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Post by sirfred on Jan 1, 2018 17:34:34 GMT
1 point over Christmas period and away games to come at Ebbsfleet and Fylde then Gateshead at home I'm afraid we're gonners- we can't even hope for a reprieve as I calculate we will finish bottom- acceptance is difficult but it's what we need to do - we can expect rallying calls and Great Escape bullocks we we have to prepare properly for next season and I'm very sad to say with a new Manager in time for the Summer. I have backed Bignot to the hilt but there has been zero improvement and possibly a downturn - It's tough to take but the decisions made last June have cost us big time
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Post by kyle on Jan 1, 2018 17:41:41 GMT
Agreed. Today was the absolute last chance saloon
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Post by btb on Jan 1, 2018 17:43:16 GMT
Accepted it weeks ago. Probably the Dagenham game for me. I'd bin the likes of McCombe halls LRT etc and play the loan players with kids etc.
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Post by 94thminute on Jan 1, 2018 17:45:37 GMT
1 point over Christmas period and away games to come at Ebbsfleet and Fylde then Gateshead at home I'm afraid we're gonners- we can't even hope for a reprieve as I calculate we will finish bottom- acceptance is difficult but it's what we need to do - we can expect rallying calls and Great Escape bullocks we we have to prepare properly for next season and I'm very sad to say with a new Manager in time for the Summer. I have backed Bignot to the hilt but there has been zero improvement and possibly a downturn - It's tough to take but the decisions made last June have cost us big time Its all about not finishing rock bottom now and planning for next season |
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Post by superman on Jan 1, 2018 18:00:06 GMT
Decision has to be made about Bignots future now. If he is to stay he must be instructed to cut costs where possible and as loanees are all going back and youngsters returning, he must play them to see if they have any potential for next year. That way those continuing to attend will at least have local lads.l
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2018 18:03:09 GMT
Decision has to be made about Bignots future now. If he is to stay he must be instructed to cut costs where possible and as loanees are all going back and youngsters returning, he must play them to see if they have any potential for next year. That way those continuing to attend will at least have local lads.l Yes I would expect to see Crawford get a few games, as well as Waters, Jones and hopefully Brown. Can they really be any worse than Turnbull, James, McComb and White? At very least they will bust a gut for the shirt. |
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Post by billyw on Jan 1, 2018 18:21:40 GMT
Decision has to be made about Bignots future now. If he is to stay he must be instructed to cut costs where possible and as loanees are all going back and youngsters returning, he must play them to see if they have any potential for next year. That way those continuing to attend will at least have local lads.l Yes I would expect to see Crawford get a few games, as well as Waters, Jones and hopefully Brown. Can they really be any worse than Turnbull, James, McComb and White? At very least they will bust a gut for the shirt. Yes they can be worse. Throwing young inexperienced untried kids into the fray is madness. |
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Post by paulie on Jan 1, 2018 18:27:01 GMT
Yes I would expect to see Crawford get a few games, as well as Waters, Jones and hopefully Brown. Can they really be any worse than Turnbull, James, McComb and White? At very least they will bust a gut for the shirt. Yes they can be worse. Throwing young inexperienced untried kids into the fray is madness. Agreed, playing in these circumstances could knock there confidence and ruin there own progression. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2018 18:35:00 GMT
Looks like it's going to happen as loan players we got are going back to their Parent clubs shortly
So basically we are skint
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2018 18:48:17 GMT
Yes they can be worse. Throwing young inexperienced untried kids into the fray is madness. Agreed, playing in these circumstances could knock there confidence and ruin there own progression. Because otherwise the end of the season will come and they will be out of contract and released anyway. I would give them a chance and tell them they have nothing to lose and contracts to gain. |
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Post by billyw on Jan 1, 2018 18:57:19 GMT
Agreed, playing in these circumstances could knock there confidence and ruin there own progression. Because otherwise the end of the season will come and they will be out of contract and released anyway. I would give them a chance and tell them they have nothing to lose and contracts to gain. Quite frankly, they have not been successful while out on loan in lower leagues so clearly are nowhere near good enough to play in this league. I don't agree that they have nothing to lose, their confidence could be shattered playing in this league. |
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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Jan 1, 2018 19:02:14 GMT
Bignots comments are a disgrace. Why are the loan players going back? Why isn’t he using their salaries to get more in? He’s beyond a joke now with 20 games to go he’s talking like that, suggesting our youngsters are cannon fodder. For heavens sake get him away from our club.
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Post by Cestrian For Life on Jan 1, 2018 19:17:11 GMT
What I'm struggling with is that there are 20 odd games left and we are not that many points behind and with games in hand.
And yet the Board have given up.
The Manager has given up.
The players have given up.
The fans are naturally giving up considering the apparent lack of drive from our leaders (who are they again?) and lack of anything positive coming out of the match day experience.
What am I supposed to do? Do I give up, do some overtime at work, go shopping, go and watch Man United on the box?
Why should I pay to go and watch for the rest of this season when there is no hope. Admittedly, I have a season ticket but the sentiment is the same.
I need to feel the fight, get behind something, someone who wants to improve things.
Because right now, I need that otherwise, we will get relegated and I will think twice about next years season ticket as I will have found other things to occupy my time.
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Post by Derry Blue on Jan 1, 2018 19:23:31 GMT
1 point over Christmas period and away games to come at Ebbsfleet and Fylde then Gateshead at home I'm afraid we're gonners- we can't even hope for a reprieve as I calculate we will finish bottom- acceptance is difficult but it's what we need to do - we can expect rallying calls and Great Escape bullocks we we have to prepare properly for next season and I'm very sad to say with a new Manager in time for the Summer. I have backed Bignot to the hilt but there has been zero improvement and possibly a downturn - It's tough to take but the decisions made last June have cost us big time This team aren't even good enough for bottom place. |
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Post by Derry Blue on Jan 1, 2018 19:26:08 GMT
Bignots comments are a disgrace. Why are the loan players going back? Why isn’t he using their salaries to get more in? He’s beyond a joke now with 20 games to go he’s talking like that, suggesting our youngsters are cannon fodder. For heavens sake get him away from our club. I never wanted Bignot but accepted he was the chosen one. I had hoped to support him but now - well, I'm just not sure. The question is, will he be our manager in the Conference North. |
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Post by billyw on Jan 1, 2018 19:27:52 GMT
What I'm struggling with is that there are 20 odd games left and we are not that many points behind and with games in hand. And yet the Board have given up. The Manager has given up. The players have given up. The fans are naturally giving up considering the apparent lack of drive from our leaders (who are they again?) and lack of anything positive coming out of the match day experience. What am I supposed to do? Do I give up, do some overtime at work, go shopping, go and watch Man United on the box? Why should I pay to go and watch for the rest of this season when there is no hope. Admittedly, I have a season ticket but the sentiment is the same. I need to feel the fight, get behind something, someone who wants to improve things. Because right now, I need that otherwise, we will get relegated and I will think twice about next years season ticket as I will have found other things to occupy my time. Excellent summing up. It disgraceful that everyone at the club seems to be reconciled to relegation when there are so many points to play for. FFS Bignot, McGuire and the Board, grow some balls and show a bit of bloody fight. Is it any wonder that the players aren't performing when the hierarchy are so bloody spineless. |
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Post by billyw on Jan 1, 2018 19:28:37 GMT
Bignots comments are a disgrace. Why are the loan players going back? Why isn’t he using their salaries to get more in? He’s beyond a joke now with 20 games to go he’s talking like that, suggesting our youngsters are cannon fodder. For heavens sake get him away from our club. I never wanted Bignot but accepted he was the chosen one. I had hoped to support him but now - well, I'm just not sure. The question is, will he be our manager in the Conference North. I bloody hope not. |
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Post by MPW on Jan 1, 2018 19:47:30 GMT
Am I right in thinking that the squad builder raised £4K and that some of that money went into signing Udoh? I’m not a mathematician but I reckon that money would go along way to signing one or two decent players if only for a month or two. From what I’ve seen, I reckon Crawford would do a better job that Udoh so I see that money as wasted yet again.
Hornby is no better than Mitchell, yet MB sent Mitchell back halfway through his season long loan spell.
Only Hall-Johnson has been a good signing, but sounds like we can’t even afford to extend his loan.
Baffling to hear Bignot sound so negative, it’s reminiscent of how Macca was near the end of his tenor. He knows he can’t turn it around, but is carrying on until the inevitable happens.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jan 1, 2018 19:51:04 GMT
Yes I would expect to see Crawford get a few games, as well as Waters, Jones and hopefully Brown. Can they really be any worse than Turnbull, James, McComb and White? At very least they will bust a gut for the shirt. Yes they can be worse. Throwing young inexperienced untried kids into the fray is madness. Into what fray? The pressure is off now that our season is over, let's be honest. |
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Post by billyw on Jan 1, 2018 19:58:47 GMT
Yes they can be worse. Throwing young inexperienced untried kids into the fray is madness. Into what fray? The pressure is off now that our season is over, let's be honest. There are still 60 points to play for. I agree that it seems an impossible task but not beyond rescue IF we had the right manager. |
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Post by rcb on Jan 1, 2018 20:17:57 GMT
Two games in hand which, if we win, will leave us two points off safety. Only to look at Macclesfield to see what is achievable. Maguire and Bignot out IMMEDIATELY, and a winner in. It really is that simple. Going down without a fight would be pathetic. Bignot not the answer and Maguire’s pipeline is bloody empty. Wake up and smell the coffee for God’s sake. Why be a circus with two useless clowns? Barrow lost out because of Maguire and his pet Bignot theory. His chance has now failed so act now and get the big man in.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2018 20:23:03 GMT
There's an enormous air of depression at the moment and a feeling of impending doom.
Each week that passes, the inevitability of relegation will grow UNLESS there is a massive upturn in performance, a scenario which many think is unlikely to say the least.
Imagine another 4 months of this slow, lingering death and then imagine trying to generate a positive vibe in time for next season. It would be no easy task.
As a thought, a sh1t or bust approach to the remaining games with players who are hungry and committed e.g some younger lads MIGHT just create a bit more positive feeling towards the next campaign because fans could see something for the future.
What have we got to lose? It's probably gone anyway!
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Post by Captain Duff on Jan 1, 2018 20:45:57 GMT
Bignots comments are a disgrace. Why are the loan players going back? Why isn’t he using their salaries to get more in? He’s beyond a joke now with 20 games to go he’s talking like that, suggesting our youngsters are cannon fodder. For heavens sake get him away from our club. No, your comments are a disgrace, although that is par for the course for you. Here is what he said: Marcus Bignot post match Guiseley awayIt is quite clear from his comments at around the 3 mins plus mark that it is out of his hands, the reasons are clearly financial. Add to that the fact that under FA rules short term loan players are only for a max of 28 - 93 days and it was clear most would likely be going back anyway (although we could in theory have up to 4 u23 and 4 over 23 season long loans). Do you not think he would want to extend some loan periods? Get more in? Of course he would, but clearly he can't, although that doesn't stop your regular dose of anti-Bignot bile does it? |
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Post by billyw on Jan 1, 2018 20:56:46 GMT
Two games in hand which, if we win, will leave us two points off safety. Only to look at Macclesfield to see what is achievable. Maguire and Bignot out IMMEDIATELY, and a winner in. It really is that simple. Going down without a fight would be pathetic. Bignot not the answer and Maguire’s pipeline is bloody empty. Wake up and smell the coffee for God’s sake. Why be a circus with two useless clowns? Barrow lost out because of Maguire and his pet Bignot theory. His chance has now failed so act now and get the big man in. Spot on. If we are going down let's at least go down fighting. I think an experienced manager could still get us out of the mess that the Board, McGuire, McCarthy and Bignot have collectively landed us in. |
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Post by paulinem on Jan 1, 2018 21:54:30 GMT
With such doom and gloom amongst the supporters and very little positivity coming from anywhere inside or outside which is causing a lot of bickering and splits.
Is it time to call another Guildhall Meeting to thrash a few things out between what the fans see and what the realities are in running this club? I think we are weary of hearing we all need to pull together when a lot of people have tried to help. It’s time to come clean on what is failing and why and maybe it will give us the opportunity to try and solve them collectively
I can accept that we don’t have the resources to become a competitive club overnight but it constantly bugs me that we don’t appear to be doing even the basics to ensure we are making the most of income streams that are available.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Jan 1, 2018 22:07:34 GMT
This thread should read something like this
“Supporters of Chester FC accept that the board and managements incompetence has completely ruined your club”.
Many thanks very very sad indeed
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Post by Al on Jan 1, 2018 22:27:11 GMT
With such doom and gloom amongst the supporters and very little positivity coming from anywhere inside or outside which is causing a lot of bickering and splits. Is it time to call another Guildhall Meeting to thrash a few things out between what the fans see and what the realities are in running this club? I think we are weary of hearing we all need to pull together when a lot of people have tried to help. It’s time to come clean on what is failing and why and maybe it will give us the opportunity to try and solve them collectively I can accept that we don’t have the resources to become a competitive club overnight but it constantly bugs me that we don’t appear to be doing even the basics to ensure we are making the most of income streams that are available. Maybe you should also ask more pressing questions in the CFU meetings Pauline rather than "how many are watching on the live stream?" Collectively we have all played a part in the demise in stature of our club. Lethargy has crept in, especially with our attitude regards how things are run off the field. A blind acceptance of anything the board and paid staff say. Its obvious it needs a change in attitude amongst the membership, and time we held these people to account. That means we need to understand what state our finances are in, what our projected losses are this season (I asked at last meeting but Maguire refused to answer it). The very future of our club depends on a strong willed membership who are not afraid to ask the difficult questions |
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Post by paulinem on Jan 1, 2018 22:42:51 GMT
With such doom and gloom amongst the supporters and very little positivity coming from anywhere inside or outside which is causing a lot of bickering and splits. Is it time to call another Guildhall Meeting to thrash a few things out between what the fans see and what the realities are in running this club? I think we are weary of hearing we all need to pull together when a lot of people have tried to help. It’s time to come clean on what is failing and why and maybe it will give us the opportunity to try and solve them collectively I can accept that we don’t have the resources to become a competitive club overnight but it constantly bugs me that we don’t appear to be doing even the basics to ensure we are making the most of income streams that are available. Maybe you should also ask more pressing questions in the CFU meetings Pauline rather than "how many are watching on the live stream?" Collectively we have all played a part in the demise in stature of our club. Lethargy has crept in, especially with our attitude regards how things are run off the field. A blind acceptance of anything the board and paid staff say. Its obvious it needs a change in attitude amongst the membership, and time we held these people to account. That means we need to understand what state our finances are in, what our projected losses are this season (I asked at last meeting but Maguire refused to answer it). The very future of our club depends on a strong willed membership who are not afraid to ask the difficult questions Maybe I didn’t make myself clear but that’s exactly what I was suggesting! We need to look critically at what has been going wrong but while the top line ir to look at the finances but we do get a report at CFU meetings anyway. However, we obviously need more volunteers to cover a number of things where we are losing money so why isn’t that being addressed, communicated and managed? |
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Post by Al on Jan 1, 2018 22:50:09 GMT
Maybe you should also ask more pressing questions in the CFU meetings Pauline rather than "how many are watching on the live stream?" Collectively we have all played a part in the demise in stature of our club. Lethargy has crept in, especially with our attitude regards how things are run off the field. A blind acceptance of anything the board and paid staff say. Its obvious it needs a change in attitude amongst the membership, and time we held these people to account. That means we need to understand what state our finances are in, what our projected losses are this season (I asked at last meeting but Maguire refused to answer it). The very future of our club depends on a strong willed membership who are not afraid to ask the difficult questions Maybe I didn’t make myself clear but that’s exactly what I was suggesting! We need to look critically at what has been going wrong but while the top line ir to look at the finances but we do get a report at CFU meetings anyway. However, we obviously need more volunteers to cover a number of things where we are losing money so why isn’t that being addressed, communicated and managed? I don't hear figures being mentioned by the board, just soundbites and waffle about pipelines and "exciting initiatives" that never materialise. This lot haven't got a bloody clue what they're doing |
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Post by bluesntwos on Jan 1, 2018 22:53:59 GMT
Wait for the maths to prove it, until then have at least a little faith.
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