laughing stock in local circles. So Yes to the first and no to the 2nd. I expect us to be far more savvy with our supporters and our partners and thankfully I think we by and large are. The appointments we've made in the past 48hrs are hopefully just what we need to take us to the next level
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Post by jimianto on May 4, 2022 10:30:18 GMT
Of course it's a successor club. The club is essentially its supporters and I still see a few people watching Chester that I did 45 years ago.
Our standards are better now than when we were privately owned.
It made me laugh when someone was complaining about Mondays attendance of 1889 against BPA. Chester City played Birmingham City back in 1989 and there were only 1882 there!!
We are going OK and hopefully we'll keep our better players and kick on next season.
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Post by dc2cfc on May 4, 2022 11:20:52 GMT
I think we have a massive advantage on our hands that will materialise over the next few seasons, such as the following -
- Supporter owned football club - Debt Free - Fantastic work in the community - Affordable football for the family - Match day experience/catering hopefully improving into next season (new catering van and maybe new kiosk operators)
With the cost of living going up, premierleague becoming even more distant, superleague etc. We should use this to our advantage and really push and promote what we are trying to do here.
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Post by bagoftricks on May 4, 2022 16:00:48 GMT
Be interested to know everyone’s opinions on this. Do you see us as the successor of Chester City or as a completely new football team from Chester? Do you think it’s right many of us still hold the club to Chester City standards in terms of believing we should be football league? Interesting question that can be debated but the answer is always we are Chester City it’s the same ground, colours, fans etc all that changed was extra admin due to the actions of crooks. I support the same club as my dad and his dad before him.
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Post by rcb on May 4, 2022 19:22:58 GMT
Be interested to know everyone’s opinions on this. Do you see us as the successor of Chester City or as a completely new football team from Chester? Do you think it’s right many of us still hold the club to Chester City standards in terms of believing we should be football league? Interesting question that can be debated but the answer is always we are Chester City it’s the same ground, colours, fans etc all that changed was extra admin due to the actions of crooks. I support the same club as my dad and his dad before him. Always? Only became Chester City in 1983.
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Post by mrburns on May 4, 2022 19:42:54 GMT
Bring back the city to the name
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Post by jimianto on May 5, 2022 9:22:00 GMT
Interesting question that can be debated but the answer is always we are Chester City it’s the same ground, colours, fans etc all that changed was extra admin due to the actions of crooks. I support the same club as my dad and his dad before him. Always? Only became Chester City in 1983. We were named City for just 27 years out of our 137 year history.
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Post by Suomen Sininen on May 5, 2022 10:02:13 GMT
Bring back the city to the name Out of interest, with the last company being called CCFC and obviously the loss of revenue to creditors, ex SV company issues, etc. Is there ever legally a chance to be CCFC again as a company/football club?
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Post by Wortleyblue on May 5, 2022 10:26:48 GMT
Bring back the city to the name Out of interest, with the last company being called CCFC and obviously the loss of revenue to creditors, ex SV company issues, etc. Is there ever legally a chance to be CCFC again as a company/football club? I don't think we could be called just Chester City FC it would have to be something like Chester City 2010
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Post by Malcolm Tucker on May 5, 2022 10:33:50 GMT
Out of interest, with the last company being called CCFC and obviously the loss of revenue to creditors, ex SV company issues, etc. Is there ever legally a chance to be CCFC again as a company/football club? I don't think we could be called just Chester City FC it would have to be something like Chester City 2010 I think we could now; given that Darlington received approval to change back from Darlington 1883 after four seasons.
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Post by Lobster on May 5, 2022 10:46:35 GMT
I don't think we could be called just Chester City FC it would have to be something like Chester City 2010 I think we could now; given that Darlington received approval to change back from Darlington 1883 after four seasons. Never really understood the obsession with bringing City back. We all know it's a city, it's not like there's another senior Chester club we need to draw distinction from. Chester FC is neater, use City as a nickname.
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Post by ChesterTrueBlue on May 13, 2022 11:56:02 GMT
Can we still put Chester City on flags and banners
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Post by oldsealandroadender on May 13, 2022 16:11:55 GMT
When I first started going to Sealand Road in 1968 the fans used to chant C-I-T-Y then even though the club was Chester FC. It was like a nick name acknowledging our city heritage (city status granted in 1541 I believe). The Cheshire Observer even referred to the team as "City" in match reports in the paper. The City in the name was only added in 1983, which seemed logical at the time. That name was besmirched by SV with his antics leading to the club being wound up.
Yes, the new Chester FC carries on the history and tradition of previous entities (as it did in the late 19th century). Since 2010 we are on a new and exciting journey, which I hope I am still around for to see future successes. We have been Chester FC for the vast majority of our history, it is who we are. We were also "City" long before the name change and will, continue to be.
While we are on the subject of names, "Seals" was a made up nick name which won a competition. What was wrong with City and Cestrians which we already had amongst the fan base? Since moving from Sealand Road it no longer has any connection (tenuous though it was in the first place). I never liked it anyway, let's just relegate it to the past where it belongs.
WE ARE CHESTER FC. Own it and be proud of it.
COME ON CITY,
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Post by Captain Duff on May 14, 2022 13:00:14 GMT
There used to be a Boston fan on the old League 2 forums who used to insist that CFC and CCFC were different clubs and should be treated as such. In fact I think he did the commentary when we played them in the Conference North and he kept saying it was the first ever meeting between Boston and Chester FC. He said the same when Newport County were promoted to the league, that it wasn't the same club that folded in the 1980s and the media shouldn't be reporting that they're "back in the league". He was nice about it and said he had a lot of respect for what we've done, but that we should embrace it as a new start and stop harping on about the past. He may have had a point. It's hard to just let the past go though. That's a lawyer speaking, not a football fan. Also, it ignores that a phoenix club can only be born in the context of the old club, the history, the memories, the passion, the loyalty, the fans. Context is everything. It is why MK Dons could never inherit the lineage and proud history of Wimbledon, despite the continuity of legal ownership, but AFC Wimbledon could and did. So we do have continuity, there is a blue thread running through our club and back to 1884. Every fan knows this, even if the lawyers don't. As to expectations, again that blue thread of continuity informs them - we were a league club and we won't rest until we are a league club once more, it's as simple as that.
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Post by Lobster on May 14, 2022 13:12:18 GMT
When I first started going to Sealand Road in 1968 the fans used to chant C-I-T-Y then even though the club was Chester FC. It was like a nick name acknowledging our city heritage (city status granted in 1541 I believe). The Cheshire Observer even referred to the team as "City" in match reports in the paper. The City in the name was only added in 1983, which seemed logical at the time. That name was besmirched by SV with his antics leading to the club being wound up. Yes, the new Chester FC carries on the history and tradition of previous entities (as it did in the late 19th century). Since 2010 we are on a new and exciting journey, which I hope I am still around for to see future successes. We have been Chester FC for the vast majority of our history, it is who we are. We were also "City" long before the name change and will, continue to be. While we are on the subject of names, "Seals" was a made up nick name which won a competition. What was wrong with City and Cestrians which we already had amongst the fan base? Since moving from Sealand Road it no longer has any connection (tenuous though it was in the first place). I never liked it anyway, let's just relegate it to the past where it belongs. WE ARE CHESTER FC. Own it and be proud of it. COME ON CITY, "City" is a boring nickname though and so is "Blues". Even in Chester, people probably wouldn't think of us if you mentioned these names. "Seals" is unique and it hardly matters if it's tenuous. The story about how Peterborough came to be known as "Posh" is as contrived as it gets, while Stamford are nicknamed "the Daniels" because a really fat bloke called Daniel once lived there.
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on May 14, 2022 15:18:08 GMT
Love the Seals nickname. As above it is unique. Love the badge too.
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Post by bluetartan on May 14, 2022 16:21:02 GMT
Yes and yes 100%. The club is the same to me it’s just continuation we didn’t cause the trouble we know where the blame for that lies but WE certainly with so many great individuals caused the rise of the phoenix. We should aim for the league it’s where we were for my first 30+ years, don’t understand why anyone would not want this or seek to distance themselves from this. Success breeds success it’s the prime motivator for everything.
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Post by bagoftricks on May 19, 2022 0:19:05 GMT
Interesting question that can be debated but the answer is always we are Chester City it’s the same ground, colours, fans etc all that changed was extra admin due to the actions of crooks. I support the same club as my dad and his dad before him. Always? Only became Chester City in 1983. I was meaning the entity. It the same entity that my family has either played for or watched for decades. The name is not that important it’s the history and the link with the past that’s important. It’s the same club that moved from Hoole, played at sealand rd, the deva and now is looking to get into the conference
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Post by oldsealandroadender on May 19, 2022 0:45:14 GMT
When I first started going to Sealand Road in 1968 the fans used to chant C-I-T-Y then even though the club was Chester FC. It was like a nick name acknowledging our city heritage (city status granted in 1541 I believe). The Cheshire Observer even referred to the team as "City" in match reports in the paper. The City in the name was only added in 1983, which seemed logical at the time. That name was besmirched by SV with his antics leading to the club being wound up. Yes, the new Chester FC carries on the history and tradition of previous entities (as it did in the late 19th century). Since 2010 we are on a new and exciting journey, which I hope I am still around for to see future successes. We have been Chester FC for the vast majority of our history, it is who we are. We were also "City" long before the name change and will, continue to be. While we are on the subject of names, "Seals" was a made up nick name which won a competition. What was wrong with City and Cestrians which we already had amongst the fan base? Since moving from Sealand Road it no longer has any connection (tenuous though it was in the first place). I never liked it anyway, let's just relegate it to the past where it belongs. WE ARE CHESTER FC. Own it and be proud of it. COME ON CITY, "City" is a boring nickname though and so is "Blues". Even in Chester, people probably wouldn't think of us if you mentioned these names. "Seals" is unique and it hardly matters if it's tenuous. The story about how Peterborough came to be known as "Posh" is as contrived as it gets, while Stamford are nicknamed "the Daniels" because a really fat bloke called Daniel once lived there. True nick names occur organically and come from the people most closely involved. "City" may be boring to you but it came from the fans. You can invent any name you want but if the supporters don't take it to their hearts then it is just an invented name. If someone suggested renaming the club to Super Bumpers On The Border how would you feel about that? But if it came from the terraces then it would have support. However we refer to our club these are not isolated names. Hundreds, if not thousands use them. (Even Seals!)
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2022 6:52:11 GMT
Seeeeaaaaallls
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Post by clogger on May 19, 2022 19:40:09 GMT
It’s a new club with old fans. Do you want to associate with the gangsters and numpties of the past. Having the owner of the club the first to be declared unfit to own a football team. Having an American owner who ran the club as his plaything, with a captain of the attack a captain in midfield and a captain of the defence!!(smith). If this is the level that a community club has to operate then so be it but hope springs eternal. Just look at Arbroath or Cove Rangers for image ration
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Post by clogger on May 19, 2022 19:41:52 GMT
Sorry, inspiration!
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