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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2017 19:41:56 GMT
Who will our white knight be?
Obviously without supporter ownership we would now have been in the Championship in a 20000 all seater ground with Subways on every level and David Nugent playing up front.
We need that person with a mahoosive amount of coin to burn, and who will never want anything in return for it. Who will it be?
Over to you.
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Post by Paul Da Part on Dec 26, 2017 19:48:23 GMT
Donald Trump is the most likely. Bloke hasn’t got any sense after all.
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Post by richard on Dec 26, 2017 19:48:55 GMT
Who will our white knight be? Obviously without supporter ownership we would now have been in the Championship in a 20000 all seater ground with Subways on every level and David Nugent playing up front. We need that person with a mahoosive amount of coin to burn, and who will never want anything in return for it. Who will it be? Over to you. Simple answer is nobody Mark. What we have is not without issues and we can all see that. But for me it is something to be cherished, even through the bad times. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2017 20:25:08 GMT
Who will our white knight be? Obviously without supporter ownership we would now have been in the Championship in a 20000 all seater ground with Subways on every level and David Nugent playing up front. We need that person with a mahoosive amount of coin to burn, and who will never want anything in return for it. Who will it be? Over to you. Simple answer is nobody Mark. What we have is not without issues and we can all see that. But for me it is something to be cherished, even through the bad times. I know that Richard. Better than most. |
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Post by gone4eva on Dec 26, 2017 20:29:02 GMT
Shit thread.
People blaming board and now people try to equate that with wanting to change ownership models.
Either calculated moves or people are thick. Either are embarassingly bad to be doing.
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Post by Al on Dec 26, 2017 20:40:52 GMT
Fan ownership is the only way forward but we must have a board who work better than this lot.
They've failed, in particular those who have served more than this term, to progress us as a club.
The fact we are sat here 7 years on and STILL unhappy about the lack of communication from the board is beyond a joke, it is downright scandalous
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2017 20:48:55 GMT
Shit thread. People blaming board and now people try to equate that with wanting to change ownership models. Either calculated moves or people are thick. Either are embarassingly bad to be doing. Nah mate, people all over claiming fan ownership is stunting the growth of the club. Not true. Fan ownership is why we are what we are. The current board is why we are in the shit state we are. |
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Post by Al on Dec 26, 2017 20:51:48 GMT
Shit thread. People blaming board and now people try to equate that with wanting to change ownership models. Either calculated moves or people are thick. Either are embarassingly bad to be doing. Nah mate, people all over claiming fan ownership is stunting the growth of the club. Not true. Fan ownership is why we are what we are. The current board is why we are in the shit state we are. I'd question also just what an Ops board has brought to the table since its introduction tbh. It was meant to make us more professional an operation but if anything it feels even less professional than we were when we were almost entirely ran by volunteers |
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Post by g1 on Dec 26, 2017 22:18:28 GMT
Who in there right mind would buy it
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Post by wittonwonder on Dec 26, 2017 22:25:47 GMT
Obviously Mr Warren would have do it through his minions, again, AND divert funds from Southport......
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Post by scott on Dec 28, 2017 15:41:31 GMT
And what do we do when this millionaire comes along decides hes not pumping money into the club reduces the budget and we struggle against relegation? Its ok saying lets sell the club but what guarantee is there that all of sudden we will have sell out games, top the league buying any player we want?
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Post by agl on Dec 28, 2017 16:29:28 GMT
Shit thread. People blaming board and now people try to equate that with wanting to change ownership models. Either calculated moves or people are thick. Either are embarassingly bad to be doing. Nah mate, people all over claiming fan ownership is stunting the growth of the club. Not true. Fan ownership is why we are what we are. The current board is why we are in the shit state we are. OK, so let's envisage a scenario where the current board walk away en masse. What happens if no-one steps up to replace them, or you get a few hot heads who get elected by default and for all their good ideas are incapable of compromise or working as a team. Where does that leave the fan-owned model? Looks like the board has become the easy target for the on field ills. I agree that the current crop isn't the best we've had but the fact is that if we were winning a few games, as we did during the tenure of previous boards who made mistakes no-one would really give a toss. Do you think any sane person reading this forum and some of the bile that's spewed would want to give up their time? Depressingly it's the same people, with the same views posting variations on a theme time and time again. No-one can be happy with what's going on but there needs to be some restraint. |
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Post by everhopeful on Dec 28, 2017 16:35:29 GMT
Nah mate, people all over claiming fan ownership is stunting the growth of the club. Not true. Fan ownership is why we are what we are. The current board is why we are in the shit state we are. OK, so let's envisage a scenario where the current board walk away en masse. What happens if no-one steps up to replace them, or you get a few hot heads who get elected by default and for all their good ideas are incapable of compromise or working as a team. Where does that leave the fan-owned model? Looks like the board has become the easy target for the on field ills. I agree that the current crop isn't the best we've had but the fact is that if we were winning a few games, as we did during the tenure of previous boards who made mistakes no-one would really give a toss. Do you think any sane person reading this forum and some of the bile that's spewed would want to give up their time? Depressingly it's the same people, with the same views posting variations on a theme time and time again. No-one can be happy with what's going on but there needs to be some restraint. Perhaps we should ask the board members why true supporters of the club (OUR club) were driven away after helping restart it? People like Gren Millington who would bleed blue and white if you cut him! |
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Post by MPW on Dec 28, 2017 23:24:24 GMT
People need a bit of reality check. There are no billionaire Sheiks, Russian oil magnets or millionaire businessmen or ex-footballers willing to buy a club our size that has no real assets.
Our fan owned model means that our future is in our own hands and should be sustainable to ensure that we have a club to support for future generations. I think there will always be minority of fans who won’t accept this model regardless of how well it’s being run. But anyone can have a chance to do their bit to help.
Whilst I think a lot of good work off the pitch has been overshadowed by the performances on the pitch or even taken for granted, the club could and should always be doing more. We should strive to explore every avenue of possible revenue and good communication with the fan base is fundamental.
What we need now is stability off the pitch and for everyone to stick together. Relegation wouldnt be the end of the World, but we must ensure that the decline stops there and we all work harder than ever to regroup and come back stronger than ever.
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Post by everhopeful on Dec 28, 2017 23:28:48 GMT
People need a bit of reality check. There are no billionaire Sheiks, Russian oil magnets or millionaire businessmen or ex-footballers willing to buy a club our size that has no real assets. Our fan owned model means that our future is in our own hands and should be sustainable to ensure that we have a club to support for future generations. I think there will always be minority of fans who won’t accept this model regardless of how well it’s being run. But anyone can have a chance to do their bit to help. Whilst I think a lot of good work off the pitch has been overshadowed by the performances on the pitch or even taken for granted, the club could and should always be doing more. We should strive to explore every avenue of possible revenue and good communication with the fan base is fundamental. What we need now is stability off the pitch and for everyone to stick together. Relegation wouldnt be the end of the World, but we must ensure that the decline stops there and we all work harder than ever to regroup and come back stronger than ever. What, like Southport, who are now facing another relegation?! |
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Post by MPW on Dec 28, 2017 23:51:46 GMT
People need a bit of reality check. There are no billionaire Sheiks, Russian oil magnets or millionaire businessmen or ex-footballers willing to buy a club our size that has no real assets. Our fan owned model means that our future is in our own hands and should be sustainable to ensure that we have a club to support for future generations. I think there will always be minority of fans who won’t accept this model regardless of how well it’s being run. But anyone can have a chance to do their bit to help. Whilst I think a lot of good work off the pitch has been overshadowed by the performances on the pitch or even taken for granted, the club could and should always be doing more. We should strive to explore every avenue of possible revenue and good communication with the fan base is fundamental. What we need now is stability off the pitch and for everyone to stick together. Relegation wouldnt be the end of the World, but we must ensure that the decline stops there and we all work harder than ever to regroup and come back stronger than ever. What, like Southport, who are now facing another relegation?! Exactly! It worries me that clubs like Southport, Ferriby, Alty have all struggled so much following relegation. We need to make sure that doesn’t happen to us. |
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Post by marner93 on Dec 29, 2017 0:00:35 GMT
If we go down, we're fucked, we won't be steam rolling the pub teams, they'll be smashing us. As for who'd buy this club, no one. What is there to buy?
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Post by Charfield Blue on Dec 29, 2017 7:55:07 GMT
I think the major issue with our current setup is that we only ever hear from Mark Maguire who is a paid member of staff. Therefore it feels no different than any other non fan owned football club. We have lost that personal touch that comes from the main focal point being an elected fellow supporter. Mark was employed to take on the day to day duties that were proving too much for elected volunteers, but it feels that now that appointment has been made, I am sure that it was the right decision, our elected representatives have taken a step back from the communication side of things. We lack true fan leadership. We need to get this back and quickly.
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Post by superman on Dec 29, 2017 9:57:58 GMT
Spot on Charfield, my thoughts exactly.
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Post by The Angry Agenda on Dec 29, 2017 11:41:01 GMT
Just out of interest, say someone did come along with an offer to buy the club, would CFU members decide wether they wanted the club to remain fan owned, or would the board simply
not even listen to offers, because giving up fan ownership is totally against what the club stands for. Also if CFU members were to decide, would the interested party, have direct
access to CFU members to be able to highlight their bid and their plans for the club long term ?
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Post by MPW on Dec 29, 2017 12:07:18 GMT
Just out of interest, say someone did come along with an offer to buy the club, would CFU members decide wether they wanted the club to remain fan owned, or would the board simply not even listen to offers, because giving up fan ownership is totally against what the club stands for. Also if CFU members were to decide, would the interested party, have direct access to CFU members to be able to highlight their bid and their plans for the club long term ? Surely they would have to listen to any sensible offers and put it to the members. |
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Post by superman on Dec 29, 2017 13:31:11 GMT
Wonder what would be the reaction if a football experienced based consortium of ex Chester associates, say the Owen family, Kevin Ratcliffe, and Ian Rush, backed by a well respected local business man or woman, put in an offer to take 51 percent share. Names just plucked out of the air, but an interesting scenario perhaps.
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Post by Captain Duff on Dec 29, 2017 14:53:31 GMT
Wonder what would be the reaction if a football experienced based consortium of ex Chester associates, say the Owen family, Kevin Ratcliffe, and Ian Rush, backed by a well respected local business man or woman, put in an offer to take 51 percent share. Names just plucked out of the air, but an interesting scenario perhaps. Which hasn't happened of course. But there can be no selling of shares, we don't have shares, only members with one vote each. Therefore private ownership, even with some CFU presence on a new board, would require the winding up and dissolution of the current club, which in turn could only happen under this rule: 107. The Club may be dissolved by the consent of three-quarters of the members who sign an instrument of dissolution in the form provided by the Registrar or by winding-up in the manner provided by the Act. I'm very happy to have investment from any of the names you mention, I'm sure that if it was large enough something could be named after them after all. |
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Post by Si on Dec 29, 2017 16:29:50 GMT
Bumper jackpot on Euromillions tonight folks, get on it.
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Post by Mean Machine on Dec 29, 2017 19:46:50 GMT
Wonder what would be the reaction if a football experienced based consortium of ex Chester associates, say the Owen family, Kevin Ratcliffe, and Ian Rush, backed by a well respected local business man or woman, put in an offer to take 51 percent share. Names just plucked out of the air, but an interesting scenario perhaps. Which hasn't happened of course. But there can be no selling of shares, we don't have shares, only members with one vote each. Therefore private ownership, even with some CFU presence on a new board, would require the winding up and dissolution of the current club, which in turn could only happen under this rule: 107. The Club may be dissolved by the consent of three-quarters of the members who sign an instrument of dissolution in the form provided by the Registrar or by winding-up in the manner provided by the Act. I'm very happy to have investment from any of the names you mention, I'm sure that if it was large enough something could be named after them after all. I appreciate this is all hypothetical but, as I understand it, if the current club were to be dissolved or wound up to allow new owners, then the new owners would be forming a new club Would I then be right in thinking FA rules prevent the new club taking over the old clubs fixtures and indeed its place in the football pyramid We would therefore have to start from scratch again |
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Post by gezzer on Dec 29, 2017 20:02:18 GMT
Serious question: What are our finances like now? Surely the rainy day fund has taken a hit, all the Sam Hughes money has been spent or allocated. Next season if/when we are in CN we still have players contracted on NL level wages, paid employees on Ops Board who are contracted, supporters expecting big cuts to gate prices, probably sponsors moving out due to relegation, etc.
Are we in a situation that we can borrow money from a bank?
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Dec 29, 2017 21:13:29 GMT
Wonder what would be the reaction if a football experienced based consortium of ex Chester associates, say the Owen family, Kevin Ratcliffe, and Ian Rush, backed by a well respected local business man or woman, put in an offer to take 51 percent share. Names just plucked out of the air, but an interesting scenario perhaps. All hypothetical. What if a billionaire Martian crashed its ship at the Deva and the current board took it in, gave it a home for a bit and John Needham mended its ship good as new for the return journey and the Martian decided to repay the club by investing its entire wealth in exchange for a 51% stake in the club? As someone said above, if anybody wants to invest hundreds of thousands or however many million that's fine - we'll name a stand after them, keep CFU aa sole 100% owners and that's the end of the matter. |
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Post by Lobster on Dec 31, 2017 10:57:32 GMT
Donald Trump is the most likely. Bloke hasn’t got any sense after all. We're gonna build a defence, and Wrexham are gonna pay for it! |
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