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Post by gone4eva on Jan 2, 2018 0:37:40 GMT
Simple question, no weighted answers, so do not over think it.
Do you back the Board?
VOTE!
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Post by gone4eva on Jan 2, 2018 9:02:33 GMT
Will lock poll off in a few days.
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Post by durdy on Jan 2, 2018 9:21:03 GMT
Notice that McGuire and a couple of his cronies have cast their vote already ๐ค
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Post by bonecrusher on Jan 2, 2018 10:38:23 GMT
The board haven't done much recently to suggest they are worth backing. Interestingly though - how many of the 26 No votes are from people who are volunteering to step up? I'm not impressed by the board but I'm also not suggesting I could do better.
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Post by onetrevorstorton on Jan 2, 2018 10:57:03 GMT
The board haven't done much recently to suggest they are worth backing. Interestingly though - how many of the 26 No votes are from people who are volunteering to step up? I'm not impressed by the board but I'm also not suggesting I could do better. I Can only echo whats said above , I am critical of the way things are being run at the present mainly lack of communication about the position we are in and where we are going especially after the Bignot interview, I would like to see one last throw of the dice which may increase attendances and pay its way , but with the lack of information I am unsure what is planned if anything for our immediate future . One thing I do know is that I do not have the time to volunteer and doubt I could do any better with the finances . Who would we replace them with ? .
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Post by gezzer on Jan 2, 2018 11:33:48 GMT
We have a board-in-waiting. Very good communicator, always willing to explain themselves, lots of fundraising initiatives, they regularly hold meet and greet sessions and seem to have the time to devote to the cause. Step forward Senior Blues!!!!
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Post by Lobster on Jan 2, 2018 12:45:19 GMT
Notice that McGuire and a couple of his cronies have cast their vote already ๐ค I voted 'yes', because the question says not to overthink it. Do I agree with what they're doing (or not doing)? Not really. Do I wish things would change? Certainly. But do I back and support them? Yes, I think so. They're who we've elected and there aren't too many other candidates in waiting. I would support working with them as much as possible rather than against them. A change of attitude might help rather than a change in personnel. To say 'no', I think you have to propose some sort of alternative. To me, nobody's really doing that. It's easy to identify a problem, not so easy to propose a solution. There have been some excellent posts on here recently, but also a lot of general, vague moaning like "sack the board" and "let the fans decide" that doesn't really even make any sense. Really too complex a question to just give a yes or no answer to, but if I'm forced to, I'd say yes.
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Post by gone4eva on Jan 2, 2018 13:49:05 GMT
Interestingly though - how many of the 26 No votes are from people who are volunteering to step up? I'm not impressed by the board but I'm also not suggesting I could do better. Why is that always the answer? If I say the manager is crap will I get offered the job, or if I suggest Harry Kane has an off day for England do you read that as I am saying I am a better striker? It is a woeful comeback to suggest unless you personally could do better and are volunteering then you can't hold a viewpoint. You are part of the problem.
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Post by tarvinblue on Jan 2, 2018 13:54:04 GMT
Spot on! If you put yourself forward for the role, then you are suggesting you have the capacity and skills to make a difference. You might be a volunteer but you are still taking up a position of responsibility. With that has to come the expectation that you will fulfill that expectation to the best of your ability. How many on that board at the moment, hand on heart, can say they are fulfilling their responsibility in anything other than physically being on it? It's just lazy to throw back the line about stepping up if you have a problem with the way it's being run. It defeats the point that there are already people who have put themselves forwards who, for whatever reason, are choosing not to perform the role. Surely the question has to be why they aren't doing this?
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Post by bonecrusher on Jan 2, 2018 16:30:26 GMT
Interestingly though - how many of the 26 No votes are from people who are volunteering to step up? I'm not impressed by the board but I'm also not suggesting I could do better.ย Why is that always the answer?ย If I say the manager is crap will I get offered the job, or if I suggest Harry Kane has an off day for England do you read that as I am saying I am a better striker? It is a woeful comeback to suggest unless you personally could do better and are volunteering then you can't hold a viewpoint. You are part of the problem.ย To all Chester fans I would like to sincerely apologise for being part of the problem. Blame me for everything. I will try harder. FFS, I'm not saying you can't hold a view point (I've got one I voted No for what its worth), just suggesting that it's easy to be critical but in reality may be much more tricky to perform the role.
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Post by gone4eva on Jan 4, 2018 0:32:01 GMT
80% do not.
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Post by mcseal on Jan 4, 2018 10:48:24 GMT
Or to put it another way, just 48 people do not support the board.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 11:25:36 GMT
...and only 14 do support them
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Post by Hannibal on Jan 4, 2018 12:58:17 GMT
We have a board-in-waiting. Very good communicator, always willing to explain themselves, lots of fundraising initiatives, they regularly hold meet and greet sessions and seem to have the time to devote to the cause. Step forward Senior Blues!!!! That would mean austerity.
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Post by trublu on Jan 4, 2018 14:04:12 GMT
Interestingly though - how many of the 26 No votes are from people who are volunteering to step up? I'm not impressed by the board but I'm also not suggesting I could do better.ย Why is that always the answer?ย If I say the manager is crap will I get offered the job, or if I suggest Harry Kane has an off day for England do you read that as I am saying I am a better striker? It is a woeful comeback to suggest unless you personally could do better and are volunteering then you can't hold a viewpoint. You are part of the problem.ย Well, 6 months ago you were banging on about some bullshit about a cat in a supermarket, now you're 'ell bent on sacking the board. Actually, it is reasonable to question who would step in to the role if we were to sack the board. Because the fact is We're drawing from a very small pool of people and asking a lot of those that do step forward. A job which is worsened by constant sniping from the likes of you. It's you that is part of the problem, because there will be significantly fewer willing to step forward and do what they can because it invites your sort to have a pop all the time. Easy to pick fault, much harder to offer a solution. Have mistakes been made? Certainly. Is there a new, much better board waiting in the wings to do a much better job? Certainly not. If you were in charge the place would be like an Egyptian temple and to hell with the football.
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Post by livinginhope on Jan 4, 2018 14:25:57 GMT
Why is that always the answer? If I say the manager is crap will I get offered the job, or if I suggest Harry Kane has an off day for England do you read that as I am saying I am a better striker? It is a woeful comeback to suggest unless you personally could do better and are volunteering then you can't hold a viewpoint. You are part of the problem. Well, 6 months ago you were banging on about some bullshit about a cat in a supermarket, now you're 'ell bent on sacking the board. Actually, it is reasonable to question who would step in to the role if we were to sack the board. Because the fact is We're drawing from a very small pool of people and asking a lot of those that do step forward. A job which is worsened by constant sniping from the likes of you. It's you that is part of the problem, because there will be significantly fewer willing to step forward and do what they can because it invites your sort to have a pop all the time. Easy to pick fault, much harder to offer a solution. Have mistakes been made? Certainly. Is there a new, much better board waiting in the wings to do a much better job? Certainly not. If you were in charge the place would be like an Egyptian temple and to hell with the football. Spot on trublu.
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Post by Al on Jan 4, 2018 14:30:48 GMT
Why is that always the answer? If I say the manager is crap will I get offered the job, or if I suggest Harry Kane has an off day for England do you read that as I am saying I am a better striker? It is a woeful comeback to suggest unless you personally could do better and are volunteering then you can't hold a viewpoint. You are part of the problem. Well, 6 months ago you were banging on about some bullshit about a cat in a supermarket, now you're 'ell bent on sacking the board.
Actually, it is reasonable to question who would step in to the role if we were to sack the board. Because the fact is We're drawing from a very small pool of people and asking a lot of those that do step forward. A job which is worsened by constant sniping from the likes of you. It's you that is part of the problem, because there will be significantly fewer willing to step forward and do what they can because it invites your sort to have a pop all the time. Easy to pick fault, much harder to offer a solution. Have mistakes been made? Certainly. Is there a new, much better board waiting in the wings to do a much better job? Certainly not. If you were in charge the place would be like an Egyptian temple and to hell with the football.
Amazing.. his obsessing over a bucket collection of a statue for a cat that wasn't his...
I forgot about that! Thought it was an obvious wind-up - how could anyone be that daft...
How wrong I was!
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Post by bing on Jan 4, 2018 15:39:03 GMT
It would perhaps add some perspective if we knew how much time 'working on the board' entailed.
I'm sure some people on here assume they turn up once a fortnight for an hour or so.
I've heard it's the equivalent of an extra day's work per week. Not sure how accurate that is, but it is a large undertaking - and although by putting themselves forward they open themselves to criticism, I have to baulk at some of the wild hysteria on here.
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Post by gezzer on Jan 4, 2018 15:56:51 GMT
This is a question asked on the Candidate manifestos (CFU website-AGM September 2017) Answers are mostly quite woolly but one Director can commit to 10 hours per month!!
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Post by gone4eva on Jan 4, 2018 22:03:18 GMT
Why is that always the answer? If I say the manager is crap will I get offered the job, or if I suggest Harry Kane has an off day for England do you read that as I am saying I am a better striker? It is a woeful comeback to suggest unless you personally could do better and are volunteering then you can't hold a viewpoint. You are part of the problem. Well, 6 months ago you were banging on about some bullshit about a cat in a supermarket, now you're 'ell bent on sacking the board. Actually, it is reasonable to question who would step in to the role if we were to sack the board. Because the fact is We're drawing from a very small pool of people and asking a lot of those that do step forward. A job which is worsened by constant sniping from the likes of you. It's you that is part of the problem, because there will be significantly fewer willing to step forward and do what they can because it invites your sort to have a pop all the time. Easy to pick fault, much harder to offer a solution. Have mistakes been made? Certainly. Is there a new, much better board waiting in the wings to do a much better job? Certainly not.
If you were in charge the place would be like an Egyptian temple and to hell with the football. "It is a woeful comeback to suggest unless you personally could do better and are volunteering then you can't hold a viewpoint." x2
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 23:35:16 GMT
YES.
They are doing their best under the circumstances.
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Post by trublu on Jan 5, 2018 2:17:45 GMT
Well, 6 months ago you were banging on about some bullshit about a cat in a supermarket, now you're 'ell bent on sacking the board. Actually, it is reasonable to question who would step in to the role if we were to sack the board. Because the fact is We're drawing from a very small pool of people and asking a lot of those that do step forward. A job which is worsened by constant sniping from the likes of you. It's you that is part of the problem, because there will be significantly fewer willing to step forward and do what they can because it invites your sort to have a pop all the time. Easy to pick fault, much harder to offer a solution. Have mistakes been made? Certainly. Is there a new, much better board waiting in the wings to do a much better job? Certainly not.
If you were in charge the place would be like an Egyptian temple and to hell with the football. "It is a woeful comeback to suggest unless you personally could do better and are volunteering then you can't hold a viewpoint." x2 Firstly, it isn't. It's all well and good picking fault with others' effort. Secondly, I'm not asking you to step forward personally. I'm telling you that there isn't enough people out there who would. The structure is set up to find the best people available.
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Post by cfcforme on Jan 5, 2018 6:52:47 GMT
If any of us actually knew what the board have done and intend to do to move the club forward then we might actually back them. As it is though, there is a deafening wall of silence which leaves fans understandably thinking they're doing naff all which makes them part of the problem. Zero accountability from the board and you have to blame the only person who can change that I.e. The chairman.
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Post by Captain Duff on Jan 5, 2018 9:22:51 GMT
I will always back the elected board until it is time to elect a new one, that is not the same as having no criticism (I do), but it is about protecting and supporting the fundamental elements that keep the club going, that is elected volunteers.
The current board have done themselves no favours in terms of communications or visibility (or rather complete invisibility from our current chairman - meaning the public roles of chairman and CEO have been unacceptably reversed recently, although unlike some I am not blaming the CEO for that), but equally some of the constant and pretty nasty attacks on here from people who have never been on the board and who have no intention it seems of standing for it either, will ensure that many others will likely think twice now before stepping up for election themselves. We need to be very careful about what we wish for.
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Post by alancfc on Jan 5, 2018 16:15:41 GMT
Do I Back all of the Board? No Do I back the Laurence Kirby, David Harrington, David O'Toole, David Williams, Andy Morris, Mark Jones and Mike Day? Yes
Make of that what you will.
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Post by bonecrusher on Jan 5, 2018 17:36:54 GMT
Well, 6 months ago you were banging on about some bullshit about a cat in a supermarket, now you're 'ell bent on sacking the board. Actually, it is reasonable to question who would step in to the role if we were to sack the board. Because the fact is We're drawing from a very small pool of people and asking a lot of those that do step forward. A job which is worsened by constant sniping from the likes of you. It's you that is part of the problem, because there will be significantly fewer willing to step forward and do what they can because it invites your sort to have a pop all the time. Easy to pick fault, much harder to offer a solution. Have mistakes been made? Certainly. Is there a new, much better board waiting in the wings to do a much better job? Certainly not.
If you were in charge the place would be like an Egyptian temple and to hell with the football. "It is a woeful comeback to suggest unless you personally could do better and are volunteering then you can't hold a viewpoint." x2 Oh get a life. Who are you suggesting the 'new board' you want should be made up from? No-one in their right mind would say that it's all god at the moment but maybe you could suggest your alternative masterplan because I haven't got one.
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Post by Hannibal on Jan 5, 2018 17:48:30 GMT
Do I Back all of the Board? No Do I back the Laurence Kirby, David Harrington, David O'Toole, David Williams, Andy Morris, Mark Jones and Mike Day? Yes Make of that what you will. So are you saying these are good and the rest are bad. I don't agree with you.
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Post by alancfc on Jan 5, 2018 18:32:15 GMT
Do I Back all of the Board? No Do I back the Laurence Kirby, David Harrington, David O'Toole, David Williams, Andy Morris, Mark Jones and Mike Day? Yes Make of that what you will. So are you saying these are good and the rest are bad. I don't agree with you. . I'd never say someone who volunteers for our club in any role is "bad", I'm saying those I mentioned I have/would back in the time in the future, given their abilities
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Post by Hannibal on Jan 5, 2018 18:58:53 GMT
The second part of that sentence doesn't make a lot of sense.
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Post by gone4eva on Jan 5, 2018 23:47:03 GMT
"It is a woeful comeback to suggest unless you personally could do better and are volunteering then you can't hold a viewpoint." x2 Oh get a life. Who are you suggesting the 'new board' you want should be made up from? No-one in their right mind would say that it's all god at the moment but maybe you could suggest your alternative masterplan because I haven't got one. You do not have a plan and think there is no one else aside from the current board able to put one together. Amazing logic there. Usual argument of 'yeah but who else?' to preserve status quo, what if the board resigned, would the club stop? No. Engage your brain...
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