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Post by devadiva on Apr 13, 2024 16:46:57 GMT
I think he’s done well enough to have another go next season (suspect we can’t afford not to) but if we aren’t solid top 5 come Christmas then that’s it for me. We were solid top five at Christmas this season, to be fair. Been a woeful 2024 so far. I know but from a slow start. I want to see us be top 5 from Aug - and I was giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming that he had learned from this years post Christmas shitshow and would be able to avoid repetition. The other thing he needs to sort is our woeful ability to win the big games. Even if we make playoffs next season I want to have some faith that we stand a chance of getting past the first hurdle rather than fizzling out like a wet fart.
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Post by tooth on Apr 13, 2024 16:49:39 GMT
Not good enough sorry it's been a while since I have enjoyed watching Chester to be honest and it's going to be tough next season I personally think Callum has got until October next season if we are struggling by then questions will be asked
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Post by highpeakblue on Apr 13, 2024 16:57:25 GMT
That's the problem,it wasn't £30k, in effect it is at least more like £50k and counting. That was discussed at the CFU meeting. 50k is surely a decent striker and the idiots against Brackley cost us this season. (Being objective however, looking at Cal's recruitment, no guarantee that he would have found a decent striker with that additional £££ in his budget) Back to this again. Be get beat and it’s always the pitch invaders fault, win and no one says anything. Same old It clearly cost us a lot of money, it was stated at the CFU meeting. Accept it. It wouldn't have guaranteed us a playoff place or promotion. It would have given us a bigger budget which MAY have allowed us to bring in a different striker option.
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Post by league2 on Apr 13, 2024 17:01:33 GMT
I would love to know who we were going to sign with the 40,000 pound. The pitch invaders did not put us in 11th place this season its just been such a poor season ,at home its been dire
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Post by muchwenlock on Apr 13, 2024 17:02:35 GMT
Completely deflated at the minute and a lot of hard questions need to be asked . I will start with is CM as good a manager as we think or did he just get lucky recruiting Kurt who went on to have a fantastic season and paper over a lot of the cracks
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Post by Suomen Sininen on Apr 13, 2024 17:08:41 GMT
That's the problem,it wasn't £30k, in effect it is at least more like £50k and counting. That was discussed at the CFU meeting. 50k is surely a decent striker and the idiots against Brackley cost us this season. (Being objective however, looking at Cal's recruitment, no guarantee that he would have found a decent striker with that additional £££ in his budget) Back to this again. Be get beat and it’s always the pitch invaders fault, win and no one says anything. Same old So £50k less in the budget is irrelevant?
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Post by trev on Apr 13, 2024 17:09:09 GMT
Back to this again. Be get beat and it’s always the pitch invaders fault, win and no one says anything. Same old It clearly cost us a lot of money, it was stated at the CFU meeting. Accept it. It wouldn't have guaranteed us a playoff place or promotion. It would have given us a bigger budget which MAY have allowed us to bring in a different striker option. Whilst the budget was clearly affected at start of season, how much additional income was generated by cup run ?
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Post by eltonblues on Apr 13, 2024 17:09:36 GMT
Lame effort second half. Rethink needed. Weeks doing fancy pirouettes to look good in the middle of the pitch in that situation was pathetic. A bit of heat of the moment blame maybe, but I'm tired of him now. Been a common theme of his style this season.
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Post by Suomen Sininen on Apr 13, 2024 17:09:57 GMT
I would love to know who we were going to sign with the 40,000 pound. The pitch invaders did not put us in 11th place this season its just been such a poor season ,at home its been dire So the £50k might not have helped improve the squad?? Not saying it's the be all and end all, but people sayingbthat £50k wouldn't have impoved the squad obviously have another agenda.
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Post by theshed1 on Apr 13, 2024 17:15:22 GMT
I would love to know who we were going to sign with the 40,000 pound. The pitch invaders did not put us in 11th place this season its just been such a poor season ,at home its been dire 40k equates to a grand a week which is ludicrous for this level but surely that would get some striker
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Post by weareblues on Apr 13, 2024 17:23:14 GMT
Just sign Kurt Willoughby back for starters. Would have made all the difference to be honest. ! Forget about him he's probably never going to play for us again... Every match thread without fail someone mentions him.
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Post by league2 on Apr 13, 2024 17:24:22 GMT
Whos to say that money would of been spent on players wages
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Post by weareblues on Apr 13, 2024 17:26:13 GMT
Our budgets a weird one was told few weeks back that we've apparantley got numerous players on 800+ a week and also got first team regulars on less then 100 a week...
Don't know how true it is but baffles my head that some of them players are earning wages like that and we're still not making play offs minnimum.
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Post by btb on Apr 13, 2024 17:26:59 GMT
The nobs who ran on the pitch badly hurt the club. Please don’t do it again. But it’s not a major factor in what has gone down. Tactics and performances just haven’t been good enough
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Post by yossergolf on Apr 13, 2024 17:31:29 GMT
Our budgets a weird one was told few weeks back that we've apparantley got numerous players on 800+ a week and also got first team regulars on less then 100 a week... Don't know how true it is but baffles my head that some of them players are earning wages like that and we're still not making play offs minnimum. We should not have players on £800 in my opinion, that is a ridiculous amount for part time players. The only way we will know is by looking at accounts when released for salaries, costs etc. can imagine some of ex youth players who have come through over the past 12 months probably on the £100 figure.
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Post by Harry Lime on Apr 13, 2024 17:42:11 GMT
Our budgets a weird one was told few weeks back that we've apparantley got numerous players on 800+ a week and also got first team regulars on less then 100 a week... Don't know how true it is but baffles my head that some of them players are earning wages like that and we're still not making play offs minnimum. We should not have players on £800 in my opinion, that is a ridiculous amount for part time players. The only way we will know is by looking at accounts when released for salaries, costs etc. can imagine some of ex youth players who have come through over the past 12 months probably on the £100 figure. Isn't £800 the going rate for a good player in this league now though? That's the problem with the sugar daddy owners. They just push up the wages for everyone else. It would be interesting to see who is actually earning what. I suspect some people's views on certain players might change if they knew this. Is player A 3 times better than player B? It's all about getting value. I'm not saying we should know this information but it might be helpful when judging a player.
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Post by yossergolf on Apr 13, 2024 17:54:08 GMT
We should not have players on £800 in my opinion, that is a ridiculous amount for part time players. The only way we will know is by looking at accounts when released for salaries, costs etc. can imagine some of ex youth players who have come through over the past 12 months probably on the £100 figure. Isn't £800 the going rate for a good player in this league now though? That's the problem with the sugar daddy owners. They just push up the wages for everyone else. It would be interesting to see who is actually earning what. I suspect some people's views on certain players might change if they knew this. Is player A 3 times better than player B? It's all about getting value. I'm not saying we should know this information but it might be helpful when judging a player. Think a salary in excess of £30k for a part time player would be excessive for any current members of our squad. Think the club offers a great platform for players to showcase themselves to clubs higher up the pyramid. Even though we get very good gates the revenue generated does not match those numbers due to the offers we make to entice fans. Therefore our major chance of getting a good lump sum is by selling developing players. Currently we probably only have one player that falls in to this category, Harrison Burke. If other clubs have looked at him them it probably benefits the club more by selling him, for at least £300k, that trying to build around him. We have limits on what we bring in via season tickets, gate receipts and build the budget so player sales is key to our model. Any cup revenue should then be used to improve the squad as we go. If clubs are paying stupid money for average players then it will only end one way.
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Post by tarvinblue on Apr 13, 2024 17:56:35 GMT
I’d love to know how much we’re paying Joel Taylor and Charlie Caton …
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Post by Lobster on Apr 13, 2024 17:57:52 GMT
That's the problem,it wasn't £30k, in effect it is at least more like £50k and counting. That was discussed at the CFU meeting. 50k is surely a decent striker and the idiots against Brackley cost us this season. (Being objective however, looking at Cal's recruitment, no guarantee that he would have found a decent striker with that additional £££ in his budget) Back to this again. Be get beat and it’s always the pitch invaders fault, win and no one says anything. Same old What do you expect, it's not because of them when we win, is it? We haven't won as many as last season, and that's partially (not entirely) because their actions cost the club money and crowds. They have to accept responsibility and blame for that, and if they don't, they're never going to change.
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Post by MPW on Apr 13, 2024 18:01:47 GMT
Cal mentions that there was an incident involving some Brackley supporters. Anyone know what happened?
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Post by MPW on Apr 13, 2024 18:08:53 GMT
I’d love to know how much we’re paying Joel Taylor and Charlie Caton … Caton was on fire each time he came back from his injuries earlier in the season, but I think he’s become too injury prone. He’s under contract for another season, but whether he’s fit and happy time will tell… Taylor has been one of the poorest players I’ve seen this season. He just doesn’t look interested and should be first out of the door. Massively disappointing as I’m sure he’ll be one of the higher earners too.
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Post by Jack on Apr 13, 2024 18:17:04 GMT
Brackley was pretty much the worst fixture we could have had in our circumstances.
A poor season, where we’ve struggled to really get going at any point, still saw us only 3 or 4 points off the playoffs. That’s probably what is the most frustrating thing - this was a weak league and we’ve missed an opportunity.
Reasons have been done to death but I back Cal to put it right next season. I’d expect a decent amount of changes and I think that’s healthy. There’s very few that I’m desperate to see the back of as I think they’ve all given their best, but we’ve got to find a way to do more with our limited budget and I think that probably starts with looking at our most injury prone players. No use to us next season in the stands.
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Post by arthuro on Apr 13, 2024 18:22:34 GMT
Lame effort second half. Rethink needed. Weeks doing fancy pirouettes to look good in the middle of the pitch in that situation was pathetic. A bit of heat of the moment blame maybe, but I'm tired of him now. Got another two years of him. Same as the bloke who gave him this contract. So disappointed to be stuck in this awful league for another year but the truth of it is that we have been nowhere near good enough losing to some woeful teams who get hammered most weeks by some of the more competent teams in this division. Player recruitment this summer been abysmal. The likes of Burton, Connor Evans, Goodson are clear examples of this. Were they scouted by the manager or just signed because they were available? The tactics are so rigid and we’ve seen some appalling game management in recent months. Also, forget about entertainment on a Saturday at CH1 because a lot of the games have been mind numbing. A good proportion of the senior pros who are not doubt on the higher salaries have not performed all season have not delivered like Whitehouse, Weeks and Taylor. Is it down to them or is it the system they are being asked to fit into? We’ve seen square pegs trying to be fitted into round holes for months. It has been a truly woeful season and now the board must really sit down and make a huge decision because with the better players likely to leave and the appalling player recruitment in the summer is Calum the right man to take us into next season?
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Post by Lobster on Apr 13, 2024 18:23:22 GMT
Would bet money Cal is already looking at players who’d suit us for next season. Can’t exactly blame him for recruitment as there was excitement from everyone for near enough all the signing pre-season, injuries killed us early on, definitely had a massive impact. Some signings brought in during season haven’t worked out but there’s far more less players to choose from so it’s one of them. Bit of luck throughout the season and we make the playoffs, roll on next season with Cal Disagree with that if I'm being honest. The problem at this level is that us supporters don't know the players that may be available, or what they're like. I queried the Goodson and Burton signings after watching them preseason. Neither looked what we needed. We've tried something like 10 strikers over this season, and none of them has really succeeded, for various reasons. Some might have been unlucky, some have had injuries, some a lack of ability. You could argue we seriously reduced our chances of a top play off position by losing 3 away games in August against the 3 worst sides in the division. Add 7 or 9 points to our total and we've had a good season. Cal will know all this better than us. He'll do it better next season. It will be interesting (or worrying) to see which players leave this summer. We go again next season in what's likely to be a tougher division. Which makes me think it's probably not strikers that are the problem. Yes, we'd all love a 20+ goal striker, but most teams don't have one. Tamworth have won the league with their top scorer on 14 goals. So if you don't have one, you need to find different ways to score goals and win games. For me, the midfield doesn't work. Most notably, Weeks has had a poor season, in fact he's been poor for two of the last three seasons, but excellent in the one in between, who coincidentally or otherwise was the one Glendon missed entirely. Glendon, you'd have to say, has come back well from a season-long injury and is going to finish the season as our top scorer, so it's not his fault. But Weeks is the one under contract for next season, I understand. It's going to take a brave and perhaps unpopular decision, and I don't know the answer myself, but I think that midfield has got to change.
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Post by 1paulcarden on Apr 13, 2024 18:48:28 GMT
All I want is to be patronised. Something we said was coming arrived. Tell me it’s not the case and we’re about to win League One.
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Post by Harry Lime on Apr 13, 2024 19:22:25 GMT
Disagree with that if I'm being honest. The problem at this level is that us supporters don't know the players that may be available, or what they're like. I queried the Goodson and Burton signings after watching them preseason. Neither looked what we needed. We've tried something like 10 strikers over this season, and none of them has really succeeded, for various reasons. Some might have been unlucky, some have had injuries, some a lack of ability. You could argue we seriously reduced our chances of a top play off position by losing 3 away games in August against the 3 worst sides in the division. Add 7 or 9 points to our total and we've had a good season. Cal will know all this better than us. He'll do it better next season. It will be interesting (or worrying) to see which players leave this summer. We go again next season in what's likely to be a tougher division. Which makes me think it's probably not strikers that are the problem. Yes, we'd all love a 20+ goal striker, but most teams don't have one. Tamworth have won the league with their top scorer on 14 goals. So if you don't have one, you need to find different ways to score goals and win games. For me, the midfield doesn't work. Most notably, Weeks has had a poor season, in fact he's been poor for two of the last three seasons, but excellent in the one in between, who coincidentally or otherwise was the one Glendon missed entirely. Glendon, you'd have to say, has come back well from a season-long injury and is going to finish the season as our top scorer, so it's not his fault. But Weeks is the one under contract for next season, I understand. It's going to take a brave and perhaps unpopular decision, and I don't know the answer myself, but I think that midfield has got to change. I think the lack of quality in the strikers, and the imbalance in midfield, are both to blame. Glendon has scored a few this season, but the team and shape have been built around him as a no.10 type player. Meaning we have one less central striker at times. To get promoted you probably need to score 70+ goals in the regular season. It didn't look like we had that in August. I get the view that the controlled build up starves the strikers of space to move into. I agree with that. It's not a good balance. Luckily the defence and keeper have been excellent this season.
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Post by chesterken on Apr 13, 2024 19:28:33 GMT
It’s obviously very disappointing that the season has ended this way and it’s a massive understatement to say I’mI not looking forward to next weeks final game ,Darlington will be celebrating like they’ve won the league but it will feel like a funeral for us and no doubt it will be our lowest attendance of the season. That said a few decent signing in pre season will get us back onside although it certainly doesn’t feel like it at the moment.
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Post by tooth on Apr 13, 2024 20:01:17 GMT
I’d love to know how much we’re paying Joel Taylor and Charlie Caton … agree on taylor your a bit harsh on caton though there is a player there i think
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Post by RonD on Apr 13, 2024 20:01:30 GMT
It’s obviously very disappointing that the season has ended this way and it’s a massive understatement to say I’mI not looking forward to next weeks final game ,Darlington will be celebrating like they’ve won the league but it will feel like a funeral for us and no doubt it will be our lowest attendance of the season. That said a few decent signing in pre season will get us back onside although it certainly doesn’t feel like it at the moment. Still be a decent gate. They've got 500 tickets which I imagine they will sell.
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Post by tooth on Apr 13, 2024 20:03:40 GMT
Lame effort second half. Rethink needed. Weeks doing fancy pirouettes to look good in the middle of the pitch in that situation was pathetic. A bit of heat of the moment blame maybe, but I'm tired of him now. Got another two years of him. Same as the bloke who gave him this contract. So disappointed to be stuck in this awful league for another year but the truth of it is that we have been nowhere near good enough losing to some woeful teams who get hammered most weeks by some of the more competent teams in this division. Player recruitment this summer been abysmal. The likes of Burton, Connor Evans, Goodson are clear examples of this. Were they scouted by the manager or just signed because they were available? The tactics are so rigid and we’ve seen some appalling game management in recent months. Also, forget about entertainment on a Saturday at CH1 because a lot of the games have been mind numbing. A good proportion of the senior pros who are not doubt on the higher salaries have not performed all season have not delivered like Whitehouse, Weeks and Taylor. Is it down to them or is it the system they are being asked to fit into? We’ve seen square pegs trying to be fitted into round holes for months. It has been a truly woeful season and now the board must really sit down and make a huge decision because with the better players likely to leave and the appalling player recruitment in the summer is Calum the right man to take us into next season? who are we going to get as manager then there are not many options out there
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