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Post by Maravilla on Dec 28, 2017 18:56:05 GMT
Something I have long since wondered - how representative are we of the wider CFU membership and the fan base as a whole? How many of us are actually signed up CFU members, and are we a big enough community to call an EGM should that ever become necessary? I've long held the belief that some board members think this is just a small cohort of moaners who do not represent the view of the CFU membership or the fan base as a whole, and they may well use that argument to justify them carrying on as they are. I tend to disagree, no doubt there are some posters who are quick to blame and in my view we probably come to conclusions slightly quicker than most, but I generally feel that this is a good yardstick for understanding the views of the wider fan base. No obligation to respond and thanks to those who take part in the poll. If you aren't a member and wish to become one or renew an old membership, follow the below links: Join CFU
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Post by richard on Dec 28, 2017 19:12:50 GMT
Yes, life member
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Post by Al on Dec 28, 2017 20:27:20 GMT
Yes
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Post by boughtonblue on Dec 28, 2017 20:45:40 GMT
Yup
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Post by Jack on Dec 28, 2017 20:52:09 GMT
I wasn't actually.
This thread prompted me to just renew online, mine had lapsed in 2014. Whilst that is my fault, it does show you that very little effort is made by the club to maintain numbers. I'd completely forgotten to do it, how many others are like me?
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Post by shango on Dec 28, 2017 20:53:26 GMT
Yes i am.Just had an email today about the raffle as it happen's.
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Post by Si on Dec 28, 2017 21:01:07 GMT
I wasn't actually. This thread prompted me to just renew online, mine had lapsed in 2014. Whilst that is my fault, it does show you that very little effort is made by the club to maintain numbers. I'd completely forgotten to do it, how many others are like me? Would be nice if this could stimulate others like yourself to sign or or renew. We need the fans more than ever right now as this club is fast undoing the progress made during the formative years. Other fans owned clubs do this membership thing better than us, and it’s partly down to apathy from the club but also I think people have some sort of agenda against the CFU for some reason and then there are others who expect more involvement for their membership fee. Quite simply, it’s a show of support for the club we all love and the more of us signed up then the more influence we can have.
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Post by agl on Dec 28, 2017 21:10:14 GMT
Yes, why wouldn't any Chester fan be a member?
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Post by ivawhopper on Dec 28, 2017 21:13:21 GMT
Not a member. Not a fan of cliques. Pay my money on the gates, donate to squad builder and collection budgets, loose change things et al, no less of a fan
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Post by happyclapper on Dec 28, 2017 21:23:11 GMT
Never been a member before now - I've ticked the no box but the last 10 days has made me realise just how badly the CFU needs new members. If we are to change the way the club is run and return it back to its original ethos then the board needs to be put under pressure and sort the mess out that has been created. So I've just joined for the first time.
I WONDER HOW MANY OTHER NON MEMBERS WILL COME OUT FROM BEHIND THEIR KEYBOARDS AND JOIN UP AS WELL?
If you want to change things don't just sit there guys - you need to get involved.
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Post by Anders on Dec 28, 2017 22:15:48 GMT
Not a member. Not a fan of cliques. Pay my money on the gates, donate to squad builder and collection budgets, loose change things et al, no less of a fanNo, you’re certainly no less of a fan. But the fact you do all of that for a football club, especially one like Chester makes you part of a clique already, so it’s a bit late to be worried about that! Any football supporter is part of a clique. CFU Membership is your name, email address and £12 to the club. No oath, no secret tattoo, no secret knock or handshake either. You won’t believe how little of your time it actually takes up, just five minutes a year to write the form to join or renew if you want it to be. You aren’t dragged along and forced to go and socialise with weird other people you don't like at CFU meetings either, you can watch them online from your bedroom whilst scoffing a packet of Monster Munch if you prefer, that's if you want to watch them at all. Wow, the freedom, imagine that?
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Post by everhopeful on Dec 28, 2017 23:36:33 GMT
Not a member. Not a fan of cliques. Pay my money on the gates, donate to squad builder and collection budgets, loose change things et al, no less of a fan Agreed, you're no less of a fan, BUT you don't know where any of that money you donated went, or even how much was collected in the first place because the board won't tell us, despite being asked several times by several people, including me on three separate occasions. At least the CFU money is accounted for.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Dec 29, 2017 0:32:42 GMT
The main criticism of DC (both forums over the years) is that it doesn't truly reflect the feeling on the terraces, however from talking to people at games, seeing reaction on social media etc I am certain that it does. The idea that most DC'ers are in a minority with their views and are not CFU members is hokum.
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Post by Lobster on Dec 29, 2017 0:45:09 GMT
The main criticism of DC (both forums over the years) is that it doesn't truly reflect the feeling on the terraces, however from talking to people at games, seeing reaction on social media etc I am certain that it does. The idea that most DC'ers are in a minority with their views and are not CFU members is hokum. And another thing people often say is that people post differently under the cloak of a username, but on Facebook, where people are using their real names, the views expressed are often more extreme.
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Post by gone4eva on Dec 29, 2017 1:41:50 GMT
The main criticism of DC (both forums over the years) is that it doesn't truly reflect the feeling on the terraces, however from talking to people at games, seeing reaction on social media etc I am certain that it does. The idea that most DC'ers are in a minority with their views and are not CFU members is hokum. Easy to say though to devalue comments online and therefore sweep it under the carpet. Worse is often said in grounds around the world than online.
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Post by Paul Da Part on Dec 29, 2017 6:59:19 GMT
Was a CFU Member from the start. Forgot to renew in 2014, never really thought about it since. It’s not as if the £12 is actually being put to good use any more, is it? City Fans WERE United in 2010. Everyone pulled in the same direction. No longer the case. You vs them. My interest in it all has diminished. Plenty of factors involved but the club itself has detached itself from those who matter most to it. The fans. And we supposedly own the club? Bollocks. You only have to look at the number of threads and posts on here the last few days to realise that I’m not alone in being seriously pissed off with it all. Change is needed, I agree, but would MY £12 actually go that far? I’ve seen little evidence to say that it will. Every little helps, I know, but I’ve been a member, my membership elapsed and the club did NOTHING to try and entice me back. It’s the simple things that we get so so wrong.
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Post by Al on Dec 29, 2017 8:05:14 GMT
Funny that if those who say they aren't CFU members signed up, we'd have enough members on DC to collectively call for an EGM..
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Post by marner93 on Dec 29, 2017 11:29:52 GMT
Funny that if those who say they aren't CFU members signed up, we'd have enough members on DC to collectively call for an EGM.. Why don't you just call an EGM if you're so desperate for one to be called, you have been bleating on about it for what seems like weeks now.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Dec 29, 2017 11:36:43 GMT
Funny that if those who say they aren't CFU members signed up, we'd have enough members on DC to collectively call for an EGM.. Why don't you just fucking call an EGM if you're so desperate for one to be called, you have been bleating on about it for what seems like weeks now. If you had read his post properly, he's pointing out that you would need a certain amount of members to sign.
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Post by Al on Dec 29, 2017 11:41:17 GMT
From what I can understand from your posts Al you offered to help last spring, withdrew your offer and have spent the last 3 months undermining the current board consistently on here. Perhaps you should use your time constructively and productively to support the club as you do seem to have a skill set and time given the number of posts on here . This board are far from perfect , indeed as have them all, but your constant negativity is causing as much damage and potentially putting people off joining the board in the future than the work they are doing. Not undermining at all. I'm asking the questions that should be asked of the board by the membership. It's called accountability. You might want to let them off the hook and get away with doing the bare minimum, but I do not. I've given my reasons behind why I had to withdraw, I won't go into it again. Good day Sir.
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Post by Al on Dec 29, 2017 12:01:52 GMT
So on 27th December at 6:13 in a post where you referred to the current Board as spineless muppets isn’t undermining them? . Do you think it’s appropriate to say this towards fellow supporters who volunteer their time and effort to help the club. As I have said I agree with lots of the criticism aimed at them but you seem to have an agenda against the board. If your agenda is the best for the club I don’t see why you don’t help rather than criticise ! I've no agenda other then expecting more from those we elected to deliver the club we deserve. Those longer serving members of the board have failed to deliver in my opinion, and I do not have any faith in them to rebuild a step down if we are relegated this season. I will never apologise for saying it as I see it. We are all entitled to an opinion as you are as well
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Post by Harry Lime on Dec 29, 2017 12:15:21 GMT
There is nothing wrong with holding our Board to account.
They may be volunteers, but that doesn't mean they are exempt from questioning over their achievements, or lack of them.
I would love to think that I could make a real difference by becoming a Board member. However, I have a realistic view of my abilities, and don't believe that I'd really be able to do better than other people. Unfortunately some other people either don't have an accurate view of their abilities, or underestimate the job needing to be done. Some appear to be there as part of their personal CV enhancement, judging by their media profiles.
Whatever the current make up of the current Board and Operational Board, there does appear to be a serious problem with them as a group. Rather like the first team squad, some are capable, some may have potential, others seem a waste of time. That may be unfair, but unless any activity and achievement emerges, that is the only view we can hold. Over to you Board. Tell us what you have achieved, and what is about to be achieved.
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Post by Hannibal on Dec 29, 2017 12:19:12 GMT
Over 70% of the people that have voted (inc myself) are CFU members. I think that is very representative. Would urge the people that are not members to join. I think the person that said that the Goats do this better than us was spot on. I also think the person that said he doesn't join cliques was doing a disservice to the people that do join.
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Post by paulie on Dec 29, 2017 13:36:56 GMT
Anyone remember Steve Ashton's interview where he said the CFU have a 5 year plan of being in the conference (achieved in 3) and a 10 year plan of being football league. I wonder what the 5 and 10 year plans are now?
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Post by Al on Dec 29, 2017 18:58:26 GMT
Anyone remember Steve Ashton's interview where he said the CFU have a 5 year plan of being in the conference (achieved in 3) and a 10 year plan of being football league. I wonder what the 5 and 10 year plans are now? When I spoke to our former Chairman Alan Povey he was clear that they were following the plan outlined by Mr Ollerenshaw which he had put together during his tenure. Not entirely sure what that plan is or how it would be revised or even if it's still being followed at this point in time due to the various changes in Chairmanship. I was sorry to see Alan step down in all honesty, I found him a good lad to speak with. Maybe that's something in addition to ask the board at the next CFU meeting regards a structured 5, and 10 year plan and if so can they give us a presentation on what that plan is? I'd like also to know (if we don't find out beforehand) what their response is/was to the open letter from our former Chairman, In addition to the Cestrian10 fiasco, and the non appearance of the "exciting addition to the bignot budget builder"
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Post by gezzer on Dec 29, 2017 19:05:57 GMT
I went to the relaunch do, bond money and CFU money in pocket, listened to a great presentation then it came to Q&A. A good friend of mine and a Chester veteran of 40+ years asked a simple question "how are we going to fund promotion?" he was shot down in pieces told how lucky he was to have a club to support etc etc. After leaving his contact details and informing the righteous ones that he would not be attending any further matches until he got an answer, we and several others left without our bonds or memberships. To this day he has not attended a match and in hindsight where would/could we be now if the CFU had a plan for funding promotion back in the day. Me, I attend games when I want to but will never sign up to CFU. I felt alienated from this "our club,community..." at the time and still do but will always support Chester.
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Post by delboy14 on Dec 29, 2017 19:15:48 GMT
Yes
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Post by tonya on Dec 29, 2017 19:25:27 GMT
I went to the relaunch do, bond money and CFU money in pocket, listened to a great presentation then it came to Q&A. A good friend of mine and a Chester veteran of 40+ years asked a simple question "how are we going to fund promotion?" he was shot down in pieces told how lucky he was to have a club to support etc etc. After leaving his contact details and informing the righteous ones that he would not be attending any further matches until he got an answer, we and several others left without our bonds or memberships. To this day he has not attended a match and in hindsight where would/could we be now if the CFU had a plan for funding promotion back in the day. Me, I attend games when I want to but will never sign up to CFU. I felt alienated from this "our club,community..." at the time and still do but will always support Chester. Yes I am and have been from inception. Don't see many matches as am a Londoner and now nr Bath. Reading the above post I hope someone from the board sees it and invites them back and make amends for what appears to be awful treatment. When we weren't a fans owned club I found it a very approachable club-son mascot and free kit from the club-signed football on request. So the treatment this supprter received is very disappointing. The answer to his question is quite simple so why was he not given one?
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Post by Mean Machine on Dec 29, 2017 19:59:28 GMT
Yes, why wouldn't any Chester fan be a member? Well in my case its because I am a right lazy t**t and I just havnt got round to doing it I will now though
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Post by Si on Dec 29, 2017 20:40:14 GMT
It’s this sort of thing that makes me proud of this forum. Just shows that this is an effective communication tool, and more effective than the current marketing setup! Would be great to keep recruiting people who are reading this thread and show what can be achieved with a bit of a push. Let’s get as many people signed up as possible.
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