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Post by Si on Nov 19, 2017 11:53:21 GMT
Posts removed in the interests of keeping this thread on topic. Thanks. But not removed due to the offensive natureof the original comment? Thats pretty poor Si. Yes, that too. Either way, the posts are removed so lets just keep on topic. Thanks.
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Post by lincolnexile on Nov 19, 2017 12:09:37 GMT
It's not on really to expect fans to just stand there and get drenched, is it? A lot of football fans are elderly and to make them stand about in wet clothing for two hours on a cold November afternoon, then face a long journey back home before they can dry off, they could get quite ill from that. Does a fixture like Bromley v Chester really need to be segregated? I think if you pay to get into a match, a roof over your head isn't much to ask. Sorry but we're supposed to be battle-hardened supporters of a non league club. We went to grounds in the Evo Stik and National League North with no cover available and didn't whinge about it. This is what happens at this level. Instead of whinging about getting a bit cold and wet, man the fuck up and get on with it. I despair at the wimpy attitudes of some people To be fair there was no segregation when we were lower down which meant you could take cover if you wanted. You could also watch with a pint in your hand and received a warm welcome from people who appreciated the money brought in to their club by a big away following and didn't treat away fans like an inconvenience. Ah the good old days lol.
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Post by southernblue on Nov 19, 2017 12:21:37 GMT
It's not on really to expect fans to just stand there and get drenched, is it? A lot of football fans are elderly and to make them stand about in wet clothing for two hours on a cold November afternoon, then face a long journey back home before they can dry off, they could get quite ill from that. Does a fixture like Bromley v Chester really need to be segregated? I think if you pay to get into a match, a roof over your head isn't much to ask. I went to Bromley two years ago and the experience was appalling. Body searched on the way in, couple of mobile cubicles for toilets and a crap view. Vowed never to go back again. Too many tin pot clubs in our league. FA seem more worried about the number of seats in the main stand, rather than the general fan experience. These clubs, like Eastleigh as well, should be forced to spend money on their ground first before they go throwing cash at players. Just continues to re-enforce the idea of the league being amateur. To be fair, Eastleigh has improved a lot, they didn't have that stand when I played in goal against them, and I would have to fetch the ball from a waterlogged ditch behind the goal, Sunday league style.
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Post by southernblue on Nov 19, 2017 12:23:49 GMT
Sorry but we're supposed to be battle-hardened supporters of a non league club. We went to grounds in the Evo Stik and National League North with no cover available and didn't whinge about it. This is what happens at this level. Instead of whinging about getting a bit cold and wet, man the fuck up and get on with it. I despair at the wimpy attitudes of some people To be fair there was no segregation when we were lower down which meant you could take cover if you wanted. You could also watch with a pint in your hand and received a warm welcome from people who appreciated the money brought in to their club by a big away following and didn't treat away fans like an inconvenience. Ah the good old days lol. I really wish I had gone to more games in the early days, they were all at the other end of the country for me though as it was regionalised.
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Post by delamereal on Nov 19, 2017 12:49:54 GMT
What I've seen of him, I'm not confident with Lynch. I will give him credit as a good shot stopper or faced with a one-on-one. However, I feel he doesn't command the 6yd box and is hesitant on crosses. That in turn causes confidence problems between him and the centre halves. i think Lynch is very good at crosses and could play at a higher level maybe needs more consistency but at 22 that's still to come Only if he doesn't have to move off his line for them!
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Post by norwegianblue on Nov 19, 2017 12:55:46 GMT
What I've seen of him, I'm not confident with Lynch. I will give him credit as a good shot stopper or faced with a one-on-one. However, I feel he doesn't command the 6yd box and is hesitant on crosses. That in turn causes confidence problems between him and the centre halves. i think Lynch is very good at crosses and could play at a higher level maybe needs more consistency but at 22 that's still to come Take a look at the corner at 1.50 of the highlights. No Chester player was anywhere near it, Lynch was firmly rooted to the line. A free header and a lucky escape.
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Post by Anders on Nov 19, 2017 13:06:42 GMT
It's not on really to expect fans to just stand there and get drenched, is it? A lot of football fans are elderly and to make them stand about in wet clothing for two hours on a cold November afternoon, then face a long journey back home before they can dry off, they could get quite ill from that. Does a fixture like Bromley v Chester really need to be segregated? I think if you pay to get into a match, a roof over your head isn't much to ask. Sorry but we're supposed to be battle-hardened supporters of a non league club. We went to grounds in the Evo Stik and National League North with no cover available and didn't whinge about it. This is what happens at this level. Instead of whinging about getting a bit cold and wet, man the fuck up and get on with it. I despair at the wimpy attitudes of some people Oh come on, bit dramatic isn’t it? Not sure if you’re indirectly referring to me after previously just mentioning it amongst a load of thoughts on the game, wasn’t whingeing as it goes, actually saw the funny side of it myself. Jeez.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Nov 19, 2017 13:52:16 GMT
Anders your match report especially when I can’t make the game is most welcome and an essential part of the weekend. You do wonder with some folk. Agreed Hayes Lane is certainly nowhere on the must do list of away grounds.
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Post by Jack on Nov 19, 2017 13:52:36 GMT
It's not on really to expect fans to just stand there and get drenched, is it? A lot of football fans are elderly and to make them stand about in wet clothing for two hours on a cold November afternoon, then face a long journey back home before they can dry off, they could get quite ill from that. Does a fixture like Bromley v Chester really need to be segregated? I think if you pay to get into a match, a roof over your head isn't much to ask. Sorry but we're supposed to be battle-hardened supporters of a non league club. We went to grounds in the Evo Stik and National League North with no cover available and didn't whinge about it. This is what happens at this level. Instead of whinging about getting a bit cold and wet, man the fuck up and get on with it. I despair at the wimpy attitudes of some people Ooh, I wish we could all be as manly as you. What a tough guy!
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Post by norcoman on Nov 19, 2017 14:10:28 GMT
i think Lynch is very good at crosses and could play at a higher level maybe needs more consistency but at 22 that's still to come Take a look at the corner at 1.50 of the highlights. No Chester player was anywhere near it, Lynch was firmly rooted to the line. A free header and a lucky escape. i didn't say he comes for everything no keeper in any league does!!
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Post by Al on Nov 19, 2017 14:10:59 GMT
Sorry but we're supposed to be battle-hardened supporters of a non league club. We went to grounds in the Evo Stik and National League North with no cover available and didn't whinge about it. This is what happens at this level. Instead of whinging about getting a bit cold and wet, man the fuck up and get on with it. I despair at the wimpy attitudes of some people Oh come on, bit dramatic isn’t it? Not sure if you’re indirectly referring to me after previously just mentioning it amongst a load of thoughts on the game, wasn’t whingeing as it goes, actually saw the funny side of it myself. Jeez. It was directly in response to Lobster tbh. My point still stands. You don't go to games expecting to be warm and dry do you!? You expect to go to a Bromley in the middle of November and be bloody cold and wet.
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Post by Al on Nov 19, 2017 14:11:30 GMT
Sorry but we're supposed to be battle-hardened supporters of a non league club. We went to grounds in the Evo Stik and National League North with no cover available and didn't whinge about it. This is what happens at this level. Instead of whinging about getting a bit cold and wet, man the fuck up and get on with it. I despair at the wimpy attitudes of some people Ooh, I wish we could all be as manly as you. What a tough guy! You have to work hard to be as tough as me..
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 14:27:01 GMT
It's not on really to expect fans to just stand there and get drenched, is it? A lot of football fans are elderly and to make them stand about in wet clothing for two hours on a cold November afternoon, then face a long journey back home before they can dry off, they could get quite ill from that. Does a fixture like Bromley v Chester really need to be segregated? I think if you pay to get into a match, a roof over your head isn't much to ask. Sorry but we're supposed to be battle-hardened supporters of a non league club. We went to grounds in the Evo Stik and National League North with no cover available and didn't whinge about it. This is what happens at this level. Instead of whinging about getting a bit cold and wet, man the fuck up and get on with it. I despair at the wimpy attitudes of some people Do you have to use bad language in every post ?
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Post by norwegianblue on Nov 19, 2017 15:26:01 GMT
Take a look at the corner at 1.50 of the highlights. No Chester player was anywhere near it, Lynch was firmly rooted to the line. A free header and a lucky escape. i didn't say he comes for everything no keeper in any league does!! That's fine if you have a couple of reliable centre halves in front of you but when no-one goes up or challenges for headers in that area, it suggests that neither the keeper or defenders know who's job it is to play the ball. That's why we concede so many close range goals. I get your point that if he could do everything then he wouldn't be playing for us. And to be fair, I think a couple of goals for Man U yesterday came from free headers in and around the 6 yard box.
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Post by norcoman on Nov 19, 2017 16:00:58 GMT
i didn't say he comes for everything no keeper in any league does!! That's fine if you have a couple of reliable centre halves in front of you but when no-one goes up or challenges for headers in that area, it suggests that neither the keeper or defenders know who's job it is to play the ball. That's why we concede so many close range goals. I get your point that if he could do everything then he wouldn't be playing for us. And to be fair, I think a couple of goals for Man U yesterday came from free headers in and around the 6 yard box. its the same for all keepers if they start coming for everything there defo going to flap at a good few which creates panic also it's a fine balance I just think when Lynch goes for high balls he does well with them
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Post by norwegianblue on Nov 19, 2017 16:25:32 GMT
That's fine if you have a couple of reliable centre halves in front of you but when no-one goes up or challenges for headers in that area, it suggests that neither the keeper or defenders know who's job it is to play the ball. That's why we concede so many close range goals. I get your point that if he could do everything then he wouldn't be playing for us. And to be fair, I think a couple of goals for Man U yesterday came from free headers in and around the 6 yard box. its the same for all keepers if they start coming for everything there defo going to flap at a good few which creates panic also it's a fine balance I just think when Lynch goes for high balls he does well with them I think it's part of his game that MB should work on. New keeper Vaughan was on the bench yesterday, has Mitchell gone back to Burnley?
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Post by Lobster on Nov 19, 2017 16:55:48 GMT
Oh come on, bit dramatic isn’t it? Not sure if you’re indirectly referring to me after previously just mentioning it amongst a load of thoughts on the game, wasn’t whingeing as it goes, actually saw the funny side of it myself. Jeez. It was directly in response to Lobster tbh. My point still stands. You don't go to games expecting to be warm and dry do you!? You expect to go to a Bromley in the middle of November and be bloody cold and wet. I'm not a ground snob. I went to plenty of games in the Evo Stik, and watch West Cheshire League games when I can. I prefer it to our level, to be honest. As basic as some grounds are, at least you're free to move around them and stand/sit wherever you like. Again, it's a problem with this level being the limbo between the amateur and professional game. I don't think it's necessary to segregate fans in a fixture between two clubs with no animosity between us and where we're only taking 125 supporters, but if clubs insist on making fans go in a certain part of the ground, it should be a part with reasonable facilities and I would say a roof is not a lot to ask. Too many clubs at this level (not necessarily Bromley) plough far too much into their playing budget and neglect their facilities. The amateurishness is still there, but the friendliness and relaxed attitude isn't. You imagine Bromley to be the sort of club who would try and stop you taking a brolly in as well. It's easy to say "man up" if you're young, able-bodied etc. I can deal with it but not everyone can.
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Post by Jack on Nov 19, 2017 17:33:07 GMT
It was directly in response to Lobster tbh. My point still stands. You don't go to games expecting to be warm and dry do you!? You expect to go to a Bromley in the middle of November and be bloody cold and wet. I'm not a ground snob. I went to plenty of games in the Evo Stik, and watch West Cheshire League games when I can. I prefer it to our level, to be honest. As basic as some grounds are, at least you're free to move around them and stand/sit wherever you like. Again, it's a problem with this level being the limbo between the amateur and professional game. I don't think it's necessary to segregate fans in a fixture between two clubs with no animosity between us and where we're only taking 125 supporters, but if clubs insist on making fans go in a certain part of the ground, it should be a part with reasonable facilities and I would say a roof is not a lot to ask. Too many clubs at this level (not necessarily Bromley) plough far too much into their playing budget and neglect their facilities. The amateurishness is still there, but the friendliness and relaxed attitude isn't. You imagine Bromley to be the sort of club who would try and stop you taking a brolly in as well. It's easy to say "man up" if you're young, able-bodied etc. I can deal with it but not everyone can. Don't justify yourself to that reply, it's one of the cringest things I've ever read on here. Of course you're right. You pay £18 to get in somewhere, a roof is pretty much the bare minimum you should expect. Nobody is asking for top rate facilities, old ram-shackle grounds are part of the charm, but standing in the pissing rain for 2 hours isn't acceptable, particularly for more elderly supporters.
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Post by g1 on Nov 19, 2017 17:48:59 GMT
I went yesterday I enjoyed the result loved the effort we showed and creating of chances motm Hannah but a special mention for mccombe thought he did well coyb
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 17:58:53 GMT
I'm not a ground snob. I went to plenty of games in the Evo Stik, and watch West Cheshire League games when I can. I prefer it to our level, to be honest. As basic as some grounds are, at least you're free to move around them and stand/sit wherever you like. Again, it's a problem with this level being the limbo between the amateur and professional game. I don't think it's necessary to segregate fans in a fixture between two clubs with no animosity between us and where we're only taking 125 supporters, but if clubs insist on making fans go in a certain part of the ground, it should be a part with reasonable facilities and I would say a roof is not a lot to ask. Too many clubs at this level (not necessarily Bromley) plough far too much into their playing budget and neglect their facilities. The amateurishness is still there, but the friendliness and relaxed attitude isn't. You imagine Bromley to be the sort of club who would try and stop you taking a brolly in as well. It's easy to say "man up" if you're young, able-bodied etc. I can deal with it but not everyone can. Don't justify yourself to that reply, it's one of the cringest things I've ever read on here. Of course you're right. You pay £18 to get in somewhere, a roof is pretty much the bare minimum you should expect. Nobody is asking for top rate facilities, old ram-shackle grounds are part of the charm, but standing in the pissing rain for 2 hours isn't acceptable, particularly for more elderly supporters. One of our Elderly fans was taken ill at Alty a few seasons ago when it pi**ed down they would not open the stand on the far side for us it was open in the end due to our Stewards pleading for it to be open as young kids were there
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Post by thebluecamp on Nov 19, 2017 18:49:42 GMT
It was directly in response to Lobster tbh. My point still stands. You don't go to games expecting to be warm and dry do you!? You expect to go to a Bromley in the middle of November and be bloody cold and wet. I'm not a ground snob. I went to plenty of games in the Evo Stik, and watch West Cheshire League games when I can. I prefer it to our level, to be honest. As basic as some grounds are, at least you're free to move around them and stand/sit wherever you like. Again, it's a problem with this level being the limbo between the amateur and professional game. I don't think it's necessary to segregate fans in a fixture between two clubs with no animosity between us and where we're only taking 125 supporters, but if clubs insist on making fans go in a certain part of the ground, it should be a part with reasonable facilities and I would say a roof is not a lot to ask. Too many clubs at this level (not necessarily Bromley) plough far too much into their playing budget and neglect their facilities. The amateurishness is still there, but the friendliness and relaxed attitude isn't. You imagine Bromley to be the sort of club who would try and stop you taking a brolly in as well. It's easy to say "man up" if you're young, able-bodied etc. I can deal with it but not everyone can. Eloquently put Lobster. I am assuming that Al is in his 70's and disabled (and works extremely hard at 'manning up'). What a guy.
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Nov 19, 2017 19:14:55 GMT
The stewards were proper idiots yesterday. Jobsworth goons
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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 19, 2017 20:00:31 GMT
Well done Si too many sensitive snowflakes on here more suited to DC 1 Snowflake? What does that even mean?
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Post by Al on Nov 19, 2017 20:15:23 GMT
I'm not a ground snob. I went to plenty of games in the Evo Stik, and watch West Cheshire League games when I can. I prefer it to our level, to be honest. As basic as some grounds are, at least you're free to move around them and stand/sit wherever you like. Again, it's a problem with this level being the limbo between the amateur and professional game. I don't think it's necessary to segregate fans in a fixture between two clubs with no animosity between us and where we're only taking 125 supporters, but if clubs insist on making fans go in a certain part of the ground, it should be a part with reasonable facilities and I would say a roof is not a lot to ask. Too many clubs at this level (not necessarily Bromley) plough far too much into their playing budget and neglect their facilities. The amateurishness is still there, but the friendliness and relaxed attitude isn't. You imagine Bromley to be the sort of club who would try and stop you taking a brolly in as well. It's easy to say "man up" if you're young, able-bodied etc. I can deal with it but not everyone can. Eloquently put Lobster. I am assuming that Al is in his 70's and disabled (and works extremely hard at 'manning up'). What a guy. Couldn't be further away from the mark if you tried fella. Makes me laugh when grown men start crying over getting their hair a bit wet. I've done sportives, long commute rides into work and back, ran 10k's and done training runs in the pissing rain. Shit happens, take a bloody warm coat, and a waterproof with a hood. Don't start crying over a bit of water, it's Bromley in November, hardly going to be the bloody tropics is it x
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Post by norwegianblue on Nov 19, 2017 20:43:15 GMT
Eloquently put Lobster. I am assuming that Al is in his 70's and disabled (and works extremely hard at 'manning up'). What a guy. Couldn't be further away from the mark if you tried fella. Makes me laugh when grown men start crying over getting their hair a bit wet. I've done sportives, long commute rides into work and back, ran 10k's and done training runs in the pissing rain. Shit happens, take a bloody warm coat, and a waterproof with a hood. Don't start crying over a bit of water, it's Bromley in November, hardly going to be the bloody tropics is it x My local team Mjøndalen got beat 2-1 in the League 1 play-off semi final this afternoon. Didn't hear anyone complaining that it was -4C.
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Post by thebluecamp on Nov 19, 2017 22:35:41 GMT
Eloquently put Lobster. I am assuming that Al is in his 70's and disabled (and works extremely hard at 'manning up'). What a guy. Couldn't be further away from the mark if you tried fella. Makes me laugh when grown men start crying over getting their hair a bit wet. I've done sportives, long commute rides into work and back, ran 10k's and done training runs in the pissing rain. Shit happens, take a bloody warm coat, and a waterproof with a hood. Don't start crying over a bit of water, it's Bromley in November, hardly going to be the bloody tropics is it x Well if I couldn't be further from the mark fella, I take it that you are not 70 plus and disabled. In which case, I actually envy you for being able to lead such an active life - and for telling us about it. The point I was trying to get across to you (and obviously failing) is that not everyone is young and able bodied, and readily able to take on Arctic Bromley in November. The fact that you went to Bromley to support the blues is admirable. Unfortunately I didn't go as I hate getting my hair wet.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 19, 2017 22:44:26 GMT
He didn't go to Bromley.
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Post by thebluecamp on Nov 19, 2017 22:56:22 GMT
Oops, my mistake - shouldn't make assumptions.
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Post by bogsnorkel on Nov 20, 2017 5:43:37 GMT
Thought Bromley looked a decent team second half. They had pace down the wings and had a couple of good players off the bench who were very mobile. We do lack that agility and pace in the team and tend to slow the game a lot. Lack the options on the bench though i thought Bell gave us something extra over White. Still, good to see the team passing the ball since MB arrived. We are more entertaining to watch and are aspiring to play good football. Last time I recall us doing that was when we had the likes of mcconville Rooney Hughes and a fit Mahon. Thought Bromley were on a similar level to Aldershot and both significantly better than Eastleigh.
Saw the highlights on YouTube. They seem to miss second half chances by Ross (hit outside of the post) and Bell (good keeper save).
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Post by Lobster on Nov 20, 2017 6:53:00 GMT
Results are still a bit hit and miss, but the important thing is that it does now sound like we're competing, creating chances of our own and enjoying spells of possession. McCarthy's team used to give every single team we played so much respect. His tactic was to get us to roll into a ball like a hedgehog and hope for the best. You might sneak the odd point like that, but it won't keep you up.
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