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Post by dmcnally on Jan 11, 2018 18:10:12 GMT
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Post by bonecrusher on Jan 11, 2018 18:41:32 GMT
Let's do it!
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Post by sealandender on Jan 11, 2018 18:45:41 GMT
our club needs us more than ever . get behind the lads.. COYB
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Post by bonecrusher on Jan 11, 2018 18:49:25 GMT
Especially if we ever have another home game... #withdrawal...
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Post by Rio Doherty on Jan 11, 2018 19:12:12 GMT
We’re all in this together!
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Post by devadiva on Jan 11, 2018 19:28:46 GMT
Hope the Board has finally got the message and this isn’t another statement of great intent with no follow up like in the past. We are in the last chance saloon in terms of survival in this league and their actions now need to speak a million times louder than their words.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jan 11, 2018 19:43:54 GMT
This is positive but we need the board's attitudes to change - if that doesn't happen, then we need a new board. I reiterate, this is a positive step though.
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Post by devadiva on Jan 11, 2018 19:57:12 GMT
Agreed. But I am worried that leopards don’t change their spots. Sincerely hope I am wrong.
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Post by superman on Jan 11, 2018 19:58:37 GMT
Similarly to Devadiva's view, let's hope the proposed working groups are revealed sooner rather than later, and that we the fans get involved wherever we can, time and/or skills permitting. The action of us the fans will also speak louder than a million Deva_chat messages. First action is for us all to get down to the next home match as a statement of intent. Come on let's set a target for highest home fan attendance of the season. Over ambitious I know but if you don't have a clear target then hard to generate involvement. Come on those who only go to away games and to Wrexham and Tranmere home games, we need your support. Come on Blaconites get down in your numbers to support your local lad. Let's try and build a bit of positive momentum on here, it might just help and rub off on a few stay away fans.
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Post by Rio The Ball Bag on Jan 11, 2018 20:32:59 GMT
To little to late for me, the board know they have messed us, now they're trying to unfuck the situation. Personally I feel they've blown their chance.
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Post by jtp on Jan 11, 2018 20:34:28 GMT
COYB!
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Post by rcb on Jan 11, 2018 21:08:20 GMT
Another Maguire set up! Two weeks before a significant meeting which will challenge the integrity and ability of a spineless board who have allowed a free hand to Maguire, up pops a public statement. Well, what a surprise. Wow, and look who brought us the news. Non other than mini-maguire himself. Talk about a pathetic setup. Surely anyone with more than two GCSE’s will see this for what it is.
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Post by tarvinblue on Jan 11, 2018 21:31:02 GMT
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Post by richard on Jan 11, 2018 21:55:24 GMT
Another Maguire set up! Two weeks before a significant meeting which will challenge the integrity and ability of a spineless board who have allowed a free hand to Maguire, up pops a public statement. Well, what a surprise. Wow, and look who brought us the news. Non other than mini-maguire himself. Talk about a pathetic setup. Surely anyone with more than two GCSE’s will see this for what it is. rcb, you are quite wrong about this. I know for certain that our CEO had nothing to do with this statement. It represents the opinion of the Board regarding the present situation, the need to become more transparent and to ask for help. I fail to see why academic qualifications has any bearing on understanding this. |
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Post by dmcnally on Jan 11, 2018 22:04:23 GMT
Another Maguire set up! Two weeks before a significant meeting which will challenge the integrity and ability of a spineless board who have allowed a free hand to Maguire, up pops a public statement. Well, what a surprise. Wow, and look who brought us the news. Non other than mini-maguire himself. Talk about a pathetic setup. Surely anyone with more than two GCSE’s will see this for what it is. Jesus rcb you really are pathetic, I’m scrolling around on Twitter, up pops a statement, ah this will be of relevance for Devachat, oh look no one has posted about it I may as well make a thread. You are reading into things far too much rcb. Pathetic attempt at causing some controversy here. |
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Jan 11, 2018 22:06:47 GMT
RCB being the cynical sole I am and what we’ve experienced and witnessed during 2017. Yes you are probably correct.
I do feel that we should all try and push as hard as we can to try and get out of this. There is a lot of work to do for sure.
Let’s try and all do as the board statement requests.
We can certainly come back and address what certainly requires attention at the end of the season.
It seems we have some forward momentum and there are others around us who don’t let’s use it to our advantage.
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Post by everhopeful on Jan 11, 2018 22:51:37 GMT
Full of rhetoric but short of substance! Let's wait and see what, if anything comes of these laudable soundbites. I fear that this will be a seven day wonder and nothing will come of it, but I sincerely hope that I'm wrong.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Jan 11, 2018 23:05:52 GMT
Yes it remains to be seen etc but the only way we can get out of this is by as the statement says all pulling together.
We have a little momentum. Let’s use that and all unite together as we try to avoid relegation and reclaim hopefully that our club feeling.
Regards to the board for their statement it’s a positive start.
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Post by btb on Jan 11, 2018 23:15:59 GMT
Sounds a promising start to moving things forward. The board, and more importantly, the club has lost its way recently. Not helped by the disaster of Jon McCarthy. But that's in the past. I feel this and the recent good run of results is very positive. Looking forward to the next few weeks and finally seeing a home game!
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Post by gone4eva on Jan 12, 2018 0:05:12 GMT
So the statement and meeting is self confessed as a reaction to fan reaction?
That is not a very proactive board.
Blaming results for the dropped attendances and 'feel good factor'... ok, who has the hand on the overall tiller that affects the on the pitch stuff? The board.
Working groups created and the fans will be asked to take the vision forward.
What working groups? What vision? Sorry fans, can't tell you that yet.
Sorry, but anyone who sees this statement as anything but deflection 'come on lads!' football fan passion nonsense rather than the serious answers needed deserves the club you will get.
I do not think a single question posted on the other thread has been covered by this statement.
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Post by jollyboysam on Jan 12, 2018 0:29:27 GMT
Jeez,why are you so relentlessly negative,deflection,? Of course the attendances are results affected. Do you ever speak to the board, I do, phone or email them and speak to them at the ground or on match days, it's so easy. We all need to do more. Purely my opinion of course!
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jan 12, 2018 1:15:00 GMT
Full of rhetoric but short of substance! Let's wait and see what, if anything comes of these laudable soundbites. I fear that this will be a seven day wonder and nothing will come of it, but I sincerely hope that I'm wrong. I have the same concern based on past record, but all we can do is see what happens. |
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Post by Dodge on Jan 12, 2018 13:11:54 GMT
Another Maguire set up! Two weeks before a significant meeting which will challenge the integrity and ability of a spineless board who have allowed a free hand to Maguire, up pops a public statement. Well, what a surprise. Wow, and look who brought us the news. Non other than mini-maguire himself. Talk about a pathetic setup. Surely anyone with more than two GCSE’s will see this for what it is. You'd know all about pathetic, anonymously berating a 17 year old volunteer on a forum. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2018 13:42:31 GMT
Given our current predicament and the recent debates on the matter, let's just give these guys a bit of leeway to see if things actually come to fruition. I hope they do although a small part of me is sceptical.
Personally, I'm no great fan of these "call to arms" things; maybe they do energise a few people but I, for one, do not need others to tell me how I should go about supporting the team.
I encourage the team as best I can at every game I attend as, like everyone else, I desperately want us to succeed.
There's only one thing that encourages me to cheer a little bit louder and that is when we play to our best and we're competing in games. This has been in short supply up to now but there are signs of life and so I guess I will be a bit more vocal in the weeks to come
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2018 15:08:17 GMT
So the statement and meeting is self confessed as a reaction to fan reaction? That is not a very proactive board. Blaming results for the dropped attendances and 'feel good factor'... ok, who has the hand on the overall tiller that affects the on the pitch stuff? The board. Working groups created and the fans will be asked to take the vision forward. What working groups? What vision? Sorry fans, can't tell you that yet. Sorry, but anyone who sees this statement as anything but deflection 'come on lads!' football fan passion nonsense rather than the serious answers needed deserves the club you will get. I do not think a single question posted on the other thread has been covered by this statement. I think the statement is a start. It is an admission to some failings and in holding last Mondays meeting they are taking steps to put their mistakes right. Although I have nothing to do with the statement other than offer it my support, I was at the meeting and there are plenty of issues that need addressing both in the short term and the long term. I think that the current board and the CEO understand that they are right up against it time wise, and they need to start delivering. Yes results make or break gates, but I'd agree with the statement that positivity from the supporters helps results. The community tickets offer is a superb way of getting people who are on a tight budget in to watch the match. Free for kids under 15, £10 for any accompanying adult is cheap as chips. It will also help atmosphere because that stand being empty just sucks the life out of the place. As cliched as it may be, these kids are the long term future of our club, it is a real positive step. There have been lots of problems with the club over the last few years and the silence of the current board has not helped that, but if everybody just walks away or moans and says "I told you so" - and for quite a few people that would be understandable - then we will literally have no club to support. If this city wants a club then as the hardcore it is surely our responsibility to help preserve that. We ALL need to start looking to the future and how in our own small way we can effect OUR local club for the better. It is too easy to say "if you are not happy with things join the board". That is simply not practical for most of us. But following the meeting and this statement it is important that the opportunity needs to be given to us as supporters (and owners if you choose to be a CFU member) that if you are not happy with things could you offer the club an hour a week? Could you suggest to a board member in an email a way things could be improved? Or a phone call? There really is no us and them. There is only us. You may pay on the gate. You may donate every month. You may just sit at home listening to Seals Live. You may think CFU needs to sell 49% or 100% of Chester FC to a rich businessman, or you may be like me and believe that I would rather give my eyes than give my share to someone else to ride roughshod over my football club. It doesn't matter. We are still Chester FC. Not this mythical ivory tower dwelling two headed CFU beast. It doesn't exist. You may have a problem with this board, well the beauty of supporter ownership is that this wont be the board forever. That will change. Whilst we wait for the next stage of the boards plan, remember that the aim from day 1 was to have a sustainable club that would compete as high as it could without incurring debt. That is currently in the Conference. We need to support our club in remaining at this level as best we can. Nobody else is going to do it for us. COYB. UTFS. |
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Post by rcb on Jan 12, 2018 15:41:22 GMT
Another Maguire set up! Two weeks before a significant meeting which will challenge the integrity and ability of a spineless board who have allowed a free hand to Maguire, up pops a public statement. Well, what a surprise. Wow, and look who brought us the news. Non other than mini-maguire himself. Talk about a pathetic setup. Surely anyone with more than two GCSE’s will see this for what it is. You'd know all about pathetic, anonymously berating a 17 year old volunteer on a forum. I doubt you were invited by dmcnally to speak on his behalf. He comes across as a responsible and articulate person, well capable of defending his own views. You, on the other hand are little more than a patronising and interfering busybody. Who gave you the right to publish somebody’s age, or assume they were juvenile and incapable of defending himself? Whilst I do not always agree with dmcnally, I always respect his right to state his opinion. |
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Post by Dodge on Jan 12, 2018 16:11:03 GMT
You'd know all about pathetic, anonymously berating a 17 year old volunteer on a forum. I doubt you were invited by dmcnally to speak on his behalf. He comes across as a responsible and articulate person, well capable of defending his own views. You, on the other hand are little more than a patronising and interfering busybody. Who gave you the right to publish somebody’s age, or assume they were juvenile and incapable of defending himself? Whilst I do not always agree with dmcnally, I always respect his right to state his opinion. I'm guessing his age given he's publicly stated on this forum that he's a college student. I never suggested he was incapable of defending himself, particularly as he's already done so on this thread and I'm simply agreeing with his sentiments. I never intended to patronise him and doubt he'll feel patronised by my post, whereas your reference to him as "mini-Maguire" was clearly intended to patronise him. Although likewise I doubt he'll feel patronised or even be arsed what you think. I also find it hard to comprehend how you can claim to respect his right to state his opinion having just inferred that he was part of a "pathetic set-up" for simply sharing a link he saw on Twitter. Feel free to reply with more bile but I won't be replying as I can't be arsed getting into any more of an argument, and would rather the thread focused on this positive move by the board instead of being side tracked by sad, negative posters. |
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Post by stangandy on Jan 12, 2018 16:33:25 GMT
Agree with NWAS completely. I too was at the meeting albeit on the end of the phone, I didn't hear much denial in the room. The test now is for there to be a framework provided so that every Chester fan can do something - however small - to help our Club. There needs to be some difficult stuff done to ensure the long term viability of the Club and I don't think very many are ducking that, but in the short term in my opinion we can and should rally round. For me it is imperative that the Board provides a set of things that supporters can do to help and make sure that help is well organised - but we don't have to wait even for that. We know we have got 10 homes games that we have to try to win - the community ticket initiative has been launched - so lets try to get those gates up and create a positive atmosphere.
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Post by richard on Jan 12, 2018 17:28:17 GMT
So the statement and meeting is self confessed as a reaction to fan reaction? That is not a very proactive board. Blaming results for the dropped attendances and 'feel good factor'... ok, who has the hand on the overall tiller that affects the on the pitch stuff? The board. Working groups created and the fans will be asked to take the vision forward. What working groups? What vision? Sorry fans, can't tell you that yet. Sorry, but anyone who sees this statement as anything but deflection 'come on lads!' football fan passion nonsense rather than the serious answers needed deserves the club you will get. I do not think a single question posted on the other thread has been covered by this statement. I think the statement is a start. It is an admission to some failings and in holding last Mondays meeting they are taking steps to put their mistakes right. Although I have nothing to do with the statement other than offer it my support, I was at the meeting and there are plenty of issues that need addressing both in the short term and the long term. I think that the current board and the CEO understand that they are right up against it time wise, and they need to start delivering. Yes results make or break gates, but I'd agree with the statement that positivity from the supporters helps results. The community tickets offer is a superb way of getting people who are on a tight budget in to watch the match. Free for kids under 15, £10 for any accompanying adult is cheap as chips. It will also help atmosphere because that stand being empty just sucks the life out of the place. As cliched as it may be, these kids are the long term future of our club, it is a real positive step. There have been lots of problems with the club over the last few years and the silence of the current board has not helped that, but if everybody just walks away or moans and says "I told you so" - and for quite a few people that would be understandable - then we will literally have no club to support. If this city wants a club then as the hardcore it is surely our responsibility to help preserve that. We ALL need to start looking to the future and how in our own small way we can effect OUR local club for the better. It is too easy to say "if you are not happy with things join the board". That is simply not practical for most of us. But following the meeting and this statement it is important that the opportunity needs to be given to us as supporters (and owners if you choose to be a CFU member) that if you are not happy with things could you offer the club an hour a week? Could you suggest to a board member in an email a way things could be improved? Or a phone call? There really is no us and them. There is only us. You may pay on the gate. You may donate every month. You may just sit at home listening to Seals Live. You may think CFU needs to sell 49% or 100% of Chester FC to a rich businessman, or you may be like me and believe that I would rather give my eyes than give my share to someone else to ride roughshod over my football club. It doesn't matter. We are still Chester FC. Not this mythical ivory tower dwelling two headed CFU beast. It doesn't exist. You may have a problem with this board, well the beauty of supporter ownership is that this wont be the board forever. That will change. Whilst we wait for the next stage of the boards plan, remember that the aim from day 1 was to have a sustainable club that would compete as high as it could without incurring debt. That is currently in the Conference. We need to support our club in remaining at this level as best we can. Nobody else is going to do it for us. COYB. UTFS. Agree completely with Marks post. There is much to do, but the Board will need help. |
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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Jan 12, 2018 17:50:57 GMT
Given our current predicament and the recent debates on the matter, let's just give these guys a bit of leeway to see if things actually come to fruition. I hope they do although a small part of me is sceptical. Personally, I'm no great fan of these "call to arms" things; maybe they do energise a few people but I, for one, do not need others to tell me how I should go about supporting the team. I encourage the team as best I can at every game I attend as, like everyone else, I desperately want us to succeed. There's only one thing that encourages me to cheer a little bit louder and that is when we play to our best and we're competing in games. This has been in short supply up to now but there are signs of life and so I guess I will be a bit more vocal in the weeks to come 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 |
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