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Post by chesterken on Jan 24, 2018 20:55:26 GMT
how many missing fans would come back to try and save the club?
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Post by hackett on Jan 24, 2018 20:58:02 GMT
The hardcore we will always have, no offence intended but the 'hardcore' are ageing and we don't seem to be replacing them. Yes, we have young fans but not half the amount we did when I was growing up.
Drastic change of form or a win or be relegated game is the only thing that will see us see 2k this season.
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Post by rjshbdhmtrm on Jan 24, 2018 21:01:00 GMT
If they could see a genuine effort from a well balanced new CFU committee with real purpose, then yes the numbers will increase very slowly. After tomorrow’s meeting, the revamped committee are in a complete win win situation as we financially cannot be any worse off than at present.
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Jan 24, 2018 21:36:58 GMT
The hardcore we will always have, no offence intended but the 'hardcore' are ageing and we don't seem to be replacing them. Yes, we have young fans but not half the amount we did when I was growing up. Drastic change of form or a win or be relegated game is the only thing that will see us see 2k this season. Tranmere the exception.
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Post by uptheseals on Jan 25, 2018 14:41:53 GMT
Its time people started coming back, those staying away are doing the club damage as its one of our only sorces of income down, At the end of the day the team and the club need the fans now more than ever and by staying away it shows peoples true colours wether if they really care about the club as much as they claim too!
Yeah i understand the footballs crap and were doing poor atm but at this moment in time the best thing the fans can do is turn up in numbers and get behind the team
UTS
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Post by Derry Blue on Jan 25, 2018 14:46:00 GMT
Its time people started coming back, those staying away are doing the club damage as its one of our only sorces of income down, At the end of the day the team and the club need the fans now more than ever and by staying away it shows peoples true colours wether if they really care about the club as much as they claim too! Yeah i understand the footballs crap and were doing poor atm but at this moment in time the best thing the fans can do is turn up in numbers and get behind the team UTS On another thread, we've been discussion division among our fans/supporters and how it might be harming us. I come back on to DC and there's another holier than thou gobbling off.
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Post by canadianexile on Jan 25, 2018 14:47:51 GMT
Its time people started coming back, those staying away are doing the club damage as its one of our only sorces of income down, At the end of the day the team and the club need the fans now more than ever and by staying away it shows peoples true colours wether if they really care about the club as much as they claim too! Yeah i understand the footballs crap and were doing poor atm but at this moment in time the best thing the fans can do is turn up in numbers and get behind the team UTS Don't worry, we know you're a better supporter than those of which you talk, but keep reminding us anyway.
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Jan 25, 2018 14:49:37 GMT
Imagine turning your back on your own club though? Wow.
Shame on them
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Post by uptheseals on Jan 25, 2018 14:52:44 GMT
Its time people started coming back, those staying away are doing the club damage as its one of our only sorces of income down, At the end of the day the team and the club need the fans now more than ever and by staying away it shows peoples true colours wether if they really care about the club as much as they claim too! Yeah i understand the footballs crap and were doing poor atm but at this moment in time the best thing the fans can do is turn up in numbers and get behind the team UTS Don't worry, we know you're a better supporter than those of which you talk, but keep reminding us anyway. Not at all what i'm trying to say but whatever you say, Dont think i'm better than anyone at all its just facts that we do need fans back in these tough times.
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Post by btb on Jan 25, 2018 14:54:20 GMT
I go to as many homes as I can and for the last 18 months there's been very little chance of seeing a win. Home form has gone beyond woeful. I pay my entrance money as my little way of trying to safeguard the future of the club. Many just don't seem to have the enthusiasm to do this anymore. Personally, I think people should make the effort to attend as many home games as they can but let's face it you can't really blame people for not turning up. The football and attitude of the players and management stinks the place out. Match days down there are woeful. From the moment you get down there it's gloom. In the blues bar you could hear a pin drop. Pre match/ half time entertainment is pretty more zero. It's boring and has turned in to a painful expirience. Hands on hearts, other than the social aspect of spending time with family and friends who genuinely enjoys going to a game down there at the moment?
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Post by canadianexile on Jan 25, 2018 14:54:27 GMT
Imagine turning your back on your own club though? Wow. Shame on them Who has turned their back on their club?
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Jan 25, 2018 14:55:39 GMT
Imagine turning your back on your own club though? Wow. Shame on them Who has turned their back on their club? The stay aways.
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Post by Al on Jan 25, 2018 15:00:32 GMT
Who has turned their back on their club? The stay aways. Could you not also say that the Club turned their back on the fans?
What with the continued price hikes etc over a short period of time? The move away from a more inclusive setup and moving into a cold sterile - just like every other club - feel?
Works both ways you know.
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Post by uptheseals on Jan 25, 2018 15:01:21 GMT
I go to as many homes as I can and for the last 18 months there's been very little chance of seeing a win. Home form has gone beyond woeful. I pay my entrance money as my little way of trying to safeguard the future of the club. Many just don't seem to have the enthusiasm to do this anymore. Personally, I think people should make the effort to attend as many home games as they can but let's face it you can't really blame people for not turning up. The football and attitude of the players and management stinks the place out. Match days down there are woeful. From the moment you get down there it's gloom. In the blues bar you could hear a pin drop. Pre match/ half time entertainment is pretty more zero. It's boring and has turned in to a painful expirience. Hands on hearts, other than the social aspect of spending time with family and friends who genuinely enjoys going to a game down there at the moment? Aye i agree, The whole expierence of going to games is shite dosen't feel like a fan owned club anymore wish we did stuff like we used to in the lower leagues having fan days etc, One thing that annoys me though with our fans and ive heard it a few times that people are "Staying away until things get better" But fail to realise them staying away is hurting the club big time financially
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Post by uptheseals on Jan 25, 2018 15:02:19 GMT
Could you not also say that the Club turned their back on the fans?
What with the continued price hikes etc over a short period of time? The move away from a more inclusive setup and moving into a cold sterile - just like every other club - feel?
Works both ways you know.
What Price hikes? Swear our prices have stayed the exact same since we've been back in the conference?
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Jan 25, 2018 15:04:18 GMT
Could you not also say that the Club turned their back on the fans?
What with the continued price hikes etc over a short period of time? The move away from a more inclusive setup and moving into a cold sterile - just like every other club - feel?
Works both ways you know.
Nah, let’s be honest. They’ve stopped going because we’re not doing well. People who stop because we’re struggling aren’t proper supporters.
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Post by billyw on Jan 25, 2018 15:24:45 GMT
Could you not also say that the Club turned their back on the fans?
What with the continued price hikes etc over a short period of time? The move away from a more inclusive setup and moving into a cold sterile - just like every other club - feel?
Works both ways you know.
What Price hikes? Swear our prices have stayed the exact same since we've been back in the conference? Agreed. It seems complaining about prices is a Chester thing. I never see moaning on other boards only here and yet our admission charges are, and always have been, in line with other clubs.
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Post by superman on Jan 25, 2018 15:30:50 GMT
We are in reality no different to any other club outside the Premiership, consistent lack of success,and in particular poor home form over 2 seasons at least, will result in ever diminishing attendances. We have struggled for 5 years on the pitch, no surprise then that after the novelty of reformation as a fan owned entity and lower league success has worn off we find ourselves with only the hard core left.
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Post by uptheseals on Jan 25, 2018 15:38:46 GMT
What Price hikes? Swear our prices have stayed the exact same since we've been back in the conference? Agreed. It seems complaining about prices is a Chester thing. I never see moaning on other boards only here and yet our admission charges are, and always have been, in line with other clubs. Our prices aren't even that bad £15 adults being the cheapest is better then most teams in our league even to sit down at £18 isn't too shabby compared to some places ive been to in the past Where it's been way over £20
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Post by norwegianblue on Jan 25, 2018 15:43:50 GMT
Could you not also say that the Club turned their back on the fans?
What with the continued price hikes etc over a short period of time? The move away from a more inclusive setup and moving into a cold sterile - just like every other club - feel?
Works both ways you know.
Nah, let’s be honest. They’ve stopped going because we’re not doing well. People who stop because we’re struggling aren’t proper supporters. How can you say that without knowing who they are? I know of at least three that age from 35 up to 75 who will not attend for a number of reasons. They include; (i) The football is crap with no signs of improvement or fight and a waste of money. (ii) They feel that the club has lost it's ethos and become a 'clique'. (iii) They have found other things to do on a Saturday. (iv) They have family commitments. As much as I nag from afar, they still choose not to attend. It is highly probable that I have attended more Chester FC games this season than two of them. We are all different and have been supporting football in Chester from 25 to over 60 years. You can't say that we are not supporters.
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Post by billyw on Jan 25, 2018 15:52:21 GMT
Nah, let’s be honest. They’ve stopped going because we’re not doing well. People who stop because we’re struggling aren’t proper supporters. How can you say that without knowing who they are? I know of at least three that age from 35 up to 75 who will not attend for a number of reasons. They include; (i) The football is crap with no signs of improvement or fight and a waste of money. (ii) They feel that the club has lost it's ethos and become a 'clique'. (iii) They have found other things to do on a Saturday. (iv) They have family commitments. As much as I nag from afar, they still choose not to attend. It is highly probable that I have attended more Chester FC games this season than two of them. We are all different and have been supporting football in Chester from 25 to over 60 years. You can't say that we are not supporters. Err well you can actually. By definition a supporter is one who attends games surely?
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Post by canadianexile on Jan 25, 2018 16:01:40 GMT
How can you say that without knowing who they are? I know of at least three that age from 35 up to 75 who will not attend for a number of reasons. They include; (i) The football is crap with no signs of improvement or fight and a waste of money. (ii) They feel that the club has lost it's ethos and become a 'clique'. (iii) They have found other things to do on a Saturday. (iv) They have family commitments. As much as I nag from afar, they still choose not to attend. It is highly probable that I have attended more Chester FC games this season than two of them. We are all different and have been supporting football in Chester from 25 to over 60 years. You can't say that we are not supporters. Err well you can actually. By definition a supporter is one who attends games surely? Yeah, you don't have to go every single week for the rest of your life to maintain your supporter status.
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Post by sqzl on Jan 25, 2018 16:02:58 GMT
How can you say that without knowing who they are? I know of at least three that age from 35 up to 75 who will not attend for a number of reasons. They include; (i) The football is crap with no signs of improvement or fight and a waste of money. (ii) They feel that the club has lost it's ethos and become a 'clique'. (iii) They have found other things to do on a Saturday. (iv) They have family commitments. As much as I nag from afar, they still choose not to attend. It is highly probable that I have attended more Chester FC games this season than two of them. We are all different and have been supporting football in Chester from 25 to over 60 years. You can't say that we are not supporters. Err well you can actually. By definition a supporter is one who attends games surely? Not how i'd define a supporter personally. NB lives a flight away, doesn't mean he isn't a supporter because he can't attend matches? The word 'support' can be taken in numerous ways, but ultimately financial support for the club is paramount to our model. I've seen NB posting on the forum for years, fairly sure he did have a ST despite not going to games, that's still support. I go to every away, bar maybe 2-3 a season due to other commitments, and Saturday home games and live hours away from Chester, doesn't make me more of a supporter than anyone else in my eyes.
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Post by billyw on Jan 25, 2018 16:09:24 GMT
Err well you can actually. By definition a supporter is one who attends games surely? Not how i'd define a supporter personally. NB lives a flight away, doesn't mean he isn't a supporter because he can't attend matches? The word 'support' can be taken in numerous ways, but ultimately financial support for the club is paramount to our model. I've seen NB posting on the forum for years, fairly sure he did have a ST despite not going to games, that's still support. I go to every away, bar maybe 2-3 a season due to other commitments, and Saturday home games and live hours away from Chester, doesn't make me more of a supporter than anyone else in my eyes. Sorry, I wasn't referring to NB, I know he doesn't live locally and I respect him for the support he does give the club. I was referring to others he mentioned who live on the doorstep and 'choose' not to attend matches. Anyone who travels any distance to attend games has my total respect.
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Jan 25, 2018 16:11:34 GMT
What Price hikes? Swear our prices have stayed the exact same since we've been back in the conference? Agreed. It seems complaining about prices is a Chester thing. I never see moaning on other boards only here and yet our admission charges are, and always have been, in line with other clubs. It’s just another excuse people use
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Post by chesterken on Jan 25, 2018 16:35:54 GMT
I was looking across the ground at halftime on Tuesday and I couldn’t help but notice how empty H Block was where have they all gone, when we played Wrexham it was full of people standing and swopping insults with the away fans { not watching the game I might add ). When we play Tranmere it will be the same again but after that I have no doubt it will thin out again, do they go to other parts of the ground or do they only come when we’re winning.?.
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 25, 2018 16:44:23 GMT
I was looking across the ground at halftime on Tuesday and I couldn’t help but notice how empty H Block was where have they all gone, when we played Wrexham it was full of people standing and swopping insults with the away fans { not watching the game I might add ). When we play Tranmere it will be the same again but after that I have no doubt it will thin out again, do they go to other parts of the ground or do they only come when we’re winning.?. I think you can say the same about every part of the ground this season. The Harry Mac looks particularly empty these days.
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Post by franksalot on Jan 25, 2018 16:51:52 GMT
Unfortunately that's football , do well and the crowds will come , push for promotion, have a cup run , the gates will grow. Struggle and the attendance will drop. It's not us it's football as a whole.
The difference is as we all know we are a small club who more than most are reliant on the size of our crowd. No one wants relegation but guaranteed if we went down and had a couple of positive seasons in the north , play offs then promotion, you would see gates increase because whatever level of football you watch apart from your hard core support a large section will come and go with success.
I do feel the overall match experience needs looking at to help. Winning a couple would help 😊
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Post by chesterken on Jan 25, 2018 16:55:39 GMT
I was looking across the ground at halftime on Tuesday and I couldn’t help but notice how empty H Block was where have they all gone, when we played Wrexham it was full of people standing and swopping insults with the away fans { not watching the game I might add ). When we play Tranmere it will be the same again but after that I have no doubt it will thin out again, do they go to other parts of the ground or do they only come when we’re winning.?. I think you can say the same about every part of the ground this season. The Harry Mac looks particularly empty these days. Hopefully tonight’s meeting will galvanise the fanbase and kickstart us on and off the field
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Post by bing on Jan 25, 2018 17:06:11 GMT
I think you can say the same about every part of the ground this season. The Harry Mac looks particularly empty these days. Hopefully tonight’s meeting will galvanise the fanbase and kickstart us on and off the field Absolutely. Don't mind admitting that I've got butterflies. Hope it goes well. Can't make it I'm afraid (new born baby), but hope that after the inevitable finger pointing, all those in attendance - clearly passionate about the club - spend most of the evening constructively plotting our way forward.
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