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Post by 1paulcarden on Jan 21, 2018 23:06:28 GMT
Is he the shittest manager in our history? He has to be up there. All those blaming Bignot have to look at what he inherited from ‘The Gaffa.’ A squad devoid of heart, pace & ability. By blaming Bignot you’re effectively trusting these players. I wouldn’t trust most of them to defend a 4-0 lead. Jon McCarthy (with a sprinkling of incompetence from Mark McGuire) has ruined this season and perhaps the entire club. I’d love to know what Turnbull, Halls & McCombe earn. I bet it’s hideous. You have to seriously question a bloke who had no contacts in football whatsoever. He signed players on either previous links to this club or links with each other rather than signing players who could fit into a system/squad/team and that’s why we’re fucked. Bignot has very little to do with it.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jan 21, 2018 23:07:08 GMT
Gordon Hill.
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Jan 21, 2018 23:09:27 GMT
Is he the shittest manager in our history? He has to be up there. All those blaming Bignot have to look at what he inherited from ‘The Gaffa.’ A squad devoid of heart, pace & ability. By blaming Bignot you’re effectively trusting these players. I wouldn’t trust most of them to defend a 4-0 lead. Jon McCarthy (with a sprinkling of incompetence from Mark McGuire) has ruined this season and perhaps the entire club. I’d love to know what Turnbull, Halls & McCombe earn. I bet it’s hideous. You have to seriously question a bloke who had no contacts in football whatsoever. He signed players on either previous links to this club or links with each other rather than signing players who could fit into a system/squad/team and that’s why we’re fucked. Bignot has very little to do with it. Good post. Spot on.
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Post by peterkaysock on Jan 21, 2018 23:35:33 GMT
Is he the shittest manager in our history? He has to be up there. All those blaming Bignot have to look at what he inherited from ‘The Gaffa.’ A squad devoid of heart, pace & ability. By blaming Bignot you’re effectively trusting these players. I wouldn’t trust most of them to defend a 4-0 lead. Jon McCarthy (with a sprinkling of incompetence from Mark McGuire) has ruined this season and perhaps the entire club. I’d love to know what Turnbull, Halls & McCombe earn. I bet it’s hideous. You have to seriously question a bloke who had no contacts in football whatsoever. He signed players on either previous links to this club or links with each other rather than signing players who could fit into a system/squad/team and that’s why we’re fucked. Bignot has very little to do with it. To be honest I think everyone thought we would do well this season. I was really excited until I seen a few pre match games and seen how we were setting up for each game. Sitting deep etc. Thought we may be trouble. Then I thought a new manager dropping in with fresh ideas and we would see some form. Sadly the team is that unbalanced and was that unfit due the Willy nilly attitude from our previous manager. Bignot had a big job. Sadly though I think he is not set out for it.
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Post by whopper1 on Jan 22, 2018 1:10:38 GMT
Is he the shittest manager in our history? He has to be up there. All those blaming Bignot have to look at what he inherited from ‘The Gaffa.’ A squad devoid of heart, pace & ability. By blaming Bignot you’re effectively trusting these players. I wouldn’t trust most of them to defend a 4-0 lead. Jon McCarthy (with a sprinkling of incompetence from Mark McGuire) has ruined this season and perhaps the entire club. I’d love to know what Turnbull, Halls & McCombe earn. I bet it’s hideous. You have to seriously question a bloke who had no contacts in football whatsoever. He signed players on either previous links to this club or links with each other rather than signing players who could fit into a system/squad/team and that’s why we’re fucked. Bignot has very little to do with it. definitely the shit test manager we've had in the 35 year's I've been watching them, followed in 2nd position by bignott
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Post by Lobster on Jan 22, 2018 7:18:41 GMT
The signs were definitely there that we were in for a season of struggle. Bookies and tipsters picked up on them but we largely ignored them.
Problems included:
- A manager who the fans had no confidence in, and who had presided over one of the worst runs in the club's history, being allowed to stay on - Solving the problem of Iwelumo's fleeting presence on the bench by turning our best midfielder into an emergency squad manager and a rookie assistant manager - Genuinely thinking a back four of Halls, McCombe, Astles, Rowe-Turner and NOBODY ELSE was sufficient for the whole season. Can you believe that? - Poor players given contract extensions. Davies wasn't wanted by Leek Town, Chapell has had plenty of time to show he can't cut it at this level, and I don't even know what's happened to Joyce - is he still with us. - No width or creativity in the side, except for the underperforming Chapell, and a Craig Mahon who hasn't enjoyed much form or fitness for years.
Bignot was brought in to do a job, and so far he's not succeeding at it, but I feel to compare him to McCarthy is unfair. We'll probably never know what Bignot could've done if he had been appointed in May with the budget McCarthy was given.
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Jan 22, 2018 7:23:19 GMT
Is he the shittest manager in our history? He has to be up there. All those blaming Bignot have to look at what he inherited from ‘The Gaffa.’ A squad devoid of heart, pace & ability. By blaming Bignot you’re effectively trusting these players. I wouldn’t trust most of them to defend a 4-0 lead. Jon McCarthy (with a sprinkling of incompetence from Mark McGuire) has ruined this season and perhaps the entire club. I’d love to know what Turnbull, Halls & McCombe earn. I bet it’s hideous. You have to seriously question a bloke who had no contacts in football whatsoever. He signed players on either previous links to this club or links with each other rather than signing players who could fit into a system/squad/team and that’s why we’re fucked. Bignot has very little to do with it. While I agree Macca was awful and should have been dealt with much much earlier, Bignot isn't blameless either. The lack of organisation we keep seeing is down to him. Yes he's got naff all to work with but you can still make yourselves tough to beat if you set up properly. With all that said, there's deeper problems at the club than the team manager.
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Post by tinagsdog on Jan 22, 2018 8:59:50 GMT
Ray Mathias didn't win a game, but was he caretaker?
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Post by bing on Jan 22, 2018 10:00:01 GMT
In December '16 he was touted as one of the rising stars in management on a BBC sport article, so when he was offered a long contract I don't think many complained. They are complaining now of course, but given what happened, it irks me that some fans are so quick to blame MM for being part of the decision-making process when the decision seemed to offer the club stability at the time.
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Post by g1 on Jan 22, 2018 10:35:25 GMT
I don't like macca but putting the blame all on him is harsh the buck stops with the board who buy the way sanctioned everything he did from hiring him to extending his contract to keeping him for too long the board I'm afraid are as responsible
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Post by g1 on Jan 22, 2018 10:36:33 GMT
Is he the shittest manager in our history? He has to be up there. All those blaming Bignot have to look at what he inherited from ‘The Gaffa.’ A squad devoid of heart, pace & ability. By blaming Bignot you’re effectively trusting these players. I wouldn’t trust most of them to defend a 4-0 lead. Jon McCarthy (with a sprinkling of incompetence from Mark McGuire) has ruined this season and perhaps the entire club. I’d love to know what Turnbull, Halls & McCombe earn. I bet it’s hideous. You have to seriously question a bloke who had no contacts in football whatsoever. He signed players on either previous links to this club or links with each other rather than signing players who could fit into a system/squad/team and that’s why we’re fucked. Bignot has very little to do with it. definitely the shit test manager we've had in the 35 year's I've been watching them, followed in 2nd position by bignott got to put rush in there as well
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Post by dmcnally on Jan 22, 2018 10:57:41 GMT
The signs were definitely there that we were in for a season of struggle. Bookies and tipsters picked up on them but we largely ignored them. Problems included: - A manager who the fans had no confidence in, and who had presided over one of the worst runs in the club's history, being allowed to stay on - Solving the problem of Iwelumo's fleeting presence on the bench by turning our best midfielder into an emergency squad manager and a rookie assistant manager - Genuinely thinking a back four of Halls, McCombe, Astles, Rowe-Turner and NOBODY ELSE was sufficient for the whole season. Can you believe that? - Poor players given contract extensions. Davies wasn't wanted by Leek Town, Chapell has had plenty of time to show he can't cut it at this level, and I don't even know what's happened to Joyce - is he still with us. - No width or creativity in the side, except for the underperforming Chapell, and a Craig Mahon who hasn't enjoyed much form or fitness for years. Bignot was brought in to do a job, and so far he's not succeeding at it, but I feel to compare him to McCarthy is unfair. We'll probably never know what Bignot could've done if he had been appointed in May with the budget McCarthy was given. Hope we stick with Bignot if we’re relegated as he knows the league and won it on a tight budget with Solihull. Can spot a gem aswell which could be sold on for £££. Can someone get on the phone to Leicester and ask Claude Puel to get Hughes in the first team, we need a bit of money.
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Post by jb on Jan 22, 2018 12:23:47 GMT
We've specialised in appointing dire managers for years. Ian Rush and Steve Burr can also challenge for the title as well. Terry Smith, Merde Maison (or whatever he was called), Mike Pejic and the above mentioned Hill are also contenders. Barrow, Atkins and Young are the only three decent ones I've seen here.
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Post by rcb on Jan 22, 2018 12:53:30 GMT
In the absence of facts and figures it is difficult to draw firm conclusions. What could or should have happened is all history now and will not, in the short term, keep us in this division. The board have clearly been getting away with murder but are unpaid. In allowing the rainy day fund to be used, and failing to bring in the necessary sponsorships (if true) then money can be obtained by getting rid of the CEO with immediate effect. Bignot has failed to deliver his promised rise up the league so he too must go, if he was contracted correctly. All of the claims about Bignot’s success at a lower level ignores the fact that Neil Young also won that league, but in a far better fashion in terms of points and goals. Young and Barrow know the area, and the local players. We can bring in quality local part time players, and of a better standard than what is here at present. I couldn’t name an existing squad member who would have got into the 2012/13 team, and that includes Tom Shaw. In short, Maguire and Bignot out, seriously cull the current squad, get Barrow or Young in, also local part time talent in, and go for staying in this league. All achievable, but I sadly know nothing of substance will be done. What currently exists is dead in the water. Shame, because survival is still a strong possibility.
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Post by Hannibal on Jan 22, 2018 13:13:45 GMT
Is he the shittest manager in our history? He has to be up there. All those blaming Bignot have to look at what he inherited from ‘The Gaffa.’ A squad devoid of heart, pace & ability. By blaming Bignot you’re effectively trusting these players. I wouldn’t trust most of them to defend a 4-0 lead. Jon McCarthy (with a sprinkling of incompetence from Mark McGuire) has ruined this season and perhaps the entire club. I’d love to know what Turnbull, Halls & McCombe earn. I bet it’s hideous. You have to seriously question a bloke who had no contacts in football whatsoever. He signed players on either previous links to this club or links with each other rather than signing players who could fit into a system/squad/team and that’s why we’re fucked. Bignot has very little to do with it. Where are they?
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