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Post by Johnnybling on Aug 22, 2017 6:25:24 GMT
Jon
Thanks for your email, of course we take your opinions and all those of loyal supporters very seriously.
We are fully focussed on delivering success and will always act with strength and in the best interests of the club. We have a strong group of players and every chance of delivering positive results over the coming weeks.
Kind Regards
Mark Maguire CEO
-----Original Message----- From: Jon Ellis [mailto:johnnybling1@gmail.com] Sent: 20 August 2017 18:45 To: Fans Subject: McCarthy
Something must give 😡18 home games and still no win
The fans are speaking and rightly so
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Post by Johnnybling on Aug 22, 2017 6:26:38 GMT
I read it as he hears us loud and clear however he is giving JM a few more games, at least I got a reply!
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Post by Firestick Frank on Aug 22, 2017 6:32:45 GMT
It's about as vague as you'd expect to be honest. Nobody from the club is going to come out shouting their mouths off about the manager.
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Post by Johnnybling on Aug 22, 2017 6:34:20 GMT
Here is my reply ....
Thank you for a quick reply, whilst we can not guarantee results, I will look forward to improved performances which in turn will hopefully put a few more points on the board, I am still not happy with the situation and feel he has been given enough chances already.
Regards Jon
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Post by tarvinblue on Aug 22, 2017 8:19:32 GMT
Jon Thanks for your email, of course we take your opinions and all those of loyal supporters very seriously. We are fully focussed on delivering success and will always act with strength and in the best interests of the club. We have a strong group of players and every chance of delivering positive results over the coming weeks. Kind Regards Mark Maguire CEO -----Original Message----- From: Jon Ellis [mailto:johnnybling1@gmail.com] Sent: 20 August 2017 18:45 To: Fans Subject: McCarthy Something must give 😡18 home games and still no win The fans are speaking and rightly so To be fair, he's saying what most of us think in that response. The next 6 games will dictate McCarthy's future, I believe. Macclesfield, Torquay and Solihull - at least 7 points required, with little expected from Aldershot, Gateshead or Ebbsfleet. Wouldn't be such a PR disaster to sack him, then.
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Post by eyeswideopen on Aug 22, 2017 8:31:29 GMT
Jon Thanks for your email, of course we take your opinions and all those of loyal supporters very seriously. We are fully focussed on delivering success and will always act with strength and in the best interests of the club. We have a strong group of players and every chance of delivering positive results over the coming weeks. Kind Regards Mark Maguire CEO -----Original Message----- From: Jon Ellis [mailto:johnnybling1@gmail.com] Sent: 20 August 2017 18:45 To: Fans Subject: McCarthy Something must give 😡18 home games and still no win The fans are speaking and rightly so I think that reply says more than it reads. If he ( Mark Maguire) had the intention of keeping JM on for a longer period, it should have read.
We are fully focused on delivering success and will always act with strength and in the best interests of the club. The manager has assembled a strong group of players and once the team gels, with his guidance we have every chance of delivering positive results over the coming weeks.
The fact he never even mentioned the root cause of the issue ( The manager)says it all for me.
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Post by Johnnybling on Aug 22, 2017 8:34:01 GMT
In that...?? Please elaborate
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Post by eyeswideopen on Aug 22, 2017 8:39:49 GMT
In that...?? Please elaborate I think MMs failure to even recognize the manager in his statement, says to me he has a set amount of games left before he will get the bullet. MM did not give him even the dreaded vote of confidence in his reply.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 8:51:48 GMT
Tend to agree with the above reading.
Again, although it is very much a key driver in MM's success in that it is a lot easier to sell a football club with 3000 gates than 1600, the football side of the business is managed by the CFU board. It is they who will be making any decisions over the management of the first team.
I would imagine that the board have been in contact with each other all weekend and would have agreed a way forward. Again I think it would be too soon to press the button with the above run of games upcoming, but feel that the above games will make or break JMc here. If the games are lost and gates continue to fall, the board will have no choice as income levels against costs will be unsustainable.
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Post by Anders on Aug 22, 2017 8:56:25 GMT
You’re only going to get an acknowledgement back, although I suppose you can try and read between the lines.
I’m sure they’re aware, the atmosphere on Saturday was a bit of a statement to the board that patience is wearing extremely thin, up until now the discontent expressed had largely been kept to online but on Saturday it was ringing out throughout the Stadium. It was the worst I’ve seen it since the Eastbourne game. Maybe you can put up with and ignore a corner of the internet, you can’t ignore boo’s, jeers and the sight of the manager turning around and arguing with fans in the stands though.
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Post by adrianh on Aug 22, 2017 10:03:24 GMT
Tend to agree with the above reading. Again, although it is very much a key driver in MM's success in that it is a lot easier to sell a football club with 3000 gates than 1600, the football side of the business is managed by the CFU board. It is they who will be making any decisions over the management of the first team. I would imagine that the board have been in contact with each other all weekend and would have agreed a way forward. Again I think it would be too soon to press the button with the above run of games upcoming, but feel that the above games will make or break JMc here. If the games are lost and gates continue to fall, the board will have no choice as income levels against costs will be unsustainable. Not quite how things work. Football matters and the daily running of the club come under the operations board, which meets every week. That board would report / recommend to CFU board.
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Post by thetheremin on Aug 22, 2017 10:11:52 GMT
Bottom line is having recruited well he needs some time to get the team gelling.
10 games is entirely reasonable.
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Post by sqzl on Aug 22, 2017 10:13:11 GMT
Professional response, and one you would expect from someone in MM's position. I don't think you can read too much into it personally. If we win the next 3 on the trot JM will be in line for an extension.
Joking aside, things need to change, the board aren't stupid. Attendances are terrible, anyone would think we were relegated last year.
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Post by Johnnybling on Aug 22, 2017 10:54:12 GMT
At least the CEO is aware we aren't happy latest response from Mark fair do's he has taken the opportunity to respond not once but twice.
Jon
I completely understand your frustration - please trust me when I say that we are very strong in our decision making, we are not blindly backing a manager because we are afraid of a tough decision. So long as we are strong the club will be fine - I genuinely believe we will see a turn round in results very soon.
Thanks again.
Mark
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Post by backtottheleague on Aug 22, 2017 10:57:52 GMT
I read it as he hears us loud and clear however he is giving JM a few more games, at least I got a reply! OK,he gets a a few more games,and I can see happening against all odds he gets a few points on the board.then he'll say I told you it would come right.but for how long ?we want a bit of hope that this club can go forward this season with the team that's here already.but I think it's the players who are not getting the encouragement from a coach who has got no managerial ability.it's only four games in so there would be plenty of time to get it right.if he gets say another six games and doesn't get it right,us fans will right the season off.and be back to square one.get rid now and save a lot of heartache.
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Post by bogsnorkel on Aug 22, 2017 11:17:23 GMT
Respect to Mark for reply promptly with professional and carefully worded responses.
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Post by Johnnybling on Aug 22, 2017 11:22:49 GMT
Yes I agree I was pleasantly surprised, I forgot to mention his recent successes on the commercial front. But yes a well worded response on both replies.
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Post by btb on Aug 22, 2017 11:25:52 GMT
Fair play to MM for those Emails. He is in a no win situation really. But this whole situation has been brought about by one man and in all honesty I think he's lost the crowd now. Unless there's a mirracle set of results it's hard to see how he wins that support and trust back.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 12:10:09 GMT
cant see us getting anything from our next 2 games tbh then it leaves jm with a must win vs torquay anything less then i think that will be that
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Post by sqzl on Aug 22, 2017 12:20:17 GMT
cant see us getting anything from our next 2 games tbh then it leaves jm with a must win vs torquay anything less then i think that will be that No reason why we can't beat Macc. We have to start the game like we played second half against Sutton though, not another terrible slow start. Shots did lose last match too, so they're beatable, although i tend to agree we may struggle. Macc and Torquay are two games most of us will say are winnable games though i would think?
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Post by agl on Aug 22, 2017 13:07:55 GMT
Macc is a must win, IMO. We have recruited some of their better players and they have a couple in Lloyd and Durrell that McCarthy chose not to try to resign. Lose this one and I really don't see any way back. Even a draw at this stage, assuming we lose at Shots, won't appease the home fans and rightly so. Still think he will get ten games but he must be aware that it's a results business and the stats are stacking up against him. Maguire is making it very clear that patience is not endless but it's the right thing to do to back the manager for as long as possible. Suspect there are a few who would accept defeat to Macc in the hope it hastens JMs departure. I'm not one of them.
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Post by Johnnybling on Aug 28, 2017 20:51:00 GMT
Another email sent as I am disgusted with what's happening at my club. How do his bloke is still calling himself a football manager is beyond me.
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Post by dmcnally on Aug 28, 2017 21:30:43 GMT
Another email sent as I am disgusted with what's happening at my club. How do his bloke is still calling himself a football manager is beyond me. What was said this time mate
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Post by tarvinblue on Aug 28, 2017 21:39:46 GMT
I imagine you will receive a copy and paste of the previous reply. Can see the board grimly holding on, at least for the Torquay and Solihull games, in the vague hope he might rescue enough points to retain a job for one last home game. His bullshit excuses and reasoning seem to have them hooked everytime. We can perhaps expect a statement encouraging us to all get down to Torquay and back the boys. 'The players know their jobs, so let's do ours'. The players haven't a clue what their jobs are and are shot of every drop of confidence. That's down to one bumbling, deluded fool.
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Post by Johnnybling on Aug 28, 2017 21:55:49 GMT
I imagine you will receive a copy and paste of the previous reply. Can see the board grimly holding on, at least for the Torquay and Solihull games, in the vague hope he might rescue enough points to retain a job for one last home game. His bullshit excuses and reasoning seem to have them hooked everytime. We can perhaps expect a statement encouraging us to all get down to Torquay and back the boys. 'The players know their jobs, so let's do ours'. The players haven't a clue what their jobs are and are shot of every drop of confidence. That's down to one bumbling, deluded fool. Dear Mark I'm sorry but that performance was beyond painful, no passion, no cohesion, no structure, and I don't mean by the players either, enough is enough, gates are plummeting and the fans have had enough, we fluked three points at Aldershot, JM interviews are diabolical he simply my hasn't a clue. He has no respect for the media and is always out to defend the end result. What sort of hold has he got over the club? ANY other manager would of been gone by now 19 home games without a win, this game is a results business Mark, you know that and WE fans have a right to demand actions. I think we have been patient enough. If we carry on then we are looking a massive loss towards the end of the season, as gates will plummet sub 1500. Paul Cox is available please take note. This manager has had more chances than I care to remember, for the sake of the club, the fans and everyone concerned with Chester FC please make a decision now. We are heading for the conference north at this rate. The performance of the players for the manager is simply not there. Incompetence is one thing but blaming tiredness for goodness sake all the clubs played twice with 48 hours. He is out of his depth without a doubt. Sorry to reply again, however I am so angry with what's happening to my club. I speak for many fans in Deva-Chat too.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Aug 28, 2017 22:11:18 GMT
I wonder how long his words in today's programme will last!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 22:23:43 GMT
I wonder how long his words in today's programme will last! Was interesting reading today. I personally think both Macca and Maguire should be held accountable. They've assembled a squad nowhere near good enough for a league campaign. We've gone for 'quality' but neglected to build a squad that could produce a strong XI up until Christmas at least. As it is, we are struggling to field a strong starting XI in AUGUST! It's poor management and has likely put us in a position where if we were to replace the manager, the new manager won't have the funds to strengthen what we currently have
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Post by dmcnally on Aug 29, 2017 7:32:10 GMT
I wonder how long his words in today's programme will last! Was interesting reading today. I personally think both Macca and Maguire should be held accountable. They've assembled a squad nowhere near good enough for a league campaign. We've gone for 'quality' but neglected to build a squad that could produce a strong XI up until Christmas at least. As it is, we are struggling to field a strong starting XI in AUGUST! It's poor management and has likely put us in a position where if we were to replace the manager, the new manager won't have the funds to strengthen what we currently have Can't agree with that. Yes we lack some depth but that's always been the case with CFC since getting back to the conference. It's a really talented squad; just woefully mismanaged.
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Post by sqzl on Aug 29, 2017 7:53:15 GMT
Was interesting reading today. I personally think both Macca and Maguire should be held accountable. They've assembled a squad nowhere near good enough for a league campaign. We've gone for 'quality' but neglected to build a squad that could produce a strong XI up until Christmas at least. As it is, we are struggling to field a strong starting XI in AUGUST! It's poor management and has likely put us in a position where if we were to replace the manager, the new manager won't have the funds to strengthen what we currently have Can't agree with that. Yes we lack some depth but that's always been the case with CFC since getting back to the conference. It's a really talented squad; just woefully mismanaged. Would tend to agree. Most players we've signed placed mid table last season with their previous clubs, then come to us all all of a sudden are not good enough for the league? don't think so. It's the management alone that isn't good enough for this league, as well as Chappel. I gave him his due against the shots, he did make the difference, problem is it's his 1 game a season where he decided to show up.
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Post by eyeswideopen on Aug 29, 2017 14:03:33 GMT
It also makes you think , how many players will recover from injury that bit quicker if there was a new man in charge?
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