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Post by Churton Blue on May 10, 2022 21:22:43 GMT
I see the goats have their begging bowls and buckets out to redevelop the kop via government ‘levelling up’ funds and the ‘Wrexham Gateway’ Absolute embarrassment. Even a bloody petition? So much for the Hollywood owners. What’s their motive here? Few seasons of a documentary and they’ll sail off into the sunset, leaving the goats to be asset stripped by a second coming of Vaughan or Hamilton. Joke of a club. There is a serious scandal here. A local authority bidding for tax payer money to expand the income of a privately owned football club. Their cover is that it will enable the ground to host international football and bring economic benefits. Sadly the Welsh Government are behind the scheme as well so it has political support from Labour, Conservative and Plaid Cymru and there is no scrutiny of what is going on. |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2022 7:08:44 GMT
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Post by Firestick Frank on May 11, 2022 7:22:42 GMT
Foreign millionaire owned private football club wants the taxpayer to fund stadium improvements.
Let’s not best around the bush, this is exactly what the situation is. It’s disgraceful, we’d all say the same no matter what club it is.
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Post by iandychesterfc on May 11, 2022 8:52:18 GMT
Afraid so, really odd scenario - imagine pre-Wembley II if public funds were used to increase the size of say Villa Park to enable it to have england games in midlands or take SJP in Newcastle to 70,000.
Said millionaire club then benefits, it just cant be right.
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Post by inthestand on May 11, 2022 16:46:15 GMT
I agree, can you imagine if this was happening to us….we certainly wouldn’t stand (pun very much intended) for it…but it is what it is…it’s all part of the regeneration program including hotels and car parks etc…but yeah..£3.5 million quid for a new stand would be very affordable for the new owners I think..
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Post by Churton Blue on May 12, 2022 22:11:03 GMT
I agree, can you imagine if this was happening to us….we certainly wouldn’t stand (pun very much intended) for it…but it is what it is…it’s all part of the regeneration program including hotels and car parks etc…but yeah..£3.5 million quid for a new stand would be very affordable for the new owners I think.. The club are just trying to exploit the situation so the people really at fault are the politicians. How on earth they think that levelling up money designed to help poor people in Wrexham should be used primarily to add to the wealth of two American millionaires is beyond belief. |
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Post by jedthehumanoid on May 13, 2022 8:50:05 GMT
Just to play Devil's advocate for a minute, a stadium capable of hosting international games will surely bring more money in to the local area than the £3.5 million or so outlay? Same for a league football team with larger crowds every other Saturday over a non-league one pulling in a couple of thousand people.
For the government these things will probably override any concerns about indirectly putting money in the owners pockets. I'm sure they could put some kind of repayment schedule in place too should revenues reach a certain figure.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2022 8:55:56 GMT
How much do you lot pay the council to use the ground they own?
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2022 9:52:49 GMT
How much do you lot pay the council to use the ground they own? You’re missing the point. 2 millionaires own you, one with a net worth more than most league one and championship owners. So why are you asking the public to find a new stand? We’re fan owned, have been for some time, so of course we lease a ground. A bit similar to how the uni owned yours. |
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Post by eyeswideopen on May 13, 2022 10:32:35 GMT
Just to play Devil's advocate for a minute, a stadium capable of hosting international games will surely bring more money in to the local area than the £3.5 million or so outlay? Same for a league football team with larger crowds every other Saturday over a non-league one pulling in a couple of thousand people. For the government these things will probably override any concerns about indirectly putting money in the owners pockets. I'm sure they could put some kind of repayment schedule in place too should revenues reach a certain figure. Capability of holding the games is a far cry from the reality of hosting them. Cardiff wont give them up easily and the Welsh FA wont either. If the new owners want to make improvements to the grounds then let them fund it, who knows it might even get another few episodes on Netflix for them. |
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Post by inthestand on May 13, 2022 13:09:38 GMT
I think it’s included into the regeneration part of the town because it’s also the oldest international football ground in the world and wrexham the third oldest club..with the extra stand it will bring in over 15000 fans per home game in the town, plus some Welsh games and pop concerts in the off season..but I do agree the cost of a new stand by the owners would be a drop in the ocean financially..especially how they now own the ground,it seems a bit crazy they don’t fully fund it..
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Post by Ian H Block on May 13, 2022 13:43:37 GMT
I think it’s included into the regeneration part of the town because it’s also the oldest international football ground in the world and wrexham the third oldest club..with the extra stand it will bring in over 15000 fans per home game in the town, plus some Welsh games and pop concerts in the off season..but I do agree the cost of a new stand by the owners would be a drop in the ocean financially..especially how they now own the ground,it seems a bit crazy they don’t fully fund it.. ‘Third oldest Club’, does anyone outside of Wrexham actually believe that bollocks? |
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Post by Churton Blue on May 13, 2022 14:53:39 GMT
How much do you lot pay the council to use the ground they own? From my point of view I have no problem with Wrexham CBC contributing towards the scheme benefitting a local football club. A number of Councils have done and continue to do so. It is the money from the Welsh Government and potential funding from the UK Government that is the problem. Can not think of any football club that has received state funding ? The fact that the funding, Levelling up money, is supposed to benefit the poorest sections of society makes a mockery of the whole thing. |
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Post by Churton Blue on May 13, 2022 14:59:47 GMT
Just to play Devil's advocate for a minute, a stadium capable of hosting international games will surely bring more money in to the local area than the £3.5 million or so outlay? Same for a league football team with larger crowds every other Saturday over a non-league one pulling in a couple of thousand people. For the government these things will probably override any concerns about indirectly putting money in the owners pockets. I'm sure they could put some kind of repayment schedule in place too should revenues reach a certain figure. Capability of holding the games is a far cry from the reality of hosting them. Cardiff wont give them up easily and the Welsh FA wont either. If the new owners want to make improvements to the grounds then let them fund it, who knows it might even get another few episodes on Netflix for them. A great point. There needs to be a guarantee the Welsh FA will hold matches there. Very unlikely given the Cardiff stadiums can hold 25,000 to 75,000. |
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Post by blaconboy on May 14, 2022 6:17:44 GMT
I think it’s included into the regeneration part of the town because it’s also the oldest international football ground in the world and wrexham the third oldest club..with the extra stand it will bring in over 15000 fans per home game in the town, plus some Welsh games and pop concerts in the off season..but I do agree the cost of a new stand by the owners would be a drop in the ocean financially. .especially how they now own the ground,it seems a bit crazy they don’t fully fund it.. ‘Third oldest Club’, does anyone outside of Wrexham actually believe that bollocks? I understand that the Uni still own the ground |
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Post by cameandabel on May 14, 2022 12:36:01 GMT
Capability of holding the games is a far cry from the reality of hosting them. Cardiff wont give them up easily and the Welsh FA wont either. If the new owners want to make improvements to the grounds then let them fund it, who knows it might even get another few episodes on Netflix for them. A great point. There needs to be a guarantee the Welsh FA will hold matches there. Very unlikely given the Cardiff stadiums can hold 25,000 to 75,000. Good points. Towards the end of Wrexham hosting Wales matches previously in the 2000s they were getting only the scraps from under the table, friendlies against the likes of Canada and New Zealand. Think you’ve got to go back more than 30 years for when they were last hosting Wales matches of any great significance, and with the Cardiff City Stadium seeming to now be the regular home for Wales it remains to be seen what would come Wrexham’s way if the stadium did get back to international standards. |
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Post by jedthehumanoid on May 14, 2022 21:41:13 GMT
How much do you lot pay the council to use the ground they own? From my point of view I have no problem with Wrexham CBC contributing towards the scheme benefitting a local football club. A number of Councils have done and continue to do so. It is the money from the Welsh Government and potential funding from the UK Government that is the problem. Can not think of any football club that has received state funding ? The fact that the funding, Levelling up money, is supposed to benefit the poorest sections of society makes a mockery of the whole thing. Bit off the point but I'd say Man City and Newcastle are state funded, whether they like to admit it or not. I can see arguments each way but we'll just have to see what actually happens. Isn't the land under the kop at Wrexham a toxic mess anyway? |
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Post by Firestick Frank on May 14, 2022 23:14:47 GMT
From my point of view I have no problem with Wrexham CBC contributing towards the scheme benefitting a local football club. A number of Councils have done and continue to do so. It is the money from the Welsh Government and potential funding from the UK Government that is the problem. Can not think of any football club that has received state funding ? The fact that the funding, Levelling up money, is supposed to benefit the poorest sections of society makes a mockery of the whole thing. Bit off the point but I'd say Man City and Newcastle are state funded, whether they like to admit it or not. I can see arguments each way but we'll just have to see what actually happens. Isn't the land under the kop at Wrexham a toxic mess anyway? To be fair he did mean funded by the British taxpayer, not the billions of oil-rich governments. |
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Post by Matt on May 16, 2022 7:48:33 GMT
I agree, can you imagine if this was happening to us….we certainly wouldn’t stand (pun very much intended) for it…but it is what it is…it’s all part of the regeneration program including hotels and car parks etc…but yeah..£3.5 million quid for a new stand would be very affordable for the new owners I think.. They should name the stand “Longest serving National League Members” |
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Post by Matt on May 16, 2022 7:49:47 GMT
I think it’s included into the regeneration part of the town because it’s also the oldest international football ground in the world and wrexham the third oldest club..with the extra stand it will bring in over 15000 fans per home game in the town, plus some Welsh games and pop concerts in the off season..but I do agree the cost of a new stand by the owners would be a drop in the ocean financially..especially how they now own the ground,it seems a bit crazy they don’t fully fund it.. ‘Third oldest Club’, does anyone outside of Wrexham actually believe that bollocks? They reformed in 1874 so it is bollocks. |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2022 17:33:51 GMT
I see the goats have their begging bowls and buckets out to redevelop the kop via government ‘levelling up’ funds and the ‘Wrexham Gateway’ Absolute embarrassment. Even a bloody petition? So much for the Hollywood owners. What’s their motive here? Few seasons of a documentary and they’ll sail off into the sunset, leaving the goats to be asset stripped by a second coming of Vaughan or Hamilton. Joke of a club. There is a serious scandal here. A local authority bidding for tax payer money to expand the income of a privately owned football club. Their cover is that it will enable the ground to host international football and bring economic benefits. Sadly the Welsh Government are behind the scheme as well so it has political support from Labour, Conservative and Plaid Cymru and there is no scrutiny of what is going on.Really ? talk about a lot of hot air spouted by people who know or understand little about the present position regarding the new stand at WAFC. The money if we get it comes from the British government and is available to and area that applies . Our owners are putting a sizable amount of cash up towards the new stand but the rrest of the project will be funded by a range of organisations including the Welsh government who are developing the railway station into a transport hub.Joke of a club ? you need to take a chill pill mate as you have issues and clearly cant see what a great club with some of the best supporters is ...Wrexham AFC !!! |
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Post by Firestick Frank on May 17, 2022 18:10:31 GMT
But all money from government is taxpayer money, is the point.
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Post by lincolnexile on May 17, 2022 22:30:03 GMT
There is a serious scandal here. A local authority bidding for tax payer money to expand the income of a privately owned football club. Their cover is that it will enable the ground to host international football and bring economic benefits. Sadly the Welsh Government are behind the scheme as well so it has political support from Labour, Conservative and Plaid Cymru and there is no scrutiny of what is going on.Really ? talk about a lot of hot air spouted by people who know or understand little about the present position regarding the new stand at WAFC. The money if we get it comes from the British government and is available to and area that applies . Our owners are putting a sizable amount of cash up towards the new stand but the rrest of the project will be funded by a range of organisations including the Welsh government who are developing the railway station into a transport hub.Joke of a club ? you need to take a chill pill mate as you have issues and clearly cant see what a great club with some of the best supporters is ...Wrexham AFC !!! Are you ever going to learn how to use the quote feature on this message board correctly? |
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Post by lincolnexile on May 18, 2022 9:41:08 GMT
It's good to see that the Wrexham MP is backing their bid for Wembley glory. She said in parliament yesterday how she would be cheering on 'Wrexham Athletic' to victory at the final of the FA Trophy. You'd have thought that she'd know their name given that she's supporting the proposal giving them a big chunk of tax payers money for a new stand.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2022 16:25:46 GMT
Our MP is actualy from Chester apparently so that explains her dumb statements !!
We take no notice of her most of the while but the City of Wrexham may just vote her in again as the alternative is too horific to contemplate ..PC/Labour
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Post by Matt on May 21, 2022 16:46:27 GMT
Our MP is actualy from Chester apparently so that explains her dumb statements !! We take no notice of her most of the while but the City of Wrexham may just vote her in again as the alternative is too horific to contemplate ..PC/Labour She's a Tory so that explain all you need to know. Anyone but Tory. |
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Post by lincolnexile on May 21, 2022 17:04:56 GMT
Our MP is actualy from Chester apparently so that explains her dumb statements !! We take no notice of her most of the while but the City of Wrexham may just vote her in again as the alternative is too horific to contemplate ..PC/Labour Apparently you had to get someone from Chester because you couldn't find anyone in Wrexham who could spell MP. |
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Post by arthuro on May 21, 2022 20:50:08 GMT
Our MP is actualy from Chester apparently so that explains her dumb statements !! We take no notice of her most of the while but the City of Wrexham may just vote her in again as the alternative is too horific to contemplate ..PC/Labour Apparently you had to get someone from Chester because you couldn't find anyone in Wrexham who could spell MP. You’ve done him there. |
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Post by Firestick Frank on May 22, 2022 6:21:06 GMT
Imagine being from a traditional working class deprived area and being proud you elected a Tory. How do those leather boots taste?
(This comment isn’t just aimed at Wrexham, obviously).
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2022 10:31:38 GMT
Well….
Are they bottling it today?
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