rcm
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Post by rcm on Dec 26, 2017 22:20:53 GMT
When things are going as bad on the pitch as they are now, is when you need leadership.From my position i am not seeing any at the club,from the board,the managers confidence is draining from him every time he is in front of the camera,on the pitch there is none from what i can see. I've worked in crisis management in my profesion and the amongst some of the things you need are a plan, to manage peoples expectations and someone to lead the team and deliver the targets/objectives.I dont see anything of this at the club.our plan was appoint the new manager,get a little bit of extra cash and its all sorted,this is a plan based mainly on luck,reality is/was the squad was always going to mainly stay the same,we can clearly see the standard we have isnt good enough.For me we need someone who can lead the club to taking a step back for the 2nd half of the season assess and then create a 5 year plan across all areas of the club,break it down in to season by season objectives,measure and report progress per quarter.if there are any failings report them and understand why they failed,address it and go again.
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Post by gone4eva on Dec 26, 2017 23:00:04 GMT
.For me we need someone who can lead the club to taking a step back for the 2nd half of the season assess and then create a 5 year plan across all areas of the club,break it down in to season by season objectives,measure and report progress per quarter.if there are any failings report them and understand why they failed,address it and go again. I agree, but would also ask how the board have been assessing things without such a system. There is nothing.
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Post by trev on Dec 27, 2017 0:33:11 GMT
The lack of leadership is chronic and just when the club needs to be galvanised for a potentially nightmare second half of the season . The board is faceless, relying on the nice Mr Maguire when needed, to provide the soothing although ultimately empty words. My immediate suggestions would be to ask Simon Olleronshaw back on to the Board (if he will come back) as he seemed to know what he was doing last time and has recently offered help; The board to elect an unfortunate to act its spokesperson and commit to communicating with the fans on a weekly basis on a variety of platforms; and publish a credible "emergency" action plan (to be acted on) which sets out some priorities with achievable objectives that clearly identifies those Board Members responsible for specific areas of work and the requirement for regular feedback. This may help with the current malaise , perceived or otherwise, and at least provide some optimism in the short term that something is actually being done and the club isn’t rudderless as it now appears. Clearly a much more fundamental internal review is required and should take place as soon as our fate is confirmed, and include (if possible) an independent overview of the Clubs financial position, the boards performance, and an assessment of all paid employees . A suitable summary of this review should then be published on the CFU website within a month.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 10:10:42 GMT
Completely agree with the top post and more above, we do need a plan.
Agree with Simon, and we also desperately need Jeff Banks back. Jeff isnt just a mouthpiece but worked very hard to organise visitors, legends and to generally make match days better all around.
Committees need reintroducing, particularly the fundraising one. And they need to be trusted to carry out their plans, given social media time etc.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Dec 27, 2017 10:29:39 GMT
The lack of leadership is chronic and just when the club needs to be galvanised for a potentially nightmare second half of the season . The board is faceless, relying on the nice Mr Maguire when needed, to provide the soothing although ultimately empty words. My immediate suggestions would be to ask Simon Olleronshaw back on to the Board (if he will come back) as he seemed to know what he was doing last time and has recently offered help; The board to elect an unfortunate to act its spokesperson and commit to communicating with the fans on a weekly basis on a variety of platforms; and publish a credible "emergency" action plan (to be acted on) which sets out some priorities with achievable objectives that clearly identifies those Board Members responsible for specific areas of work and the requirement for regular feedback. This may help with the current malaise , perceived or otherwise, and at least provide some optimism in the short term that something is actually being done and the club isn’t rudderless as it now appears. Clearly a much more fundamental internal review is required and should take place as soon as our fate is confirmed, and include (if possible) an independent overview of the Clubs financial position, the boards performance, and an assessment of all paid employees . A suitable summary of this review should then be published on the CFU website within a month. Completely agree with this and I have made similar points, in another thread. A meeting of minds possibly?
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Post by Simon O on Dec 27, 2017 12:41:57 GMT
With our Constitution it's fundamentally all about accountability.
The players are accountable to the manager. The manager is accountable to the CEO The CEO is accountable to the Operations Board The Operations Board is accountable to the CFU Board The CFU Board is accountable to the owners And the owners are accountable to the wider fan base
Once any of those vital links are broken there will be an inevitable break down in the model, time to reflect and mend the links.
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Post by Hannibal on Dec 27, 2017 12:46:29 GMT
With our Constitution it's fundamentally all about accountability. The players are accountable to the manager. The manager is accountable to the CEO The CEO is accountable to the Operations Board The Operations Board is accountable to the CFU Board The CFU Board is accountable to the owners And the owners are accountable to the wider fan base Once any of those vital links are broken there will be an inevitable break down in the model, time to reflect and mend the links. Thanks Simon. The model would appear to have been broken at the 5th level you indicated.
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Post by trev on Dec 27, 2017 13:20:18 GMT
With our Constitution it's fundamentally all about accountability. The players are accountable to the manager. The manager is accountable to the CEO The CEO is accountable to the Operations Board The Operations Board is accountable to the CFU Board The CFU Board is accountable to the owners And the owners are accountable to the wider fan base Once any of those vital links are broken there will be an inevitable break down in the model, time to reflect and mend the links. Thanks Simon. The model would appear to have been broken at the 5th level you indicated. I also have doubts about what happens at level 4.
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Post by embalmer on Dec 27, 2017 20:46:20 GMT
Thanks Simon. The model would appear to have been broken at the 5th level you indicated. I also have doubts about what happens at level 4. From what I've heard, that link is very much broken too. Ops Board completely rules an apathetic and out of touch full board who are a bunch of nodding dogs with one notable exception.
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Post by Cestrian For Life on Dec 27, 2017 21:08:01 GMT
I do believe that we desperately need a figurehead. I don't personally dislike MM, he seems really approachable and capable in a certain capacity but according to the above, he is only Level 3 and is accountable to many others. Those others are invisible and I have no idea who they are. Somebody needs to grab the bull by the horns.
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Post by Hannibal on Dec 27, 2017 21:25:49 GMT
I also have doubts about what happens at level 4. From what I've heard, that link is very much broken too. Ops Board completely rules an apathetic and out of touch full board who are a bunch of nodding dogs with one notable exception. Who would that be?
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Post by embalmer on Dec 28, 2017 0:16:15 GMT
From what I've heard, that link is very much broken too. Ops Board completely rules an apathetic and out of touch full board who are a bunch of nodding dogs with one notable exception. Who would that be? David O'Toole - the only one on there willing to challenge the old guard.
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Post by Hannibal on Dec 28, 2017 7:11:37 GMT
David O'Toole - the only one on there willing to challenge the old guard. Never heard of him. Is that a made up name?
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Post by Al on Dec 28, 2017 7:27:13 GMT
David O'Toole - the only one on there willing to challenge the old guard. Never heard of him. Is that a made up name? He's a board member. Was co-opted around the time I went for co-option then stood for election at the AGM and was voted onto the board
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Post by billyw on Dec 28, 2017 7:53:00 GMT
There is a letter in today's Chronicle from Simon Olorenshaw asking fans to back the Board. Perhaps someone more tech savvy than me can put it in here.
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Post by Captain Duff on Dec 28, 2017 9:24:31 GMT
There is a letter in today's Chronicle from Simon Olorenshaw asking fans to back the Board. Perhaps someone more tech savvy than me can put it in here. My reading of it was that he was that he was saying that despite some very good off field progress this year for some things, the current board needs shaking up, how else to explain his offer to step on board again to help out - open letter
We need something like this, an individual who is willing to do something that others can then rally around. In most clubs the CEO is largely invisible and working in the background and the chairman everywhere and being the public face of the club. That used to be the case with us too, but we have been badly let down by our current elected leaders who have not been publicly active nearly enough which has led to a situation where Maguire has I feel had to step into the vacuum. If we now have people that are willing to step up (or make a come back) then it is time for an EGM and for them to go.
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Post by superman on Dec 28, 2017 9:57:24 GMT
Well done to Simon Ollorenshaw for once again offering his services, he has the leadership skills that are needed to make a difference. There is a saying too many Chiefs and not enough Indians, in the case of our current board perhaps it is a case of too many Indians and no Chief. Let's hope the current board are savvy enough to take up Simon's offer and appoint him as an advisor who can help solve problems and remove road blocks in a timely fashion. I would also like to see appointment of a club President, someone the supporters can identify with and who is vocal enough and visible in a positive way and who can bang the drum and rally the fans. I don't know what the relationship between the club and Grenville Millington is like now or the real reasons behind his departure, but he seems to have most of the required qualities to fulfilling that role.
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Post by Si on Dec 28, 2017 10:02:14 GMT
Well done to Simon Ollorenshaw for once again offering his services, he has the leadership skills that are needed to make a difference. There is a saying too many Chiefs and not enough Indians, in the case of our current board perhaps it is a case of too many Indians and no Chief. Let's hope the current board are savvy enough to take up Simon's offer and appoint him as an advisor who can help solve problems and remove road blocks in a timely fashion. I would also like to see appointment of a club President, someone the supporters can identify with and who is vocal enough and visible in a positive way and who can bang the drum and rally the fans. I don't know what the relationship between the club and Grenville Millington is like now or the real reasons behind his departure, but he seems to have most of the required qualities to fulfilling that role. Grenville is probably still trying to figure out the DNA. Simon would be a great person to have back behind the scenes but we also need fresh board members with the drive to get things done....not sure how many people there are willing to give up their time though.
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Post by Al on Dec 28, 2017 10:13:42 GMT
I agree with part of what Simon says, all bar getting behind this board.
All some of these elected officials of the CFU have done is hide behind Maguire. We've a Chairman who basically called himself 'Mr Marketing', runs in his blood yet has delivered nothing. We've a Vice-Chair who I still don't know what he is supposed to do? I think he takes questions for CFU Meetings via email and passes them on at the meetings?
We've other board members who have remained silent throughout, we've seen the Cestrian10 Debacle, the McCarthy contract extension, the spending of the Sam Hughes money on crap, a complete lack of strategy from the board regards advertising and marketing, oh bar the rushed 'Gamemakers' rubbish that we had the other week. Oh and the exciting initiative for Bignots Budget Builder that never happened...
In fact Mr McNally was supposed to have offered his help with that, he's been strangely quiet of late..
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Post by Al on Dec 28, 2017 10:16:41 GMT
Well done to Simon Ollorenshaw for once again offering his services, he has the leadership skills that are needed to make a difference. There is a saying too many Chiefs and not enough Indians, in the case of our current board perhaps it is a case of too many Indians and no Chief. Let's hope the current board are savvy enough to take up Simon's offer and appoint him as an advisor who can help solve problems and remove road blocks in a timely fashion. I would also like to see appointment of a club President, someone the supporters can identify with and who is vocal enough and visible in a positive way and who can bang the drum and rally the fans. I don't know what the relationship between the club and Grenville Millington is like now or the real reasons behind his departure, but he seems to have most of the required qualities to fulfilling that role. Grenville is probably still trying to figure out the DNA. Simon would be a great person to have back behind the scenes but we also need fresh board members with the drive to get things done....not sure how many people there are willing to give up their time though. Gren might love the club, but his tenure in charge of the club resulted in the appointment of Tony Allen for a non-advertised role, and the appointment of our former Commercial Manager..
I wouldn't have him involved unless it was in a non influential role such as honorary life president or some similar ilk
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Post by cooperman on Dec 28, 2017 10:20:46 GMT
Well done to Simon Ollorenshaw for once again offering his services, he has the leadership skills that are needed to make a difference. There is a saying too many Chiefs and not enough Indians, in the case of our current board perhaps it is a case of too many Indians and no Chief. Let's hope the current board are savvy enough to take up Simon's offer and appoint him as an advisor who can help solve problems and remove road blocks in a timely fashion. I would also like to see appointment of a club President, someone the supporters can identify with and who is vocal enough and visible in a positive way and who can bang the drum and rally the fans. I don't know what the relationship between the club and Grenville Millington is like now or the real reasons behind his departure, but he seems to have most of the required qualities to fulfilling that role. Grenville is probably still trying to figure out the DNA. Simon would be a great person to have back behind the scenes but we also need fresh board members with the drive to get things done....not sure how many people there are willing to give up their time though. i have emailed mark maguire offering my services with anything that needs doing
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Post by Derry Blue on Dec 28, 2017 10:28:08 GMT
I agree with part of what Simon says, all bar getting behind this board. All some of these elected officials of the CFU have done is hide behind Maguire. We've a Chairman who basically called himself 'Mr Marketing', runs in his blood yet has delivered nothing. We've a Vice-Chair who I still don't know what he is supposed to do? I think he takes questions for CFU Meetings via email and passes them on at the meetings? We've other board members who have remained silent throughout, we've seen the Cestrian10 Debacle, the McCarthy contract extension, the spending of the Sam Hughes money on crap, a complete lack of strategy from the board regards advertising and marketing, oh bar the rushed 'Gamemakers' rubbish that we had the other week. Oh and the exciting initiative for Bignots Budget Builder that never happened... In fact Mr McNally was supposed to have offered his help with that, he's been strangely quiet of late.. His silence has been deafening.
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