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Post by archwhopper on Sept 17, 2022 17:21:42 GMT
Piss poor untill stephenson came on, made the differance, also play matty williams and leave burke in midfield, far more effective there, a wins a win but no doubt it will be south shields away in next round ,
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Post by Lobster on Sept 17, 2022 17:30:51 GMT
All about the win. Telford and Spennymoor both had shockers today and we never. Can add Brackley (0-2 at home to Workshop) and Bradford PA (beaten by Ashington) to the casualties from our division.
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Post by kyle on Sept 17, 2022 17:30:53 GMT
Piss poor untill stephenson came on, made the differance, also play matty williams and leave burke in midfield, far more effective there, a wins a win but no doubt it will be south shields away in next round , Totally agree, different game once we brought on the best player in the world, and solid with Williams on. But I would keep Harrison at centre half and drop Kenyon, looks like he's running through treacle. It was noticeable how Pontefract pressed him much more than either Burke or Williams. Super Kev is fine in midfield until others recover
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Sept 17, 2022 17:31:41 GMT
No issue with folks putting a positive spin on that but it was pretty awful up until we scored.
They started tentatively but once they realised that our tactic was to hoof it aimlessly toward the forwards they seemed to grow in confidence. They started the 2nd half on the front foot and at that point it really could have gone either way.
It looked a lot better when Stephenson came on, he was just what we were missing- he's good at running at defenders and getting the ball in to dangerous areas. We seemed to play in to their hands up to that point but, after the goal, we were comfortable.
Made up to be in the hat next week but I hope we don't see too many more of those performances this season.
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Post by devachatter on Sept 17, 2022 17:33:20 GMT
Hard work but we are through that is the main thing
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Post by B Block Blue on Sept 17, 2022 17:36:31 GMT
Awful performance today. Passing across the back for Kenyon to lump it aimlessly upfield was just like watching Grand do the same thing last season. Terrible. Why McIntyre persists with playing Willoughby out wide is beyond my comprehension. The lad can clearly finish and is just wasted wide. As soon as he found himself in the middle today he did what does well and hit the back of the net. Tyrer kept us in it first half with a tremendous save, one of the worst halves I have seen us play. Why can we only seem to play in the second half of games? Not that we were great second half today but livened up when the ineffective Dudley went off. Stephenson needs to be starting and getting balls in for Kurt who just has to play through the middle.
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Post by bluejay on Sept 17, 2022 17:46:40 GMT
Good result and various comments are right, that's a game we may have lost in previous seasons, but it was not an easy watch. Dudley struggled as the central striker and Willoughby and Hall looked odd on the wings. It said everything that the Pontefract fans were cheering every sideways pass (and there were a lot of them). Second half Burke started to bring the ball forward and Stephenson scared the life out of them attacking at pace and we looked so much better. I assume it was deliberate - to let them run themselves into the ground and then push on, but as I said, that first half was turgid. Still, we're in the hat 😁
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Post by avfo on Sept 17, 2022 17:49:19 GMT
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Post by Jack on Sept 17, 2022 18:04:03 GMT
I think we have to accept we're a different side to what we have been in previous seasons. We're a bit less on the the front foot and probably won't create as many chances this season & I imagine we'll see a lot more quiet first halves.
However, the reality is we went out of the cup to Marske and Dunston in previous years and today we got through with minimal fuss. When you consider our most creative players are out, to be winning games is more than enough right now.
Well done to all - a good result.
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Post by agl on Sept 17, 2022 18:18:43 GMT
Couldn't resist having a listen to the Bern post match interview following Spennymoor's defeat at Clitheroe. Sounds very familiar 😂
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Post by vandycandy on Sept 17, 2022 18:31:31 GMT
Chester win 2-0 with Willoughby scoring both. 1350 with 110 from Pontefract. Little bit off with the attendance but perfect score & goal scorer. Well played.
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Post by Wortleyblue on Sept 17, 2022 18:37:01 GMT
Chester win 2-0 with Willoughby scoring both. 1350 with 110 from Pontefract. Little bit off with the attendance but perfect score & goal scorer. Well played. How many colliers do we know
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Post by Anders on Sept 17, 2022 18:43:33 GMT
Got the job dob which is the main thing, we got better as the game wore on, after Stephenson came on but particularly once we went ahead. For all everyone might say he should have started you’ve got to remember he was poor the other night, so I understand why he didn’t.
First half was possibly the worst half of football I’ve ever seen though. Basically Burke and Kenyon passing square to each other for 45 minutes with the occasional hoof up.
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Post by devachatter on Sept 17, 2022 18:52:55 GMT
Couldn't resist having a listen to the Bern post match interview following Spennymoor's defeat at Clitheroe. Sounds very familiar 😂 Spenny's twitter is fun to look at at the full time thread
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Post by 1paulcarden on Sept 17, 2022 18:56:15 GMT
Tyrer’s great save first half was the only thing of note that happened. Absolutely terrible watch. We got the treat of last season’s Anthony Dudley. Playing so within himself he looked like he may turn himself inside out. Stephenson made an enormous difference when he came on. I thought Kenyon was decent (which doesn’t seem the consensus) and Heywood also had a solid game. Kurt’s the difference this year though, one of those few strikers that you have little doubt will convert any chance in the box. Job done and well done Calum and the lads. Onto the next one.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Sept 17, 2022 19:05:34 GMT
Firstly, Callum is correct in saying there isnt much difference, in standard between the Northern Premier Leagues and the Conference North. Its the reason why the Dackers and Halls of this world dont look out of place Secondly, we are much better defensively this season why? Because of the double pivot , in midfield . It gives more protection to the back 4. The game has changed, it is over 10 years, since I did any coaching and I was playing 2 defensive midfield players then. The box to box midfield players, like John Kelly and Roger Preece , needed to play a 4-4-2 are as rare as Hen's teeth these days and are certainly not seen, at our level. As for the game, dreadful first half Too many over hit passes and not a lot of quality. Stephenson changed the game. He gave us pace and quality and got us up the pitch. He needs to be starting on the left. Also, we improved , when Burke went into midfield He gives us much more strength and energy, when he plays there. MOM: by a country mile for me. Finally, because we arw playing, a better system, we are able to grind out results without playing particularly well. In previous seasons we would have lost that.
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Post by nytram on Sept 17, 2022 19:26:20 GMT
Strange on Tuesday Stephenson was not very good and when Dudley came on he changed the game. Today it was the opposite Dudley not very good and when Stephenson came on he changed the game. Oh to be a manager picking a team!!!
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Post by chesterken on Sept 17, 2022 19:42:50 GMT
Firstly, Callum is correct in saying there isnt much difference, in standard between the Northern Premier Leagues and the Conference North. Its the reason why the Dackers and Halls of this world dont look out of place Secondly, we are much better defensively this season why? Because of the double pivot , in midfield . It gives more protection to the back 4. The game has changed, it is over 10 years, since I did any coaching and I was playing 2 defensive midfield players then. The box to box midfield players, like John Kelly and Roger Preece , needed to play a 4-4-2 are as rare as Hen's teeth these days and are certainly not seen, at our level. As for the game, dreadful first half Too many over hit passes and not a lot of quality. Stephenson changed the game. He gave us pace and quality and got us up the pitch. He needs to be starting on the left. Also, we improved , when Burke went into midfield He gives us much more strength and energy, when he plays there. MOM: by a country mile for me. Finally, because we arw playing, a better system, we are able to grind out results without playing particularly well. In previous seasons we would have lost that. I bow to all your technical knowledge MG but surely by now the players should know that the prevailing wind is with us in the first half so you can’t play long balls over the top it just ends up going out of play, we have got to play balls to feet as we tend to do in the second half. And don’t get me started on that bloody stupid corner routine 😂.
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Post by Anders on Sept 17, 2022 19:45:29 GMT
6 goals in 9 games for Willoughby then, cracking start for him. As others have said, you just fancy him in front of goal. Kenyon's set the new chant for him on the loose on social media, hopefully the young lads will get that going at Buxton. Just had a look at our best goal per game ratio’s since reformation, as I have them to hand, and if you exclude James Caton (1 from 1) it looks like this: 1.17 - Matty Taylor 1.46 - Akwasi Asante 1.50 - Kurt Willoughby* 1.59 - Michael Wilde 1.86 - Craig Curran 2.26 - Ross Hannah 2.33 – Danny Carlton 2.36 – Tony Gray
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Post by MPW on Sept 17, 2022 19:47:54 GMT
Strange on Tuesday Stephenson was not very good and when Dudley came on he changed the game. Today it was the opposite Dudley not very good and when Stephenson came on he changed the game. Oh to be a manager picking a team!!! That’s what I was thinking. Although today, I thought Kurt was also having a bit of a shocker and probably needed a rest, but then popped up to score 2 goals. 🤷🏻♂️ With Lynch and Thomas back next week, I think Cal will have a selection problem. Anyone know when Weeks and Edwards might be back?
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Post by hopper on Sept 17, 2022 20:00:29 GMT
Awful. This isn’t working. Kenyon is a waste of a player, his legs are gone. Get Matty back in. These short corners are a waste of time and players. Get the ball down on the ground, play it around, tire them out and keep it to feet. Hall and Willoughby stand a chance then. Yeah I hate them short corners that are hoofed hopelessly in the air
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Post by Harry Lime on Sept 17, 2022 20:18:59 GMT
Wasn't pretty first half. We started ok, but just ran out of ideas after 20 minutes.
Ponte pushed their back four right up the pitch and sat five in front of them. There was no space for Duds to drop into, and our functional midfield didn't have the creativity to find space and play through them. That was the reason we appeared to go long. There was a big space behind their defence. Unfortunately we didn't execute it well. We did better with those balls in the second half and looked a bit more like creating something.
In this kind of game the better team will have bits of quality that win the game, as long as they don't make mistakes. That's basically what happened. Tyrer made a great save that stopped us going behind. Stephenson caused havoc when he came on. They started backing off him, which got us up the pitch.
It may not be pretty at times, but we're starting to be a difficult team to play against. That functional midfield is protecting the back four. Kenyon is organising them and talking whole time. We've three dangerous strikers, and the best keeper in the league.
We've also won an FA Cup tie, at home too!
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Post by Curva Nord on Sept 17, 2022 20:38:20 GMT
Awful. This isn’t working. Kenyon is a waste of a player, his legs are gone. Get Matty back in. These short corners are a waste of time and players. Get the ball down on the ground, play it around, tire them out and keep it to feet. Hall and Willoughby stand a chance then. Yeah I hate them short corners that are hoofed hopelessly in the air I hate those long corners that either can't beat the first man, or go to far and out of play, prefer short so you can work up a passing play
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Post by Lobster on Sept 17, 2022 21:57:26 GMT
6 goals in 9 games for Willoughby then, cracking start for him. As others have said, you just fancy him in front of goal. Kenyon's set the new chant for him on the loose on social media, hopefully the young lads will get that going at Buxton. Just had a look at our best goal per game ratio’s since reformation, as I have them to hand, and if you exclude James Caton (1 from 1) it looks like this: 1.17 - Matty Taylor 1.46 - Akwasi Asante 1.50 - Kurt Willoughby* 1.59 - Michael Wilde 1.86 - Craig Curran 2.26 - Ross Hannah 2.33 – Danny Carlton 2.36 – Tony Gray Surprised Wilde's is that low. I'm sure at one point he scored hat-tricks three Saturdays in a row. Didn't have the best time in the second season though.
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Post by brooklaneblue on Sept 18, 2022 10:07:15 GMT
Chester win 2-0 with Willoughby scoring both. 1350 with 110 from Pontefract. good call
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2022 10:55:59 GMT
Looks like plenty of replays in the northern side this week so that’s a bonus too.
Sort of feel there’s some sort of fate involved in us getting the final qualifier and drawing the goats.
Stick a 1-0 win and a Kurt winner on your documentary you sell outs 😂😂😂😂
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Post by vandycandy on Sept 18, 2022 11:41:34 GMT
Strange on Tuesday Stephenson was not very good and when Dudley came on he changed the game. Today it was the opposite Dudley not very good and when Stephenson came on he changed the game. Oh to be a manager picking a team!!! Bench Dudley & start Dazza! Easy decision.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2022 14:30:08 GMT
Strange on Tuesday Stephenson was not very good and when Dudley came on he changed the game. Today it was the opposite Dudley not very good and when Stephenson came on he changed the game. Oh to be a manager picking a team!!! Unfortunately for both Dudley and Stephenson the way we set up against both Southport and Pontefract suited neither player. Both are dangerous with the ball at their feet rather than watching the ball lumped over their heads as we seem to be doing in the first half of games this season. Its easy to criticise one and praise the other when the system changes to benefit the second player.
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Post by cityboy5705 on Sept 18, 2022 14:49:01 GMT
A good result against a good side a win is a win but few annoyances these short corners they are not working out two main goal threats were out on the wings put the balls in the box Willoughby scores Dudley looked off it but does need game time the pluses our the save tyrer made Heywood played well as did McHugh also great to see dazza doing that yesterday in the draw for nextround coyb
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Post by cityboy5705 on Sept 18, 2022 14:49:48 GMT
Looks like plenty of replays in the northern side this week so that’s a bonus too. Sort of feel there’s some sort of fate involved in us getting the final qualifier and drawing the goats. Stick a 1-0 win and a Kurt winner on your documentary you sell outs 😂😂😂😂 think carden might be on borrowed time at Telford
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