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Post by devadiva on Nov 26, 2017 8:15:37 GMT
I think it’s interesting that since his recruitment Marcus has gone from clearly thinking he can keep us up, to being open about being not so sure. Articles in the Chronicle this week with him now saying we’ll be in the relegation fight until the last game show that for him, reality has bitten.
Am not saying he’s not the man for the job. But I think he’s realised now the size of the task and fragility of our team (and the finances to do anything about it) and is now trying to set our expectations.
Of course, we already knew all of this but I hope this isn’t him beginning to have doubts/second thoughts about whether he can pull off survival in this league. That’s the last thing we need.
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Post by g1 on Nov 26, 2017 8:47:46 GMT
I will give him a chance but I think the last 2 games he's proved a little out of his depth has full time training made it better no he goes on about fitness 12 players out injured time will tell with bignot but not for me
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Post by billyw on Nov 26, 2017 8:51:37 GMT
I think it’s interesting that since his recruitment Marcus has gone from clearly thinking he can keep us up, to being open about being not so sure. Articles in the Chronicle this week with him now saying we’ll be in the relegation fight until the last game show that for him, reality has bitten. Am not saying he’s not the man for the job. But I think he’s realised now the size of the task and fragility of our team (and the finances to do anything about it) and is now trying to set our expectations. Of course, we already knew all of this but I hope this isn’t him beginning to have doubts/second thoughts about whether he can pull off survival in this league. That’s the last thing we need. Agreed. While we, as fans, may feel we are nailed on for Conference North next season it's disturbing to hear the manager being so negative which will inevitably rub off onto the players. |
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Post by Harry Lime on Nov 26, 2017 9:13:04 GMT
I think it’s interesting that since his recruitment Marcus has gone from clearly thinking he can keep us up, to being open about being not so sure. Articles in the Chronicle this week with him now saying we’ll be in the relegation fight until the last game show that for him, reality has bitten. Am not saying he’s not the man for the job. But I think he’s realised now the size of the task and fragility of our team (and the finances to do anything about it) and is now trying to set our expectations. Of course, we already knew all of this but I hope this isn’t him beginning to have doubts/second thoughts about whether he can pull off survival in this league. That’s the last thing we need. Agreed. While we, as fans, may feel we are nailed on for Conference North next season it's disturbing to hear the manager being so negative which will inevitably rub off onto the players. I got the feeling he was just being realistic, but also buying himself time. He asked what would a success this season, he got the obvious response. Staying up. That sort of gives him a remit of achievement levels. Maybe he trying to take pressure off the players (and himself) by giving them the rest of the season to get out of the bottom four. Each point gained is a step towards that. etc etc |
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Post by ivawhopper on Nov 26, 2017 13:23:17 GMT
Realism vs optimism is an interesting point. I still think we will be safe just, but it’s definitely a case of rancid generals at the moment, make no mistake.
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Nov 26, 2017 13:43:35 GMT
Although he got it wrong
against Orient midweek 2nd half, nobody can blame him for the mess we remain in. Anybody can see what a total joke these players are.
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Post by whopper3 on Nov 26, 2017 13:52:48 GMT
8/9 of these players are Bignots signings. All crap.
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Post by Hannibal on Nov 26, 2017 14:08:25 GMT
Realism vs optimism is an interesting point. I still think we will be safe just, but it’s definitely a case of rancid generals at the moment, make no mistake. Not a chance I'll afraid while we're shipping goals at the rate we are and scoring less than one a game. |
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Nov 26, 2017 14:28:15 GMT
As we know I am s big supporter of MB and remain hopeful and perhaps deluded in that we can still stay up this season. The second half yesterday was shameful and brought that afternoon at Kidderminster back to the forefront of ones mind.
I know he’s inherited what he has and there is plenty not up to the job etc.
The two away trips to London especially the orient hame travelling on the day and the extended journey home didn’t help agreed. Sleep patterns out of sink and just Friday to prepare for the Dagenham game. I accept all of this but to say the reason for the second half display was due to
Being mentally and physically tired well come on!! What do we all think.
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Post by MMc on Nov 26, 2017 14:44:09 GMT
8/9 of these players are Bignots signings. All crap. The goalkeeper and defence were awful yesterday. Of the 5, 4 of them were not signed by Bignot. Hall-Johnson is a great player for us, had Andy Halls not played a hospital ball in the Derby, he would be in there. Only 2 of his signings started yesterday.... |
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Post by whopper3 on Nov 26, 2017 15:18:07 GMT
Bottom line Bignot has brought in 8/9 of his own players. All as bad or worse than McCarthys players.
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Post by MMc on Nov 26, 2017 15:24:00 GMT
Bottom line Bignot has brought in 8/9 of his own players. All as bad or worse than McCarthys players. So do you honestly believe that Halls is a better right back than Hall-Johnson? That Kingsley James is a better right winger than Rainey? That White and Bell are better than Archer? I think Bignot has done well to get rid of the likes of Chapell, Davies, Shearon etc... Or would you rather we played them like McCarthy was a few weeks ago? You can add Joyce to that list too. |
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Post by kyle on Nov 26, 2017 15:25:24 GMT
8/9 of these players are Bignots signings. All crap. Do you ever say anything that make sense or has any relationship with reality? 9 of the starting 11 were here before Bignot. Who do you think he is going to sign mid season with no money? Messi and Ronaldo? |
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Post by Lobster on Nov 26, 2017 16:01:03 GMT
As we know I am s big supporter of MB and remain hopeful and perhaps deluded in that we can still stay up this season. The second half yesterday was shameful and brought that afternoon at Kidderminster back to the forefront of ones mind. I know he’s inherited what he has and there is plenty not up to the job etc. The two away trips to London especially the orient hame travelling on the day and the extended journey home didn’t help agreed. Sleep patterns out of sink and just Friday to prepare for the Dagenham game. I accept all of this but to say the reason for the second half display was due to Being mentally and physically tired well come on!! What do we all think. Although it's not an excuse, I think he is probably right. We did look mentally and physically tired in the second half. After a big defeat like that, it is hard for a manager to come out and say anything convincing. The difference between Bignot and McCarthy is that Bignot identifies problems and tries to rectify them, whereas McCarthy made excuses and used anything he could think of to justify poor performances. Bignot also said the players had "let themselves down" in the second half, McCarthy would never have used a term like that. |
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Post by whopper3 on Nov 26, 2017 16:15:45 GMT
8/9 of these players are Bignots signings. All crap. Do you ever say anything that make sense or has any relationship with reality? 9 of the starting 11 were here before Bignot. Who do you think he is going to sign mid season with no money? Messi and Ronaldo? we are not talking about yesterdays starting line up. We are talking about the number and quality of players Bignot has signed. The figure is 8/9 and they are all crap. I have seen better players in the League Wales. |
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Post by whopper3 on Nov 26, 2017 16:17:39 GMT
kyle
Are you one of the deluded nutters still backing Bignot ? You are in a minority now son.
Most supporters have seen through him.
As far as Maguire is concerned I don't know how he sleeps at night getting his 50K a year to kill our club. Utter disgrace.
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Post by whopper3 on Nov 26, 2017 16:19:32 GMT
"Do you ever say anything that make sense or has any relationship with reality?"
yes I do.
The reality is Bignot is another failure after McCarthy and he should never have got the job.
This is reality.
I tell you what else is reality should I. Bignot have no fear will take us down when it didn't need to happen if we had recruited a proper football manager.
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Post by kyle on Nov 26, 2017 16:21:43 GMT
At the very least Archer, Hall-Johnson and Gough are better than what we had
Who should we have signed then? Name one player who is better, available and affordable
I really cannot understand your aggressive dislike of MB. Is he a superstar genius manager, no. That us why he is managing a low budget non league team. Has he identified problems and made steps to address them, yes
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Post by kyle on Nov 26, 2017 16:29:34 GMT
kyle Are you one of the deluded nutters still backing Bignot ? You are in a minority now son. Most supporters have seen through him. As far as Maguire is concerned I don't know how he sleeps at night getting his 50K a year to kill our club. Utter disgrace. Why do you have to try to insult everyone who disagrees with you? It's very childish. On that point please don't refer to me as "son". Its condescending and you have no idea if you are older than me My point is MB is/has improved the team. If we go down he is, at worst partially responsible. I really don't know what you expect any manager to do in the situation he started with. Where do you think 11 brilliant, free, low wage players would come from? I'm not in the "Bignot is brilliant" brigade like some, but he has got a near impossible task. Suggesting sacking him, costing more money that we don't have, is farcical |
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Post by whopper3 on Nov 26, 2017 16:31:27 GMT
Archer, Hall-Johnson and Gough are not better than what we used to have.
I watch league of Wales games regularly and there is plenty of good talent out there.
I don't dislike Maguire personally. He is simply not up to the task of CEO.
The main problem is having him at the helm.
With our budget we should be mid table minimum.
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Post by whopper3 on Nov 26, 2017 16:34:28 GMT
"Why do you have to try to insult everyone who disagrees with you? It's very childish"
I get loads of abuse on here for stating my opinion. You should see some of the personal messages I get. I often get sworn at. I was threatened on here some months ago with violence which I reported to the Police. They issued a caution to the individual concerned. I don't see you having a go at these people who swear and threaten me regularly ?
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Post by whopper3 on Nov 26, 2017 16:36:19 GMT
"My point is MB is/has improved the team"
It is statements like that which are quite frankly hilarious. What games have you been watching ? Are you sure it was Chester games ?
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Post by whopper3 on Nov 26, 2017 16:37:42 GMT
"Suggesting sacking him, costing more money that we don't have, is farcical"
Bignot should never have got the job in the first place but when you have Maguire making key decisions at the club what do you expect ?
Maguire needs to be help accountable.
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Post by whopper3 on Nov 26, 2017 16:52:30 GMT
In any other industry Maguire would have had the sack by now.
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Post by kyle on Nov 26, 2017 16:53:17 GMT
"My point is MB is/has improved the team" It is statements like that which are quite frankly hilarious. What games have you been watching ? Are you sure it was Chester games ? Let me this straight, you think we'd have played better and got more points with McCarthy? Wow that is a strange one even for you. We are definitely better, and have a higher chance of staying up now than with McCarthy. Could we have done better? Of course. Could another manager have done better? Possibly, but I doubt by much. Now can I answer some of your other ramblings. Justifying insulting others because people insult you - That is pathetic and again childish. Notice I haven't mentioned Maguire but you brought him up twice. Weird way to try to justify Bignot not being good enough. Seems like you are saying whoever is appointed by Maguire must be useless. Should Maguire be held accountable? Yes I agree with you, the position we are in now is 95% due to keeping McCarthy after last season We should be midtable with our budget - yes, but Bignot didn't waste the budget so that adds nothing to your argument The 3 I mentioned are not an improvement? So you'd rather have Halls, lrt and bell? I doubt anyone would agree with that |
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Post by whopper3 on Nov 26, 2017 16:58:14 GMT
McCarthy was as bad as Bignot. I called for McCarthy go at the end of last season and got loads of abuse on here.
We are not better with Bignot.
We have no chance of staying up with Bignot in charge. Did you see him on the touchline yesterday ? He is out of his depth big time.
Yes I do bring up Maguires name as he was ultimately responsible for recruiting the useless Bignot.
Remember Maguire has form at killing clubs. He is carrying on his form at Chester.An utter disgrace and he is on 50K a year to do this. shocking.
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Post by MMc on Nov 26, 2017 17:41:15 GMT
McCarthy was as bad as Bignot. I called for McCarthy go at the end of last season and got loads of abuse on here. We are not better with Bignot. We have no chance of staying up with Bignot in charge. Did you see him on the touchline yesterday ? He is out of his depth big time. Yes I do bring up Maguires name as he was ultimately responsible for recruiting the useless Bignot. Remember Maguire has form at killing clubs. He is carrying on his form at Chester.An utter disgrace and he is on 50K a year to do this. shocking. So who would you have liked to see us appoint as manager? Who is the person to save us from the drop? |
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Post by Malcolm Tucker on Nov 26, 2017 17:59:55 GMT
Bottom line Bignot has brought in 8/9 of his own players. All as bad or worse than McCarthys players. Because our budget has been pissed up the wall already and you get what you pay for. |
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Post by whopper3 on Nov 26, 2017 18:04:20 GMT
Go back and read my posts when McCarthy got the bullet. I had a short list of 3 proper football people.
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Post by MMc on Nov 26, 2017 18:23:16 GMT
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