Alan
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Post by Alan on Aug 21, 2017 20:41:25 GMT
I think many are forgetting that the many members on the current board are those that also sacked Steve Burr, despite many suggesting they didn't have the bollocks too. Many are also talking about potentially sacking somebody with a contract; a legal document that would cost the club money and if not done correctly, possible legal action. Do I think things are going well? No I don't, in fact I am gutted it is seemingly no happening for Jon, because he is a genuinely nice guy who gets what this club is about. He has brought a lot of good to Chester through his previous work on the Community Trust and the relationship developed in bringing the players closer to supporters. I know most of the board very well and some of the accusations being thrown at them is nothing short of liable. I get the frustrations, I feel it myself at the moment, but Christ, some people need to just read over what they are typing before pressing reply. Imagine every member of the board stood down tomorrow. Easy to say they should do this and that until there is a scenario when there is nobody there to do what we want. Criticism is fine, but it also needs to be constructive. I'm sick of hearing all this nice guy nonsense, no home win since December, his tactics are a joke, what other club would put up with this? We keep mccarthy and we get relegated simple as,but I think some on the board want relegation, local games and bigger gatesThen you think wrong. Last year we stayed up. Over the close season, Jon was given the opportunity to put last season's failings right and if the board deem it right to, they will make the decision that is required. |
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Post by jb on Aug 21, 2017 20:48:05 GMT
Has none of the board questioned McCarthy as to why we have only four defenders in the whole squad and yet five central midfielders? Not seen such a disproportionate squad since the days of Simon Davies and his 8 central midfielders. An injury to one of those four and the defensive is knackered.
If he has been questioned did he give a cantankerous and churlish response like he gives to Neil Turner which doesn't show him in the best light and certainly not as this nice guy he is supposed to be?
Sorry but this squad building is very concerning and comes across as bad management once again.
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Alan
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Post by Alan on Aug 21, 2017 20:50:45 GMT
Has none of the board questioned McCarthy as to why we have only four defenders in the whole squad and yet five central midfielders? Not seen such a disproportionate squad since the days of Simon Davies and his 8 central midfielders. An injury to one of those four and the defensive is knackered. If he has been questioned did he give a cantankerous and churlish response like he gives to Neil Turner which doesn't show him in the best light and certainly not as this nice guy he is supposed to be? Sorry but this squad building is very concerning and comes across as bad management once again. Apart from monthly board meetings, there are also bi-weekly, weekly if required, Op's board meetings. Jon is expected to attend these meetings too and I imagine conversations will have been had. At the same time, the Manager is the Manager and he is given a budget to spend without interference from the board, as it should be. |
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Post by jb on Aug 21, 2017 21:13:29 GMT
Has none of the board questioned McCarthy as to why we have only four defenders in the whole squad and yet five central midfielders? Not seen such a disproportionate squad since the days of Simon Davies and his 8 central midfielders. An injury to one of those four and the defensive is knackered. If he has been questioned did he give a cantankerous and churlish response like he gives to Neil Turner which doesn't show him in the best light and certainly not as this nice guy he is supposed to be? Sorry but this squad building is very concerning and comes across as bad management once again. Apart from monthly board meetings, there are also bi-weekly, weekly if required, Op's board meetings. Jon is expected to attend these meetings too and I imagine conversations will have been had. At the same time, the Manager is the Manager and he is given a budget to spend without interference from the board, as it should be. Thanks for your response. Appreciate it. |
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Post by trublu on Aug 22, 2017 7:57:15 GMT
Ive seen some people bandying about talk of a boycott. With gates of 1600 on a Saturday in August, a boycott is surely unnecessary?
Theres 800-1000 people whove voted with their wallet there. Once you break the habit it isnt a given that youll be tempted back.
Hard to put my finger on which part it is thats doing the damage, the results or the woeful style of play. McCarthy must know that his tactics are awful to watch and failing to get results. So why the abbrasive interviews.
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Post by tarvinblue on Aug 22, 2017 8:06:12 GMT
Ive seen some people bandying about talk of a boycott. With gates of 1600 on a Saturday in August, a boycott is surely unnecessary? Theres 800-1000 people whove voted with their wallet there. Once you break the habit it isnt a given that youll be tempted back. Hard to put my finger on which part it is thats doing the damage, the results or the woeful style of play. McCarthy must know that his tactics are awful to watch and failing to get results. So why the abbrasive interviews. Just amused to read on Twitter that a Macclesfield fan has sent Andy Halls a tweet backing him to score on Monday. His response was that he would be happy just to get over the halfway line. Says it all. Won't be long before these players down tools completely on JM, however much of a 'nice guy' he is. |
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Post by eyeswideopen on Aug 22, 2017 8:25:47 GMT
Well boycotting can work eventually. Blackpool fans are doing it right now and they will get results in the end. OK for season ticket holders but otherwise we are destroying our own club by boycotting. I know it's painful, but better to go and make your feelings known at the match or write to the club expressing your views. Best post I have read on here.
If the board are to sack JM, they will need finances to do this. By boycotting it sends the wrong message out for me as a fan owned club. When we boycotted under the SV era, it was to stop him from lining his pockets. We know that all the money we turn through the club goes back into the club, so in essence we will slowly destroy ourselves.
I think what is needed is a message that Chester fans are prepared to come and watch their team, but not with JM in charge. Pack the stadium out and let the board know your feelings inside the ground, rather than from your armchairs.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Aug 22, 2017 11:12:43 GMT
We Blues are a famously loyal bunch, we've been through more shite than most club's supporters combined, we've seen many things that have led to rightful boycotts over the years but this isn't one of them.
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Post by btb on Aug 22, 2017 11:30:14 GMT
You have to be a special kind of stupid to think that a boycott is the answer. If you don't want to go, that's fine, it's your money. But boycotting a supporter run club, seriously?!
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Post by rick on Aug 22, 2017 11:38:31 GMT
My thoughts on the current plight we're in.
Results and performances so far this season have been totally unacceptable. Sutton apart, none of the other 3 teams have got off to a flyer. We make the opposition look like world beaters with our appalling tactics I can understand if we're up against a superior team, trying to hold onto a slender lead. But to use these tactics at home is totally wrong in my view. If we were winning, then fair enough, but as we all know, the results have been poor.
Pre-season. They've had an extra week compared to other teams. Really? What is there to show for it?!
We've showed in patches that when we play football, we're got the makings of a reasonable side, how the hell JM can't see this is beyond me.
We've enough senior players in the squad, I suggest some of them have a meeting with JM and tell him enough is enough.
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Post by billyw on Aug 22, 2017 12:08:38 GMT
My thoughts on the current plight we're in. Results and performances so far this season have been totally unacceptable. Sutton apart, none of the other 3 teams have got off to a flyer. We make the opposition look like world beaters with our appalling tactics I can understand if we're up against a superior team, trying to hold onto a slender lead. But to use these tactics at home is totally wrong in my view. If we were winning, then fair enough, but as we all know, the results have been poor. Pre-season. They've had an extra week compared to other teams. Really? What is there to show for it?! We've showed in patches that when we play football, we're got the makings of a reasonable side, how the hell JM can't see this is beyond me. We've enough senior players in the squad, I suggest some of them have a meeting with JM and tell him enough is enough. I think that is what Johnny Hunt did. |
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Post by The Angry Agenda on Aug 22, 2017 12:23:09 GMT
Has none of the board questioned McCarthy as to why we have only four defenders in the whole squad and yet five central midfielders? Not seen such a disproportionate squad since the days of Simon Davies and his 8 central midfielders. An injury to one of those four and the defensive is knackered. If he has been questioned did he give a cantankerous and churlish response like he gives to Neil Turner which doesn't show him in the best light and certainly not as this nice guy he is supposed to be? Sorry but this squad building is very concerning and comes across as bad management once again. Apart from monthly board meetings, there are also bi-weekly, weekly if required, Op's board meetings. Jon is expected to attend these meetings too and I imagine conversations will have been had. At the same time, the Manager is the Manager and he is given a budget to spend without interference from the board, as it should be.Totally understandable to a point, however if McCarthy was managing a pub, and had 4 barrels of Lager to last him, and just kept on ordering barrels of Bitter, then wether he's managing the place or not, someone higher up would actually question his policy and ask how's he gonna survive with such a small amount. |
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Post by jb on Aug 22, 2017 12:24:06 GMT
Boycotting the club is the worst suggestion since it was mooted that Geoffrey Boycott deserves a knighthood! It's cutting off our noses to spite our face. The club needs every penny and match day is critical to the club.
I personally would like a banner showing the number of matches since our last home win being unveiled. It would show the club that the fans aren't happy and may even spur the players on.
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Post by bonecrusher on Aug 22, 2017 16:10:33 GMT
Boycotting the club is the worst suggestion since it was mooted that Geoffrey Boycott deserves a knighthood! It's cutting off our noses to spite our face. The club needs every penny and match day is critical to the club. I personally would like a banner showing the number of matches since our last home win being unveiled. It would show the club that the fans aren't happy and may even spur the players on. Well said - no way am I boycotting. I'm getting along to support my club. This is way different to the SV era when the club was being systematically killed from the inside. To be fair this is just an appalling run of form - it'll happen again one day. And I'm not saying that i support the manager here. |
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Post by agl on Aug 22, 2017 16:29:11 GMT
Ive seen some people bandying about talk of a boycott. With gates of 1600 on a Saturday in August, a boycott is surely unnecessary? Theres 800-1000 people whove voted with their wallet there. Once you break the habit it isnt a given that youll be tempted back. Hard to put my finger on which part it is thats doing the damage, the results or the woeful style of play. McCarthy must know that his tactics are awful to watch and failing to get results. So why the abbrasive interviews. Just amused to read on Twitter that a Macclesfield fan has sent Andy Halls a tweet backing him to score on Monday. His response was that he would be happy just to get over the halfway line. Says it all. Won't be long before these players down tools completely on JM, however much of a 'nice guy' he is. That's quite damning. It was obvious last year that players didn't respect McCarthy. Looks like it's already unravelling |
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Post by sealking on Aug 22, 2017 16:45:15 GMT
Another way of looking at it is the longer he stays the less we pay him off, do we risk it and hope we become good or just avoid relegation like last year which leaves a year lefted on his contract. I know in regards to the first team we'll be and do better without him but we'll pay the price for change now. Dammed if we do Dammed if we don't
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Post by gone4eva on Aug 22, 2017 20:21:04 GMT
I would put money on the Board sacking McCarthy during the season - so before it's too late, why not do it now so a new manager has time to get us out of the bloody mess McCarthy has got us into. This will be shown to be a 100% correct prediction. The question is why not give a new man, or woman, more time? |
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Post by Dodge on Aug 23, 2017 14:17:48 GMT
Has none of the board questioned McCarthy as to why we have only four defenders in the whole squad and yet five central midfielders? Not seen such a disproportionate squad since the days of Simon Davies and his 8 central midfielders. An injury to one of those four and the defensive is knackered. If he has been questioned did he give a cantankerous and churlish response like he gives to Neil Turner which doesn't show him in the best light and certainly not as this nice guy he is supposed to be? Sorry but this squad building is very concerning and comes across as bad management once again.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Aug 23, 2017 16:45:29 GMT
Boycotting a fan owned club. So ridiculous it is unreal.
I was one of the people ,that led the boycott of Terry Smith and Steven Vaughan, but now is not the time.
And no the football and results are not good, under McCarthy and need addressing.
If you support your club you support it, even more so, if it is facing a difficult period.
I bet some of the people on here, as kids took, their ball home if they wasn't winning? lol
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