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Post by southernblue on Dec 28, 2017 12:08:24 GMT
The season we first lost our league status was an odd one. I remember that although we seemed doomed, there was a buoyant carnival atmosphere when I attended matches. The Great Escape was sung almost continuously. So what's different now?
I know Iain Atkins revitalised the team and the players began putting in gutsy performances.
Can we accept that we are relegated already, and turn up without the worry or pressure of going down, and yet still bring that party atmosphere, bringing back The Great Escape songs? Let's get a positive atmosphere again where we treat any result where we don't lose as a bonus, and get behind the players. You just never know, we might have something to cheer in the next four months.
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Post by kyle on Dec 28, 2017 12:10:19 GMT
There was a positive atmosphere at Halifax....
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Post by southernblue on Dec 28, 2017 12:17:33 GMT
There was a positive atmosphere at Halifax.... There was, I wonder if we can carry that through to the home games, drummers and all. At least try and have a bit of a bounce even if what's happening on the pitch makes you wince like half a lemon's just been shoved in your gob.
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Post by Si on Dec 28, 2017 12:33:46 GMT
It was a different club back then. These days it's like nobody can be arsed. I'm guilty of it, I don't turn up and bounce about singing anymore, and have accepted that we are down. Back then we had more fight in us all, and there were more of us. Feels like we are all just fed up of the continuous struggle since returning to Conference level.
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Post by MOC on Dec 30, 2017 9:15:26 GMT
I don’t remember much of a buoyant atmosphere in the away end at Carlisle when we got stuffed 4-1 there at this point in the season that year and I suspect had Terry Smith stayed in charge of team affairs that the mood would have been comparable to now. As it was, the improvements made under Ian Atkins and the ineptitude of Carlisle and Shrewsbury (who would have been relegated with such a low points tally in most other seasons) meant there was always a chance we could end up avoiding the drop despite how poor we had been for much of the season.
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Dec 30, 2017 10:11:08 GMT
I think the attitude of many of the current squad also contributes to the feeling of inevitability. Some of them clearly do not care what happens and aren't playing for the manager. They're a waste of our time.
I didn't pick up on such a gaping lack of professionalism from the players back in 2000.
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Post by sirfred on Dec 30, 2017 10:48:11 GMT
Forgive me if my history is incorrect but to continuously tie our survival into a brave but failed mission is crackers-
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Post by boughtonblue on Dec 30, 2017 16:38:35 GMT
It's on, we have climbed a place already!
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Post by rcb on Dec 30, 2017 17:01:17 GMT
8 points behind with 2 games in hand. Win those two games and close the gap to only two points. Escape very realistic. If the players are that poor then they’ve done well to stay in contention. I’ve seen glimpses of good play from them, which leaves me with the only option that they must be badly managed. Following McCarthy we were not in any position to gamble, but unfortunately that was what the board chose to do. They listened to Maguire.
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Post by lincolnexile on Dec 30, 2017 17:07:58 GMT
8 points behind with 2 games in hand. Win those two games and close the gap to only two points. Escape very realistic. If the players are that poor then they’ve done well to stay in contention. I’ve seen glimpses of good play from them, which leaves me with the only option that they must be badly managed. Following McCarthy we were not in any position to gamble, but unfortunately that was what the board chose to do. They listened to Maguire.
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Post by lincolnexile on Dec 30, 2017 17:10:55 GMT
8 points behind with 2 games in hand. Win those two games and close the gap to only two points. Escape very realistic. If the players are that poor then they’ve done well to stay in contention. I’ve seen glimpses of good play from them, which leaves me with the only option that they must be badly managed. Following McCarthy we were not in any position to gamble, but unfortunately that was what the board chose to do. They listened to Maguire. The winning of the games in hand might be a problem especially when the team and the supporters appear to have given up.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Dec 30, 2017 17:15:08 GMT
I haven't given up. If loanees or players on short term contracts, can be introduced we may make a fight of it, but vertually all of McCarthy's signings would need to be binned. When was the last time this shower won 2 games, on the run?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 17:19:31 GMT
I haven't given up. If loanees or players on short term contracts, can be introduced we may make a fight of it, but vertually all of McCarthy's signings would need to be binned. When was the last time this shower won 2 games, on the run? About 2 weeks ago
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Dec 30, 2017 17:49:46 GMT
I mean two league games. Over 12 months ago and before the Boxing day collapse, at Solihull Moors?
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Post by rcb on Dec 30, 2017 18:17:16 GMT
I haven't given up. If loanees or players on short term contracts, can be introduced we may make a fight of it, but vertually all of McCarthy's signings would need to be binned. When was the last time this shower won 2 games, on the run? ...that’s the trouble, they can’t run!
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Post by Hannibal on Dec 30, 2017 18:44:13 GMT
I haven't given up. If loanees or players on short term contracts, can be introduced we may make a fight of it, but vertually all of McCarthy's signings would need to be binned. When was the last time this shower won 2 games, on the run? About 2 weeks ago Incorrect ... the 2nd game was a draw.
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Post by jb on Dec 31, 2017 11:59:17 GMT
Need a “feel good factor” for the great escape to take place. The glorious return of George Horan as captain would be of help. Similar player to Hicks in the 99/00 season.
Sooner McCombe is stripped of it the better.
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Post by Lobster on Dec 31, 2017 12:02:47 GMT
Need a “feel good factor” for the great escape to take place. The glorious return of George Horan as captain would be of help. Similar player to Hicks in the 99/00 season. Sooner McCombe is stripped of it the better. We do need a bit of a Hicks or Gary Brabin character. A really passionate psycho who just throws himself into everything and shouts his head off all game. Players like that seem a dying breed these days, although perhaps Astles is one in the making.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 12:07:17 GMT
Need a “feel good factor” for the great escape to take place. The glorious return of George Horan as captain would be of help. Similar player to Hicks in the 99/00 season. Sooner McCombe is stripped of it the better. That's the frightening thing about this side, there is absolutely no fight. There isn't a single player who looks capable of dragging this team over the finish line, there's no leader kicking and screaming, fighting for the cause. A player might read that and call it rubbish but from where I'm sitting in the stands it just looks like 11 lads coasting through to the Summer.
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Post by jb on Dec 31, 2017 12:07:40 GMT
Need a “feel good factor” for the great escape to take place. The glorious return of George Horan as captain would be of help. Similar player to Hicks in the 99/00 season. Sooner McCombe is stripped of it the better. We do need a bit of a Hicks or Gary Brabin character. A really passionate psycho who just throws himself into everything and shouts his head off all game. Players like that seem a dying breed these days, although perhaps Astles is one in the making. Agreed. Our current captain doesn’t care one bit. The way he legged it into the tunnel at Halifax passing every Chester player without saying a word spoke volumes to me.
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