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Post by rcb on Nov 4, 2017 19:42:38 GMT
Unfortunately life doesn't grace us with hindsight, but if it did and McCarthy was dismissed immediately after the final match last season what might have happened?
Would we have recruited Bignot then? What of Hudson, Hunt and Durrell? Could Alabi have been persuade to stay?
Would you like Bignot to try and get any players back?
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Post by dmcnally on Nov 4, 2017 20:16:42 GMT
Would take Durrell back with open arms. He is the creative link between midfield and attack we've missed this season. Would also say Hunt but Gough seems a good addition.
Looking forward though, if Bignot keeps us up, which I am confident of, I'm excited to see what he can build in the summer, with proper contacts and a proper criteria for players. His signings have all impressed, even Andy bloody Halls is performing well. In Bignot We Believe.
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Post by Deva Chanter on Nov 4, 2017 20:19:16 GMT
Only player I would take back is Alabi. Hindsight is nice but all of the players mentioned above were involved in the utter dross served up in the last half of the season - in Hunt's case, the season before as well. As far as I'm concerned, our team this season is still streets ahead of last seasons and there is a reason why the recruitment was met with almost universal praise at the time. The players need to pull their fingers out and show us what they're really capable of.
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Post by rcb on Nov 4, 2017 20:22:53 GMT
Would take Durrell back with open arms. He is the creative link between midfield and attack we've missed this season. Would also say Hunt but Gough seems a good addition. Looking forward though, if Bignot keeps us up, which I am confident of, I'm excited to see what he can build in the summer, with proper contacts and a proper criteria for players. His signings have all impressed, even Andy bloody Halls is performing well. In Bignot We Believe. Can't fault your enthusiasm. Be great if the club could give you 100 free tickets to distribute to your college mates, in a young ambassador type role. Incidentally, Hudson or McCombe? |
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Post by chesterfc1972 on Nov 4, 2017 21:29:28 GMT
Hunt he had the bottle to say it how it is in the changing room and an ex Manager did not like it
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Post by Hannibal on Nov 5, 2017 4:34:31 GMT
I think Hunt and Durrell should still be here. Hudson and McCombe no.
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Post by trev on Nov 5, 2017 11:59:19 GMT
Unfortunately life doesn't grace us with hindsight, but if it did and McCarthy was dismissed immediately after the final match last season what might have happened? Would we have recruited Bignot then? What of Hudson, Hunt and Durrell? Could Alabi have been persuade to stay? Would you like Bignot to try and get any players back? For some of us hindsight is not an issue ! What happened this season was fully predicted in March /April. A manager wholly out if his depth who despite abysmal results and performances was allowed to say on for unknown reasons, other than to save the embarrassment of those who had endorsed McCarthy with a lengthy contract extension. Despite a poor track record in recruiting players he then was allowed to spend the budget on unwise recruitment and player retention - although on paper I admit at the time it looked surprisingly ok, but questions were raised as regards how injury prone some players were, their ages and why the squad was yet again so unbalanced. If McCarthy had gone in April , Bignot was available and on the evidence of the recent selection process he would have been appointed then . Hudson (Bambi on Ice) was very poor and would have been released, as would Chappell, Joyce and Davies. Although Hunt and Durrell had been poor for months, with the right attitude, they offered some pace, width and creativity which is desperately needed although now being gradually fixed. I wasn’t worried when Alabi left, but you can see the problems we have had upfront without a strong holding type player (although hopeless in the air). Disappointingly, Alabi clearly offers more than White and Bell and to a certain extent Hannah so far. Interestingly, when you see Bignots recruitment so far, how many of McCarthy’s expensive summer signings would have been here ? Not many I suspect, and this is wholly self- inflicted and very damaging position should so obviously have been avoided.
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Post by southernblue on Nov 5, 2017 13:09:56 GMT
I would take Durrell back in a heartbeat, he would unlock the back line with his creative vision again and again. Huge loss for us.
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Nov 5, 2017 13:43:15 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Nov 5, 2017 13:43:15 GMT
Would mostly agree with Trev. Hindsight is thinking something is a good idea at the time only to realise it wasn't later. I think most of us were surprised McCarthy wasn't released of his duties after the Boreham Wood game. I think a degree of blind faith in McCarthy was displayed by the board, whether for personal or financial reasons. Pretty sure I'm on record on here as saying I thought we'd start slowly, McCarthy would be gone by Christmas and a new man would be playing catch up, not that I'm glad to be right!
Still, I'm fairly hopeful that we won't be ruing it at the end of the season. I think we have the right manager and are cobbling together a decent side.
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Nov 5, 2017 14:12:27 GMT
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Post by southernblue on Nov 5, 2017 14:12:27 GMT
Would mostly agree with Trev. Hindsight is thinking something is a good idea at the time only to realise it wasn't later. I think most of us were surprised McCarthy wasn't released of his duties after the Boreham Wood game. I think a degree of blind faith in McCarthy was displayed by the board, whether for personal or financial reasons. Pretty sure I'm on record on here as saying I thought we'd start slowly, McCarthy would be gone by Christmas and a new man would be playing catch up, not that I'm glad to be right! Still, I'm fairly hopefully that we won't be ruing it at the end of the season. I think we have the right manager and are cobbling together a decent side. At least we did it well before Christmas, we have plenty of time to turn this round. That being said, the players have to be fighting for every point game in game out. |
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Nov 5, 2017 17:16:44 GMT
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Post by sqzl on Nov 5, 2017 17:16:44 GMT
If have kept Hunt for sure. Alabi on loan now at Dover who are performing well this season despite losing some key players. I'd probably have Durrell back and get rid of one of the 5 strikers. Although I'd actually have any half decent number 10 over a fifth striker because we do miss that sort of player. I didn't really think much of Rooney or Durrell, but you do miss these sort of players when they go, miss their goals that's for sure.
For me one of the biggest losses was McConville a few seasons back, a good footballer who could create and score goals, not replaced him since.
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Post by Jack on Nov 5, 2017 20:32:24 GMT
I think we look back on Durrell a bit sentimentally - he was anonoymous from December, not that he was the only one.
I said last season that he was actually a player who'd be more effective playing for a Tranmere or FGR. Teams who have lots of the ball around the opposition box, that's where ED came alive. For us, he was having to track back and follow the opposition winger and looked lost more often than not.
He'd fit right in under MB, but I can see why McCarthy got rid.
Hunt was a strange decision, but I must say I've been impressed hugely by Jordan Gough since he arrived.
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Nov 5, 2017 22:22:44 GMT
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Post by jb on Nov 5, 2017 22:22:44 GMT
Durrell looked like a spectator we’d given a game to in a “play for your club” raffle for several months. Out of shape and no idea on set pieces. Never scored a free kick and his corners were even worse. It’s very rare I agree with Wrexham fans but the ones I know said he was crap and I concur!
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Post by dmcnally on Nov 5, 2017 22:34:32 GMT
Durrell looked like a spectator we’d given a game to in a “play for your club” raffle for several months. Out of shape and no idea on set pieces. Never scored a free kick and his corners were even worse. It’s very rare I agree with Wrexham fans but the ones I know said he was crap and I concur! He’s been superb for Macclesfield this season. |
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Post by oldboneze on Nov 6, 2017 7:35:40 GMT
If have kept Hunt for sure. Alabi on loan now at Dover who are performing well this season despite losing some key players. I'd probably have Durrell back and get rid of one of the 5 strikers. Although I'd actually have any half decent number 10 over a fifth striker because we do miss that sort of player. I didn't really think much of Rooney or Durrell, but you do miss these sort of players when they go, miss their goals that's for sure. For me one of the biggest losses was McConville a few seasons back, a good footballer who could create and score goals, not replaced him since.At the time, most were saying 'good riddance'. It's only with hindsight that many of us agree with you. |
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Post by Hannibal on Nov 6, 2017 9:12:38 GMT
He seemed a bit lightweight and him and Rooney never really fitted together, but I'll always remember those 2 goals he scored when we beat Braintree 3-1 about 4 seasons ago. I think Iwelumo scored his only Chester goal in that match too.
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Post by rhodri on Nov 6, 2017 12:40:10 GMT
He seemed a bit lightweight and him and Rooney never really fitted together, but I'll always remember those 2 goals he scored when we beat Braintree 3-1 about 4 seasons ago. I think Iwelumo scored his only Chester goal in that match too. He did tend to pop up from nowhere and score, but in terms of his general teamplay, he and Rooney seemed to both want to play in the number 10 role so struggled to play together, plus Rooney seemed to be the more favourable option as he got more assists in and seemed to have a better work rate. Saying that, McConville's performance at the Stockport away game in the cup was one of my favourite Chester performances by a player, perfectly played the villain against his old club and fans and was inspiring that day |
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Post by rhodri on Nov 6, 2017 12:43:44 GMT
Durrell looked like a spectator we’d given a game to in a “play for your club” raffle for several months. Out of shape and no idea on set pieces. Never scored a free kick and his corners were even worse. It’s very rare I agree with Wrexham fans but the ones I know said he was crap and I concur! I agree. He scored some quality goals, no denying that, but he did look unfit as a whole and too often tried playing quick passes (Rooney style) which went straight out of play. I think Dawson is more controlled in doing that this season. May be controversial, but take away his long range goals in the first few games, and I'm not actually sure what he achieved for us |
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Post by Hannibal on Nov 6, 2017 12:53:57 GMT
Durrell looked like a spectator we’d given a game to in a “play for your club” raffle for several months. Out of shape and no idea on set pieces. Never scored a free kick and his corners were even worse. It’s very rare I agree with Wrexham fans but the ones I know said he was crap and I concur! I agree. He scored some quality goals, no denying that, but he did look unfit as a whole and too often tried playing quick passes (Rooney style) which went straight out of play. I think Dawson is more controlled in doing that this season. May be controversial, but take away his long range goals in the first few games, and I'm not actually sure what he achieved for us I have not been to a game since the Woking home defeat. I cannot believe that Dawson is still getting a game. He was dreadful up to that game despite scoring 3 goals. Does he ever find a Chester player with a pass. |
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Post by Si on Nov 6, 2017 13:06:59 GMT
I agree. He scored some quality goals, no denying that, but he did look unfit as a whole and too often tried playing quick passes (Rooney style) which went straight out of play. I think Dawson is more controlled in doing that this season. May be controversial, but take away his long range goals in the first few games, and I'm not actually sure what he achieved for us I have not been to a game since the Woking home defeat. I cannot believe that Dawson is still getting a game. He was dreadful up to that game despite scoring 3 goals. Does he ever find a Chester player with a pass. Looks like Dawson is the new Rooney/McConville in that he splits opinion. In the highlights of the Eastleigh game its pretty obvious that anything creative came through him, whether this be via a quality delivery from a set piece or a decent pass. His set piece delivery is the best I've seen for us in many years. Yes he does give the ball away on occasions but that's why he plays at this level. If everything he did came off he'd be playing much higher up the pyramid. He's brave enough to always make himself available for the ball and seems to have thrived with the extra responsibility given to him by Bignot to take the ball off the defence and begin a move. He also gets through a decent amount of dirty work, wins his fair share of headers and doesn't shirk a tackle. Without him you'd take away what little creativity this team has, especially in the absence of Mahon. He's not the type of guy to take men on but he has the vision to play passes that others wouldn't see. Bearing in mind that this is his first full season at this level then I'd say he's doing pretty well, and I'm sure the goals/assists statistics would back that up. He's not perfect, but IMO he's a vital part of this team and I'd rather see him in there and having the courage to make something happen rather than jobbers like Joyce or Turnbull. I'd say it looks like he gives the ball away because he probably has the most attempted passes of any of our players - pretty much everything goes through him so a player at this level will inevitably mess up sometimes. |
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Post by bb93 on Nov 6, 2017 15:01:34 GMT
I agree. He scored some quality goals, no denying that, but he did look unfit as a whole and too often tried playing quick passes (Rooney style) which went straight out of play. I think Dawson is more controlled in doing that this season. May be controversial, but take away his long range goals in the first few games, and I'm not actually sure what he achieved for us I have not been to a game since the Woking home defeat. I cannot believe that Dawson is still getting a game. He was dreadful up to that game despite scoring 3 goals. Does he ever find a Chester player with a pass. The people who slate players like Durrell, Rooney and Dawson. How do want us to score? If you've only got players capable of playing a 5 yard pass, or launching it out of play how can you create anything. All teams need at least one player who can get the ball down and at least try and play some defence unlocking passes. |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 6, 2017 17:34:58 GMT
One of the first names on the team sheet for me - oozes class.
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Post by Hannibal on Nov 6, 2017 20:10:28 GMT
I have not been to a game since the Woking home defeat. I cannot believe that Dawson is still getting a game. He was dreadful up to that game despite scoring 3 goals. Does he ever find a Chester player with a pass. The people who slate players like Durrell, Rooney and Dawson. How do want us to score? If you've only got players capable of playing a 5 yard pass, or launching it out of play how can you create anything. All teams need at least one player who can get the ball down and at least try and play some defence unlocking passes. In the games I've seen this season his set piece delivery has amounted to catching practice for the opposition goalkeeper. Don't get me wrong ... if he's turned it round nobody will be more pleased than me. I'll be watching him closely on Wednesday. Here's hoping he can become a legend by scoring against the Goats. |
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Post by sqzl on Nov 6, 2017 22:41:17 GMT
Don't really think Dawson can be compared to McConville in terms of footballing ability if I'm honest. I think he needs to find consistency in his performances because he's hot then cold. He can be a good player you can see from watching him that he's a decent footballer. He was sh*te on the right under JMc, playing out of position. I don't think he's the same player as Rooney/Durrell so shouldn't really be compared to them either. We do have a player but it's finding that level every match and cutting out the wanting too much time on the ball, but at the end of the day, he's playing conference for a reason he's bound to have some weakness.
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