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Post by Si on Jan 20, 2018 17:31:04 GMT
I’m not angry anymore, I accepted relegation after the Guiseley game. That might seem a strange thing to say with so many points to play for but I look at the teams above us and they are all better than us. And we can’t string a decent run of results together and are awful at home........the hallmarks of a relegation team. We are basically playing the season out and might get the odd pleasant result along the way, that’s why I was more annoyed last week as at least the Trophy gave us something to go for. Gateshead were streets ahead of us, and they were supposed to be one of the teams that we were going to drag into it......no chance.
What baffles me is that we bring in a right wing back/winger and play him in centre midfield whilst persisting with playing Kingsley on the right who looks more and more uncomfortable there with each week. The only positives I can take are that we at least started to play some more intricate football when Crawford and Mahon came on, which was a damn sight more watchable than seeing us punt aimless balls forward and losing second balls.
Who told Harry White that he should take up professional football? One of the worst strikers I’ve seen play for us. No wonder Solihull were happy to let him go without a fee whilst he was under contract.
Something tells me it might be tricky moderating on here tonight!
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Post by cfcforme on Jan 20, 2018 17:32:20 GMT
Just listening to Bignot's post match interview and its very worrying. The same old clichés, dodging the question and bulls*hit. He seems happy that we're on track - Wtf....
Let's all be honest, we're down no doubt about it. We also can't afford to pay Bignot off and he's never going to walk because he needs the money and probably thinks he can keep his job to manage us in the league below next season (yeah right). So we've got the rest of the season to watch poor players in a badly managed team get tonked. Oh to be a Chester fan....
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Post by Helsby Blue on Jan 20, 2018 17:40:03 GMT
That was truly awful today. We simply do not look like the players know what the tactics are and for me that is solely Bignots fault. He has made no difference to us and we are as bad now as we ever were under McCarthy. Dawson was a disgrace shirked every challenge and jogged around at half pace and don’t get me started on the new lad. Crawford and Mahon both tried to move us forward and Harry White ran his bollocks off all game but once again the quality in midfield is non existent. Needed 4 points as the absolute minimum over these 2 games.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 17:43:22 GMT
I wonder if some "home truths" were said at HT
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Post by tonya on Jan 20, 2018 17:45:18 GMT
The irony of this when you're on your rivals forum while your own team are playing. I'm a football fan, some people just come on here and just moan. I know we have people on RedPassion who moan and we are near the top, but we get behind our team. So come on get behind yours. I started watching Chester when we were fighting relegation many years back in late 60's-season 67/68. I can still recall losing at home to Bradford City, 2-3. The atmosphere and the support though was electric and it was hooked me in to support the club through thick and thin. There wasn't social media to express doubts and as a young kid it didn't enter my mind to be negative and I just looked forward to the next game. It seems though that conditions have changed in terms especially of atmosphere and excitement. My memory was that we were always close to getting a result and made chances. We also had a goalscorer, Eddie Loydon who gave us hope.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 17:53:12 GMT
15 minutes of half decent football and a consolation goal does not disguise a shocking performance.
Yet again, we didn't look like a home team Yet again, a team passing through us with pace carved us open and scored almost at will Yet again, a non-existant midfield exposed our defence and failed to create for the supposed strike force
Yet again, for me, it's not just the defeat that's painful (it is!), it's the manner of the defeat.
If there were signs of improvement, I'd be a bit more optimistic but we are a very poor team in a very poor league and are, I fear, doomed to relegation unless there is a massive improvement.
Teams know exactly how to play against us and know that, at home especially, we're an easy touch.
Sorry folks, but if you can't win at home and/or beat those around you there's only one outcome.
I cling to hope but it's almost gone now
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Post by btb on Jan 20, 2018 17:54:14 GMT
Shocking that today. The manager hasn't got a clue. New signing thrown straight in. Didn't look fit or interested. As si says Harry White is useless. Three times he shot when he could have played the ball to better placed players. James swatted off the ball like a fly. I wouldn't make me but Gateshead were there for the taking. Just go Bignot. It's not about being a Bignot hater it's about a manager who hasn't got a clue. He's making things worse.
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Post by sealandender on Jan 20, 2018 17:56:14 GMT
I'm from the same era . well said . we could do with an Eddie Loyden now . keep the faith blues fans .. and pay your cfu subs in may and join the lottery ..
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Post by Lobster on Jan 20, 2018 18:03:53 GMT
The annoying thing is our draw there was a very good result. We were making progress then. But along comes a banana skin FA Trophy tie and we go back into our shells, then it's back to the same old rubbish at the Deva.
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Post by yossergolf on Jan 20, 2018 18:04:56 GMT
Gutless, spineless, lack of passion describes this shambles of players we have. No decent football played and lack of system, other than pass to Astles to hoof upfield. Midfield totally lacked shape, no creation - nothing. There may be some casualties this week and not just on the playing side, could have something to do with behind scenes issues - let’s wait and see!!
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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Jan 20, 2018 18:19:38 GMT
I wonder if some "home truths" were said at HT Hopefully. To the Manager
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Post by ubb1689 on Jan 20, 2018 18:25:59 GMT
I’ve seen a lot of Chester teams over the years but this current crop are at the bottom of any pile. But at the same time they’re being guided by a manager who needs guidance himself. Something has to change. It’s becoming embarrassing. The fans don’t deserve this.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Jan 20, 2018 18:30:52 GMT
It’s just getting even worse now. Very poor display overall today. What got me today was how little our players were closing down Gateshead. They just seemed to let them have the ball and and use it freely. Again their was little heart and fight in that performance. Why can’t we change our style of play a bit? Why can’t we look a bit more adventurous on and off the ball for a change? It’s depressing having to watch similar performances at home all the time. To be fair, after White scored in the second half we got into the game more and created more opportunities, but we only looked decent for about 20 minutes of the game. Murombedzi looked quite poor. Made quite a few errors and I wasn’t overly surprised to see him get subbed off at half-time. Hopefully he will improve but he didn’t look as good as I thought he would be today. Yet again, we lose to a team who are near us battling it out to beat the drop. It’s so frustrating with how many bottom half sides we have easily got beaten by this season. Let’s just see what happens on Tuesday night. I was quite optimistic before the match, although I won’t be surprised if Hartlepool do win. The players will get my support as always, but on and off the pitch we have definitely accepted relegation.
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Post by devadiva on Jan 20, 2018 18:32:29 GMT
I’m not angry anymore, I accepted relegation after the Guiseley game. That might seem a strange thing to say with so many points to play for but I look at the teams above us and they are all better than us. And we can’t string a decent run of results together and are awful at home........the hallmarks of a relegation team. We are basically playing the season out and might get the odd pleasant result along the way, that’s why I was more annoyed last week as at least the Trophy gave us something to go for. Gateshead were streets ahead of us, and they were supposed to be one of the teams that we were going to drag into it......no chance. What baffles me is that we bring in a right wing back/winger and play him in centre midfield whilst persisting with playing Kingsley on the right who looks more and more uncomfortable there with each week. The only positives I can take are that we at least started to play some more intricate football when Crawford and Mahon came on, which was a damn sight more watchable than seeing us punt aimless balls forward and losing second balls. Who told Harry White that he should take up professional football? One of the worst strikers I’ve seen play for us. No wonder Solihull were happy to let him go without a fee whilst he was under contract. Something tells me it might be tricky moderating on here tonight! That’s a bit harsh - Harry White ran his bits off today. More than can be said for most of them. Every ball to him came from a punt on the edge of our box coming down with snow on it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 18:32:36 GMT
With bated breath I await the latest statement and call to arms from those upstairs telling us it'll be alright on the night.
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Post by Rio The Ball Bag on Jan 20, 2018 18:35:06 GMT
Yeah there will be another please give us money so we can squander it on shite statement soon.
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Post by gone4eva on Jan 20, 2018 18:35:58 GMT
With bated breath I await the latest statement and call to arms from those upstairs telling us it'll be alright on the night. 'Get behind the lads', 'all in it together', 'our biggest ever challenge', 'here are a load of jobs a committee has decided so make sure you volunteer', 'call on the fans', 'need support more than ever' etczzzzz
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Post by tarvinblue on Jan 20, 2018 18:44:31 GMT
I just feel like everyone is going through the motions now - players, management, the board, fans. As a fan I don't turn up with any expectations anymore and I leave not even feeling disappointed. I saw what I expected to see, but I'll be back there on Tuesday night - again with no expectation. The hope and expectation have long since left me and the apathy that has engulfed me and many others is just an outcome of years of apathy off the pitch in the board room. The moment Mark Maguire was interviewed after the Boreham Wood game last April and stated that he was backing JM 100%, we were sentenced to relegation this season. However, that was just yet another point in time that further evidenced the divide that has long existed between the boardroom and the fans. There has to be sweeping changes off the pitch over the next few months and a root and branch investigation into how we have ended up in this situation. Those who have sat on that board over the last 4 seasons should be ashamed of themselves. Bar for a small handful, who very quickly moved on, they have badly let down our football club and each and every fan they represent. They should be ashamed of themselves and I hope on Thursday evening they are forced to squirm in their seats and answer some very awkward questions about their performance. It's just incredibly sad that the highs of those first four seasons have been replaced by this deep sense of failure that was completely unavoidable, but for the selfish and self-centred attitude of our elected representatives.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 18:47:04 GMT
With bated breath I await the latest statement and call to arms from those upstairs telling us it'll be alright on the night. 'Get behind the lads', 'all in it together', 'our biggest ever challenge', 'here are a load of jobs a committee has decided so make sure you volunteer', 'call on the fans', 'need support more than ever' etczzzzz Dont do anything and the club will fold in March zzzzz
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Post by jb on Jan 20, 2018 18:51:48 GMT
Shocking performance once again. The last three games I’ve seen (Halifax, Guiseley and today’s farce) have been totally abject. I’m losing interest in going.
Lucas Dawson is nowhere near good enough for this league and Mahon should start in his place until he gets injured again. Dawson touched the ball three times in 45 mins and his defending for the second was embarrassing.
I’d just play the likes of Crawford and Jones until the end of the season. They show more pride than the likes of Dawson.
At least there is only three months left of this junk and the rubbish Bignot is serving up on a weekly basis.
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Post by Al on Jan 20, 2018 18:57:45 GMT
What it needs is less talk and more action by those decision makers.
There are people in the sidelines, good people who want to help make a difference to the club. But in order to do that it needs real action by the CFU board.
The last 12 months supporting this club have been hard work, but we still continue to support it in the hope that things will get better. At the moment I feel we have to brace ourselves for a very bumpy ride over the next 12 to 18 months unless real change happens by the end of April. That means, Mark Maguire gone, Tony Allen out/hours reduced to one day per week, and we instead invest in our supporters and working groups each overseen by a director.
One man cannot run a football club on their own like Maguire has tried to do. The cracks have appeared over the summer and now we have gaping crevices.
Time to get shot of Maguire, bring the working groups online and fully operational before end of the season and bring in a young and enthusiastic commercial manager to focus on our sponsorships and commercial revenues again
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Post by Anders on Jan 20, 2018 19:02:40 GMT
I don’t know what we were trying to do in the first half, playing so narrow when they have two quick wide players just running around them all. Won’t judge ‘Shep’ too harshly as I felt sorry for the lad, came in yesterday and just plonked out of position straight away. Bizarrely a position he would appear more familiar with was also occupied by someone out of position in James. That sort of thing is annoying, I don’t know what the thinking behind it is.
Felt it got so easy for Gateshead that they got complacent and it allowed us to get back in the game a bit late on. We had a bit of a go in the last 20 minutes or so in fairness but too much damage already done.
The Good - Tom Crawford was certainly a positive, kept it simple, passed the ball around well and always made himself available, hope he starts on Tuesday. Mahon improved us but his final ball was often lacking. Akintunde tried hard as he so often does and Halls had a surprisingly decent outing at right back. Hornby made a few good saves.
The Bad – Turnbull had a really poor day, too passive and played god knows how many suicide balls to team mates. Took the free kicks which were poor, one of them in the first half he just passed it straight out of play. Gough was torn apart by York but picked up a bit late on. Similar struggle to the one he had at Halifax last month when up against MacDonald, bit of pace will catch him out pretty easily. Probably the less said about Dawson the better, needs taking out of the side. James struggled again out of position. Wasn’t James Jones’ finest day either, he’ll have plenty of good ones but this wasn’t one, get the feeling whoever gave him man of the match decided on that before the start.
Tactically dreadful, was like 4-3-1-2 or something like that with players out of position. Ugh, just want to forget.
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Post by Maravilla on Jan 20, 2018 19:15:44 GMT
Crawford should start on Tuesday. Came into a very tough situation but moved well off the ball (maybe Turnbull, James and Dawson could learn a thing or two) and was always showing for the ball. Kept his passes simple and we actually started to play some nice football once he was on the pitch.
Agree that it was strange to play Murombedzi out of position in what seemed like a central attacking midfield position. Could have played Mahon on the left of midfield and Murombedzi on the right (4-4-2) - with the added bonus of getting to drop one of the woeful James, Turnbull or Dawson.
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Post by btb on Jan 20, 2018 19:23:00 GMT
Crawford should start on Tuesday. Came into a very tough situation but moved well off the ball (maybe Turnbull, James and Dawson could learn a thing or two) and was always showing for the ball. Kept his passes simple and we actually started to play some nice football once he was on the pitch. Agree that it was strange to play Murombedzi out of position in what seemed like a central attacking midfield position. Could have played Mahon on the left of midfield and Murombedzi on the right (4-4-2) - with the added bonus of getting to drop one of the woeful James, Turnbull or Dawson. Why do something simple like that when you can play the 4-1-1-1-2-1 Christmas pudding formation. The manager is clueless. So far out of his depth it's untrue.
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Post by shango on Jan 20, 2018 19:27:05 GMT
'Get behind the lads', 'all in it together', 'our biggest ever challenge', 'here are a load of jobs a committee has decided so make sure you volunteer', 'call on the fans', 'need support more than ever' etczzzzz Dont do anything and the club will fold in March zzzzz That's what some poster's want mate.Just so that they can have their ' I told you so' moment without ever offering f.a. constructive. Very sad.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Jan 20, 2018 19:32:04 GMT
Not really surprised by that. I knew weeks ago we were down. The problem is that there is zero pace, in the team and the midfield is not existent. Add to that, the lack of creativity and a powderpuff attack and it is a lethal mix. Personally, I would play Jonathon Jones and Tom Crawford until the end of the season. Theese two lads are the only positives to come out of this season. Crawford played more forward passes. in 45 minutes than Dawson has done all season. Get Crawford and Gary Roberts in midfield. Jones along side Astles and Archer upfront and transfer list every player on a 2 year contract. (turnbull and Hannah should be shown the door). Get Matty Waters and Nathan Brown back from loan and see what they can do? The rest of the squad can be cleaned out at the end of the season.
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Post by footieman on Jan 20, 2018 19:38:26 GMT
Paying off 2 previous manager's wont allow for us to sack another.It's tough shat i'm afraid but that's our financial posistion. Jon McCarthy was paid off at the time he left the club. It would just be Bignot to pay off now. He was paid off in 4 instalments
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Post by Si on Jan 20, 2018 19:46:11 GMT
I don’t know what we were trying to do in the first half, playing so narrow when they have two quick wide players just running around them all. Won’t judge ‘Shep’ too harshly as I felt sorry for the lad, came in yesterday and just plonked out of position straight away. Bizarrely a position he would appear more familiar with was also occupied by someone out of position in James. That sort of thing is annoying, I don’t know what the thinking behind it is. Felt it got so easy for Gateshead that they got complacent and it allowed us to get back in the game a bit late on. We had a bit of a go in the last 20 minutes or so in fairness but too much damage already done. The Good - Tom Crawford was certainly a positive, kept it simple, passed the ball around well and always made himself available, hope he starts on Tuesday. Mahon improved us but his final ball was often lacking. Akintunde tried hard as he so often does and Halls had a surprisingly decent outing at right back. Hornby made a few good saves. The Bad – Turnbull had a really poor day, too passive and played god knows how many suicide balls to team mates. Took the free kicks which were poor, one of them in the first half he just passed it straight out of play. Gough was torn apart by York but picked up a bit late on. Similar struggle to the one he had at Halifax last month when up against MacDonald, bit of pace will catch him out pretty easily. Probably the less said about Dawson the better, needs taking out of the side. James struggled again out of position. Wasn’t James Jones’ finest day either, he’ll have plenty of good ones but this wasn’t one, get the feeling whoever gave him man of the match decided on that before the start. Tactically dreadful, was like 4-3-1-2 or something like that with players out of position. Ugh, just want to forget. I really think Turnbull’s legs have gone. Can see there was a player in there once upon a time but whatever injuries he has had have finished him. The amount of times he got skipped past today or just simply unable to get back in position was embarrassing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 19:47:56 GMT
Not really surprised by that. I knew weeks ago we were down. The problem is that there is zero pace, in the team and the midfield is not existent. Add to that, the lack of creativity and a powderpuff attack and it is a lethal mix. Personally, I would play Jonathon Jones and Tom Crawford until the end of the season. Theese two lads are the only positives to come out of this season. Crawford played more forward passes. in 45 minutes than Dawson has done all season. Get Crawford and Gary Roberts in midfield. Jones along side Astles and Archer upfront and transfer list every player on a 2 year contract. (turnbull and Hannah should be shown the door). Get Matty Waters and Nathan Brown back from loan and see what they can do? The rest of the squad can be cleaned out at the end of the season. I think Brown is back been back for a few weeks now
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Post by Jack on Jan 20, 2018 19:49:56 GMT
The truly frustrating thing about this group is that they can actually compete. For 40 minutes of the first and 25 minutes of the second, we were totally in the game. Not playing particularly well, but in the game. But we let in a ridiculous goal and you just knew this group were going to crumble. They are as soft a group of players as we'll ever see, no resilience or steel whatsoever. Bignot can go on about the environment, but the supporters were well behind the team up until 2-0.
His tactics today were identical to McCarthy's at the start of the season. No movement and no width whatsoever. If Gough or Halls had the ball, they didn't have a single option in front of them. Strikers weren't running the channels, 'wingers' were in the centre circle. That's all well and good away from home, but we need so much more at the Deva.
I know we're limited, but put LRT on the left wing and Mahon on the right and tell them to keep the width. Then, at the very least, we're a threat to the opposition. We didn't lay a glove on Gateshead today who were a really average side.
Crawford was the only plus today. He looked neat and tidy, he'd be starting on Tuesday for me. Halls was much improved from his previous outings at right back too.
We need a change of intent on Tuesday or else there's no point in turning up.
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