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Post by chislenko2 on Jan 2, 2020 23:47:27 GMT
You do wonder when we all talked 20/30 years ago about the rich get richer, the poor get poorer in football if groundhog Day is fast approaching.
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Post by Al on Jan 3, 2020 8:03:28 GMT
McMahon and Gritt have both resigned tonight. Club official statement says they are taking legal advice. What are they paying the solicitors with, buttons?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 8:26:13 GMT
McMahon and Gritt have both resigned tonight. Club official statement says they are taking legal advice. What are they paying the solicitors with, buttons? No Al, the promised on Scouts honour they will pay. Probably didn’t say when though!!!
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Post by Lobster on Jan 3, 2020 9:19:53 GMT
McMahon and Gritt have both resigned tonight. Club official statement says they are taking legal advice. What are they paying the solicitors with, buttons? They're probably in consultations with someone like this guy...
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Post by Churton Blue on Jan 3, 2020 17:29:38 GMT
I think it should be a case of league 2 north and south TBH. Leave Premier, Championship and league 1 as it is. Top team in League2/N and League 2/S go up as champions. The next 4 in each league playoff against eachother (the winners of each mini league go up making it 4 teams up as now) The national league would be replaced by 2 leagues North and South (same arrangements as above) An example of 2 leagues made up of League 2 and The national league would be as the leagues stand now; North.. Solihull, Notts c, Crewe, Walsall, Northampton, Mansfield, Port vale, Macc, Stockport, Wrexham, Chesterfield, Bradford c, Grimsby, Salford, Oldham, Scuntphorpe, Carlise, Morecombe, Halifax, Hartlepool, Chorley. South.. Colchester, Cheltenham, Plymouth, Cambridge, Orient, Stevenage, Crawley, Yeovil, Bromley, Boreham w, Woking, Barnet, Sutton, Dover, Eastleigh, Torquay, Aldershot, Daggers, Ebbsfleet Maidenhead. Some tasty matches in that lot. Less travel for teams and fans less expense and a strict wage cap would make it a viable couple of leagues Would never happen that The EFL have looked at reducing the number of teams in each league to help out with fixture congestion. An 88 or 80 team EFL would make sense to me with the fourth tier regionalised. Having a fifth tier played at a national level without TV money has always seamed crazy to me. A wage cap is an excellent idea.
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Post by rcb on Jan 3, 2020 18:51:43 GMT
The EFL have looked at reducing the number of teams in each league to help out with fixture congestion. An 88 or 80 team EFL would make sense to me with the fourth tier regionalised. Having a fifth tier played at a national level without TV money has always seamed crazy to me. A wage cap is an excellent idea.Jimmy Hill will be turning in his grave!
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Post by Churton Blue on Jan 3, 2020 19:58:21 GMT
The EFL have looked at reducing the number of teams in each league to help out with fixture congestion. An 88 or 80 team EFL would make sense to me with the fourth tier regionalised. Having a fifth tier played at a national level without TV money has always seamed crazy to me. A wage cap is an excellent idea.Jimmy Hill will be turning in his grave! Yes he will ! I meant to say salary cap and suspect Waggoner did as well. Common practice in American sport and I think operated by Super League and the Rugby Union Premiership in the UK.
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Post by mcseal on Jan 3, 2020 20:00:37 GMT
Jimmy Hill will be turning in his grave! Yes he will ! I meant to say salary cap and suspect Waggoner did as well. Common practice in American sport and I think operated by Super League and the Rugby Union Premiership in the UK. Unless you're Harlequins.
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Post by Churton Blue on Jan 3, 2020 20:08:16 GMT
Yes he will ! I meant to say salary cap and suspect Waggoner did as well. Common practice in American sport and I think operated by Super League and the Rugby Union Premiership in the UK. Unless you're Harlequins. Saracens broke it and have been suitably punished so it can work. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/50457698
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Post by mcseal on Jan 3, 2020 20:26:00 GMT
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Post by waggoner on Jan 4, 2020 10:55:28 GMT
Salary caps would keep people in check that's for sure
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Post by happyclapper on Jan 4, 2020 11:40:27 GMT
Salary caps would keep people in check that's for sure Problem is clubs find a way around these caps so they don't always work - it's rife in rugby league and union for players to be "employed" by companies owned by directors to bump their salaries up outside of the cap.
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Post by lincolnexile on Jan 22, 2020 9:16:00 GMT
I see Macclesfield have signed two more players on loan despite not paying the ones they’ve already got. I know they’ve been docked 6 points but when are the EFL going to get serious with them? More rumours about alleged takeovers but who is seriously going to be interested in taking over such a mess?
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Jan 22, 2020 11:46:46 GMT
English football was regionalised blow the third tier pre 1960 as many will remember. In France and Germany football is regionalised below the third tier whilst in Italy and Spain it is regionalised below the second tier. Of the five major football countries in Europe we are very much on our own by having five tiers played at a National level. I think it should be a case of league 2 north and south TBH. Leave Premier, Championship and league 1 as it is. Top team in League2/N and League 2/S go up as champions. The next 4 in each league playoff against eachother (the winners of each mini league go up making it 4 teams up as now) The national league would be replaced by 2 leagues North and South (same arrangements as above) An example of 2 leagues made up of League 2 and The national league would be as the leagues stand now; North.. Solihull, Notts c, Crewe, Walsall, Northampton, Mansfield, Port vale, Macc, Stockport, Wrexham, Chesterfield, Bradford c, Grimsby, Salford, Oldham, Scuntphorpe, Carlise, Morecombe, Halifax, Hartlepool, Chorley. South.. Colchester, Cheltenham, Plymouth, Cambridge, Orient, Stevenage, Crawley, Yeovil, Bromley, Boreham w, Woking, Barnet, Sutton, Dover, Eastleigh, Torquay, Aldershot, Daggers, Ebbsfleet Maidenhead. Some tasty matches in that lot. Less travel for teams and fans less expense and a strict wage cap would make it a viable couple of leagues This is a great post. Something has to be done, as currently clubs are trading beyond their means and the financial fair play thing just isn't working. The FA/PL, UEFA and FIFA have ceased to exist as arbiters of the game and seem now to be purely commercial ventures (see VAR - basically giving television the right to referee games). The biggest Premier League clubs will end up in a European Super League before long, which will provide massive financial competition for the Premiership. VAR is a massive nail in the coffin of telefootball, as it winds up even the pub fans too. Many people I know, big football fans, find the PL unwatchable due to this. A well run, competitive 4 division Football League would be around to pick up the pieces when the bubble above finally bursts. Sensibility around wages, well run financially stable historic clubs. The Championship is already a more enjoyable watch than the Premiership. Plus this would give us a great chance of getting back in amongst it as plenty of clubs wouldn't make the ground gradings!
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Post by Matt on Jan 22, 2020 11:52:59 GMT
Noticed there was Just over 1,100 for Macclesfields match against Crewe in the Football League, only made the crowd half respectable due to a huge following from Crewe which brough it to 2,300. Once they get relegated I think it'll finish them.
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Post by Lobster on Jan 22, 2020 12:40:50 GMT
I see Macclesfield have signed two more players on loan despite not paying the ones they’ve already got. I know they’ve been docked 6 points but when are the EFL going to get serious with them? More rumours about alleged takeovers but who is seriously going to be interested in taking over such a mess? Are they paying the loan players' wages though? Usually it's the parent club, isn't it?
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Post by chislenko2 on Jan 22, 2020 12:48:06 GMT
The EFL have looked at reducing the number of teams in each league to help out with fixture congestion. An 88 or 80 team EFL would make sense to me with the fourth tier regionalised. Having a fifth tier played at a national level without TV money has always seamed crazy to me. A wage cap is an excellent idea.Jimmy Hill will be turning in his grave! Have to be quite a big grave to accommodate the turning circle of his chin 😀
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Post by weareblues on Jan 22, 2020 14:24:45 GMT
I see Macclesfield have signed two more players on loan despite not paying the ones they’ve already got. I know they’ve been docked 6 points but when are the EFL going to get serious with them? More rumours about alleged takeovers but who is seriously going to be interested in taking over such a mess? Reminds me of a certain Hereford United 2013/14 season
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Post by Churton Blue on Jan 23, 2020 9:09:52 GMT
Salary caps would keep people in check that's for sure Problem is clubs find a way around these caps so they don't always work - it's rife in rugby league and union for players to be "employed" by companies owned by directors to bump their salaries up outside of the cap. Saracens did try and find a way around the rules but failed and have been punished further. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/51164177
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Post by Churton Blue on Jan 23, 2020 9:17:34 GMT
I see Macclesfield have signed two more players on loan despite not paying the ones they’ve already got. I know they’ve been docked 6 points but when are the EFL going to get serious with them? More rumours about alleged takeovers but who is seriously going to be interested in taking over such a mess? Reminds me of a certain Hereford United 2013/14 season It does. The EFL appear to be pathetic when it comes to enforcing their own rules. The National League do not have any meaningful rules on Financial Fair Play. It is long overdue that both Leagues bring in meaningful and effective rules and enforce them like the the Rugby Union Premiership have.
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Post by oldsealandroadender on Jan 23, 2020 10:38:14 GMT
It reminds me of when Swindon won the Championship but their promotion to the Premier League was blocked due to previous financial irregularities in the 1985/86 season. That was the season they beat us to the Fourth Division title. They should have been stripped of that title and it awarded to us as that was the season they fiddled the rules.
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Post by norwegianblue on Jan 23, 2020 20:46:30 GMT
It reminds me of when Swindon won the Championship but their promotion to the Premier League was blocked due to previous financial irregularities in the 1985/86 season. That was the season they beat us to the Fourth Division title. They should have been stripped of that title and it awarded to us as that was the season they fiddled the rules. I’m still bitter about that.
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Post by avfo on Aug 11, 2020 18:53:22 GMT
Statement from the EFL -
"An independent Arbitration Panel has upheld the EFL’s appeal in respect of the outcome of an independent Disciplinary Commission who in June 2020 had considered misconduct charges brought against Macclesfield Town.
"The charges related to failing to pay a number of players on the applicable payment dates due in March 2020, failing to act with utmost good faith in respect of matters with the EFL and for breaching an order, requirement, direction or instruction of the League.
"The Arbitration Panel confirmed that the two-point suspended sporting sanction activated on 19 June 2020 from previous proceedings will stand and in addition the four point deduction, originally suspended in the latest proceedings and only to be activated in the event of a further breach of Regulation 63.7 during season 2020/21, will be activated immediately and applied to the 2019/20 table.
"Today’s outcome leaves Macclesfield Town in 24th position in the table on 19 points with a points per game (PPG) total of 23.62, resulting in the Club’s relegation into the National League.
"The Arbitration panel’s decision is final and binding.
"The EFL will be making no further comment."
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Post by Moltisanti on Aug 11, 2020 18:58:34 GMT
Fantastic news
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Post by superman on Aug 11, 2020 19:09:17 GMT
Why is this fantastic news?
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Post by Moltisanti on Aug 11, 2020 19:15:06 GMT
Why is this fantastic news? Macclesfield have gone out the league. Really happy with the outcome.
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Post by superman on Aug 11, 2020 19:18:33 GMT
You have to be pretty sad if another club, and one that helped us out when we were in need, has owner problems and the fans suffer as a consequence.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2020 19:39:36 GMT
Them players who suffered more by not getting paid on time
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Post by Moltisanti on Aug 11, 2020 19:55:35 GMT
You have to be pretty sad if another club, and one that helped us out when we were in need, has owner problems and the fans suffer as a consequence. I’m pretty sad then. 👍🏼
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Post by g1 on Aug 11, 2020 21:22:28 GMT
Whilst I agree its the right decision how Stevenage are staying up is ludicrous and that idiot Westley they have won 3 games all season yet stay up EFL a complete and total joke once again
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