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Post by bluboy79 on Aug 23, 2018 13:52:19 GMT
Unless his registration is sorted in next few days I think we should move on to trying to sign someone else, not sure why we can't get this resolved ? He isn't going to be fit and we are desperate for another forward .
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Post by Al on Aug 23, 2018 16:40:41 GMT
Unless his registration is sorted in next few days I think we should move on to trying to sign someone else, not sure why we can't get this resolved ? He isn't going to be fit and we are desperate for another forward . Not costing us anything as it's a pay as you play non contract deal. There is obviously some issues with this. If this international clearance is not forthcoming then how did he play for Ashton United last season and if he shouldn't have played for Ashton does that then mean Ashton fielded an ineligible player on their way to promotion last season? If so could the National League and FA issue a retrospective points deduction to Ashton United? |
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Post by uptheseals on Aug 23, 2018 16:42:31 GMT
Unless his registration is sorted in next few days I think we should move on to trying to sign someone else, not sure why we can't get this resolved ? He isn't going to be fit and we are desperate for another forward . Not costing us anything as it's a pay as you play non contract deal. There is obviously some issues with this. If this international clearance is not forthcoming then how did he play for Ashton United last season and if he shouldn't have played for Ashton does that then mean Ashton fielded an ineligible player on their way to promotion last season? If so could the National League and FA issue a retrospective points deduction to Ashton United? I was thinking this the other day, also I swear all Welsh clubs in football league come under English FA ? |
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Post by trublu on Aug 23, 2018 16:56:59 GMT
Uptheseals no it's a really strange system where the club's are governed by the Welsh FA even if they play in the English system.
From Wiki
Welsh teams participating below level 4 of the English football league system are governed by the FAW for disciplinary and administrative matters, whereas Welsh teams at level 4 and above of the English football league system are administered by the English FA for the 2011–12 season onwards.[18
As a Welshman myself I support the right of these clubs to remain in the previously joint league system and think some of the bullying by the FAW of these smaller clubs who have remained has been appalling down the years.
Stuff like what is happening to Smalley shouldn't be taking place. Hes clearly trying to earn a living but is pretty far down the list of priorities in some swanky office down in Cardiff I presume.
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Post by bluetartan on Aug 23, 2018 22:03:24 GMT
This whole situation does seem rather strange surely it can’t take this long to get clearance. FAW are accountable only to themselves, if there is a problem surely it can be announced what is it just one man in a smokey office in Cardiff.
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Post by oldsealandroadender on Aug 24, 2018 0:36:52 GMT
The FAW can overturn red cards for the likes of Wxm pretty damn quick, why the delay on a player registration? Isn't it a couple of years since he played in Wales? And hasn't he played in England since anyway?
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Post by Wortleyblue on Aug 24, 2018 5:33:54 GMT
The FAW can overturn red cards for the likes of Wxm pretty damn quick, why the delay on a player registration? Isn't it a couple of years since he played in Wales? And hasn't he played in England since anyway? Because the FAW luv the scum and the like and this is an opportunity for them to screw us over so they will take forever maybe the player should sue them because as said on another thread its his livelihood they are messing about as well. I also thought that under European law you were allowed to work anywhere in europe |
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Post by Al on Aug 24, 2018 5:49:52 GMT
All this should have been sorted when Ashton United took him on.
I'm sure I read somewhere that this can take anything up to 6 weeks to resolve?
I would be very interested to get some sort of understanding as to whether or not he was ineligible whilst playing for Ashton United and whether the delay is due, in part, to that
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Aug 24, 2018 6:25:37 GMT
The FAW can overturn red cards for the likes of Wxm pretty damn quick, why the delay on a player registration? Isn't it a couple of years since he played in Wales? And hasn't he played in England since anyway? Because the FAW luv the scum and the like and this is an opportunity for them to screw us over so they will take forever maybe the player should sue them because as said on another thread its his livelihood they are messing about as well. I also thought that under European law you were allowed to work anywhere in europe We've had an awful lot of strange conspiracy theories on here very recently but that one takes the biscuit - the FAW want to screw Chester FC over? Why on earth would they? |
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Post by Wortleyblue on Aug 24, 2018 8:53:42 GMT
Because the FAW luv the scum and the like and this is an opportunity for them to screw us over so they will take forever maybe the player should sue them because as said on another thread its his livelihood they are messing about as well. I also thought that under European law you were allowed to work anywhere in europe We've had an awful lot of strange conspiracy theories on here very recently but that one takes the biscuit - the FAW want to screw Chester FC over? Why on earth would they? Why else would they muck about with the registration |
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Aug 24, 2018 9:45:24 GMT
You made the accusation mate, why would they want to screw us over?
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Post by Lobster on Aug 24, 2018 10:45:13 GMT
I found this document which states that if a player wants to join an English club having previously played in another country, the club he wants to join has to fill in a form and send a copy of his passport to the English FA. This is then sent on to the relevant association (so the FAW in this case), who have 30 days to issue an International Transfer Certificate. So it could take a while, and something as daft as a player not being able to find his passport or having let it expire could delay things further. It all seems a hugely convoluted and unnecessary process, but that’s FIFA for you. |
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Post by dmcnally on Aug 24, 2018 11:08:16 GMT
I found this document which states that if a player wants to join an English club having previously played in another country, the club he wants to join has to fill in a form and send a copy of his passport to the English FA. This is then sent on to the relevant association (so the FAW in this case), who have 30 days to issue an International Transfer Certificate. So it could take a while, and something as daft as a player not being able to find his passport or having let it expire could delay things rather. It all seems a hugely convoluted and unnecessary process, but that’s FIFA for you. Wow, what’s next Fifa? Border control as the players come out the tunnel at the Deva? |
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Aug 24, 2018 11:20:17 GMT
As former Media Officer and Assistant Club Secretary at a WPL club we had to deal with this stuff all the time when it came to registering players.
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Post by happyclapper on Aug 24, 2018 11:36:42 GMT
I found this document which states that if a player wants to join an English club having previously played in another country, the club he wants to join has to fill in a form and send a copy of his passport to the English FA. This is then sent on to the relevant association (so the FAW in this case), who have 30 days to issue an International Transfer Certificate. So it could take a while, and something as daft as a player not being able to find his passport or having let it expire could delay things further. It all seems a hugely convoluted and unnecessary process, but that’s FIFA for you. I thought it was 30 days as well - I've used it in the past to sign lads who have previously been registered with the French FA and the Nigerian FA. However, if there is a contractual dispute between the player and his former club then this is not the case. The player would have to appeal to FIFA : The former association shall not issue an ITC if a contractual dispute has arisen between the former club and the professional. In such a case, the professional, the former club and/or the new club are entitled to lodge a claim with FIFA in accordance with article 22. FIFA shall then decide on the issue of the ITC and on sporting sanctions within 60 days. In any case, the decision on sporting sanctions shall be taken before the issue of the ITC. The issue of the ITC shall be without prejudice to compensation for breach of contract. FIFA may take provisional measures in exceptional circumstances. |
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