|
Salford
May 17, 2022 16:01:46 GMT
via mobile
Post by happyclapper52 on May 17, 2022 16:01:46 GMT
Sack yet another manager. How shit are Class of 92 ? Pathetic win at all costs philosophy. ? Perhaps they should buy Wrexham. Sick side of football.
|
|
|
Post by Lobster on May 17, 2022 16:13:06 GMT
Playing devil's advocate, I suppose they could say that with the money they're spending, failing to make the playoffs is not good enough, but they're going about it the wrong way. I don't understand the big rush with them. They've made enormous strides in recent years, they don't need to be bulldozing through the leagues like there's no tomorrow.
The ex-Man Utd players involved there played under one of the most successful managers of all time, but they should be aware that it took him six years to win the Premier League and four years to win anything. Under owners as impatient as they are, he'd never have had the chance.
|
|
|
Post by Forever Blue on May 18, 2022 1:30:50 GMT
I am gutted for them all that money gone 😂😂 long may it continue 😂😂🤣🤣🤣
|
|
|
Post by Si on May 18, 2022 8:38:36 GMT
Playing devil's advocate, I suppose they could say that with the money they're spending, failing to make the playoffs is not good enough, but they're going about it the wrong way. I don't understand the big rush with them. They've made enormous strides in recent years, they don't need to be bulldozing through the leagues like there's no tomorrow. The ex-Man Utd players involved there played under one of the most successful managers of all time, but they should be aware that it took him six years to win the Premier League and four years to win anything. Under owners as impatient as they are, he'd never have had the chance. I think with some of them they've been justified sackings to be honest. Bern and Jonno could certainly feel hard done by after winning the league, but going off the documentary you could see the CO92 had reservations about whether they were the right managers to take them forward, I guess we'll never know. Graham Alexander had over 2 years in the job and had got them out of the National League, but paid the price for a poor start to the season - again, probably a bit harsh. Wellens then came in and came across as a nasty piece of work....seem to recall he was really tetchy with the press and seemed to prefer to blame the players rather than look at himself - I'd say that sacking was his own fault more than anyone else. As for Bowyer, seemed like a steady pair of hands but he must have had a minimum target of reaching the play offs with the budget he had, and they never looked like properly threatening the play off places so he can't grumble at being moved on. I think the C092 underestimated the steady historic clubs in that league with good fanbases, and are now realising that teams won't roll over like they may have done in the lower leagues. It's not just a case of sticking 11 good players on the pitch, you have to create a culture on and off the pitch to feel like you belong at that level, and I don't think it's quite there yet. It's not unfair to expect a manager to reach the play offs given the money they are throwing at it, but they need to choose more suitable managers for what they are trying to do, and get everyone buying into it.
|
|
|
Post by iandychesterfc on May 18, 2022 9:24:50 GMT
Have to agree with Si, i wouldn't put them in the Watford territory, they want success and are willing to spend to get it. I think they'll find L1 a harder nut to crack and perhaps thats where they see themselves stabilising for a few years before reaching their championship goal.
L2 has 7 spots to be involved in promotion race, i think its fair to call it failure if they are not involved.
|
|
|
Salford
May 18, 2022 9:40:25 GMT
via mobile
Post by cameandabel on May 18, 2022 9:40:25 GMT
Salford were fifth in the league when Graham Alexander was dismissed early in the 2020-21 season. Think that was the sacking that really cemented their reputation for being trigger-happy and Gary Neville has subsequently admitted they made a mistake over it.
|
|
|
Post by Lobster on May 18, 2022 10:57:49 GMT
Have to agree with Si, i wouldn't put them in the Watford territory, they want success and are willing to spend to get it. I think they'll find L1 a harder nut to crack and perhaps thats where they see themselves stabilising for a few years before reaching their championship goal. L2 has 7 spots to be involved in promotion race, i think its fair to call it failure if they are not involved. Incidentally, I've never understood why L2 has four promotion places while L1 and the Championship only have three. Can anyone explain that?
|
|
|
Salford
May 18, 2022 11:34:39 GMT
via mobile
Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on May 18, 2022 11:34:39 GMT
Have to agree with Si, i wouldn't put them in the Watford territory, they want success and are willing to spend to get it. I think they'll find L1 a harder nut to crack and perhaps thats where they see themselves stabilising for a few years before reaching their championship goal. L2 has 7 spots to be involved in promotion race, i think its fair to call it failure if they are not involved. Incidentally, I've never understood why L2 has four promotion places while L1 and the Championship only have three. Can anyone explain that? Doesn’t it date back to the difference between FL and non-league and the idea that only one (now two) teams should drop out of the league system? Four down from L1, four up from L2 and only one (now two) down from L2 into the Conference in order to maintain the equal number of 24 teams in the FL divisions. There’s definitely an argument these days to make it three up and three down all the way from Premier League to Conference which is basically a L3 now.
|
|
|
Post by cameandabel on May 18, 2022 11:40:52 GMT
Have to agree with Si, i wouldn't put them in the Watford territory, they want success and are willing to spend to get it. I think they'll find L1 a harder nut to crack and perhaps thats where they see themselves stabilising for a few years before reaching their championship goal. L2 has 7 spots to be involved in promotion race, i think its fair to call it failure if they are not involved. Incidentally, I've never understood why L2 has four promotion places while L1 and the Championship only have three. Can anyone explain that? It stems from when the lower divisions stopped being regionalised in the late 1950s and the Third and Fourth Divisions were created. The idea of multiple promotion places was presumably a sweetener to the clubs going in the Fourth Division, as well as increasing excitement levels after years of just one up from each regionalised division. Probably not unreasonable more than 60 years later to bring it into line with the number of promotion spots higher up, but doubt L2 clubs would vote in favour of reducing the number of teams that go up.
|
|