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Post by iandychesterfc on Dec 27, 2017 13:11:40 GMT
Amongst the hysteria calling for the manager's head perhaps some perspective given the players coming out with credit at the moment are pretty much in majority Bignot signings.
Rhys Hall-Johnson, Jordan Gough and Archer have been recruited to a team with no money to recruit which tells you what they must be being paid. He's also given James Jones his chance far earlier than most would and got Tom Shaw back on the pitch where he belongs.
I'm not saying he is clearly winning the battle to motivate this dross of a squad but i'm struggling to think of someone who could motivate such a bunch of wasters.
I just felt this board needed some balance at least.
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Post by Si on Dec 27, 2017 16:23:11 GMT
I agree. I'm not sure any manager could get us out the mess that he inherited. But he might be better served playing back to basics formations and simplifying things as it's clear that too many players don't know their role in the current tactical set up.
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Post by superman on Dec 27, 2017 17:11:12 GMT
Back to basic formation was employed by McCarthy/Sharps during their 4 match trial and at the start of their permanent appointment with reasonable success. It was only after Sharps left and McCarthy started to do a Burr before losing the plot completely that things turned badly wrong. The lesson is there to be learnt. We don't need rocket science, just simple tactics, easily understood and consistently applied even when matches are difficult. In reality we probably have a squad who could do ok if we applied this philosophy.
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Post by grimsbyfan on Dec 27, 2017 17:18:43 GMT
When Bignot was in charge of us he persisted with a 5 man defence for weeks because it got one good result. The effect of this was completely neutralising our attack and giving us no width yet he couldn't seem to see it. Even when we reverted back to more normal formations that players should be familiar with, there was never any indication that the team had worked on patterns of play or that they knew who's job was what. I'm afraid he just isn't very good tactically. The other alternative is that he does know what he wants tactically but can't transfer that to players. Or both. Probably both.
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Post by delamereal on Dec 27, 2017 17:59:38 GMT
Back to basic formation was employed by McCarthy/Sharps during their 4 match trial and at the start of their permanent appointment with reasonable success. It was only after Sharps left and McCarthy started to do a Burr before losing the plot completely that things turned badly wrong. The lesson is there to be learnt. We don't need rocket science, just simple tactics, easily understood and consistently applied even when matches are difficult. In reality we probably have a squad who could do ok if we applied this philosophy. The problem is we have nobody to play wide midfield in a 442 apart from Mahon (if he's fit) do we, which everybody apart from the manager seems to realise. To start a season with only Mahon (who was injured) and Chappell as our wide players was ludicrous. Both McCarthy and Bignot either can't or won't bring wide men in. |
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Post by sirfred on Dec 27, 2017 18:17:07 GMT
I'm hoping the return of Archer might help and I never want to see Barry White again in a Chester shirt
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Post by Anders on Dec 27, 2017 18:23:13 GMT
Back to basic formation was employed by McCarthy/Sharps during their 4 match trial and at the start of their permanent appointment with reasonable success. It was only after Sharps left and McCarthy started to do a Burr before losing the plot completely that things turned badly wrong. The lesson is there to be learnt. We don't need rocket science, just simple tactics, easily understood and consistently applied even when matches are difficult. In reality we probably have a squad who could do ok if we applied this philosophy. The problem is we have nobody to play wide midfield in a 442 apart from Mahon (if he's fit) do we, which everybody apart from the manager seems to realise. To start a season with only Mahon (who was injured) and Chappell as our wide players was ludicrous. Both McCarthy and Bignot either can't or won't bring wide men in. Could recall Waters from his loan. I’d certainly be getting Mahon straight in on Saturday to the side of Turnbull and Shaw personally. Mahon can get the ball down and carry it forward, the two in the middle can at least tackle and keep it steady enough as well. The other side is the problem. Akintunde can also get the ball down and take people on, put him up top with Archer, presuming Hannah is out. |
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Post by sqzl on Dec 27, 2017 19:12:58 GMT
The problem is we have nobody to play wide midfield in a 442 apart from Mahon (if he's fit) do we, which everybody apart from the manager seems to realise. To start a season with only Mahon (who was injured) and Chappell as our wide players was ludicrous. Both McCarthy and Bignot either can't or won't bring wide men in. Could recall Waters from his loan. I’d certainly be getting Mahon straight in on Saturday to the side of Turnbull and Shaw personally. Mahon can get the ball down and carry it forward, the two in the middle can at least tackle and keep it steady enough as well. The other side is the problem. Akintunde can also get the ball down and take people on, put him up top with Archer, presuming Hannah is out. Every time I see Akintunde I think "you'd be a decent player of you weren't surrounded by garbage". I think with the right pass on the ground he has ability, and he's young, the issue is he will end up with someone like Macc next season. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 19:57:19 GMT
Could recall Waters from his loan. I’d certainly be getting Mahon straight in on Saturday to the side of Turnbull and Shaw personally. Mahon can get the ball down and carry it forward, the two in the middle can at least tackle and keep it steady enough as well. The other side is the problem. Akintunde can also get the ball down and take people on, put him up top with Archer, presuming Hannah is out. Every time I see Akintunde I think "you'd be a decent player of you weren't surrounded by garbage". I think with the right pass on the ground he has ability, and he's young, the issue is he will end up with someone like Macc next season. There hasn't been a better player with the ball at his feet in a long time than Akintunde, the lad has talent. Unfortunately he often finds himself in a dead end thanks to lack of support from midfield |
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Post by waggoner on Dec 27, 2017 20:56:06 GMT
I'm hoping the return of Archer might help and I never want to see Barry White again in a Chester shirt Well if we are looking for a 'wide man' Barry white would deffo fit the bill. |
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Post by Cestrian For Life on Dec 27, 2017 21:03:22 GMT
4 4 fucking 2.
A couple of decent centre halves and build from the back. Stop conceding stupid goals.
Then we may have a chance.
Signing more strikers will not really help when we we're constantly chasing 2+ goals per game
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Post by blueforever on Dec 27, 2017 21:08:39 GMT
Harry White was top goal scorer at Solihull Moors also scored against us the lad has been injured and not had a chance to settle same with Ross Hanna not been able to get full fitness but still has a few goals this season i think there are goals in them but if you aint gettin the service from midfield what chance have they got? biggest mistake was letting lloyd durrell and hunt go.
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Post by jb on Dec 27, 2017 23:00:16 GMT
The problem is we have nobody to play wide midfield in a 442 apart from Mahon (if he's fit) do we, which everybody apart from the manager seems to realise. To start a season with only Mahon (who was injured) and Chappell as our wide players was ludicrous. Both McCarthy and Bignot either can't or won't bring wide men in. Could recall Waters from his loan. I’d certainly be getting Mahon straight in on Saturday to the side of Turnbull and Shaw personally. Mahon can get the ball down and carry it forward, the two in the middle can at least tackle and keep it steady enough as well. The other side is the problem. Akintunde can also get the ball down and take people on, put him up top with Archer, presuming Hannah is out. Get yourself in the dugout for Saturday. You’ve hit the nail on the head with what you’ve said. Bignot should’ve been given a written warning for starting Shite over Akintunde. With decent players around him Akintunde will go and play League football. |
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Post by uptonblue1 on Dec 27, 2017 23:33:22 GMT
-----------Hornby------------
H-Johnson Jones Astles Gough
Mahon Shaw Turnbull Akintunde
Archer --------- Hannah
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Post by Anders on Dec 28, 2017 11:47:26 GMT
-----------Hornby------------ H-Johnson Jones Astles Gough Mahon Shaw Turnbull Akintunde Archer --------- Hannah I'd go with that, Akintunde tends to drift very deep anyway. Middle two keep it tight allowing the wider two alongside, who can both beat a man, to go off and support the strikers more. If Hannah's out you just need to pick someone else to partner Archer. |
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Post by jb on Dec 28, 2017 11:59:36 GMT
Anderson for Jones. Young lad needs a rest and playing in this team is not going to help his confidence.
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Post by southernblue on Dec 28, 2017 12:12:44 GMT
I agree that he has brought in some good players, but I question his formations, and why we don't stick to a 4-4-2 and recruit players to suit that.
Our biggest loss was Durrell, we desperately need to recruit a creative midfielder as Mahon can't be relied upon, much as I like the bloke.
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