Fans ownership

So it's just a disappointing 45 mins Jeez I've been exitino the Deva for over a year now utterly pissed off - I'm sorry but we need investment to even tread water

The fucking alternative to the Fans owned model is what exactly?
Where have you been for the last 20 odd years under private ownership. No fucking club was the answer .

Yes. Because people have incredably short memories. The fan owned model is not the problem the squandering of the budget by McCarthy on this total dross was. Macclesfield have a similar budget to us and the last time I looked they were top.

They are not fans owned and actually have a bigger budget than us - we only had a relatively decent budget due to the sale of Sam Hughes that's gone now decreasing crowds makes us so vulnerable because we have no investors we have no other option than to fall and fall hard - only hope is FA Trophy and with this shower can't see us progressing in that

This topic on fan-ownership always appears after a result like that. As someone said above, the ownership model isn't the problem - it's the decisions made by the current "vanguard" and, for me, the decisions made by previous board(s) running before we could walk. I said as much at the time we won the Evostik Prem, that we needed at least two seasons at Conference North to build the club off the field. Obviously you don't sulk at title wins but the incessant throwing money at a blitz through the leagues and the Jeff Banks vanity project meant we ran a world record 100m barely out of nappies and this is where that's left us - we have never been ready for this level ever since 2013 and that remains the case. Sadly, what's done is done but at least relegation may give us a chance to pause and restart at a more sustainable level, with more exciting fixtures IMO (Stockport, FCUM etc bringing 1,000 rather than Bromley, Woking and Boreham Wood bringing 10) and, you never know, with his own squad to assemble, if he's still here, Bignot might get us finally winning a couple of games.

With due diligence an investor may be found if not then fair enough - I once asked a question on here that if I won the European millions and wanted to invest a good sum it would have to be just a gift - in no seat on the board no say just continue to watch these clowns piss up my money - we have shut ourselves off from any possible investment with this model- Do you think Accrington Stanley would be where they are now as a fans run club- we are freefalling and will land somewhere around the Evostick

I would hazard a guess that not many football clubs make enough money to warrant ROI even the best run clubs. Without the Sky money most PL clubs would be bankrupt. Sir Fred, your optimism at staying in the Evo Stik is commendable. I fear that if we get relegated this season we will do a North Ferriby, Stockport, Altrincham etc and will find it extremely hard to climb the pyramid again.

With you SF was there when Reg Rowlands was on board, attended those games, get the history. Personally not a fan of fan owned as I find it too restrictive especially with our own fan base and even more so when choosing a Board with little or no experience of running a football club. In my other life I was retail manager. Saw many managers from other sectors come in claiming if you can manage you can manage anywhere, most didn't survive 6 months.

Midfield General I would love the Fans Run model to succeed and would be loathed to go back to shyster owners but unless we have a windfall from a Cup run like Exeter we have to except we are punching well above our weight and also accept lower division football we are smaller than York Stockport and Kidderminster and they are stuck in a void- our fan Base is shrinking and we will have to cut our cloth accordingly and it's a shame we will never see league football again unless as I originally said allowed investment in a part ownership model - but hey we are nevery going to agree here- All the best old boy

Agreed. Getting the right profile of player in the squad is huge. Some athletic and pacy, a couple of little fellas to pull the strings and some big bruisers at the back. That's how teams operate in the conference and they tend to do so with players under the age of 28 too.

We all were swept up by JM's summer signings, because they had a bit of experience. But now, when you look a bit closer, it's really clear to see where it has gone wrong.

Turnbull and James - Why did we need both of them? Same age, both coming down the hill of their career and both big earners.
Harry White - injury prone and neither fast nor good in the air.
Halls - Never a conference player in a million years, nothing athletic about him in the slightest.
McCombe - Should now be in his 3rd year of retirement.

Add this to the mix with Lynch and Astles (both with huge promise but overweight), Mahon (outstanding when fit but rarely so) and the absolute dross we re-signed like Chappell, Joyce, Davies etc and it's no wonder we are languishing.

I actually think of the players we signed this summer, LRT will prove to be the best. He's strong and athletic, if he was playing in a better team he'd do okay.

I don't think the club is doomed, but I do think we'll be relegated. We need to try our best to sweep the decks and use our money much more wisely next time in the North.

Sanctimonious arrogant person that you are. Just because someone expresses an opinion other than your blinkered views, so the insults start. 
Look at the history of Wrexham, and their fan base - they have always been a bigger club. By now, based on the three years to 2013, Chester should be enjoying home crowds close to 3000. Unfortunately the wasteful last three years has killed the club’s potential. I’m in the same camp as sir Fred. Those with alternative views appear hellbent on getting rid of as many fans and potential fans as possible. The right model resurrected the club, and gained three promotions. It is not the right model for THIS club in THIS league. It may be the right model again in two years time, and two leagues lower.
Sorry to offend you, but you have an attitude that invites such responses.