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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 22, 2017 21:34:09 GMT
Is our community-focused club planning on doing anything for this on Saturday, especially in front of the cameras? Perhaps a question that could be posed tomorrow evening.
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Post by bing on Nov 22, 2017 21:48:47 GMT
I've said to you before, there is little point in suggesting things like this a few days before the game.
I didn't know what 'White Ribbon Day' is until I just looked it up. If you'd have contacted the club a while ago perhaps something could have been arranged.
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Post by Al on Nov 22, 2017 22:03:09 GMT
I've said to you before, there is little point in suggesting things like this a few days before the game. I didn't know what 'White Ribbon Day' is until I just looked it up. If you'd have contacted the club a while ago perhaps something could have been arranged. Disagree. This IS what we elect people for. Those people who are supposed to have ideas like this and carry them out for the betterment of our club. It's quite reasonable to ask what they're doing to entice supporters into the ground for a televised game. It surely to God makes us look a more attractive proposition also with current and future sponsors if the ground is over half full. Why does it always have to be up to those without the time to commit to come up with and implement these ideas!?
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 22, 2017 22:05:47 GMT
Indeed, I get the thought that it's OUR club and all that but if that's the attitude - "you do it" - then what's the point of an elected board and paid employees? We elect them to do it.
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Post by Al on Nov 22, 2017 22:09:38 GMT
Indeed, I get the thought that it's OUR club and all that but if that's the attitude - "you do it" - then what's the point of an elected board and paid employees? We elect them to do it. Exactly. If someone comes along and says for instance that "marketing and sales is in my blood" you would expect that person to be full of great ideas, and carry them out accordingly.. not rely on those members who elected them in the first place to do their job for them!!
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Post by Captain Duff on Nov 22, 2017 22:40:05 GMT
I've said to you before, there is little point in suggesting things like this a few days before the game. I didn't know what 'White Ribbon Day' is until I just looked it up. If you'd have contacted the club a while ago perhaps something could have been arranged. Disagree. This IS what we elect people for. Those people who are supposed to have ideas like this and carry them out for the betterment of our club. It's quite reasonable to ask what they're doing to entice supporters into the ground for a televised game. It surely to God makes us look a more attractive proposition also with current and future sponsors if the ground is over half full. Why does it always have to be up to those without the time to commit to come up with and implement these ideas!? To be fair I didn't have a clue what it was either, and had to look it up - and I work for a large trade union and have been politically active for decades and involved in countless campaigns so I wouldn't actually expect any board member to know about it and be pushing this campaign unless someone raises it with them first. We have done some good work in recent years in partnership with Chester Pride for LGBT issues, the Men United prostate cancer campaign, the pink breast cancer days and poppy/legion remembrance as well as various other local charity initiatives. The club is normally very receptive to other charity organisations doing things on match days and I would suggest that this is one of those situations, but if the white ribbon campaign or their local supporters haven't been in touch with the club to do this I can't see where the criticism of the board is even remotely justified.
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Post by bing on Nov 22, 2017 23:49:17 GMT
Honestly, I sometimes think SB would prefer to make the club look bad a few days before the game - my opinion.
The ironic thing is that he's made a couple of good suggestions recently which may have been implemented if he either contacted someone at the club or offered to help in implementing a White Ribbon day etc.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 23, 2017 6:17:46 GMT
Just highlighting the fact that when we first reformed we had themed games to mark something every week it seemed, but as we've become more "professional" we've turned into a standard jobber Conference side no different to Bromley, Dover, Guiseley etc other than the fact we elect our board.
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Post by Al on Nov 23, 2017 6:25:26 GMT
Disagree. This IS what we elect people for. Those people who are supposed to have ideas like this and carry them out for the betterment of our club. It's quite reasonable to ask what they're doing to entice supporters into the ground for a televised game. It surely to God makes us look a more attractive proposition also with current and future sponsors if the ground is over half full. Why does it always have to be up to those without the time to commit to come up with and implement these ideas!? To be fair I didn't have a clue what it was either, and had to look it up - and I work for a large trade union and have been politically active for decades and involved in countless campaigns so I wouldn't actually expect any board member to know about it and be pushing this campaign unless someone raises it with them first. We have done some good work in recent years in partnership with Chester Pride for LGBT issues, the Men United prostate cancer campaign, the pink breast cancer days and poppy/legion remembrance as well as various other local charity initiatives. The club is normally very receptive to other charity organisations doing things on match days and I would suggest that this is one of those situations, but if the white ribbon campaign or their local supporters haven't been in touch with the club to do this I can't see where the criticism of the board is even remotely justified. So why did we stop doing those themed days? What is preventing us, as a club from doing Think Pink. We have Non League Day every year as an example. Same weekend usually every season. What have we done on Non League Day? It shouldn't be up to you or I approaching the board having to do the job we elected them to do. They should be full of great innovative ideas already. I've approached the club in the past, particularly over that like and share initiative. They did it for one game last season, not done it since. Swetenhams do it instead, and it's their brand that's getting advertised free of charge amongst the online Community.
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Post by Lobster on Nov 23, 2017 7:36:07 GMT
Should the club be doing more to incentivise fixtures and respond to themes on the charity/community calendar? Yes, definitely.
Is it helpful to publicly bring up an awareness campaign many people hadn't heard of, three days before a fixture, and use the lack of action over it as ammunition against the club? Not really.
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Post by bing on Nov 23, 2017 11:42:26 GMT
The whole 'match day experience' argument does crop up again and again and maybe we ought to have a committee focused purely on this (supporting charities, legends, singers, cross bar challenges, other half time entertainment etc).
Al - I have to disagree with your comment, "Why does it always have to be up to those without the time to commit to come up with and implement these ideas!?"
SB is prolific on this site and DOES come up with some good ideas. It wouldn't take him a single second more to direct his query to the club. That's my gripe.
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Post by Al on Nov 23, 2017 11:57:07 GMT
I'm not just talking about this 'White Ribbon Day' this weekend specifically B. I'm talking about the complete lack of Marketing ideas or awareness that seems to reside within our club.
What is even more bizarre about it is that a certain CFU Board member, when standing for election - said that "Marketing is in my blood" or words to that effect. What Marketing improvements have we seen at the club during their tenure?
Name me one thing we do now as a club - marketing wise - that we didn't do a year, 2 years+ ago?
Is the manifesto basically worth nothing? Is it just an opportunity to tell the CFU Members anything to get onto the board?
That's my problem with all this. The people who put themselves up for election to the board do so because they have the time, and feel they have the ideas to take the club forward, but when it comes down to it, what are these people contributing to the growth and development of us as a football club? Where are these ideas, the fundraising initiatives, look at the Questions for the CFU Meeting Thread, the much publicised database from the back end of last season that was supposed to be up and running last April/May?
We have many ideas shared here by CFU Members and supporters who don't have the time presently to commit to volunteering or to the board. Are their ideas worth less than those who can?
It feels like as a board, that we lack direction, and the focus to achieve our goals. What do we want this football club to be? A Football League club? Currently, in my opinion, it's nothing more than a pipedream until we can start using the tools we do have far better. I.e. Engagement with Sponsors, Supporters, actually having a Marketing Strategy having a dedicated group of volunteers assigned to that, and giving them the freedom to see it through.
That's my 10pence worth on the subject anyway
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Post by bing on Nov 23, 2017 13:00:44 GMT
...and some valid points made from the heart.
I've never been on the board or even applied to go on it, but I am guessing that you present your manifesto based on your core skills - but perhaps they then get overrun with the onerous day-to-day issues of running a football club. Might be wrong, that's just my hunch.
Something like a 'match-day experience committee' would surely help alleviate some of the pressure on the board and help people put into action good ideas? Most importantly, it would improve the 'product' (I hate using that word!) for the floating fan and hopefully persuade them to become regulars.
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Post by rcb on Nov 23, 2017 13:02:52 GMT
I'm not just talking about this 'White Ribbon Day' this weekend specifically B. I'm talking about the complete lack of Marketing ideas or awareness that seems to reside within our club. What is even more bizarre about it is that a certain CFU Board member, when standing for election - said that "Marketing is in my blood" or words to that effect. What Marketing improvements have we seen at the club during their tenure? Name me one thing we do now as a club - marketing wise - that we didn't do a year, 2 years+ ago? Is the manifesto basically worth nothing? Is it just an opportunity to tell the CFU Members anything to get onto the board? That's my problem with all this. The people who put themselves up for election to the board do so because they have the time, and feel they have the ideas to take the club forward, but when it comes down to it, what are these people contributing to the growth and development of us as a football club? Where are these ideas, the fundraising initiatives, look at the Questions for the CFU Meeting Thread, the much publicised database from the back end of last season that was supposed to be up and running last April/May? We have many ideas shared here by CFU Members and supporters who don't have the time presently to commit to volunteering or to the board. Are their ideas worth less than those who can? It feels like as a board, that we lack direction, and the focus to achieve our goals. What do we want this football club to be? A Football League club? Currently, in my opinion, it's nothing more than a pipedream until we can start using the tools we do have far better. I.e. Engagement with Sponsors, Supporters, actually having a Marketing Strategy having a dedicated group of volunteers assigned to that, and giving them the freedom to see it through. That's my 10pence worth on the subject anyway Clearly expressed in regard to concerns over progress, or lack of. It’s certainly costing a lot more than three years ago, so if you’re correct that is a worry. My concern is that I don’t know what our goals are. I would love to know what the goals were when the managerial appointment occurred. New player signings are made with goals in mind, so without knowledge of these goals I cannot determine why any player has been signed.
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Post by MOC on Nov 23, 2017 13:14:18 GMT
It's Gary Talbot's 80th birthday next month. Would be nice if the club did something at one of the home games to celebrate that. I'm sure anyone who has a bit of marketing initiative could think of something.
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Post by Al on Nov 23, 2017 14:04:23 GMT
I said this before the end of last season. But the Marketing and Advertising strategies should be done as soon as that fixture list comes out. We need to adopt an aggressive approach to advertising ourselves amongst the local populace. And I'm sorry if it offends, but it feels like it's all a bit half-arsed.
We should be gearing up to the fixture release day, then planning events around it accordingly - it's basic organisation. Get the hard work and planning completed during pre-season with those responsible, that means CEO, Trust CEO, Media team, the imaginary Marketing team and then implement it accordingly. That's your Think Pink Days, earmarking your Fundraising nights, former players pitch side talking to the crowd, advertising to local schools for discounted group visits, using this Database that does/doesn't exist.
I've sent my questions (from the other thread on here) to the board anyway for tonight's meeting (email sent to Neil Bellis this morning and requested a link for the live stream) so we will see if any of them get put to the board.
I've just got a horrible feeling that having Marcus there tonight will rather deflect much needed questions about our off the field activities - or rather lack of - and be swamped with questions about training, players, what's Marcus' favourite drink etc.
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Post by poolepirate on Nov 23, 2017 16:32:59 GMT
a match day experience can always be improved i recall reading that this saturday its the schools day we have done this before i remember when we were on tv last season. things like penalty shoot outs/cross bar challenge etc at half time take no organising but adds to the experience. im sure local youth bands would play before and at half time for no money after all they will be seeing the game for nothing and who knows a few of the band may return as fans at a later match
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