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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Jan 14, 2018 17:49:55 GMT
19 games in charge Won 3 (plus 1 on penalties) Drawn 6 Lost 10 15 goals for 28 against. Just my own maths, hopefully close to accurate? Happy to be corrected anywhere. Have included FA Trophy but not the pens in goals record. People can can make their own minds up......... Won 4/19, have I got that right?  ? |
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Post by whopper1 on Jan 14, 2018 18:05:50 GMT
Not very good really
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Post by btb on Jan 14, 2018 18:12:54 GMT
In fairness to MB we can criticise things like tactics, in game subs etc but who in all honesty could turn this team around? He has inherited an unbalanced squad of bottle jobs. Maybe a more experienced manager could have done a little better, but with the budget spunked away and no pot to piss in I could only see more of the same.
The big question for me, is can MB put a team together for next season's conference north season? Half of the budget is already taken with the nuggets on two year contracts?
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jan 14, 2018 18:21:54 GMT
19 games in charge Won 3 (plus 1 on penalties) Drawn 6 Lost 10 15 goals for 28 against. Just my own maths, hopefully close to accurate? Happy to be corrected anywhere. Have included FA Trophy but not the pens in goals record. People can can make their own minds up......... Won 4/19, have I got that right? ? I like to judge a manager by his last league game, it's clear he's made a difference recently so let's just focus on the future. The fact is he's inherited probably our worst ever squad of players, so posting about his record is neither accurate or helpful! And it only encourages the usual suspects! |
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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Jan 14, 2018 18:25:57 GMT
It seems fairly obvious the players aren’t “comfortable” with him. Their inconsistency suggests that. Performances at Fylde and Ebbsfleet show that they can compete at this level. Then their performances at Halifax Thurrock and h v Guiseley shows a lack of direction, confidence and appetite. Or all 3. They have, nearly, all had a decent career until now elsewhere.
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Post by Hannibal on Jan 14, 2018 18:33:23 GMT
His record is P16 W4 D5 L7 F14 A 24 Pts 17
Those are league games which are all that interest me.
Not great, but he's trying to make a silk purse out of a pigs ear.
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Post by massivefloodlights on Jan 14, 2018 19:24:47 GMT
Very underwhelming. Next two home games are make or break for him and the team on many levels. Disagree. Chester can not afford to sack another manger any time soon. Bignot is safe. |
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Post by gone4eva on Jan 14, 2018 19:54:34 GMT
I like to judge a manager by his last league game So if we win the last game of the season, but lose all before then and go down, you will be backing Bignot?! Just pointing out your logic gap 'fella'. |
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Post by rcb on Jan 14, 2018 19:58:47 GMT
Surely the facts about the squad, their contracts and budget were made known to all candidates at the time of interview. Indeed, full research by each candidate will have happened if they were serious about the job in advance of the interviews. If any candidate said that these issues would prevent them being able to make progress then they would not have been appointed. I am sick and tired of reading repeated excuses about what Bignot inherited.
He is not trying to make a silk purse out of a pigs ear. He is simply trying to end the season two places higher than when he started. I hope he succeeds and I support him trying.
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Post by gone4eva on Jan 14, 2018 19:59:48 GMT
Surely the facts about the squad, their contracts and budget were made known to all candidates at the time of interview. Indeed, full research by each candidate will have happened if they were serious about the job in advance of the interviews. If any candidate said that these issues would prevent them being able to make progress then they would not have been appointed. I am sick and tired of reading repeated excuses about what Bignot inherited. He is not trying to make a silk purse out of a pigs ear. He is simply trying to end the season two places higher than when he started. I hope he succeeds and I support him trying. Solid post. The job was taken on with due diligence taking place. |
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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Jan 14, 2018 21:08:31 GMT
Surely the facts about the squad, their contracts and budget were made known to all candidates at the time of interview. Indeed, full research by each candidate will have happened if they were serious about the job in advance of the interviews. If any candidate said that these issues would prevent them being able to make progress then they would not have been appointed. I am sick and tired of reading repeated excuses about what Bignot inherited. He is not trying to make a silk purse out of a pigs ear. He is simply trying to end the season two places higher than when he started. I hope he succeeds and I support him trying. Oh! And the players “were” part time, so Mr Bignot, you have this squad of part time players, do you want the job? And can you improve them? Said Mr Messiah (sorry but Maguires influence is I’m sure a problem) Since then theyve turned full full time and he’s signed enough players to have a whole new team. I don’t accept this “it’s the players fault” all the time. The buck stops where.........? |
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Jan 14, 2018 22:07:39 GMT
Bad day at the office yesterday it seems in a Mickey Mouse Cup.
We have three of the biggest games arguably since we reformed coming up back to back. We all know we could do with 7 points from these games.
So thinking positively after 5 points from three league away games.
We have a thread about the managers future etc.
How about backing him and the players for these big games?
Nothing much on here last weekend after the ebbsfleet win but a defeat and here we go again.
Can we not back MB and the players for these three massive games especially as the run of away points has given us a glimmer of hope.
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Post by iandychesterfc on Jan 15, 2018 9:44:03 GMT
To be fair i look at his permanent signings all of which have improved us. I have no doubt someone with his confidence thought he could turn us around but this squad is not for turning. The key things he has done is promote James Jones, get Tom Shaw back on the pitch and address our problem at right and left back.
I'm not arsed about the freebie / short term loans which were stop-gaps when we had no strikers, perhaps the 3 at the back hasn't worked out but you can see the logic behind it in a squad with no wingers and no money to get some in.
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Post by dmcnally on Jan 15, 2018 13:33:11 GMT
Better PPG than mcCarthy without £400,000 to spend.
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Post by yonnie1sinclair on Jan 15, 2018 14:07:56 GMT
Better PPG than mcCarthy without £400,000 to spend. imagine thinking it was a good idea giving McCarthy the managers job then imagine giving him all that money 😏 |
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Post by Captain Duff on Jan 15, 2018 14:53:54 GMT
19 games in charge Won 3 (plus 1 on penalties) Drawn 6 Lost 10 15 goals for 28 against. Just my own maths, hopefully close to accurate? Happy to be corrected anywhere. Have included FA Trophy but not the pens in goals record. People can can make their own minds up......... Won 4/19, have I got that right? ? I like to judge a manager by his last league game, it's clear he's made a difference recently so let's just focus on the future. The fact is he's inherited probably our worst ever squad of players, so posting about his record is neither accurate or helpful! And it only encourages the usual suspects!The OP is one of them |
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Post by Hannibal on Jan 15, 2018 15:33:51 GMT
Surely the facts about the squad, their contracts and budget were made known to all candidates at the time of interview. Indeed, full research by each candidate will have happened if they were serious about the job in advance of the interviews. If any candidate said that these issues would prevent them being able to make progress then they would not have been appointed. I am sick and tired of reading repeated excuses about what Bignot inherited. He is not trying to make a silk purse out of a pigs ear. He is simply trying to end the season two places higher than when he started. I hope he succeeds and I support him trying. You reckon this squad aren't a pig's ear? |
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Post by rcb on Jan 15, 2018 16:58:03 GMT
Surely the facts about the squad, their contracts and budget were made known to all candidates at the time of interview. Indeed, full research by each candidate will have happened if they were serious about the job in advance of the interviews. If any candidate said that these issues would prevent them being able to make progress then they would not have been appointed. I am sick and tired of reading repeated excuses about what Bignot inherited. He is not trying to make a silk purse out of a pigs ear. He is simply trying to end the season two places higher than when he started. I hope he succeeds and I support him trying. You reckon this squad aren't a pig's ear? Of course they are, but he’s trying to get a pigs ear up two league places by the end of the season. |
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Post by bb93 on Jan 17, 2018 17:01:33 GMT
17 points from 16 games means that if he’d been in charge all season we’d be level on points with Barrow. Not brilliant but certainly not terrible like some people are making out, especially baring in mind he didn’t have a pre season to get his ideas across
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Post by Hannibal on Jan 17, 2018 17:26:51 GMT
I wonder how many we'd take Barrow if it did turn out to be a winner-takes-all game?
I would hope at least 1,500, but maybe not.
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Post by hackett on Jan 17, 2018 19:11:20 GMT
I wonder how many we'd take Barrow if it did turn out to be a winner-takes-all game? I would hope at least 1,500, but maybe not. We'd take 1000 easy. |
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Post by blaconblues on Jan 17, 2018 20:14:50 GMT
The biggest disaster had is the board believing McCarthy was the right man for the job.
A man who was the first team coach and was key in tactical decisions and training of Burrs bunch. He failed with Burr and was clearly a cost cutting appointment.
Bignot has it all to do, whether we stay in this league or end up in the league below. We will struggle regardless next year, unfortunately.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 11:28:51 GMT
Give hime 5 more games then if no improvement get rid. |
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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Jan 18, 2018 17:26:15 GMT
He’s had 5 games too many already! Just my opinion, hard hat on!
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Post by devadiva on Jan 18, 2018 18:16:07 GMT
Will be interesting to see what effect the Moore appointment has. I think it’ll be positive as it’s a tried and tested pairing. Let’s give it a chance. Not sure what the point is of getting rid of MB unless there’s a better alternative who’s interested in joining us. Getting rid for the sake of it is cutting your nose off to spite your face.
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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Jan 18, 2018 18:42:13 GMT
Will be interesting to see what effect the Moore appointment has. I think it’ll be positive as it’s a tried and tested pairing. Let’s give it a chance. Not sure what the point is of getting rid of MB unless there’s a better alternative who’s interested in joining us. Getting rid for the sake of it is cutting your nose off to spite your face. You wouldn’t prefer Graham Barrow? |
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Post by devadiva on Jan 18, 2018 19:36:49 GMT
Will be interesting to see what effect the Moore appointment has. I think it’ll be positive as it’s a tried and tested pairing. Let’s give it a chance. Not sure what the point is of getting rid of MB unless there’s a better alternative who’s interested in joining us. Getting rid for the sake of it is cutting your nose off to spite your face. You wouldn’t prefer Graham Barrow? Perhaps - but can you (1) guarantee he’d take it if offered and (2) tell me how we would pay for him, MB and whatever we still owe McC all at the same time?! |
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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Jan 18, 2018 19:44:52 GMT
I guarantee he’d take it if offered, he was on Radio Manchester and said as much, wants to get back on the coaching pitch.
We’d pay for him comfortably because he’d fund himself by the 100-200 he’d put on the gate, infact the club would make money out of it!
MB has only a few months left on his contract..........like I said Barrow would add money to the club 200 at £10 pays his and Bignots wages.
I’d heard McC has been settled partly because he has another job.
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Post by devadiva on Jan 18, 2018 19:58:48 GMT
I guarantee he’d take it if offered, he was on Radio Manchester and said as much, wants to get back on the coaching pitch. We’d pay for him comfortably because he’d fund himself by the 100-200 he’d put on the gate, infact the club would make money out of it! MB has only a few months left on his contract..........like I said Barrow would add money to the club 200 at £10 pays his and Bignots wages. I’d heard McC has been settled partly because he has another job. Given how long it took the board to grow a spine and sack McC I just don’t see MB going anywhere at the moment - certainly not before survival is all but impossible. Maybe you’ll have a better shout for what you want if we only take a point or two from the next 3 games. |
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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Jan 18, 2018 21:13:29 GMT
I guarantee he’d take it if offered, he was on Radio Manchester and said as much, wants to get back on the coaching pitch. We’d pay for him comfortably because he’d fund himself by the 100-200 he’d put on the gate, infact the club would make money out of it! MB has only a few months left on his contract..........like I said Barrow would add money to the club 200 at £10 pays his and Bignots wages. I’d heard McC has been settled partly because he has another job. Given how long it took the board to grow a spine and sack McC I just don’t see MB going anywhere at the moment - certainly not before survival is all but impossible. Maybe you’ll have a better shout for what you want if we only take a point or two from the next 3 games. I don’t want us to lose any games. We have to stay in this league. |
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