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Post by dmcnally on Dec 22, 2017 13:25:37 GMT
...to link up with Kevin Davies at Southport as Assistant Manager.
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Post by Hannibal on Dec 22, 2017 13:28:00 GMT
Aren't they in enough sh1t?
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Post by dmcnally on Dec 22, 2017 13:29:05 GMT
Aren't they in enough sh1t? Hired to bring his experience of non-league and fitness approach apparently! |
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Post by Lobster on Dec 22, 2017 13:46:26 GMT
Surprised he would leave to be honest. Maybe a bit more money in an assistant role, but Southport seem to go through managers like they're going out of fashion.
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Post by Jack on Dec 22, 2017 13:50:39 GMT
Given he was part of their shortlist to get the job before Davies did, I assume he now realises that he'll never get a managerial role again unless he steps in again as 'caretaker'.
His legacy will stay with us for a long time, the decision to allow him to continue over summer was an absolute car-crash.
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Post by dmcnally on Dec 22, 2017 13:57:21 GMT
Surprised he would leave to be honest. Maybe a bit more money in an assistant role, but Southport seem to go through managers like they're going out of fashion. Nailed on for the job once Davies is eventually sacked. |
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Post by Lobster on Dec 22, 2017 13:58:47 GMT
On the positive side, maybe it's a new home for Liam Davies, Chappell etc?
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Post by Harry Lime on Dec 22, 2017 15:31:37 GMT
On the positive side, maybe it's a new home for Liam Davies, Chappell etc? Those were my thoughts too. It may benefit us that JMc is employed in the league below. Any of that lot we can clear out the better. For us and them. |
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Dec 22, 2017 15:43:48 GMT
Their board must be as hopeless as ours.
There's no justification for the awful decision not to sack him in May. No matter how they may try to explain it.
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Post by frenchy on Dec 22, 2017 17:50:04 GMT
They have terminated Gary Roberts contract
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Post by billyw on Dec 22, 2017 18:17:58 GMT
They have terminated Gary Roberts contract Stand by for posts saying we should be signing him |
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Post by Captain Duff on Dec 22, 2017 19:35:57 GMT
Their board must be as hopeless as ours. There's no justification for the awful decision not to sack him in May. No matter how they may try to explain it. Except for winning the last 3 games before May last year you mean, including a fantastic away win against soon to be promoted Grimsby? Add to that the fact that most people were happy with the summer signings (and without the benefit of hindsight) in my opinion it would have been odd to sack him at that point. |
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Post by dmcnally on Dec 22, 2017 19:40:40 GMT
Posted on Southport’s forum regarding our opinions of McCarthy from his time here;
“ALSO remember that Chester supporters are the probably the champions of negativity in the UK football world, we tend towards negativity but Chester leave us standing”
Ha!
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Post by Lobster on Dec 22, 2017 19:44:31 GMT
Their board must be as hopeless as ours. There's no justification for the awful decision not to sack him in May. No matter how they may try to explain it. Except for winning the last 3 games before May last year you mean, including a fantastic away win against soon to be promoted Grimsby? Add to that the fact that most people were happy with the summer signings (and without the benefit of hindsight) in my opinion it would have been odd to sack him at that point. I think you've missed out a whole season there! The three results in May 2016 were what got him the job, and that was fair enough. However, the run of results from January to May 2017 should have meant enough was enough. |
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Post by Deva Chanter on Dec 22, 2017 20:28:53 GMT
Except for winning the last 3 games before May last year you mean, including a fantastic away win against soon to be promoted Grimsby? Add to that the fact that most people were happy with the summer signings (and without the benefit of hindsight) in my opinion it would have been odd to sack him at that point. I think you've missed out a whole season there! The three results in May 2016 were what got him the job, and that was fair enough. However, the run of results from January to May 2017 should have meant enough was enough. Am I the only person who thinks that 3 results at the end of the season don't make it "fair enough" for him to have got the full-time gig? I seem to remember getting a lot of flack on the old DC for saying as much - still astounded that people backed that appointment in the circumstances. |
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Post by Little Blue Boy on Dec 22, 2017 20:31:32 GMT
Fitness approach? What's that then? Do they want to be the least fit squad in their league?
Will go down as one of the most damaging managers in our history. Complete and utter clown.
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Post by gezzer on Dec 22, 2017 20:38:55 GMT
The statement from Southport website includes:
"Jon brings a wealth of coaching and management experience at this level and above, and did an excellent job at Chester despite severe financial constraints and a policy of moving on his best players.
So there it is. Not his fault at all.LOL
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Post by Paul Da Part on Dec 22, 2017 20:40:05 GMT
I could think of many expletives to describe McCarthy. Has to go down as one of the worst managers in our history. Yet certain people in power still thought necessary to keep him in a job for 5 months too long, thus damaging the club.
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Post by dmcnally on Dec 22, 2017 20:41:58 GMT
The statement from Southport website includes: "Jon brings a wealth of coaching and management experience at this level and above, and did an excellent job at Chester despite severe financial constraints and a policy of moving on his best players. So there it is. Not his fault at all.LOL Not very comfortable with another club trying to make out the circumstances within our club. Who are they to know there was a “policy” to moving on our best players? |
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Post by lincolnexile on Dec 22, 2017 20:49:51 GMT
The statement from Southport website includes: "Jon brings a wealth of coaching and management experience at this level and above, and did an excellent job at Chester despite severe financial constraints and a policy of moving on his best players. So there it is. Not his fault at all.LOL Not very comfortable with another club trying to make out the circumstances within our club. Who are they to know there was a “policy” to moving on our best players? I’m guessing McCarthy told them about the financial restraints, moving on of players and how good he was. I’m surprised they didn’t mention the win at aldershot. |
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Dec 22, 2017 20:50:35 GMT
Their board must be as hopeless as ours. There's no justification for the awful decision not to sack him in May. No matter how they may try to explain it. Except for winning the last 3 games before May last year you mean, including a fantastic away win against soon to be promoted Grimsby? Add to that the fact that most people were happy with the summer signings (and without the benefit of hindsight) in my opinion it would have been odd to sack him at that point. Hang on, why are you bringing up three wins from back in 2016? It's what was happening in 2017 that bothered me. Awful argument Captain Duff, awful. We hadnt won a home game for several months and survived by the skin of our teeth so please explain why sacking him in May 2017 would have been 'odd'? |
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Post by lincolnexile on Dec 22, 2017 21:57:26 GMT
Except for winning the last 3 games before May last year you mean, including a fantastic away win against soon to be promoted Grimsby? Add to that the fact that most people were happy with the summer signings (and without the benefit of hindsight) in my opinion it would have been odd to sack him at that point. Hang on, why are you bringing up three wins from back in 2016? It's what was happening in 2017 that bothered me. Awful argument Captain Duff, awful. We hadnt won a home game for several months and survived by the skin of our teeth so please explain why sacking him in May 2017 would have been 'odd'? [br To be fair I think Captain Duff was referring to sacking in May 2016 rather than May 2017. When he took over from Burr and had his honeymoon period he looked a decent manager which eventually proved to be not the case. |
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Post by rcb on Dec 22, 2017 22:56:40 GMT
Their board must be as hopeless as ours. There's no justification for the awful decision not to sack him in May. No matter how they may try to explain it. Except for winning the last 3 games before May last year you mean, including a fantastic away win against soon to be promoted Grimsby? Add to that the fact that most people were happy with the summer signings (and without the benefit of hindsight) in my opinion it would have been odd to sack him at that point. Absolutely correct Bambi. You clearly mean May 2017, so why someone chooses to ignore a dreadful second half of last season and refer to a four game sequence twelve months earlier is odd. I thought there was no dispute in him getting the gig in May 2016. You on the Christmas grog a few days early Captain Duff? |
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Dec 22, 2017 23:40:49 GMT
Gosh we do go on
So once again many thanks to
The incompetence of our board who failed to act and make the blindingly obvious correct decision last April/ May.
It is this alone which has lead to the awful
Position our club finds itself in.
So let’s hope for a positive result at the shay.
And a merry Christmas to the board idiots
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Post by Lobster on Dec 23, 2017 12:31:11 GMT
I think you've missed out a whole season there! The three results in May 2016 were what got him the job, and that was fair enough. However, the run of results from January to May 2017 should have meant enough was enough. Am I the only person who thinks that 3 results at the end of the season don't make it "fair enough" for him to have got the full-time gig? I seem to remember getting a lot of flack on the old DC for saying as much - still astounded that people backed that appointment in the circumstances. In hindsight maybe you were right, although I seem to remember there weren't many exciting names linked with the job at the time. I think it's fair enough to give someone a chance, and it did seem to be working for half a season. Sadly it all went wrong and the board were probably a little hasty offering him a two and a half year contract, even though it didn't seem a bad idea at the time. Keeping him on over the summer and giving him the budget to spend though, that was a poor decision. His position wasn't tenable after the end of last season. |
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