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Post by Lobster on Dec 15, 2017 16:47:58 GMT
Modern society for you in all honesty, I’m not defending racism at all (which this isn’t in my opinion). But if this comment was made 10 years ago no one would of even commented, probably would of got laughed off and forgotten about. These days people love to be offended by something. An entitled generation of offended cretins. The most ridiculous example I've come across was actually more than 10 years ago. A guy was found guilty of acting in a racially aggravated manner and fined £750 because he used the term 'boyo' in a row with guy who happened to be Welsh. Depends on the context in which it's said. If you're English and you get in an argument with someone you know to be Welsh, then you're bringing their nationality into the argument by using that word. No doubt it goes too far at times and I'm not sure a fine is necessary, but I think it's better that we live in a society where discrimination and insults based on race or nationality are discouraged.
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Post by chislenko on Dec 16, 2017 0:25:11 GMT
Here we go again. Surely any correct test of a COUNTRY’S ability in a sport is only a valid and proper test if all concerned in the performance is representative of that country alone, and that should include all coaching and management members. Accordingly, the statement that the successful candidate should be Welsh seems very obvious. It is, in my opinion, all the other countries who include staff not representative of that country who are wrong, and I include all sports. It is inappropriate to compare such a job with that of any other profession because of the “measure” component. i.e. How good are Wales at football? The concept of having the four home countries as seperate teams is somewhat unique in world sport as participants are not passport holders of that country, simply because such passports don’t exist. The Olympics recognise this and only admit “Great Britain and Northern Ireland” as a combined team, as recognised by their passports. Surely being English, Welsh, Scottish, or Northern Irish has a deeper and historical meaning than merely being British, otherwise why do they exist? Ancestral lineage seems appropriate, so why criticise someone who has a Welsh grandparent for example? Stepping off a plane or boat from a far off place with no heritage whatsoever to a country, thereafter gaining British citizenship surely only makes them “British”’ not Welsh or English? In such regard the worst country for such “adoption” is England as it has by far the highest level of immigration. Using the United Nations as the benchmark please note that none of the four home countries are members, simply because they are Countries, not Nations. Excellent post mate and encapsulates many of the reasons why my interest in international sport has wained greatly. The rugby and cricket teams are no longer representative of the countries they are supposed to be playing under the flag of, athletics is a joke with people seemingly changing nationality at the drop of a hat. Football appears to be heading the same way with the schooling rule whereby top clubs, usually in the major footballing countries are picking up kids at a young age who then can defect to said country thus weakening the national team of their country of origin. The England under 17 team mentioned earlier had three players born in Africa, so the subsequent loss of talent for Nigeria, Ghana and Ivory Coast. It could well become like club football eventually whereby the greater incentive may be the deciding factor in "choosing your nationality"
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Post by Harry Lime on Dec 16, 2017 9:40:33 GMT
The problem in football had got worse over the past twenty years or so. Seem to recall the Germans hadn't done well in a couple of tournaments, and 'examined' they're coaching policy. The result was they found that they'd excluded a load of players that while they weren't German, qualified to play for them. If I remember correctly only 4 or 5 of their World Cup winning side were actually born in Germany. Belgium did the same a while back and look at them now.
FIFA activily supported the use of Foreign coaches when this was queried years back. They said it would penalise the developing nations to restrict them to appointing their own. Bringing European coaches in was supposed to help them compete and bring on their own coaches over time.
Surely the time has come for this to change. All players and coaches should qualify for that country.
Qualification should mean imo - born in that country or either of the parents were. - or moved to that country to live and spent minimum of 5 years there before the age of 16 - not represented any other country at a level over u16
Sure there would need to be tweaks, but it would be a starting point.
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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Dec 16, 2017 10:19:55 GMT
Some very interesting and well informed posts.
Just to get back to the thread, obviously not going to appoint Ryan Giggs then. He’s as English as Uncle Joes Mint Balls.
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Post by chislenko on Dec 17, 2017 9:43:07 GMT
Right on cue up pops this bloke Aljaž Bedene, Slovenian tennis player who became a British tennis player and has now gone back to representing Slovenia.
If you are a Slovenian tennis fan (presume there are some) how do you feel, Slovenia wasn't good enough so you went to seek your fortune as a British person but now that hasn't worked out all of a sudden you want to be a Slovene again!
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Post by rainfordblue on Dec 17, 2017 10:24:08 GMT
How can it be racist? English isn’t a race, its an ethnicity and nationality. That being said, I wouldn’t care if the next wales manager is a gender fluid unicorn as long as he/she/it is successful. Part of the legal definition of racism covers "national origin" - so the statement is indeed, racist.
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Post by chislenko on Dec 17, 2017 10:42:40 GMT
How can it be racist? English isn’t a race, its an ethnicity and nationality. That being said, I wouldn’t care if the next wales manager is a gender fluid unicorn as long as he/she/it is successful. Part of the legal definition of racism covers "national origin" - so the statement is indeed, racist. But it is an English man who has said it, can you be racist against your own race?
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Post by Wortleyblue on Dec 17, 2017 11:00:23 GMT
Part of the legal definition of racism covers "national origin" - so the statement is indeed, racist. But it is an English man who has said it, can you be racist against your own race?In terms of employment you can as you cannot discriminate against race colour creed or disability
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Post by rcb on Dec 17, 2017 11:32:14 GMT
How can it be racist? English isn’t a race, its an ethnicity and nationality. That being said, I wouldn’t care if the next wales manager is a gender fluid unicorn as long as he/she/it is successful. Part of the legal definition of racism covers "national origin" - so the statement is indeed, racist. Simply refer to your passport, which refers to BRITISH nationality. On immigrating into many foreign countries a form has to be completed which includes your COUNTRY of origin. There is a clear distinction. Nationality refers to being a resident having gained citizenship, and thus a passport, whilst being English or Welsh, for example, refers to heritage (i.e. family blood line). Hence the term British Asian which reflects a British citizen who is proud of their Asian heritage. In short, you can become British through residency, but heritage should dictate whether you are English, Welsh, or perhaps neither. Place of birth is irrelevant. A kitten born in a dogs home remains a cat. Ryan Giggs has quoted “I am Welsh, 100 percent. End of story. Both my parents and all my grandparents are Welsh.”
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Post by rainfordblue on Dec 17, 2017 11:58:09 GMT
Part of the legal definition of racism covers "national origin" - so the statement is indeed, racist. But it is an English man who has said it, can you be racist against your own race? Yep
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Post by chislenko on Dec 17, 2017 11:59:30 GMT
Part of the legal definition of racism covers "national origin" - so the statement is indeed, racist. Simply refer to your passport, which refers to BRITISH nationality. On immigrating into many foreign countries a form has to be completed which includes your COUNTRY of origin. There is a clear distinction. Nationality refers to being a resident having gained citizenship, and thus a passport, whilst being English or Welsh, for example, refers to heritage (i.e. family blood line). Hence the term British Asian which reflects a British citizen who is proud of their Asian heritage. In short, you can become British through residency, but heritage should dictate whether you are English, Welsh, or perhaps neither. Place of birth is irrelevant. A kitten born in a dogs home remains a cat. Ryan Giggs has quoted “I am Welsh, 100 percent. End of story. Both my parents and all my grandparents are Welsh.” I was under the impression that one of his grandparents was from Sierra Leone.
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Post by rainfordblue on Dec 17, 2017 12:00:58 GMT
Part of the legal definition of racism covers "national origin" - so the statement is indeed, racist. Simply refer to your passport, which refers to BRITISH nationality. On immigrating into many foreign countries a form has to be completed which includes your COUNTRY of origin. There is a clear distinction. Nationality refers to being a resident having gained citizenship, and thus a passport, whilst being English or Welsh, for example, refers to heritage (i.e. family blood line). Hence the term British Asian which reflects a British citizen who is proud of their Asian heritage. In short, you can become British through residency, but heritage should dictate whether you are English, Welsh, or perhaps neither. Place of birth is irrelevant. A kitten born in a dogs home remains a cat. Ryan Giggs has quoted “I am Welsh, 100 percent. End of story. Both my parents and all my grandparents are Welsh.” Really? Cats born in dogs homes? The statement rules out people on grounds of nationality - that is, by legal definition, racist.
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Post by Hannibal on Dec 17, 2017 12:17:10 GMT
Scandellous attitude . . . Just leave them alone and let them get on with looking for English players whose grandma bought a Kiss Me Quick hat in Barmouth or a great aunt who has an English off-spring who ate a slice of Barabrith Loaf at a tea house in Merthyr Tydfil in 1952. Joke nation Ha ha, when they beat Belgium 3-1 in the Euros all their 3 goalscorers were born in England, so in my book that makes them English.
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Post by Hannibal on Dec 17, 2017 12:20:36 GMT
Some very interesting and well informed posts. Just to get back to the thread, obviously not going to appoint Ryan Giggs then. He’s as English as Uncle Joes Mint Balls. Not familiar with that phrase. What does it mean? Wasn't his father's name Wilson?
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Post by Hannibal on Dec 17, 2017 12:26:45 GMT
Simply refer to your passport, which refers to BRITISH nationality. On immigrating into many foreign countries a form has to be completed which includes your COUNTRY of origin. There is a clear distinction. Nationality refers to being a resident having gained citizenship, and thus a passport, whilst being English or Welsh, for example, refers to heritage (i.e. family blood line). Hence the term British Asian which reflects a British citizen who is proud of their Asian heritage. In short, you can become British through residency, but heritage should dictate whether you are English, Welsh, or perhaps neither. Place of birth is irrelevant. A kitten born in a dogs home remains a cat. Ryan Giggs has quoted “I am Welsh, 100 percent. End of story. Both my parents and all my grandparents are Welsh.” Really? Cats born in dogs homes? The statement rules out people on grounds of nationality - that is, by legal definition, racist. Maybe to you, but not to me. I was born in Chester, England and I'm a true Cestrian, otherwise I wouldn't be supporting one of the shittest teams ever . The cats and dogs analogy is a bit childish imo.
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Post by norwegianblue on Dec 17, 2017 12:31:45 GMT
What do people think about the Welsh FA boss stating that the next Wales boss will be "definitely not English"? I'm not losing any sleep over it, but it does make me wonder what other job is it acceptable to not only say that you prefer a certain nationality, but that you are specifically ruling out applicants of another certain nationality? I think it was hilarious and didn't take offence at all.
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Post by rcb on Dec 17, 2017 12:36:44 GMT
Simply refer to your passport, which refers to BRITISH nationality. On immigrating into many foreign countries a form has to be completed which includes your COUNTRY of origin. There is a clear distinction. Nationality refers to being a resident having gained citizenship, and thus a passport, whilst being English or Welsh, for example, refers to heritage (i.e. family blood line). Hence the term British Asian which reflects a British citizen who is proud of their Asian heritage. In short, you can become British through residency, but heritage should dictate whether you are English, Welsh, or perhaps neither. Place of birth is irrelevant. A kitten born in a dogs home remains a cat. Ryan Giggs has quoted “I am Welsh, 100 percent. End of story. Both my parents and all my grandparents are Welsh.” Really? Cats born in dogs homes? The statement rules out people on grounds of nationality - that is, by legal definition, racist. Please read again. Neither england or wales are nations, so nationality doesn’t come into it. Either’s nationality is BRITISH. In the case of many people who have parents who are English and Welsh then dual eligibility applies. please note, being in a majority doesn’t make you right, it merely reflects a lot of people are wrong. Feel free to proudly announce your error as loudly as you want.
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Post by rainfordblue on Dec 17, 2017 13:10:24 GMT
Really? Cats born in dogs homes? The statement rules out people on grounds of nationality - that is, by legal definition, racist. Please read again. Neither england or wales are nations, so nationality doesn’t come into it. Either’s nationality is BRITISH. In the case of many people who have parents who are English and Welsh then dual eligibility applies. please note, being in a majority doesn’t make you right, it merely reflects a lot of people are wrong. Feel free to proudly announce your error as loudly as you want. Lovely flowery rhetoric there, if only you could actually use facts to support your argument. You know, like the Tranmere fan charged and convicted of racially aggravated harassment after shouting anti-welsh slurs at Wrexham.I bet on the parade ground, you were the only one marching in step... I know that may stretch your brain power to somewhere near it's limit, but if you ever get there, you'll find it's quite apt here. Particularly your refusal to accept you're actually quite wrong!
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Post by rainfordblue on Dec 17, 2017 13:17:38 GMT
Please read again. Neither england or wales are nations, so nationality doesn’t come into it. Either’s nationality is BRITISH. In the case of many people who have parents who are English and Welsh then dual eligibility applies. please note, being in a majority doesn’t make you right, it merely reflects a lot of people are wrong. Feel free to proudly announce your error as loudly as you want. Lovely flowery rhetoric there, if only you could actually use facts to support your argument. You know, like the Tranmere fan charged and convicted of racially aggravated harassment after shouting anti-welsh slurs at Wrexham.I bet on the parade ground, you were the only one marching in step... I know that may stretch your brain power to somewhere near it's limit, but if you ever get there, you'll find it's quite apt here. Particularly your refusal to accept you're actually quite wrong! Or how about the Scot who was jailed for racially aggravated threatening behaviour for shouting "English bastards" and 'English scum". Please feel free to support your point with facts. No? Can't manage it? Then please feel free to acknowledge your mistakes, and the fact that other people are sometimes more knowledgeable...
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Post by rainfordblue on Dec 17, 2017 13:23:25 GMT
Or how about the Scot who was jailed for racially aggravated threatening behaviour for shouting "English bastards" and 'English scum". Please feel free to support your point with facts. No? Can't manage it? Then please feel free to acknowledge your mistakes, and the fact that other people are sometimes more knowledgeable... Or the English tour guide convicted of racially aggravated assault following an anti Welsh verbal assault, for which she received a suspended sentence? I'm sure you're collating all your examples at the moment, which will show these cases to be nothing more than a figment of my imagination. Or maybe not. Maybe instead, you're about to say you're actually wrong.
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Post by rcb on Dec 17, 2017 13:35:26 GMT
Or the English tour guide convicted of racially aggravated assault following an anti Welsh verbal assault, for which she received a suspended sentence? I'm sure you're collating all your examples at the moment, which will show these cases to be nothing more than a figment of my imagination. Or maybe not. Maybe instead, you're about to say you're actually wrong. Carry on reading the Sun.
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Post by rainfordblue on Dec 17, 2017 13:43:58 GMT
Carry on reading the Sun. Marvellous retort! You're wrong, you've been shown up as wrong, you've the opportunity to back up your comments, and that's what you come back with! How very well read you obviously are! If somebody else shows you up - they must be a Sun reader! Come on, Oscar Wilde, get those little grey cells working, and come up with something slightly more erudite than the drivel you've spouted so far. How long must we wait for your next pearls of wisdom?
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Post by Captain Duff on Dec 17, 2017 15:47:13 GMT
Part of the legal definition of racism covers "national origin" - so the statement is indeed, racist. Simply refer to your passport, which refers to BRITISH nationality. On immigrating into many foreign countries a form has to be completed which includes your COUNTRY of origin. There is a clear distinction. Nationality refers to being a resident having gained citizenship, and thus a passport, whilst being English or Welsh, for example, refers to heritage (i.e. family blood line). Hence the term British Asian which reflects a British citizen who is proud of their Asian heritage. In short, you can become British through residency, but heritage should dictate whether you are English, Welsh, or perhaps neither. Place of birth is irrelevant. A kitten born in a dogs home remains a cat. Ryan Giggs has quoted “I am Welsh, 100 percent. End of story. Both my parents and all my grandparents are Welsh.” This is wrong on a number of levels. Britain came about by the uniting of the Scottish and English crowns and separate ruling classes of each state. Wales had already been conquered by the English and was not counted separately to the definition of 'England' at the time. Britain was then joined by Ireland in 1800 in a 'free' decision but one where it been conquered repeatedly by England (mainly in the south) and Scotland (mainly in the north) in the previous 900 years and where the 'Irish' ruling class was dominated by lords of English and Scottish orign, this created the legal entity of the 'United Kingdom of Great Britain & Ireland' in 1800, which lasted until the bulk of Ireland was finally liberated from British colonialism and the Irish Free State was formed, with the 6 out of the 9 counties of Ulster (the ones with Protestant majorities) remaining with Britain where we became 'the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland', or UK for short. It is very clear that both culturally and legally we were and are a political union of different nations (underscored by the fact that Scotland has a completely different legal and education system to the rest of the UK, and always has done). Further proof of that is in the fact that our nationality is not 'UKish' is it? 'British' does have a resonance, particularly among older people with a link to the two world wars (knowing relatives that fought in both etc.)., as up until the 1950s 'British' and 'English' were interchangeable to describe the country, even when talking about Scottish or Welsh people, and where the wars had solidified a national identity across all the mainland of Britain (sadly for the NI unionists they have always been considered 'Irish' by everyone else and never 'British except by themselves in terms of identity, although they of course played a key role in fighting for Britain in both wars). But for younger people 'British' is less of an identity compared to 'Scottish'. 'English', 'Welsh' etc. (this was shown in the Scottish independence referendum albeit with some exceptions) , although there is an important exception to this with a lot of people from BAME and immigrant communities who are more likely to self-identify with the term 'British'. So while we have a legal and political union that has created the UK (for now, and until Ireland is finally reunited, which may well be one of the biggest positives of Brexit), and yes, we have UK passports, but below that we have nationalities based on the component parts of that political union. It is after all the reason we also have four separate national football teams within the UK, something that cannot be understood without acknowledging that we are a legal union of different nations in the wider UK state. And, to link it to the topic, as discrimination by nationality is linked to race discrimination under the 2010 Equality Act you can have a situation where discrimination by nationality can take place between UK citizens who are from the different nations of the union.
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Post by rcb on Dec 17, 2017 17:29:07 GMT
Simply refer to your passport, which refers to BRITISH nationality. On immigrating into many foreign countries a form has to be completed which includes your COUNTRY of origin. There is a clear distinction. Nationality refers to being a resident having gained citizenship, and thus a passport, whilst being English or Welsh, for example, refers to heritage (i.e. family blood line). Hence the term British Asian which reflects a British citizen who is proud of their Asian heritage. In short, you can become British through residency, but heritage should dictate whether you are English, Welsh, or perhaps neither. Place of birth is irrelevant. A kitten born in a dogs home remains a cat. Ryan Giggs has quoted “I am Welsh, 100 percent. End of story. Both my parents and all my grandparents are Welsh.” This is wrong on a number of levels. Britain came about by the uniting of the Scottish and English crowns and separate ruling classes of each state. Wales had already been conquered by the English and was not counted separately to the definition of 'England' at the time. Britain was then joined by Ireland in 1800 in a 'free' decision but one where it been conquered repeatedly by England (mainly in the south) and Scotland (mainly in the north) in the previous 900 years and where the 'Irish' ruling class was dominated by lords of English and Scottish orign, this created the legal entity of the 'United Kingdom of Great Britain & Ireland' in 1800, which lasted until the bulk of Ireland was finally liberated from British colonialism and the Irish Free State was formed, with the 6 out of the 9 counties of Ulster (the ones with Protestant majorities) remaining with Britain where we became 'the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland', or UK for short. It is very clear that both culturally and legally we were and are a political union of different nations (underscored by the fact that Scotland has a completely different legal and education system to the rest of the UK, and always has done). Further proof of that is in the fact that our nationality is not 'UKish' is it? 'British' does have a resonance, particularly among older people with a link to the two world wars (knowing relatives that fought in both etc.)., as up until the 1950s 'British' and 'English' were interchangeable to describe the country, even when talking about Scottish or Welsh people, and where the wars had solidified a national identity across all the mainland of Britain (sadly for the NI unionists they have always been considered 'Irish' by everyone else and never 'British except by themselves in terms of identity, although they of course played a key role in fighting for Britain in both wars). But for younger people 'British' is less of an identity compared to 'Scottish'. 'English', 'Welsh' etc. (this was shown in the Scottish independence referendum albeit with some exceptions) , although there is an important exception to this with a lot of people from BAME and immigrant communities who are more likely to self-identify with the term 'British'. So while we have a legal and political union that has created the UK (for now, and until Ireland is finally reunited, which may well be one of the biggest positives of Brexit), and yes, we have UK passports, but below that we have nationalities based on the component parts of that political union. It is after all the reason we also have four separate national football teams within the UK, something that cannot be understood without acknowledging that we are a legal union of different nations in the wider UK state. And, to link it to the topic, as discrimination by nationality is linked to race discrimination under the 2010 Equality Act you can have a situation where discrimination by nationality can take place between UK citizens who are from the different nations of the union. Britain is a noun which is used to name a geographical group of islands (i.e. the British Isles), with the largest being called Great Britain. Geological evidence shows its existence over millions of years. It is incorrect to refer to Britain only coming about as the result of a political union. However, The Kingdom of Great Britain came about with the Act of Union passed in 1707. I have seen the four member states referred to as both Countries and Nations in quality sources so we could both claim to be right in that regard. I choose to use the concept adopted for passport and immigration purposes, in naming British as the nationality and the four members as countries, as in “Country of origin”. I have not analysed in depth the 2010 Equality Act, but I assume positive discrimination applies for playing selection for National Teams, but not extended to include managerial and coaching positions. In my view this is a pity as I see managing and coaching as an integral part of a team’s success.
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Post by Wortleyblue on Dec 17, 2017 17:37:19 GMT
This is wrong on a number of levels. Britain came about by the uniting of the Scottish and English crowns and separate ruling classes of each state. Wales had already been conquered by the English and was not counted separately to the definition of 'England' at the time. Britain was then joined by Ireland in 1800 in a 'free' decision but one where it been conquered repeatedly by England (mainly in the south) and Scotland (mainly in the north) in the previous 900 years and where the 'Irish' ruling class was dominated by lords of English and Scottish orign, this created the legal entity of the 'United Kingdom of Great Britain & Ireland' in 1800, which lasted until the bulk of Ireland was finally liberated from British colonialism and the Irish Free State was formed, with the 6 out of the 9 counties of Ulster (the ones with Protestant majorities) remaining with Britain where we became 'the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland', or UK for short. It is very clear that both culturally and legally we were and are a political union of different nations (underscored by the fact that Scotland has a completely different legal and education system to the rest of the UK, and always has done). Further proof of that is in the fact that our nationality is not 'UKish' is it? 'British' does have a resonance, particularly among older people with a link to the two world wars (knowing relatives that fought in both etc.)., as up until the 1950s 'British' and 'English' were interchangeable to describe the country, even when talking about Scottish or Welsh people, and where the wars had solidified a national identity across all the mainland of Britain (sadly for the NI unionists they have always been considered 'Irish' by everyone else and never 'British except by themselves in terms of identity, although they of course played a key role in fighting for Britain in both wars). But for younger people 'British' is less of an identity compared to 'Scottish'. 'English', 'Welsh' etc. (this was shown in the Scottish independence referendum albeit with some exceptions) , although there is an important exception to this with a lot of people from BAME and immigrant communities who are more likely to self-identify with the term 'British'. So while we have a legal and political union that has created the UK (for now, and until Ireland is finally reunited, which may well be one of the biggest positives of Brexit), and yes, we have UK passports, but below that we have nationalities based on the component parts of that political union. It is after all the reason we also have four separate national football teams within the UK, something that cannot be understood without acknowledging that we are a legal union of different nations in the wider UK state. And, to link it to the topic, as discrimination by nationality is linked to race discrimination under the 2010 Equality Act you can have a situation where discrimination by nationality can take place between UK citizens who are from the different nations of the union. Britain is a noun which is used to name a geographical group of islands (i.e. the British Isles), with the largest being called Great Britain. Geological evidence shows its existence over millions of years. It is incorrect to refer to Britain only coming about as the result of a political union. However, The Kingdom of Great Britain came about with the Act of Union passed in 1707. I have seen the four member states referred to as both Countries and Nations in quality sources so we could both claim to be right in that regard. I choose to use the concept adopted for passport and immigration purposes, in naming British as the nationality and the four members as countries, as in “Country of origin”. I have not analysed in depth the 2010 Equality Act, but I assume positive discrimination applies for playing selection for National Teams, but not extended to include managerial and coaching positions. In my view this is a pity as I see managing and coaching as an integral part of a team’s success. Wow this is illuminating could be the basis of a Thesis
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Post by norwegianblue on Dec 17, 2017 18:27:12 GMT
Some very interesting and well informed posts. Just to get back to the thread, obviously not going to appoint Ryan Giggs then. He’s as English as Uncle Joes Mint Balls. Not familiar with that phrase. What does it mean? Wasn't his father's name Wilson? Uncle Joes Mint Balls explained
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Post by rcb on Dec 17, 2017 18:57:29 GMT
Britain is a noun which is used to name a geographical group of islands (i.e. the British Isles), with the largest being called Great Britain. Geological evidence shows its existence over millions of years. It is incorrect to refer to Britain only coming about as the result of a political union. However, The Kingdom of Great Britain came about with the Act of Union passed in 1707. I have seen the four member states referred to as both Countries and Nations in quality sources so we could both claim to be right in that regard. I choose to use the concept adopted for passport and immigration purposes, in naming British as the nationality and the four members as countries, as in “Country of origin”. I have not analysed in depth the 2010 Equality Act, but I assume positive discrimination applies for playing selection for National Teams, but not extended to include managerial and coaching positions. In my view this is a pity as I see managing and coaching as an integral part of a team’s success. Wow this is illuminating could be the basis of a Thesis In the absence of any punctuation or grammar, including the incorrect use of a capital for thesis, it is not apparent whether this is intended as sarcasm or not.
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Post by Wortleyblue on Dec 17, 2017 22:20:25 GMT
Wow this is illuminating could be the basis of a Thesis In the absence of any punctuation or grammar, including the incorrect use of a capital for thesis, it is not apparent whether this is intended as sarcasm or not. There are 2 types of people in the world 1 Those who understand and appreciate sarcasm 2 Idiots
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Post by rcb on Dec 17, 2017 23:26:01 GMT
In the absence of any punctuation or grammar, including the incorrect use of a capital for thesis, it is not apparent whether this is intended as sarcasm or not. There are 2 types of people in the world 1 Those who understand and appreciate sarcasm 2 Idiots No semicolon or full stops in the above, so I take it you are the idiot referred to in your list.
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Post by Wortleyblue on Dec 18, 2017 7:13:32 GMT
There are 2 types of people in the world 1 Those who understand and appreciate sarcasm 2 Idiots No semicolon or full stops in the above, so I take it you are the idiot referred to in your list. Are you a) being sarcastic b) trying to be sarcastic c) a bloody English teacher Or is that a racist question?
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