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Post by agl on Oct 8, 2017 8:24:03 GMT
OK, I'm not a a big fan. I keep hearing that he can't play the lone striker role but still think he should be able to at least hold up the ball and lay it off to a yellow shirt. It's not enough to just run around. But we know he can score (or could two seasons ago). So how do we get the best out of him? He's on a two year deal so we have to work with what we've got. What formation do you play and with what players? Barrow and Grimsby were both happy to let him go. What does that tell us? Do we just use him from the bench?
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Post by Gandalf on Oct 8, 2017 10:03:17 GMT
I think with Ross it takes him a little while to hit the ground running, we’ve seen it in his first stint with us, kept going offside and as the season went on he kept improving. Keep the faith
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Post by whopper3 on Oct 8, 2017 10:22:55 GMT
Hannah needs to be put out to grass. A real donkey.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2017 11:48:18 GMT
It's difficult because I feel that Akintunde is far better at holding the ball with back to goal, does it so well for a smaller lad, and is also better running at defenders than Hannah.
Hannah needs to be in the box, it's where he's best. His first season he had Rooney probably at his creative best for us and bigger lads like Hobson and Hattersley doing the dirty work. Hannah isn't a centre forward he's a striker. We are lacking any width or creativity in the middle to create chances, especially now with Mahon out.
At the beginning of the season I was worried for Hannah because Akintunde-Bell and Akintunde-White looked the better combinations up front. We've had some bad luck with injuries obviously but I'm still hopeful of White coming in and hitting the ground running.
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Post by tarvinblue on Oct 8, 2017 12:00:26 GMT
He needs to be dropped sooner rather than later. Really poor performance yesterday - didn't hold the ball up or run the channels. When he did run he was so slow anticipating that he was second to every ball. Akintunde would have done a much better job up there on his own. Let's hope that Harry White shows some form when he eventually returns and that MB's fitness regime can get Hannah fit and sharp as he looks nothing like the player that left us currently.
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Post by thebluecamp on Oct 8, 2017 13:19:07 GMT
It's difficult because I feel that Akintunde is far better at holding the ball with back to goal, does it so well for a smaller lad, and is also better running at defenders than Hannah. Hannah needs to be in the box, it's where he's best. His first season he had Rooney probably at his creative best for us and bigger lads like Hobson and Hattersley doing the dirty work. Hannah isn't a centre forward he's a striker. We are lacking any width or creativity in the middle to create chances, especially now with Mahon out. At the beginning of the season I was worried for Hannah because Akintunde-Bell and Akintunde-White looked the better combinations up front. We've had some bad luck with injuries obviously but I'm still hopeful of White coming in and hitting the ground running. Hope you're right, but with his injury record he will probably just hit the ground, and be out for another month !
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Oct 8, 2017 14:44:29 GMT
Hannah should be dropped and used from the bench. Yes he works hard and he runs around but unfortuantly it is sbout making the right runs into the channels and holding the ball up. He did neither. In McNaultys pocket. Incredably poor.
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Post by Hannibal on Oct 8, 2017 17:31:50 GMT
Offer him to the Goats.
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Post by wxmred on Oct 8, 2017 17:46:42 GMT
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Post by Jack on Oct 8, 2017 18:35:48 GMT
He'll come good. We're seeing a player who had a disrupted pre-season and has had a stop-start last few seasons.
I've no doubt he'll play his way into form. Talk of being finished is way off the mark.
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Post by jabber on Oct 8, 2017 18:42:45 GMT
I don't think Harry Kane would do great in our team at the mo , we need to develop a way to get the best out of all our team , going forward is hardest because ultimately goals get points ,balls whipped in from the wings is his best way and that's not happening , so until we change that I reckon we put him on the subs and try something diffetent
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Post by trublu on Oct 9, 2017 1:23:06 GMT
I do wonder if maybe a 433 is our best formation. Use Hannah as a wide forward, Bell and Akintunde could also fill the role with their pace, I tend to think Harry White as the central forward in this system gets your best players on the pitch, Mahon would hold down the other side, allowing 3 of our 4 decent central midfielders to play.
It's an adaptable formation where the one on the opposite side to play can get central and offer himself as a second striker.
I just think it makes sense to get your best players on the pitch, Mahon offers very little defending anyway, we're constantly shoehorning a central player onto the other flank and we could be offering some extra protection in front of the back 4 if James was to sit in front of them, possibly helping with the lack of pace we have centrally by blocking teams from going through there.
Even if we end up quite narrow because of it surely it's worth a try short term, could offer a bit of creative spark because you look at the strikers we have and you'd think there are goals in them on paper but we just arent scoring them.
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Post by MPW on Oct 9, 2017 6:42:11 GMT
White must have been close to being involved at Tranmere as he was joining in the warm up and looked ok.
Hannah seems to play his best with a big guy up front with him so a fully fit White might just make a the difference for us I think.
Bell can go back to Gateshead and hopefully we can bring in someone else.
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Post by Hannibal on Oct 9, 2017 7:38:38 GMT
White must have been close to being involved at Tranmere as he was joining in the warm up and looked ok. Hannah seems to play his best with a big guy up front with him so a fully fit White might just make a the difference for us I think. Bell can go back to Gateshead and hopefully we can bring in someone else. Do you think White will ever be fully fit? He was a high risk signing and we can't afford to be signing players who are always presenting sicknotes. He's already missed nearly a third of a season.
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Post by iandychesterfc on Oct 9, 2017 12:28:41 GMT
Hannah's best spell was with Hattersley - a target man so he can get on doing what he does.
He couldn't play lone striker role under Burr and still can't now, nothing has changed.
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Post by massivefloodlights on Oct 9, 2017 18:30:25 GMT
You won’t get the best out of Hannah if he can’t be arsed turning up for training. The fact that McCarthy and the board allowed such a deal with the player just to appease the fans beggars belief.
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Post by billyw on Oct 9, 2017 18:52:35 GMT
You won’t get the best out of Hannah if he can’t be arsed turning up for training. The fact that McCarthy and the board allowed such a deal with the player just to appease the fans beggars belief. That's just a load of malicious bol..cks from sad Goats.
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Post by Woody on Oct 9, 2017 20:51:01 GMT
He looked good today at training, he will come good maybe we should consider him as a sub which was quite effective against Fylde he looked quite lively.
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Post by Hannibal on Oct 9, 2017 21:00:40 GMT
He looked good today at training, he will come good maybe we should consider him as a sub which was quite effective against Fylde he looked quite lively. Who Hannah or White?
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Post by norwegianblue on Oct 9, 2017 21:06:36 GMT
Chesters striker problem isn't Hannah. We lack a fully fit striker who has height.
Omar Bogle on loan for a month to help his old mentor Marcus Bignot !
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Post by Woody on Oct 9, 2017 21:21:41 GMT
He looked good today at training, he will come good maybe we should consider him as a sub which was quite effective against Fylde he looked quite lively. Who Hannah or White? I was referring to Ross Hannah, however all strikers looked good today at training, lots of shooting drills. Coaching staff and drills looked to be very effective and organised. Team seems to have loads of togetherness at the moment and training is getting them into good shape. I have to say I'm just a supporter from Hawarden that has a spaniel dog who needs a good walk, occasionally I go and watch the lads training @ saughall
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Post by billyw on Oct 10, 2017 6:35:28 GMT
He looked good today at training, he will come good maybe we should consider him as a sub which was quite effective against Fylde he looked quite lively. That couldn't have been Hannah as according to some moronic Goats, he doesn't train on Mondays
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Post by Dodge on Oct 10, 2017 12:02:21 GMT
Hannah has been poor this season and was really poor on Saturday, but the problem was the lack of width, which meant Akintunde was having to come wide which dragged Hannah back into centre forward where McNulty had him in his pocket.
Like someone else said he took a while to get going last time and hopefully he'll come good, also have to remember how poor the whole team has been at the start of this season.
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Post by Dodge on Oct 12, 2017 8:37:52 GMT
Bored in work so just did a bit of maths to see how Hannah is comparing to the start of the 2015/16 season. Virgin behaviour I know.
2015/16 Played 14, Won 5, Drawn 4, Lost 5, Scored 15, Conceded 20, Points 19 Hannah started 9, sub 1, 826 minutes played, 3 goals. 275 minutes per goal.
2017/18 Played 14, Won 2, Drawn 6, Lost 6, Scored 12, Conceded 21, Points 12 Hannah started 6, sub 5, 718 minutes played, 3 goals. 239 minutes per goal.
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Post by Barry Butler's Chamois on Oct 12, 2017 10:25:29 GMT
Bored in work so just did a bit of maths to see how Hannah is comparing to the start of the 2015/16 season. Virgin behaviour I know. 2015/16 Played 14, Won 5, Drawn 4, Lost 5, Scored 15, Conceded 20, Points 19 Hannah started 9, sub 1, 826 minutes played, 3 goals (1 penalty). 275 minutes per goal. 2017/18 Played 14, Won 2, Drawn 6, Lost 6, Scored 12, Conceded 21, Points 12 Hannah started 6, sub 5, 718 minutes played, 2 goals. 359 minutes per goal. Hasn't he scored 3 this season as well? (Torquay, Gateshead and Maidenhead)
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Post by Dodge on Oct 12, 2017 11:40:56 GMT
Bored in work so just did a bit of maths to see how Hannah is comparing to the start of the 2015/16 season. Virgin behaviour I know. 2015/16 Played 14, Won 5, Drawn 4, Lost 5, Scored 15, Conceded 20, Points 19 Hannah started 9, sub 1, 826 minutes played, 3 goals (1 penalty). 275 minutes per goal. 2017/18 Played 14, Won 2, Drawn 6, Lost 6, Scored 12, Conceded 21, Points 12 Hannah started 6, sub 5, 718 minutes played, 2 goals. 359 minutes per goal. Hasn't he scored 3 this season as well? (Torquay, Gateshead and Maidenhead) You're right, changed it, makes it even more interesting that he's got a better goal/game ration in a worse team.
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