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Sept 17, 2022 9:30:53 GMT
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Post by rainhillblue9 on Sept 17, 2022 9:30:53 GMT
The National league have come to an agreement with BT sport to allow streaming from the second half of the season.Good news for all our supporters from distant shores and all over the UK.
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Post by Moltisanti on Sept 17, 2022 9:35:03 GMT
Nothing about that is good news
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Post by Matt on Sept 17, 2022 10:38:05 GMT
After that first statement I wonder when BT will start actually showing North/South games?
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Post by Al on Sept 17, 2022 11:30:54 GMT
Bowing to pressure from the goats. They're disguising this as a good thing for the league but it's purely a cash grab from the goats following on from the documentary, pure and simple.
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Post by Harry Lime on Sept 17, 2022 12:00:27 GMT
Anything that could have a detrimental affect on attendances isn't a good thing.
It might give exiles an opportunity to enjoy watching CFC. However, if people can sit at home and watch the game for £5, the club could lose revenue. Especially if 4 or 5 watch it in the same house.
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Sept 17, 2022 12:15:41 GMT
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Post by Wortleyblue on Sept 17, 2022 12:15:41 GMT
As an exile I would welcome streaming but not if this affects attendances and ultimately the clubs finances. It will be interesting to know what agreement has been reached with bt but you can bet it only benefits step 5 clubs
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Post by Curva Nord on Sept 17, 2022 13:29:10 GMT
Nothing about that is good news Why not? Some fans don't have the dedication to drive to away games midweek, or simply can't, but they are able to spend that on the stream, which is revenue clubs wouldn't have got. Backwards attitudes like this is what is holding the leagues back.
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Sept 17, 2022 13:50:08 GMT
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Post by kyle on Sept 17, 2022 13:50:08 GMT
Because the clubs will lose out. I live in Salford, so there would be the temptation to save time and money by watching the game at home instead of making the journey
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Post by Curva Nord on Sept 17, 2022 16:38:10 GMT
What about the exiles who live miles away, even in different countries, the club will be making more money, and watching a game live is far better than on TV.
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Sept 17, 2022 16:48:13 GMT
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Post by Wortleyblue on Sept 17, 2022 16:48:13 GMT
What about the exiles who live miles away, even in different countries, the club will be making more money, and watching a game live is far better than on TV. Being an exile yes it would be good but not to the detriment of income. We need to know what money was incoming compared to an average income for the games streamed during covid
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Sept 17, 2022 16:50:49 GMT
Just charge £15. If people want to watch it bad enough they can, but the club get their ticket price.
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Sept 17, 2022 18:50:51 GMT
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Post by agl on Sept 17, 2022 18:50:51 GMT
What about the exiles who live miles away, even in different countries, the club will be making more money, and watching a game live is far better than on TV. Being an exile yes it would be good but not to the detriment of income. We need to know what money was incoming compared to an average income for the games streamed during covid Totally different situation so I don't see any merit in making comparisons. All you can do is have a trial and see how it impacts on attendances.
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Sept 17, 2022 19:11:51 GMT
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Post by Wortleyblue on Sept 17, 2022 19:11:51 GMT
Being an exile yes it would be good but not to the detriment of income. We need to know what money was incoming compared to an average income for the games streamed during covid Totally different situation so I don't see any merit in making comparisons. All you can do is have a trial and see how it impacts on attendances. Fair comment I just thought as a starting point a comparison with what we took for the games we streamed against an average income for attended games might be worth looking at as a benchmark
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Post by Curva Nord on Sept 17, 2022 19:25:12 GMT
Why have one form of income when you can have two?
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Sept 17, 2022 19:41:13 GMT
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Post by Wortleyblue on Sept 17, 2022 19:41:13 GMT
Why have one form of income when you can have two? Yes but if the 2nd form of income reduces the 1st and impacts the match day experience is that really the answer to me bums on seats and a great atmosphere on the day is the way forward
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Post by Curva Nord on Sept 17, 2022 20:32:41 GMT
Key word IF. You could say letting kids in for free hampers as we don't get an income from them, but you know what, we speculate to accumulate. You know what, there could be some people who buy a stream and see a good game/atmosphere and think I fancy that, and come down to the games.
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Sept 17, 2022 21:05:41 GMT
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Post by Wortleyblue on Sept 17, 2022 21:05:41 GMT
Key word IF. You could say letting kids in for free hampers as we don't get an income from them, but you know what, we speculate to accumulate. You know what, there could be some people who buy a stream and see a good game/atmosphere and think I fancy that, and come down to the games. Yes but in earlier post you were saying exiles who live miles away or in different countries not exactly easy to think I fancy that and go down to the games
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Post by Curva Nord on Sept 17, 2022 21:17:51 GMT
Right so the exiles can carry on watching the games, on the streams, and the people who see a stream and fancy going the game, can go and do that. Those who fancy being pedantic on a message board, can carry on with that too
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Post by bb93 on Sept 17, 2022 21:40:15 GMT
I think the idea that the game being streamed will lead to reduced attendances is without any evidence. This is ultimately an additional revenue stream for the club and should be welcomed.
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Post by avfo on Sept 17, 2022 22:26:19 GMT
The latest statement from the NL is so thin on detail it's impossible to draw any conclusions with one exception - 'also respecting the need to comply with Article 48 restrictions'. So, no domestic streaming of matches between 2-45 - 5-15pm on a Saturday will be allowed. Along with scheduled midweek and bank holiday fixtures, clubs may (in theory), be able to either play matches outside the 2-45 - 5-15 window on a Saturday or move the fixture to another day altogether. Streaming any/all matches to an overseas audience will almost certainly get the go ahead, which is exactly I suspect, what the bank of Ryan and Rob wanted all along.
During lockdown when fans were banned from attending matches, I believe there were around 700 people (could be wrong) who each paid £9 to live stream CFC's home matches. Clubs will have to factor in potential downsides - loss of secondary spend, costs of streaming - including whatever cut the platform provider takes etc as well as possible positives - less committed, particularly away fans, not intending to attend matches due to travel costs, forecasts of bad weather etc might be more likely to subscribe.
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Post by Malcolm Tucker on Sept 17, 2022 22:30:25 GMT
Alarming how quickly the NL have folded to the demands of the Goats, all so they can widen the financial gap between themselves and the rest of the clubs in the league.
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Post by Lon on Sept 17, 2022 23:12:01 GMT
This surely is only regarding overseas streaming and not UK streaming as you have the 3pm blackout to contend with which the league and BT can’t get round no matter how much they try.
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Sept 18, 2022 10:26:27 GMT
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Post by Suomen Sininen on Sept 18, 2022 10:26:27 GMT
Alarming how quickly the NL have folded to the demands of the Goats, all so they can widen the financial gap between themselves and the rest of the clubs in the league. Amazing how many fans they now have abroad due to the America connection. The Netflix series has reinforced this and the knock on financial benefit through merchandise, advertising etc and it's great for them. The additional gate revenue currently plus hospitality, kiosks etc. will alteady have them top of their financial league.i would have thought to be fair streaming profits should be split to all clubs from a central pot, similar to BT tevenue.
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Post by inthestand on Sept 18, 2022 11:27:39 GMT
I personally (depending on the fixed price) think it’s a great idea….we can actually watch our club play twice a week home and away from any part of the world and the club will financially benefit from it, i don’t think it will have any impact on gate revenue, supporters come to the deva for the match day experience ..we really need to drag a few on here into 21st century , times and technology is changing fast…but it must be made available for all clubs to participate…
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Sept 18, 2022 12:33:46 GMT
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Post by Moltisanti on Sept 18, 2022 12:33:46 GMT
What about the exiles who live miles away, even in different countries, the club will be making more money, and watching a game live is far better than on TV. Haha. Knew you were on the wind up. Nice try.
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Post by Gandalf on Sept 18, 2022 13:50:13 GMT
Alarming how quickly the NL have folded to the demands of the Goats, all so they can widen the financial gap between themselves and the rest of the clubs in the league. Amazing how many fans they now have abroad due to the America connection. The Netflix series has reinforced this and the knock on financial benefit through merchandise, advertising etc and it's great for them. The additional gate revenue currently plus hospitality, kiosks etc. will alteady have them top of their financial league.i would have thought to be fair streaming profits should be split to all clubs from a central pot, similar to BT tevenue. They wish it was Netflix, they’re on FX which is a tv channel as opposed to subscription service. The sponsorship they have gained such as tick tick and Rob and Ryan’s own social media presence has a lot to do with any outside fans they have now
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Sept 18, 2022 14:23:30 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2022 14:23:30 GMT
Amazing how many fans they now have abroad due to the America connection. The Netflix series has reinforced this and the knock on financial benefit through merchandise, advertising etc and it's great for them. The additional gate revenue currently plus hospitality, kiosks etc. will alteady have them top of their financial league.i would have thought to be fair streaming profits should be split to all clubs from a central pot, similar to BT tevenue. They wish it was Netflix, they’re on FX which is a tv channel as opposed to subscription service. The sponsorship they have gained such as tick tick and Rob and Ryan’s own social media presence has a lot to do with any outside fans they have now Might as well be Netflix Disney+ ended fiscal Q3 with 152.1 million overall streaming subscribers. Throw in that the service is also available to Hulu+ and ESPN+ subscribers the reach Wrexham now have is unreal. Disney+ is an OTT service on the rise.
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Post by Suomen Sininen on Sept 18, 2022 15:48:53 GMT
Amazing how many fans they now have abroad due to the America connection. The Netflix series has reinforced this and the knock on financial benefit through merchandise, advertising etc and it's great for them. The additional gate revenue currently plus hospitality, kiosks etc. will alteady have them top of their financial league.i would have thought to be fair streaming profits should be split to all clubs from a central pot, similar to BT tevenue. They wish it was Netflix, they’re on FX which is a tv channel as opposed to subscription service. The sponsorship they have gained such as tick tick and Rob and Ryan’s own social media presence has a lot to do with any outside fans they have now Yep, totally right. My mistake with Netflix (shows I refuse to watch it and my kids), but you’re spot on with the Tik Tok stuff and social media content. It is huge. if only we could convince someone with multiple £££ to go up against them. Now that really would be watchable tele!
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Sept 22, 2022 16:07:48 GMT
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Post by Matt on Sept 22, 2022 16:07:48 GMT
The embargo on National League highlights has been brought forward
Goals & action can be shown after 6:15pm on a Saturday when there is no BT Sport highlights show & straight after when there is one
Alongside the changes to weekend footage times, National League clubs from all 3 divisions can show highlights from midweek games 'immediately following the completion of the game'
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Post by southernblue on Sept 25, 2022 11:53:09 GMT
Nothing about that is good news It is if you live in Dorset.
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