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Post by poolepirate on Sept 23, 2017 9:30:08 GMT
perhaps i missed it in the press but anyone know the length of contract the new manager was given?
i hope after the mistakes with the previous 2 managers the answer is till end of season that would make sense and if he is a success extend it but only for another 12 months we cannot afford the risk of longer contracts with a few exceptions we dont do it for the players.
with the reported high interest in the managers job and quality of those who applied it seems chester manager job is sort after so if MB is head hunted due to his success here(i can hope lol ) we can then look again for a quality manager
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Post by Matt on Sept 23, 2017 9:33:09 GMT
Despite being fan owned and transparency should be 100%, this has been remained "Undisclosed" It's probably be a 1 year rolling with him signing a 10 year contract after winning 5 games in a row.  |
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 23, 2017 9:35:45 GMT
perhaps i missed it in the press but anyone know the length of contract the new manager was given? i hope after the mistakes with the previous 2 managers the answer is till end of season that would make sense and if he is a success extend it but only for another 12 months we cannot afford the risk of longer contracts with a few exceptions we dont do it for the players. with the reported high interest in the managers job and quality of those who applied it seems chester manager job is sort after so if MB is head hunted due to his success here(i can hope lol ) we can then look again for a quality manager It was said it will remain confidential at the moment as they are still sorting out a few parts of the contract. |
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Post by happyclapper on Sept 23, 2017 9:57:39 GMT
perhaps i missed it in the press but anyone know the length of contract the new manager was given? i hope after the mistakes with the previous 2 managers the answer is till end of season that would make sense and if he is a success extend it but only for another 12 months we cannot afford the risk of longer contracts with a few exceptions we dont do it for the players. with the reported high interest in the managers job and quality of those who applied it seems chester manager job is sort after so if MB is head hunted due to his success here(i can hope lol ) we can then look again for a quality manager It was said it will remain confidential at the moment as they are still sorting out a few parts of the contract. So the contract hasn't been signed then? if they are still sorting some details out I can't see how he could have signed it??? |
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 23, 2017 10:24:00 GMT
It was said it will remain confidential at the moment as they are still sorting out a few parts of the contract. So the contract hasn't been signed then? if they are still sorting some details out I can't see how he could have signed it??? Don’t shoot the messenger |
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Post by happyclapper on Sept 23, 2017 11:36:46 GMT
So the contract hasn't been signed then? if they are still sorting some details out I can't see how he could have signed it??? Don’t shoot the messenger Not shooting the messenger mate, just find that a bit odd and slightly concerning |
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Post by billyw on Sept 23, 2017 11:40:13 GMT
It was said it will remain confidential at the moment as they are still sorting out a few parts of the contract. So the contract hasn't been signed then? if they are still sorting some details out I can't see how he could have signed it??? Cue allegation of incompetence. |
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Post by happyclapper on Sept 23, 2017 11:46:57 GMT
So the contract hasn't been signed then? if they are still sorting some details out I can't see how he could have signed it??? Cue allegation of incompetence. Not sure about incompetence, after all this could just be heresay coming from dmcnally (no disrespect dm). What I do wonder is if Bignot has not actually signed a contract is whether he will be allowed to take his position in the dugout today. I would have thought you have to be an employee of the club to be in the dugout? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2017 11:53:26 GMT
Just a thought!
I reckon it's a very slim chance but what would happen if the FA came sniffing around given the Sampson saga and MB's record with Birmingham Ladies?
I doubt very much it would happen but you never know. If he did jump ship, the FA would be in the frame for serious compo providing, of course, we have him under some sort of contract.
I really don't want to lose what looks like a very good appointment before he's even started!
Like I said, highly unlikely but stranger things have happened
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 23, 2017 12:19:19 GMT
Cue allegation of incompetence. Not sure about incompetence, after all this could just be heresay coming from dmcnally (no disrespect dm). What I do wonder is if Bignot has not actually signed a contract is whether he will be allowed to take his position in the dugout today. I would have thought you have to be an employee of the club to be in the dugout? I’m quoting what was said in the press conference mate not saying it’s what I’ve heard. It’s been said publicly. |
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Post by billyw on Sept 23, 2017 12:21:19 GMT
Just a thought! I reckon it's a very slim chance but what would happen if the FA came sniffing around given the Sampson saga and MB's record with Birmingham Ladies? I doubt very much it would happen but you never know. If he did jump ship, the FA would be in the frame for serious compo providing, of course, we have him under some sort of contract. I really don't want to lose what looks like a very good appointment before he's even started! Like I said, highly unlikely but stranger things have happened Could get a nice bit of compo.  |
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Post by avfo on Sept 23, 2017 13:30:49 GMT
Cue allegation of incompetence. Not sure about incompetence, after all this could just be heresay coming from dmcnally (no disrespect dm). What I do wonder is if Bignot has not actually signed a contract is whether he will be allowed to take his position in the dugout today. I would have thought you have to be an employee of the club to be in the dugout? Bignot worked without a contract all the time he was at Solihull. |
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Post by sqzl on Sept 23, 2017 16:16:10 GMT
Not sure about incompetence, after all this could just be heresay coming from dmcnally (no disrespect dm). What I do wonder is if Bignot has not actually signed a contract is whether he will be allowed to take his position in the dugout today. I would have thought you have to be an employee of the club to be in the dugout? Bignot worked without a contract all the time he was at Solihull. What dm said is correct. 110%. |
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Post by happyclapper on Sept 23, 2017 16:54:32 GMT
Not sure about incompetence, after all this could just be heresay coming from dmcnally (no disrespect dm). What I do wonder is if Bignot has not actually signed a contract is whether he will be allowed to take his position in the dugout today. I would have thought you have to be an employee of the club to be in the dugout? Bignot worked without a contract all the time he was at Solihull. If he was paid by Solihull he would have been deemed an employee or he was working under a contract to provide services. Either way there would have had to been a contract in place - its a legal requirement. This could have been a written statement of employment which isn't as formal as a contract of employment but merely outlines the main points. The "contract" could allow for either partner to terminate at a weeks notice. If they didn't they would have been in breach of the insurance conditions with regard to employee's and employers liability. BUT frankly after winning today for the first time at home since December....who gives a f^^k |
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Sept 23, 2017 19:43:38 GMT
He had joined us with a view to it being a longer term project in his eyes. It's absolutely correct to suggest he worked without a contract all the time he was with moors. This I believe was mainly to do with their financial situation. If you look into it they came a long way quite quickly
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Post by Lobster on Sept 23, 2017 20:37:35 GMT
Bignot worked without a contract all the time he was at Solihull. If he was paid by Solihull he would have been deemed an employee or he was working under a contract to provide services. Either way there would have had to been a contract in place - its a legal requirement. This could have been a written statement of employment which isn't as formal as a contract of employment but merely outlines the main points. The "contract" could allow for either partner to terminate at a weeks notice. If they didn't they would have been in breach of the insurance conditions with regard to employee's and employers liability. BUT frankly after winning today for the first time at home since December....who gives a f^^k Tongue in cheek maybe, but that's the sort of attitude that's cost us in the past with McCarthy and arguably Burr as well. Contract offers for managers are serious and we can't allow one or even several results to go to our head. We need to make offers that bear in mind that things could go very right or very wrong. |
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Post by sirfred on Sept 23, 2017 20:58:28 GMT
Give him 10 year deal I'm that confident he will make a difference - proper quality is Marcus-
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Post by banksy on Sept 23, 2017 21:44:11 GMT
I wouldn't be too concerned at the lack of detail around the actual contract at present.
When Steve Burr was appointed it took a good couple of days for the agent involved to oversee the contract and have Steve then dot the I's and cross the t's and I'm sure it's pretty much the same case here too.
I would expect that an agreement in principle is in place with then the finer points being ironed out, but those unlikely to put a spoke in the works as far as his position as manager is concerned.
I'm sure the news will filter through shortly, and will more than likely expect that the contract will be up to at least the end of May 2018. Potentially even May 2019.
Any manager coming in would not agree to a deal to the end of the current season only I'm sure.
He's got off to a great start, you can't ask for any more than 3 points and a clean sheet on your first match in charge.
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Post by delamereal on Sept 23, 2017 22:01:57 GMT
I wouldn't be too concerned at the lack of detail around the actual contract at present. When Steve Burr was appointed it took a good couple of days for the agent involved to oversee the contract and have Steve then dot the I's and cross the t's and I'm sure it's pretty much the same case here too. I would expect that an agreement in principle is in place with then the finer points being ironed out, but those unlikely to put a spoke in the works as far as his position as manager is concerned. I'm sure the news will filter through shortly, and will more than likely expect that the contract will be up to at least the end of May 2018. Potentially even May 2019. Any manager coming in would not agree to a deal to the end of the current season only I'm sure. He's got off to a great start, you can't ask for any more than 3 points and a clean sheet on your first match in charge. The end of the current season is May 2018. |
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Post by trublu on Sept 23, 2017 23:25:08 GMT
After that victory today its important that we get him tied in for 2-3 years to ward off interest from other clubs. Hope the board can act quickly on this one.
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Post by billyw on Sept 24, 2017 7:03:16 GMT
After that victory today its important that we get him tied in for 2-3 years to ward off interest from other clubs. Hope the board can act quickly on this one. Let's get real. We have won one game. Ridiculous to go overboard talking about a 2-3 year contract. McCarthy won 3 of his first 4 games and look what happened. I hope the Board has learnt a lesson. |
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Post by Harry Lime on Sept 24, 2017 7:43:39 GMT
After that victory today its important that we get him tied in for 2-3 years to ward off interest from other clubs. Hope the board can act quickly on this one. Let's get real. We have won one game. Ridiculous to go overboard talking about a 2-3 year contract. McCarthy won 3 of his first 4 games and look what happened. I hope the Board has learnt a lesson. Agreed. After all the bile on here for giving JMc a 2+ year deal extension, you wouldn't expect people to be clamouring to give MB a long contract after one game. Apparently he worked on a rolling contract at Grimsby. He might be ok with a contract to the end of the season, that could be extended if/when we stay up. He will want to show what he can do after losing the Grimsby job too quickly. We want a good manager to get us where we want to be. Could be a good partnership for both sides. |
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Post by banksy on Sept 24, 2017 8:14:33 GMT
I wouldn't be too concerned at the lack of detail around the actual contract at present. When Steve Burr was appointed it took a good couple of days for the agent involved to oversee the contract and have Steve then dot the I's and cross the t's and I'm sure it's pretty much the same case here too. I would expect that an agreement in principle is in place with then the finer points being ironed out, but those unlikely to put a spoke in the works as far as his position as manager is concerned. I'm sure the news will filter through shortly, and will more than likely expect that the contract will be up to at least the end of May 2018. Potentially even May 2019. Any manager coming in would not agree to a deal to the end of the current season only I'm sure. He's got off to a great start, you can't ask for any more than 3 points and a clean sheet on your first match in charge. The end of the current season is May 2018. Sorry, that's late night posting for you when dealing with man flu! Did of course mean minimum end May 2019, and even possibly to May 2020. Jeff |
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Post by trublu on Sept 24, 2017 12:17:09 GMT
Let's get real. We have won one game. Ridiculous to go overboard talking about a 2-3 year contract. McCarthy won 3 of his first 4 games and look what happened. I hope the Board has learnt a lesson. Agreed. After all the bile on here for giving JMc a 2+ year deal extension, you wouldn't expect people to be clamouring to give MB a long contract after one game. Apparently he worked on a rolling contract at Grimsby. He might be ok with a contract to the end of the season, that could be extended if/when we stay up. He will want to show what he can do after losing the Grimsby job too quickly. We want a good manager to get us where we want to be. Could be a good partnership for both sides.  Gotcha lads Great to get a win on the board yesterday. Looks like MB is going to use players a bit differently also which could hopefully bring out the best in them. LRT may have his flaws but he can do a job used properly, Dawson in a central role probably needs a few games to get comfortable there having played out of position a lot recently so more to come from him. Shaw back in the mix for playing time another good option, makes the squad look far less threadbare. It's a positive start and the future looks bright after months of doom and gloom under McCarthy. |
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