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Post by dc2cfc on Dec 26, 2017 17:33:51 GMT
Right, after today's result things have got to change ASAP. There is no point in letting it drag onto until the end of the season .. when shock we'll be in the Conference North First of all i'm afraid changes need to be made at the top with the 'Chairman' - Seriously what has he done ? Works in Marketing don't make me laugh - NEEDS TO GO - In terms of the board - New People need to be voted in - With Fresh Ideas, Actually progressing Ideas from the Fans (THE OWNERS) into the club.... - Communication - Needs a complete overall - Strong Leaders to take the club forward - WITH A VOICE - Actually develop a 5 Year Plan of how the club should be progressing season by season and aims for those 5 years.... Honestly I could go on...... Any thoughts ?
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Post by gone4eva on Dec 26, 2017 17:38:38 GMT
Nobody gives a shit anymore.
Board and senior staff and untouchable.
Just have to read this forum since the start. Too many low ambition easily led idiot fans who do not realise the long term damage being done. Top fans though so well done them.
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Post by Al on Dec 26, 2017 17:40:36 GMT
Chair and Vice Chair should walk tonight.
Board needs people to actually come up with a plan and see it through. It seems to be there are loads of chiefs but no Indians. Far too many people involved who do too much talking and don't back it up with their actions.
Chairman and his sidekick should NEVER have been reelected
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Post by gone4eva on Dec 26, 2017 17:42:39 GMT
Chair and Vice Chair should walk tonight. Board needs people to actually come up with a plan and see it through. It seems to be there are loads of chiefs but no Indians. Far too many people involved who do too much talking and don't back it up with their actions. Chairman and his sidekick should NEVER have been reelected If they do not resign it says a load about them.
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Post by shango on Dec 26, 2017 17:43:32 GMT
Whilst i tend to agree with what you say i just cant imagine an entire new regime being found,put in place and turning thing's around to save us from relegation.
A raft of change's is needed but finding those with skills to bring to the table and time to commit is a bit of a tough sell atm i reckon.
I'll still go when were in the conf north as it cant be any worse than watching this shatty league...never know,we might even be competitive.We'll be a perennial yoyo club IF were lucky.
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Post by tarvinblue on Dec 26, 2017 17:44:18 GMT
The lot of them are an embarassment. Not a spine amongst any of them. Mercenaries who have gotten themselves voted on to serve their own self interests - mainly sitting in comfy seats, chummying up to the manager and feeling important about themselves. I looked over before the match started as they took their seats - what a bunch they are. Good old Mark keeps them on his string though. What Mark says goes...
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Post by boughtonblue on Dec 26, 2017 17:47:39 GMT
Christ one relegation season and let's smash everything up! There are some right flappers about. This division is tough and we need to regroup in the division below.
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Dec 26, 2017 17:50:32 GMT
We've had chants of "you're not fit to wear the shirt".
More appropriate now would be "you're not fit to run our club".
They've presided over a disastrous campaign and have taken the club backwards.
They arrogantly ignored the vast majority of fans and allowed themselves to fall under a dreadful manager's spell. It was a decision that almost got us relegated last season, led to a competitive budget being wasted over the summer and has led to our demise before the New Year.
Managers are judged on results, boards are judged on decisions: Macca contract - wrong Failure to sack Macca - astoundingly wrong Bignot - I'm afraid to say also wrong
When clubs are badly run behind the scenes it always translates itself on the pitch. It's clear how bad things must now be. This CANNOT go on.
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Post by Djruss on Dec 26, 2017 17:54:59 GMT
The problem is this has been going on for a while......... the our club etc is a load of B****ks, Its their club, they are tighter than the Masons... no-one can touch them!!!!! The club is now a mess and they dont seem to give a hoot about it. The Chairman and his little gang are a joke. My fear is we are going back to the dark days. I sais all along we should never have gone up in the first season, it put too much pressure on the club, we should have missed out and built on it, the 5 year plan was 1-2 years far too ahead of itself. Yes it was nice winning etc but now its starting to show.... Sad to say we are nowhere as good as the league we are in with fans dropping off every week(me included) as much as I love the club Im not prepared to stand in a souless stadium in the freezing cold, paying to watch that rubbish, end of.... and Im sorry to say I for one wont be back until things change, and I mean change, on and off the pitch.... Shambles and not getting any better.....
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Post by gone4eva on Dec 26, 2017 18:00:14 GMT
Christ one relegation season and let's smash everything up! There are some right flappers about. This division is tough and we need to regroup in the division below. The likes of you are what is wrong. Low standards. Happy with dross running things.
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Post by dc2cfc on Dec 26, 2017 18:11:18 GMT
Whilst i tend to agree with what you say i just cant imagine an entire new regime being found,put in place and turning thing's around to save us from relegation. A raft of change's is needed but finding those with skills to bring to the table and time to commit is a bit of a tough sell atm i reckon. I'll still go when were in the conf north as it cant be any worse than watching this shatty league...never know,we might even be competitive.We'll be a perennial yoyo club IF were lucky. To be honest, its hard to say it but were going to be relegated this season. I just want the club to be totally re-organised in preparation for the Conference North. We can't be going into the new season on the back foot with all these things 'potentially happening' just like the CFU Board Portfolio Allocation (Which got announced in November) - Have we heard anything since ? have we bollocks
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Post by rcb on Dec 26, 2017 18:36:33 GMT
Lots done wrong before May 2016, but at least we stayed in the National League and had a record pot in the bank. The club as we know it was in a savable situation. Unfortunately the ridiculous power given to Maguire has well and truly destroyed the club. Allowing McCarthy to stay and spend the pot in its entirety has put an end to any dreams I had, along with countless others. There are several subscribers on this site who have blindly followed and supported Maguire and McCarthy, and in the process have been vile in their criticism and contempt for anyone voicing concern. FFS. “Owners my arse”. £12 a year and we get the repeated nonsense about how they are owners of a full-time professional football club at level five in the national pyramid. No doubt I will now get the pathetic “if you can do any better nonsense” from them in response. No wonder supporters have deserted in large numbers. In 2010 there was an honesty and decency about what was then a Phoenix club. Everyone was welcome and equal. Chris Pilsbury and Grenville Millington both good men. The club developed and the fan owned model no longer fitted in its original simple mode. The charlatan that is Maguire saw the weaknesses and slotted himself in. The end.
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Post by Ian H Block on Dec 26, 2017 18:55:45 GMT
Maguire has got to go. Can anybody tell me what actually does to justify a wage?
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Post by boughtonblue on Dec 26, 2017 18:56:14 GMT
Christ one relegation season and let's smash everything up! There are some right flappers about. This division is tough and we need to regroup in the division below. The likes of you are what is wrong. Low standards. Happy with dross running things. I suppose the old Vaughan sycophants are rubbing their hands at the thought of a fan owned club being relegated? There seems a totally unrealistic expectancy about where we should be in the football pyramid. If the angry mob have such high standards let them show there faces at a CFU meeting. My guess is they are gutless keyboard warriors.
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Post by g1 on Dec 26, 2017 19:18:17 GMT
Maguire has got to go. Can anybody tell me what actually does to justify a wage? tell you what he's done in football ruined hull ruined Stockport ruining us he's been involved in every big decision that has ruined this club from giving Mr burns the job to extended contract to keeping him to piss the budget up the wall also can't get a home shirt in the shop who was that down to see a pattern
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2017 19:34:49 GMT
Maguire has got to go. Can anybody tell me what actually does to justify a wage? tell you what he's done in football ruined hull ruined Stockport ruining us he's been involved in every big decision that has ruined this club from giving Mr burns the job to extended contract to keeping him to piss the budget up the wall also can't get a home shirt in the shop who was that down to see a pattern Cant comment on Hull and Stockport, but the board gave McCarthy and Bignot the job. At most he would have been part of a 3 person panel. He would have no part in any sacking. Tracy Wainwright ordered the kit and signed the new deal with Puma. Those are the facts. Bend them into whatever narrative suits you.
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Post by Mean Machine on Dec 26, 2017 19:36:02 GMT
Announced before kick off NO match sponsor NO match ball sponsor NO programe sponsor Whose job is it to obtain this sponsorship ? Why have they not obtained any of this sponsorship Do we have anyone whose job it is to obtain sposorship ? IF not why not ? When did we see any new advertisment boards go up around the ground ? As i stand in the Harry Mac I cant see if any new boards have appeared on the front wall, but i very much doubt it. How are we surposed to compete in an increasingly professional league if we cant do basic selling of advetising space around the ground When we moved to Macclesfield the reported cost of lost revenue from lost advertising was £40,000 That was back in 1990 How much are we loosing today from not selling advertising and sponsorship ?
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Post by tarvinblue on Dec 26, 2017 19:41:00 GMT
Announced before kick off NO match sponsor NO match ball sponsor NO programe sponsor Whose job is it to obtain this sponsorship ? Why have they not obtained any of this sponsorship Do we have anyone whose job it is to obtain sposorship ? IF not why not ? When did we see any new advertisment boards go up around the ground ? As i stand in the Harry Mac I cant see if any new boards have appeared on the front wall, but i very much doubt it. How are we surposed to compete in an increasingly professional league if we cant do basic selling of advetising space around the ground When we moved to Macclesfield the reported cost of lost revenue from lost advertising was £40,000 That was back in 1990 How much are we loosing today from not selling advertising and sponsorship ? Isn't it Maguires? Shocking that we can't sell any sponsorship for a Boxing Day fixture.
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Post by gone4eva on Dec 26, 2017 19:58:29 GMT
The likes of you are what is wrong. Low standards. Happy with dross running things. I suppose the old Vaughan sycophants are rubbing their hands at the thought of a fan owned club being relegated? There seems a totally unrealistic expectancy about where we should be in the football pyramid. If the angry mob have such high standards let them show there faces at a CFU meeting. My guess is they are gutless keyboard warriors. If people are happy they would stay silent and support the board. Are you admitting you are a vaughnite?
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Post by boughtonblue on Dec 26, 2017 20:12:54 GMT
I suppose the old Vaughan sycophants are rubbing their hands at the thought of a fan owned club being relegated? There seems a totally unrealistic expectancy about where we should be in the football pyramid. If the angry mob have such high standards let them show there faces at a CFU meeting. My guess is they are gutless keyboard warriors. If people are happy they would stay silent and support the board. Are you admitting you are a vaughnite? If you support of private ownership you are clearly happy with the likes of Vaughan getting their hands on us again.
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Post by gone4eva on Dec 26, 2017 20:22:13 GMT
If people are happy they would stay silent and support the board. Are you admitting you are a vaughnite? If you support of private ownership you are clearly happy with the likes of Vaughan getting their hands on us again. Search my posts and you can see my position clearly - 100% supportive of fans ownership 10000% against idiots like yourself who equate saying the anti-board = against fan ownership Are you an actual thicko or is it political to try and cloud the issue?
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Post by boughtonblue on Dec 26, 2017 21:05:22 GMT
If you support of private ownership you are clearly happy with the likes of Vaughan getting their hands on us again. Search my posts and you can see my position clearly - 100% supportive of fans ownership 10000% against idiots like yourself who equate saying the anti-board = against fan ownership Are you an actual thicko or is it political to try and cloud the issue? [br Lol, give your head a wobble. It's easy to be anti board and offer nothing yourself. They are bleeding volunteers, keyboard warriors like yourself offer nothing constructive and get all angry and arsey everytime it's pointed out. We are a small club, always have been. Sometimes we overachieved, sometimes we underachieve. Obviously mistakes have been made and there is room for improvement but Kneejerk nobheads like yourselves offer nothing.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Dec 26, 2017 21:14:23 GMT
Won't make a blind bit of difference to the teams fortunes on the pitch, unless any new board members are Conference-standard football players and vote to play themselves...
In any case, two or three of the current board who are, rightly, getting the most flak on here were re-elected quite comfortably at the recent AGM so we, as fans, only have ourselves to blame in that respect.
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Post by Harry Lime on Dec 26, 2017 21:17:25 GMT
I would suggest a change to our AGM and board election timetables.
Currently we do this in November to fit in with financial time periods. That means that new boasts members come in part way through a season after all the decisions for that season have been made. That probably adds to their lack of effectiveness.
This should take place in February or March. That way they could put their mark on the club quicker. They could work March and April to put things in place for the close season and the new season ahead. Including decisions on Managerial appointments, player contracts, budgets etc.
Another season with the current lot could be a lot more damaging than JMc, MB or any manager.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Dec 26, 2017 21:22:34 GMT
Christ one relegation season and let's smash everything up! There are some right flappers about. This division is tough and we need to regroup in the division below. Absolute garbage. Most of us have lived through dark miserable times following us. That is why when an incompetent board and the powers that be through stupidity have left us in this awful scenario. I personally find it gut wrenching and particularly difficult to take as it was entirely avoidable. Yes of course we can re group but this whole scenario has lost over 1/4 Home crowd numbers. And this awful invincible elite who are a law to themselves absolute shambles.
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Post by boughtonblue on Dec 26, 2017 21:27:25 GMT
Christ one relegation season and let's smash everything up! There are some right flappers about. This division is tough and we need to regroup in the division below. Absolute garbage. Most of us have lived through dark miserable times following us. That is why when an incompetent board and the powers that be through stupidity have left us in this awful scenario. I personally find it gut wrenching and particularly difficult to take as it was entirely avoidable. Yes of course we can re group but this whole scenario has lost over 1/4 Home crowd numbers. And this awful invincible elite who are a law to themselves absolute shambles. The gates going down when we are struggling is nothing new as you will know if you have been following this club as long as you say. Obviously it hurts, I feel it just as much as anyone else. But all this talk of invincible elites is a bit brexity! We all know where that is bleeding leading.
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Post by gone4eva on Dec 26, 2017 21:44:04 GMT
Search my posts and you can see my position clearly - 100% supportive of fans ownership 10000% against idiots like yourself who equate saying the anti-board = against fan ownership Are you an actual thicko or is it political to try and cloud the issue? [br Lol, give your head a wobble. It's easy to be anti board and offer nothing yourself. They are bleeding volunteers, keyboard warriors like yourself offer nothing constructive and get all angry and arsey everytime it's pointed out. We are a small club, always have been. Sometimes we overachieved, sometimes we underachieve. Obviously mistakes have been made and there is room for improvement but Kneejerk nobheads like yourselves offer nothing. Ah sorry all is fine they are volunteers. As a board defender can you outline the mistakes made and where the assessment has been made over them, and point to any board docs showing the process that are public? I keep asking for links for them but they never get posted up. Ps. Thanks for the abuse. Really helps give weight to your view.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Dec 26, 2017 21:52:41 GMT
I’ve followed us for 30 years. I remember there being a culture within the old ISA and that awful them and us type scenarios. I have given up on this season. There are other threads suggesting we need to start building for next season in the north now. That’s probably a good call as we need to assemble competitively and not just whatever we can attract. Let’s hooe this step backwards ultimately takes us forward in the long run.
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Post by Maravilla on Dec 26, 2017 21:56:38 GMT
[br Lol, give your head a wobble. It's easy to be anti board and offer nothing yourself. They are bleeding volunteers, keyboard warriors like yourself offer nothing constructive and get all angry and arsey everytime it's pointed out. We are a small club, always have been. Sometimes we overachieved, sometimes we underachieve. Obviously mistakes have been made and there is room for improvement but Kneejerk nobheads like yourselves offer nothing. Ah sorry all is fine they are volunteers. As a board defender can you outline the mistakes made and where the assessment has been made over them, and point to any board docs showing the process that are public? I keep asking for links for them but they never get posted up. Ps. Thanks for the abuse. Really helps give weight to your view. All related documents for the CFU board can be found at the following link: CFU Board Documents
Leaves a lot to be desired, but understand there is some work going on on this front from the Governance group.
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Post by boughtonblue on Dec 26, 2017 21:59:57 GMT
[br Lol, give your head a wobble. It's easy to be anti board and offer nothing yourself. They are bleeding volunteers, keyboard warriors like yourself offer nothing constructive and get all angry and arsey everytime it's pointed out. We are a small club, always have been. Sometimes we overachieved, sometimes we underachieve. Obviously mistakes have been made and there is room for improvement but Kneejerk nobheads like yourselves offer nothing. Ah sorry all is fine they are volunteers. As a board defender can you outline the mistakes made and where the assessment has been made over them, and point to any board docs showing the process that are public? I keep asking for links for them but they never get posted up. Ps. Thanks for the abuse. Really helps give weight to your view. Have you contacted CFU or just posted on here?
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