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Post by dmcnally on Dec 20, 2017 21:07:44 GMT
Never disrespected him. He won’t be our manager as we need a long-term fix, which he would not provide. I’m sorry Mr McNally, I’ve read many of your posts with interest but the rubbish you spout in posts such as this proves to me, a supporter of 52 years that you don’t engage your brain before you post. How can you make a statement as ridiculous as the one above when Big Graham has just been appointed Director of Football at a club higher than ours. You really need to start providing evidence for your nonsense or it will remain just that nonsense. Just compare what Bignot has achieved compared to Barrow. Quite simply he’s not fit to lace his boots. Bignot is our manager and I will forever support Chester whoever manages them it’s a life choice, but you will never prove me wrong when I say that Barrow would have been a much better choice providing exactly what you say he can’t; stability supported by a colossal knowledge about the game. Can i leave you with one last thought. If you needed repairs on your house (or your parents)would you employ someone who’d brief experience with one successful project or a builder with a wealth of experience, a huge portfolio and massively respected within the profession? Especiall6 when they both cost the same.........no brainer Soon as I saw your name on the notification I knew I was in some for nice abuse lol! I'd choose Bignot as he'd build me a state of the art design whilst Barrow would build something which maybe was acceptable 20 years ago, and he'd probably be too old and retire when the work is only just starting! Just messing around now 😁
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Post by boughtonblue on Dec 20, 2017 21:22:33 GMT
I’m sorry Mr McNally, I’ve read many of your posts with interest but the rubbish you spout in posts such as this proves to me, a supporter of 52 years that you don’t engage your brain before you post. How can you make a statement as ridiculous as the one above when Big Graham has just been appointed Director of Football at a club higher than ours. You really need to start providing evidence for your nonsense or it will remain just that nonsense. Just compare what Bignot has achieved compared to Barrow. Quite simply he’s not fit to lace his boots. Bignot is our manager and I will forever support Chester whoever manages them it’s a life choice, but you will never prove me wrong when I say that Barrow would have been a much better choice providing exactly what you say he can’t; stability supported by a colossal knowledge about the game. Can i leave you with one last thought. If you needed repairs on your house (or your parents)would you employ someone who’d brief experience with one successful project or a builder with a wealth of experience, a huge portfolio and massively respected within the profession? Especiall6 when they both cost the same.........no brainer Soon as I saw your name on the notification I knew I was in some for nice abuse lol! I'd choose Bignot as he'd build me a state of the art design whilst Barrow would build something which maybe was acceptable 20 years ago, and he'd probably be too old and retire when the work is only just starting! Just messing around now 😁 I'm with you DC, I supported Chester through Barrow years and it's true he is a legend but he is nearing retirement age and we need a younger more ambitious manger to take us forward. Barrows last Chester side was pretty boring to watch and other supporters of clubs he has managed have been not too complimentary. Yes Barrow is a Chester legend but no he is not what we need right now
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Post by Oaks Blue on Dec 20, 2017 22:31:44 GMT
Great post! The young CFC fans will never know what Barrow did for the club, and have very little respect for him sadly. We've not had a midfielder like him since, which is probably the saddest thing. You make it out like we actually don't like him lol...... What did you mean by the post in this thread then? "Barrow will never be our manager again, and rightly so" Don't get me wrong, i like Bignot and he needs time to build his own squad. But you and other young fans are showing a lack of respect, and that's not in doubt.
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Post by dmcnally on Dec 20, 2017 23:00:08 GMT
You make it out like we actually don't like him lol...... What did you mean by the post in this thread then? "Barrow will never be our manager again, and rightly so" Don't get me wrong, i like Bignot and he needs time to build his own squad. But you and other young fans are showing a lack of respect, and that's not in doubt. That he may be a good manager but IMO he isn't what we need. Just because someone is a legend it doesn't automatically qualify them for the job over others.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Dec 20, 2017 23:04:28 GMT
A few things...
1) Barrow is a club legend and correctly a Hall of Famer.
2) Bignot is absolutely the right man to build a squad that will get us challenging at the top end of Conference North over the next couple of seasons and he has my full backing.
3) I believe McNally to be staunchly loyal to anything MM says or does and to any decision MM makes, and so staunchly anti-anything else, because he is so far up MM's rectum that if MM farted, he'd suffocate.
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Post by dmcnally on Dec 20, 2017 23:25:00 GMT
A few things... 1) Barrow is a club legend and correctly a Hall of Famer. 2) Bignot is absolutely the right man to build a squad that will get us challenging at the top end of Conference North over the next couple of seasons and he has my full backing. 3) I believe McNally to be staunchly loyal to anything MM says or does and to any decision MM makes, and so staunchly anti-anything else, because he is so far up MM's rectum that if MM farted, he'd suffocate. You mention him more than me.
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Post by rcb on Dec 20, 2017 23:43:27 GMT
A few things... 1) Barrow is a club legend and correctly a Hall of Famer. 2) Bignot is absolutely the right man to build a squad that will get us challenging at the top end of Conference North over the next couple of seasons and he has my full backing. 3) I believe McNally to be staunchly loyal to anything MM says or does and to any decision MM makes, and so staunchly anti-anything else, because he is so far up MM's rectum that if MM farted, he'd suffocate. Just read your point 2. Does this mean you accept he is currently failing in his attempt to keep us in this league? Alternatively, are you suggesting that avoiding relegation was never the target, and that Bignot was appointed to build a squad for the National North. His only success was at National North level after all.
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Post by Mean Machine on Dec 20, 2017 23:49:46 GMT
A few things... 1) Barrow is a club legend and correctly a Hall of Famer. 2) Bignot is absolutely the right man to build a squad that will get us challenging at the top end of Conference North over the next couple of seasons and he has my full backing.
3) I believe McNally to be staunchly loyal to anything MM says or does and to any decision MM makes, and so staunchly anti-anything else, because he is so far up MM's rectum that if MM farted, he'd suffocate. If Bignot is the right man to get us challenging at the top end of conference north over the next couple of seasons, then as far as I am concerned he is the wrong man for the job A half decent manager should be able to keep us in this division Look how Roy Hodgson has turned Crystal Palace around in a matter of weeks Performances under Bignot are better, but not by much, we are still in 21st place as we were when mcCarthy left, and how many signings has he made, smacks of panic signing anyone who is available, rather than targeting players who may be able to improve the team, if players are no improvement on what we already have why sign them ? I am prepared to give Bignot my support but the next few games are going to to be huge, hopefully we can put a few wins together and start to climb the table
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Post by marner93 on Dec 21, 2017 2:20:53 GMT
A few things... 1) Barrow is a club legend and correctly a Hall of Famer. 2) Bignot is absolutely the right man to build a squad that will get us challenging at the top end of Conference North over the next couple of seasons and he has my full backing. 3) I believe McNally to be staunchly loyal to anything MM says or does and to any decision MM makes, and so staunchly anti-anything else, because he is so far up MM's rectum that if MM farted, he'd suffocate. Like you and Corbyn that
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Post by eyeswideopen on Dec 21, 2017 7:23:28 GMT
Never disrespected him. He won’t be our manager as we need a long-term fix, which he would not provide. I’m sorry Mr McNally, I’ve read many of your posts with interest but the rubbish you spout in posts such as this proves to me, a supporter of 52 years that you don’t engage your brain before you post. How can you make a statement as ridiculous as the one above when Big Graham has just been appointed Director of Football at a club higher than ours. You really need to start providing evidence for your nonsense or it will remain just that nonsense. Just compare what Bignot has achieved compared to Barrow. Quite simply he’s not fit to lace his boots. Bignot is our manager and I will forever support Chester whoever manages them it’s a life choice, but you will never prove me wrong when I say that Barrow would have been a much better choice providing exactly what you say he can’t; stability supported by a colossal knowledge about the game. Can i leave you with one last thought. If you needed repairs on your house (or your parents)would you employ someone who’d brief experience with one successful project or a builder with a wealth of experience, a huge portfolio and massively respected within the profession? Especiall6 when they both cost the same.........no brainer I cannot for one minute believe that Barrow and Bignot would be on the same money at their respective clubs. Fylde are throwing money at this league, just like Eastleigh, Barrow etc.
As much of a legend as Barrow is at the club, and he in in my top three favourite ever players btw, although the time may have been right, we have a budget and GB didn't tick that box, this time.
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Post by rcb on Dec 21, 2017 10:06:41 GMT
I’m sorry Mr McNally, I’ve read many of your posts with interest but the rubbish you spout in posts such as this proves to me, a supporter of 52 years that you don’t engage your brain before you post. How can you make a statement as ridiculous as the one above when Big Graham has just been appointed Director of Football at a club higher than ours. You really need to start providing evidence for your nonsense or it will remain just that nonsense. Just compare what Bignot has achieved compared to Barrow. Quite simply he’s not fit to lace his boots. Bignot is our manager and I will forever support Chester whoever manages them it’s a life choice, but you will never prove me wrong when I say that Barrow would have been a much better choice providing exactly what you say he can’t; stability supported by a colossal knowledge about the game. Can i leave you with one last thought. If you needed repairs on your house (or your parents)would you employ someone who’d brief experience with one successful project or a builder with a wealth of experience, a huge portfolio and massively respected within the profession? Especiall6 when they both cost the same.........no brainer I cannot for one minute believe that Barrow and Bignot would be on the same money at their respective clubs. Fylde are throwing money at this league, just like Eastleigh, Barrow etc.
As much of a legend as Barrow is at the club, and he in in my top three favourite ever players btw, although the time may have been right, we have a budget and GB didn't tick that box, this time.
My interpretation of the quote was it referred to the Chester manager salary as being the same for whoever got the job, and nothing to do with what Fylde are paying. By the way, do you have access to inside information or is your statement about GB not ticking the box simply conjecture?
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Post by eyeswideopen on Dec 21, 2017 12:01:28 GMT
I cannot for one minute believe that Barrow and Bignot would be on the same money at their respective clubs. Fylde are throwing money at this league, just like Eastleigh, Barrow etc.
As much of a legend as Barrow is at the club, and he in in my top three favourite ever players btw, although the time may have been right, we have a budget and GB didn't tick that box, this time.
My interpretation of the quote was it referred to the Chester manager salary as being the same for whoever got the job, and nothing to do with what Fylde are paying. By the way, do you have access to inside information or is your statement about GB not ticking the box simply conjecture? So in that case your analogy is a crock , as not all quotes are the same. If the Chester Manager Salary was based on the "inexperienced builder" pay bracket, your not going to get the experienced one are you?
No inside information, just used powers of common sense, we appointed MB over GB because we don't have that type of money. Fylde have plenty of cash and appoint GB, its really not rocket science.
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Post by peterkaysock on Dec 21, 2017 12:02:06 GMT
I’m sorry Mr McNally, I’ve read many of your posts with interest but the rubbish you spout in posts such as this proves to me, a supporter of 52 years that you don’t engage your brain before you post. How can you make a statement as ridiculous as the one above when Big Graham has just been appointed Director of Football at a club higher than ours. You really need to start providing evidence for your nonsense or it will remain just that nonsense. Just compare what Bignot has achieved compared to Barrow. Quite simply he’s not fit to lace his boots. Bignot is our manager and I will forever support Chester whoever manages them it’s a life choice, but you will never prove me wrong when I say that Barrow would have been a much better choice providing exactly what you say he can’t; stability supported by a colossal knowledge about the game. Can i leave you with one last thought. If you needed repairs on your house (or your parents)would you employ someone who’d brief experience with one successful project or a builder with a wealth of experience, a huge portfolio and massively respected within the profession? Especiall6 when they both cost the same.........no brainer I cannot for one minute believe that Barrow and Bignot would be on the same money at their respective clubs. Fylde are throwing money at this league, just like Eastleigh, Barrow etc.
As much of a legend as Barrow is at the club, and he in in my top three favourite ever players btw, although the time may have been right, we have a budget and GB didn't tick that box, this time.
Sorry disagree they throwing money at it, yes they have invested, but they have done it slowly and from what i have seen wisely. Built their ground and brought players in at a reasonable wage. They have had a plan and a target which is in the time scale is acceptable.
Staying faith with a long term manager, and building as they a going along. Spending where they think its needs spending.
Good on them, i wanted Barrow but i think as some of mentioned he would be ok short term, Bignot is going to hanging around for sometime.
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Post by rcb on Dec 21, 2017 14:14:01 GMT
My interpretation of the quote was it referred to the Chester manager salary as being the same for whoever got the job, and nothing to do with what Fylde are paying. By the way, do you have access to inside information or is your statement about GB not ticking the box simply conjecture? So in that case your analogy is a crock , as not all quotes are the same. If the Chester Manager Salary was based on the "inexperienced builder" pay bracket, your not going to get the experienced one are you?
No inside information, just used powers of common sense, we appointed MB over GB because we don't have that type of money. Fylde have plenty of cash and appoint GB, its really not rocket science.
Sorry, I don’t understand your first sentence, particularly as I see no quotes. You didn’t draw the phrase “inexperienced builder” from my comments so I don’t understand your reply. You say you have no inside information and yet you continue to state circumstances related to money, when such issues are not in the public domain. Therefore, I must question your powers of common sense as falling closer to speculation. Interested to read your observation “we appointed MB over GB because we don’t have that type of money.” Clearly this means that Bignot was the cheap option. Outside of 5th. November I doubt you are well versed in respect of rocket science.
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Post by avfo on Dec 21, 2017 14:37:08 GMT
The job specification for the post of first team manager stated that the salary would be 'Dependent upon experience'.
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Post by soulseal on Dec 21, 2017 14:42:18 GMT
Use of term Legend for Graham Barrow is all very well in those misty eyed remembrances of yesteryear. Doesn’t ensure he would have been the right man for the job today. Had he been appointed I wouldn’t have been disappointed but our man now is Marcus and I am pleased that he is actively trying to improve things, even if some of his loan signings have been a a bit random. I suspect his intent was as much to shake up our current squad into better performances as it was to bring in better players.
We will never know if Barrow would have been the right or wrong appointment at this time but I am happy to remember him as a player and manager and wish him well at Fylde. But not as much as I wish MB well at Chester.
Here’s to the continuation of the current improvement 🍺🍺
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Post by iandychesterfc on Dec 21, 2017 16:04:20 GMT
Bignot came into a mess with only 4 defenders 3/4 of whom are having a bad time.
He addressed this by getting a pacey right back and a steady left back. He utilised a back 3 to make the most of RHJ pace and ability to get forward. It doesnt quite work on the left as Gough is an honest defensive left-back but needs must. He then promoted Jones and got in another centre back that means we now have options at the back.
so, he saw the problem and addressed it.
regards Archer, he's the targetman Harry White and Nyal Bell aren't.
Im not sure what signings can be criticised? Slew came on non-contract same with some goalkeepers to provide cover and have a look at in training - this is the level we are at. Its not like NY signing big names is giving young players a chance. some will be ready, some wont.
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Post by dmcnally on Dec 21, 2017 16:23:24 GMT
So in that case your analogy is a crock , as not all quotes are the same. If the Chester Manager Salary was based on the "inexperienced builder" pay bracket, your not going to get the experienced one are you?
No inside information, just used powers of common sense, we appointed MB over GB because we don't have that type of money. Fylde have plenty of cash and appoint GB, its really not rocket science.
Sorry, I don’t understand your first sentence, particularly as I see no quotes. You didn’t draw the phrase “inexperienced builder” from my comments so I don’t understand your reply. You say you have no inside information and yet you continue to state circumstances related to money, when such issues are not in the public domain. Therefore, I must question your powers of common sense as falling closer to speculation. Interested to read your observation “we appointed MB over GB because we don’t have that type of money.” Clearly this means that Bignot was the cheap option. Outside of 5th. November I doubt you are well versed in respect of rocket science. If someone can’t afford a Ferrari they might buy an Audi. An Audi isn’t a cheap option. Just because we might not be able to afford one option it doesn’t make all other options cheap. A cheap option would have been to appoint Tom Shaw/Calum McIntyre/Andy Holden.
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Post by rcb on Dec 21, 2017 16:32:57 GMT
Sorry, I don’t understand your first sentence, particularly as I see no quotes. You didn’t draw the phrase “inexperienced builder” from my comments so I don’t understand your reply. You say you have no inside information and yet you continue to state circumstances related to money, when such issues are not in the public domain. Therefore, I must question your powers of common sense as falling closer to speculation. Interested to read your observation “we appointed MB over GB because we don’t have that type of money.” Clearly this means that Bignot was the cheap option. Outside of 5th. November I doubt you are well versed in respect of rocket science. If someone can’t afford a Ferrari they might buy an Audi. An Audi isn’t a cheap option. Just because we might not be able to afford one option it doesn’t make all other options cheap. A cheap option would have been to appoint Tom Shaw/Calum McIntyre/Andy Holden. ...so there you have it. Eloquent and clear.
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Post by tonya on Dec 21, 2017 17:06:12 GMT
Only time will tell whether M B was the right choice.Those that are seemingly convinced he is have little to base their firm belief on. Strong emotions from loyal supporters is understandable though. As for Graham Barrow, we will never know. On paper he was the strongest candidate and there must have been a very good reason for not appointing him....financial springs to mind.
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Post by sqzl on Dec 21, 2017 22:16:03 GMT
I personally doubt it was financial. I doubt he was on a wedge at Chesterfield who are financial strugglers (not willing to spend much despite a wealthy backer) and league strugglers too. I mean is it beyond the realm of possibility he was just not meeting the interview criteria and the long term visions of the club. In 5 years time there's no chance he will be working where as with MB we could look to rebuild a strong side this summer to take forward for the next few years. I've just read some babble about how Roy Hodgson has turned Palace around, and no disrespect to the poster of that, but what a crock a sh*te. You simply can't compare a PL club with £30m+ strikers and already a fairly solid side at that level to us, conference strugglers for several seasons with half a squad not fit for the conference North that JM has signed. It would be hard for any manager of football to turn us around, but we've seen improvement in results and the facts are, if MB points per game were gained from the start of the season we'd be outside the bottom 4. That's enough for me to see we've picked a man spangle of pulling us away from this mess.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Dec 21, 2017 22:37:53 GMT
Good post this Sqzl. Yes I remember the good days underbarriw but they have long gone. As I’ve mentioned before it’s many years since GB had success at any level now. Let’s hope MB can drag us out of this. A result at the shay would help.
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Post by rcb on Dec 21, 2017 23:13:49 GMT
As Christmas approaches and we begin the second half of the season the task in hand is simple. Achieving it may not be as simple. We need to continue to perform equal to the three clubs below us, and in the process overtake ONLY ONE club above us. That club may even currently sit comfortably in the top ten, thinking of where we sat twelve months ago. My greatest fear is that there is already too much talk about building for next season, some even saying in preparation for the National North. I presently don’t give a damn about next season. I might do at the end of April, but for now surely all efforts and resources should be exclusively focused on crossing this season’s safety line. If that means borrowing money in lieu of future income such as from Tranmere and Leicester then get on with it. Regardless of whether people wanted Barrow, Bignot, Allardyce or Guardiola now is not the time to say or do anything to affect that focus. Start the music please. Bring on The Great Escape now!
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Post by rcb on Dec 22, 2017 13:27:33 GMT
Hope the Harry Mac drummers are ready.
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Post by southernblue on Dec 23, 2017 18:09:11 GMT
How we let him slip through our hands I will never know, a decision that may consign us to relegation and do untold damage to the club.
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Post by boughtonblue on Dec 23, 2017 19:16:20 GMT
How we let him slip through our hands I will never know, a decision that may consign us to relegation and do untold damage to the club. Jesus couldn't save this lot
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Post by grimsbyfan on Dec 23, 2017 19:17:40 GMT
Exactly the role I wanted him in for Chester, supporting a younger man for the longer term. Hopefully that younger man would have had a good working knowledge of local players i.e. from the north west and north wales. Maguire wanted Bignot, so let’s just wait and see. Couldn’t agree more. I heard last week from a reliable source that the Board had “made their mind up” before the interviews. Huge mistake missing out on GB. Bignot has not impressed at all, more comings and goings than Crewe Railway Station and, unlike others, I’ve not been impressed with performances - defending deep, no pattern going forward and some highly suspect selections and use of substitutions. I hope and pray we stay up, but I doubt it unfortunately. Hope I’m wrong, really do. I did warn you a month ago and got shot down...
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