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Post by Johnnybling on Sept 3, 2017 11:34:52 GMT
Email macguire directly if everyone made there feelings known then we might get a response fans@chesterfc.com
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Post by whopper3 on Sept 3, 2017 11:42:13 GMT
Just emailed him. Told him he was incompetent and should walk the plank.
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Post by tarvinblue on Sept 3, 2017 11:53:45 GMT
Can we expect a 'Straight Talking Part 2' this week? 'I assure the fans we share you're frustration, I'm sure it will click soon. We aren't just blindly carrying on. Hopefully by Christmas the fans will have enjoyed a home win and we will only be 15 points off safety.'
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Post by Paul Da Part on Sept 3, 2017 12:23:45 GMT
I fear that it'll all fall on deaf ears. We've made our disgust known at the last 4 games & still no action has been taken bar players doing their token "blame us" interviews. Until John goes, I'll be staying away. Call me a "shit fan" or whatever, but this is my way of saying that enough is enough.
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Post by noddy on Sept 3, 2017 12:29:23 GMT
I will be there Saturday but the two people I go with are not bothering. I can imagine they won't be the only ones who decide to give it a miss. Can see a sub 1500 gate next weekend.
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Post by blue4life on Sept 3, 2017 12:47:19 GMT
Waste of time emailing the club there clearly not listening to the fans.
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Post by blue4life on Sept 3, 2017 12:48:36 GMT
I fear that it'll all fall on deaf ears. We've made our disgust known at the last 4 games & still no action has been taken bar players doing their token "blame us" interviews. Until John goes, I'll be staying away. Call me a "shit fan" or whatever, but this is my way of saying that enough is enough. You won't be the only one staying away mate.
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Post by Paul Da Part on Sept 3, 2017 13:01:35 GMT
I fear that it'll all fall on deaf ears. We've made our disgust known at the last 4 games & still no action has been taken bar players doing their token "blame us" interviews. Until John goes, I'll be staying away. Call me a "shit fan" or whatever, but this is my way of saying that enough is enough. You won't be the only one staying away mate. Sad it's come to the point where fans are feeling he need to vote with their feet over a manager. This is a situation we should never have been put in. Only way I would consider going if there was some sort of concerted effort to force the board to listen during the game. Or would that then warrant the "happy clappers" to have a go back? Or even the manager, he's got the brass neck to chat back.
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Post by jb on Sept 3, 2017 13:35:18 GMT
How about a protest such as a red card one at the next home game?
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Post by Firestick Frank on Sept 3, 2017 13:40:59 GMT
How about a protest such as a red card one at the next home game? Was thinking that myself. That way the club still get our money but we make our voices heard. This is the sort of thing why I raised the subject of having an ISA again - an independent supporters group distanced from the club. Could argue that fans can just do these sorts of protests themselves but organisation and "strength in numbers" helps.
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Post by tarvinblue on Sept 3, 2017 14:09:49 GMT
How about a protest such as a red card one at the next home game? Was thinking that myself. That way the club still get our money but we make our voices heard. This is the sort of thing why I raised the subject of having an ISA again - an independent supporters group distanced from the club. Could argue that fans can just do these sorts of protests themselves but organisation and "strength in numbers" helps. There are still a handful of people sat around me who will defend JM to the hilt. My fear would be that any type of visual protest would just create an Arsenal type situation, where fans are falling out in the stands. I have to say it's mainly the older generation that stick up for him - all those Senior Blues appearances seem to have reeled plenty of them in.
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 3, 2017 14:31:47 GMT
Can we expect a 'Straight Talking Part 2' this week? 'I assure the fans we share you're frustration, I'm sure it will click soon. We aren't just blindly carrying on. Hopefully by Christmas the fans will have enjoyed a home win and we will only be 15 points off safety.' I'm fairly confident behind the scenes it won't be so rosy as he makes out. They'll be talk of sacking him by now, definitely. IMO McCarthy won't be our manager by the end of this month. He'll have to go on a winning run throughout this month, which is highest unlikely.
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Post by billyw on Sept 3, 2017 15:06:44 GMT
Email macguire directly if everyone made there feelings known then we might get a response fans@chesterfc.com Done.
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Post by jb on Sept 3, 2017 15:27:26 GMT
Was thinking that myself. That way the club still get our money but we make our voices heard. This is the sort of thing why I raised the subject of having an ISA again - an independent supporters group distanced from the club. Could argue that fans can just do these sorts of protests themselves but organisation and "strength in numbers" helps. There are still a handful of people sat around me who will defend JM to the hilt. My fear would be that any type of visual protest would just create an Arsenal type situation, where fans are falling out in the stands. I have to say it's mainly the older generation that stick up for him - all those Senior Blues appearances seem to have reeled plenty of them in. Those who support McCarthy are in the minority. The only two who probably still support him are Richard and Pauline. Just don't sit next to those two.
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Post by rcb on Sept 3, 2017 15:50:47 GMT
I am way past hating McCarthy ruining our team's chances of avoiding relegation. Call me what you will, but this is not the club I signed up for in 2010. I chose then to replace my support for the old Chester City with the new model. Sadly I no longer feel this club represents my beliefs in the football that was promised. I see no transparency nowadays. I have no faith in what I feel is a useless board, a useless CEO, and a useless manager. I feel Burr got the job via the back door, and the club has deteriorated ever since. By all means keep mushrooms in the dark and feed them on shit, but I don't expect the same treatment. McCarthy is a symptom and his dismissal will not cure the malaise. I am far from happy at what I see as an extraordinary waste of the club's income since reformation either through incompetence or something more sinister. I chose to boycott attending whilst McCarthy remained, but his continued presence tells me something worse is going on. Hope I'm wrong.
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Post by billyw on Sept 3, 2017 16:26:26 GMT
I am way past hating McCarthy ruining our team's chances of avoiding relegation. Call me what you will, but this is not the club I signed up for in 2010. I chose then to replace my support for the old Chester City with the new model. Sadly I no longer feel this club represents my beliefs in the football that was promised. I see no transparency nowadays. I have no faith in what I feel is a useless board, a useless CEO, and a useless manager. I feel Burr got the job via the back door, and the club has deteriorated ever since. By all means keep mushrooms in the dark and feed them on shit, but I don't expect the same treatment. McCarthy is a symptom and his dismissal will not cure the malaise. I am far from happy at what I see as an extraordinary waste of the club's income since reformation either through incompetence or something more sinister. I chose to boycott attending whilst McCarthy remained, but his continued presence tells me something worse is going on. Hope I'm wrong. I share your frustration regarding McCarthy but I think the rest is a bit harsh. I think everyone was over the moon when Burt was appointed and no-one expected it to end in failure. The Board has made mistakes, especially giving McCarthy an extended contract despite poor results over Christmas and the start of the new year. However, to say there is a 'malaise' and something 'sinister' is I think a bit unfair on the Board, who like ourselves are true supporters and doing their best for the club without any hidden agendas.
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Post by thetheremin on Sept 3, 2017 16:36:42 GMT
I am way past hating McCarthy ruining our team's chances of avoiding relegation. Call me what you will, but this is not the club I signed up for in 2010. I chose then to replace my support for the old Chester City with the new model. Sadly I no longer feel this club represents my beliefs in the football that was promised. I see no transparency nowadays. I have no faith in what I feel is a useless board, a useless CEO, and a useless manager. I feel Burr got the job via the back door, and the club has deteriorated ever since. By all means keep mushrooms in the dark and feed them on shit, but I don't expect the same treatment. McCarthy is a symptom and his dismissal will not cure the malaise. I am far from happy at what I see as an extraordinary waste of the club's income since reformation either through incompetence or something more sinister. I chose to boycott attending whilst McCarthy remained, but his continued presence tells me something worse is going on. Hope I'm wrong. We're now all highly frustrated with what is happening on the pitch but good lord the rest of your post is bonkers. Sinister goings on? Really?
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Post by rossettred on Sept 3, 2017 16:52:25 GMT
We would appreciate it if you could keep him until we have played you - thanks.
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Post by debbiej on Sept 3, 2017 18:23:54 GMT
There are still a handful of people sat around me who will defend JM to the hilt. My fear would be that any type of visual protest would just create an Arsenal type situation, where fans are falling out in the stands. I have to say it's mainly the older generation that stick up for him - all those Senior Blues appearances seem to have reeled plenty of them in. Those who support McCarthy are in the minority. The only two who probably still support him are Richard and Pauline. Just don't sit next to those two. A bit harsh on Pauline.
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Post by rcb on Sept 3, 2017 18:35:20 GMT
I am way past hating McCarthy ruining our team's chances of avoiding relegation. Call me what you will, but this is not the club I signed up for in 2010. I chose then to replace my support for the old Chester City with the new model. Sadly I no longer feel this club represents my beliefs in the football that was promised. I see no transparency nowadays. I have no faith in what I feel is a useless board, a useless CEO, and a useless manager. I feel Burr got the job via the back door, and the club has deteriorated ever since. By all means keep mushrooms in the dark and feed them on shit, but I don't expect the same treatment. McCarthy is a symptom and his dismissal will not cure the malaise. I am far from happy at what I see as an extraordinary waste of the club's income since reformation either through incompetence or something more sinister. I chose to boycott attending whilst McCarthy remained, but his continued presence tells me something worse is going on. Hope I'm wrong. We're now all highly frustrated with what is happening on the pitch but good lord the rest of your post is bonkers. Sinister goings on? Really? I said incompetence OR something more sinister. Did Burr get the job without going through the application process? Over £100,000 in profit after first year -where did that go? "Mates" type appointments in managerial or marketing positions. Hennigan move to Motherwell for free, strangely sharing the same agent as Burr! Signing on players who never played, despite the alleged low budget. Appointing an assistant manager who doesn't come to matches. A new assistant manager on a playing contract, but is overweight and unfit. Where did Grenville go? Appoint a CEO with a disastrous track record. Lots of medical, psychological and physiological background staff over the summer, but now a manager says we haven't got any. The club now has a four year record of strange goings on which seem to be ignored or uncared about. Is it all just down to incompetence and naivety? I simply express my concerns and apparently I'm bonkers. If you think simply replacing McCarthy is a cure all then you really are deluded. Bet you thought replacing Burr was it all sorted eh, deluded one.
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Post by paulie on Sept 3, 2017 18:49:37 GMT
We're now all highly frustrated with what is happening on the pitch but good lord the rest of your post is bonkers. Sinister goings on? Really? I said incompetence OR something more sinister. Did Burr get the job without going through the application process? Over £100,000 in profit after first year -where did that go? "Mates" type appointments in managerial or marketing positions. Hennigan move to Motherwell for free, strangely sharing the same agent as Burr! Signing on players who never played, despite the alleged low budget. Appointing an assistant manager who doesn't come to matches. A new assistant manager on a playing contract, but is overweight and unfit. Where did Grenville go? Appoint a CEO with a disastrous track record. Lots of medical, psychological and physiological background staff over the summer, but now a manager says we haven't got any. The club now has a four year record of strange goings on which seem to be ignored or uncared about. Is it all just down to incompetence and naivety? I simply express my concerns and apparently I'm bonkers. If you think simply replacing McCarthy is a cure all then you really are deluded. Bet you thought replacing Burr was it all sorted eh, deluded one. I can see your point, Young, Burr and now mcarthy (mcarthy the worst of the lot) maybe we have reached as far as a fan club will allow us. A struggling conference club. Still. Mcarthy out!
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 3, 2017 18:51:21 GMT
We're now all highly frustrated with what is happening on the pitch but good lord the rest of your post is bonkers. Sinister goings on? Really? I said incompetence OR something more sinister. Did Burr get the job without going through the application process? Over £100,000 in profit after first year -where did that go? "Mates" type appointments in managerial or marketing positions. Hennigan move to Motherwell for free, strangely sharing the same agent as Burr! Signing on players who never played, despite the alleged low budget. Appointing an assistant manager who doesn't come to matches. A new assistant manager on a playing contract, but is overweight and unfit. Where did Grenville go? Appoint a CEO with a disastrous track record. Lots of medical, psychological and physiological background staff over the summer, but now a manager says we haven't got any. The club now has a four year record of strange goings on which seem to be ignored or uncared about. Is it all just down to incompetence and naivety? I simply express my concerns and apparently I'm bonkers. If you think simply replacing McCarthy is a cure all then you really are deluded. Bet you thought replacing Burr was it all sorted eh, deluded one. Well put rcb. Definitely something sinister going on. You've raised a lot of unanswered questions there. As for McCarthy's extension, surely a rolling contact would have sufficed.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Sept 3, 2017 19:11:56 GMT
Do you not think the majority of those issues stem from the board taking the decision not to involve themselves in football matters too much and allow the manager to manage within the confines of the budget he has been given? No interference.
A lot of us would say that's how it should be generally, except they do need to grow the bollocks to make tough calls at the right times too.
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Post by superman on Sept 3, 2017 19:17:50 GMT
Perhaps the root cause of our struggles in the Conference is based around the meteoric rate we got there, rather than a steady progression over a longer period. We seem to have periods where progress on the field raced ahead of development of the greater club off the field followed by the reverse. Apart from one season under Burr we have continually struggled in the Conference/National league. You feel that we are at a pivotal point where there is light at the end of the financial tunnel which might allow steady progression on the field. However we are in danger of mucking it up and it seems that a new experienced manager is urgently needed to steady the ship and start getting some positive results particularly at home. There are never any guarantees that a change in manager will result in a sustained improvement over a number of seasons. We have tried experienced and successful but at a lower level, highly experienced and regarded, and totally inexperienced. None have brought sustained progress. I wish I knew the answer, but sadly Jon McCarthy has to go, and someone else given a go. Realistically I have no optimism that whoever comes in will bring sustained upward progress over a number of years, and initially success will be seen once again as survival. Perhaps this is where we will always be as a club, with the almost inevitable result that relegation will happen one year.
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Post by thetheremin on Sept 3, 2017 19:38:20 GMT
We're now all highly frustrated with what is happening on the pitch but good lord the rest of your post is bonkers. Sinister goings on? Really? I said incompetence OR something more sinister. Did Burr get the job without going through the application process? Over £100,000 in profit after first year -where did that go? "Mates" type appointments in managerial or marketing positions. Hennigan move to Motherwell for free, strangely sharing the same agent as Burr! Signing on players who never played, despite the alleged low budget. Appointing an assistant manager who doesn't come to matches. A new assistant manager on a playing contract, but is overweight and unfit. Where did Grenville go? Appoint a CEO with a disastrous track record. Lots of medical, psychological and physiological background staff over the summer, but now a manager says we haven't got any. The club now has a four year record of strange goings on which seem to be ignored or uncared about. Is it all just down to incompetence and naivety? I simply express my concerns and apparently I'm bonkers. If you think simply replacing McCarthy is a cure all then you really are deluded. Bet you thought replacing Burr was it all sorted eh, deluded one. Yeah it's bonkers basically. You don't understand how the club works. Everything has been done with the best intentions. Nobody has tried to harm the club intentionally which is a bit different to 'fans' on here praying for us to be thrashed by Solihull. FFS!! And posters making up false accounts for the club and posting them as fact. How stupid can you get. You know you have a way of changing things. Do it Instead of being a bunch of people whipping each other into a stupid frenzy on here. Yes the time has come for a decision to be made about McCarthy, and IMO we have a squad more than capable of performing in this league so yeah we should expect thing to pick up once he goes.
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 3, 2017 20:17:59 GMT
I'm not sure that this squad is as good as everyone is claiming for it. I think Mahon and Chappell should have been released at the end of last season. Our back four are a downgrade on last season as Hunt and Vassell were better than Halls and LRT have shown so far. McCombe has replaced Sam Hughes/Hudson and has no pace. I've yet to see Turnbull justify a 2-year contract although I will give him a chance and Shaw (10 goals last season) needs to be playing every game. We have yet to see which injury-free two up front are going to replace Alabi's goals. Finally this bonkers idea of having all 11 players back for corners was proved nonsense when Sutton scored after 5 minutes with all the players back.
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Post by banksy on Sept 3, 2017 22:14:50 GMT
A lot is made of the 2 year extension to the original contract. It's worth remembering for balance alone that we were doing well when discussions would have started, and also the fact remains that we went another 6 games unbeaten I think after sharps left the club so I don't buy the Sharps argument on this one.
I do feel however that dependent on Tuesday nights result a lot could change. Question being though if you were looking to bring an experienced manager in, I'm sure that person wouldn't entertain the idea of a 1 year contract so we're going to have to look at either a manager with no experience willing to take up a 1 year deal in their first role in the hot seat, or pay out for that 2 year deal with an experienced manager. Of course I'm sure there would be a clause inserted in to the contact that if the manager failed to keep the club up then he could walk away or the club could curtail the contract. But put simply can the club afford to pay for a decent manager to come in should a parting of the ways happen with JM?
I recall the Youngy situation quite well with fans clamouring for his head, and decisions taken in January which were the culmination of talks from around Christmas so it isn't an overnight thing that's for sure.
Tuesday is pivotal in my view.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Sept 3, 2017 22:28:36 GMT
Good points. You would of thought that the minimum target from these two games against dubs in the bottom 4 was 4 points? Agreed it could be pivotal. MM has said if something needs to happen then we can do it from a financial perspective. What hasn't been discussed which you correctly ask is can we afford to pay for another manager. I wonder if anyone can come on here to clarify/shed some light on this?
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Post by rcb on Sept 3, 2017 22:33:55 GMT
I said incompetence OR something more sinister. Did Burr get the job without going through the application process? Over £100,000 in profit after first year -where did that go? "Mates" type appointments in managerial or marketing positions. Hennigan move to Motherwell for free, strangely sharing the same agent as Burr! Signing on players who never played, despite the alleged low budget. Appointing an assistant manager who doesn't come to matches. A new assistant manager on a playing contract, but is overweight and unfit. Where did Grenville go? Appoint a CEO with a disastrous track record. Lots of medical, psychological and physiological background staff over the summer, but now a manager says we haven't got any. The club now has a four year record of strange goings on which seem to be ignored or uncared about. Is it all just down to incompetence and naivety? I simply express my concerns and apparently I'm bonkers. If you think simply replacing McCarthy is a cure all then you really are deluded. Bet you thought replacing Burr was it all sorted eh, deluded one. Yeah it's bonkers basically. You don't understand how the club works. Everything has been done with the best intentions. Nobody has tried to harm the club intentionally which is a bit different to 'fans' on here praying for us to be thrashed by Solihull. FFS!! And posters making up false accounts for the club and posting them as fact. How stupid can you get. You know you have a way of changing things. Do it Instead of being a bunch of people whipping each other into a stupid frenzy on here. Yes the time has come for a decision to be made about McCarthy, and IMO we have a squad more than capable of performing in this league so yeah we should expect thing to pick up once he goes. There you go then, and how could I know how the club works with all the secrecy and non communication. You speak like an expert, probably self appointed! What I do know is that the club isn't working! I note you have completely ignored all the unanswered questions. Interesting point you make about false accounting. By the way, how the hell can you claim everything has been done with the best of intentions when we don't know the bloody intentions, and that's part of the problem.
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Post by everhopeful on Sept 4, 2017 0:27:48 GMT
Was thinking that myself. That way the club still get our money but we make our voices heard. This is the sort of thing why I raised the subject of having an ISA again - an independent supporters group distanced from the club. Could argue that fans can just do these sorts of protests themselves but organisation and "strength in numbers" helps. There are still a handful of people sat around me who will defend JM to the hilt. My fear would be that any type of visual protest would just create an Arsenal type situation, where fans are falling out in the stands. I have to say it's mainly the older generation that stick up for him - all those Senior Blues appearances seem to have reeled plenty of them in. Don't include all the "oldies" - my first game was 1957. I've seen some poor teams but at least they used to try! I'm gone now until we get some proper management. And I. too, would like to know the whole truth about Grenville's departure. He would bleed blue if you cut him, Chester through and through. Did so much to get us back as a football club.
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