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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Feb 13, 2018 11:12:46 GMT
I think they’d get bullied in this league. Kids v Full Time Professional Footballers would be embarrassing. Sorry. To be fair it was half tongue in cheek but let me ask you, has it not been embarrassing so far with so called full time professionals? And haven't our BEST 2 players in recent weeks be Crawford and Jones? Yes you're right they may get bullied but I tell you what they will give you, they'll give you more in terms of effort & commitment than anything we've seen so far this season from the full time professionals and you know what if we are going to rely on younger players more next season their personal development will be accelerated massively in readiness. So maybe not quite as crazy as you may think I agree with you in much of what you say and appreciate your tongue in cheek comment apologies, although I am a bit worried that others are a bit more serious? James Jones has done particularly well but I’m not so sure about Tom, I think he needs a bit more nurturing, he doesn’t have the physical strength of James and is in a battle every week in midfield. I don’t think he could play 3 games in 8 days for example. Development could be harmed by asking too much too soon (Matty McKay?) and as a group of 4 or 5 youth players, especially with this manager who looks like he’s here for the duration, they’d quickly become disillusioned. If Callum were managing them with the pros I’d be a little happier. But please not this bloke throwing them to the wolves
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Feb 13, 2018 13:21:26 GMT
I think they’d get bullied in this league. Kids v Full Time Professional Footballers would be embarrassing. Sorry. I can see your point and tend to agree, but I was talking about the way Bignot handles his players and also the way he talks down the youngsters. He'd be the first one to do damage to their confidence. You’re obsessed with slating Bignot. Every thread. Can’t you just keep your boring, repetitive crap to a single thread?
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Post by Hannibal on Feb 13, 2018 13:49:04 GMT
Slating Bignot is not going to do anyone any good. I must admit I didn't really have a choice when Macca was sacked, I just wanted Macca out before he did anymore damage, but unfortunately the damage was already done. The worst thing that could have happened was him winning those last 3 games of 2015-16 season. We needed 3 points from those games and would probably have beaten Welling and stayed up, but we didn't know that. I thought Bignot deserved a chance, but he's failed spectacularly to improve on Macca. In fact his points per game is now no better or even worse that Macca's. The next managerial appointment is massive and thank God the people who will be selecting him will be more competent than the ones who picked Macca and Bignot. Bignot deserves dignity as I do not believe he realised what an absolute car crash he'd inherited.
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Post by steveo1 on Feb 13, 2018 13:54:41 GMT
It's a weird one. We should be fighting for our lives - a couple of wins and we are right back in the mix and the crowd would get behind the team. Yet the players and manager seem to have thrown in the towel. This is the thing, we have pretty much be within 6 points of safety for weeks now, probably months, which isn't a lot. But you would never think it with this lot, just seems a complete negative ebb amongst the camp. We either lose narrowly and embarrasingly like Saturday against a team that won 1 in 12 and they had 10 men for 35 minutes or we get absolutely battered 3s and 4s. Look at the other defeats we have suffered recently, gateshead at home who had barely won a game in months, then Hartlepool who looked dreadful and hadnt won in months barely we couldnt muster a win. No signs of any great escape on the pitch, even the fans feel we are down and its says a lot when we are only 4 points from the drop with 2 months of the season left. Its a shame but we have been dished up garbage for to long now, its effecting the diehards never mind getting new people through the door.
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Post by Blockhead on Feb 13, 2018 14:13:59 GMT
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Post by Jack on Feb 13, 2018 14:16:12 GMT
I agree. Two very winnable home fixtures coming up but you just know we'll take 1 point at best.
The players aren't very good, but that isn't actually a good enough excuse at this level. Loads of players aren't very good, but they put a shift in and stick to a system and get results. Our players really don't look like they give a toss.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Feb 13, 2018 16:54:10 GMT
Yes , but Archer offers a degree of physicality that the others strikers dont pocess. He is mainly a targetman.
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Post by everhopeful on Feb 13, 2018 17:38:07 GMT
I can see your point and tend to agree, but I was talking about the way Bignot handles his players and also the way he talks down the youngsters. He'd be the first one to do damage to their confidence. You’re obsessed with slating Bignot. Every thread. Can’t you just keep your boring, repetitive crap to a single thread? It is you who is obsessed. You have to resort to denigrating everybody who doesn't confirm to your own pedantic viewpoint and then compound that by using gutter language at every possible opportunity. You show yourself in a very poor light.
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Post by boughtonblue on Feb 13, 2018 17:39:49 GMT
I agree. Two very winnable home fixtures coming up but you just know we'll take 1 point at best. The players aren't very good, but that isn't actually a good enough excuse at this level. Loads of players aren't very good, but they put a shift in and stick to a system and get results. Our players really don't look like they give a toss. I've just come to the conclusion that most of our players know they are on the way out and confidence and motivation must be at a all time low. We haven't shown anything that suggests we have a bit of fight about us which is highly unusual. The rest of the season is going to be quite surreal as we the fans are battling to save the club and the players are planning for next season with other clubs. This squad bar one or two don't seem to have any connection with us the fans. I would say that astles, Hannah, possibly mahon and the youngsters are exempt from the above criticism.
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Post by bluejay on Feb 13, 2018 19:48:25 GMT
Slating Bignot is not going to do anyone any good. I must admit I didn't really have a choice when Macca was sacked, I just wanted Macca out before he did anymore damage, but unfortunately the damage was already done. The worst thing that could have happened was him winning those last 3 games of 2015-16 season. We needed 3 points from those games and would probably have beaten Welling and stayed up, but we didn't know that. I thought Bignot deserved a chance, but he's failed spectacularly to improve on Macca. In fact his points per game is now no better or even worse that Macca's. The next managerial appointment is massive and thank God the people who will be selecting him will be more competent than the ones who picked Macca and Bignot. Bignot deserves dignity as I do not believe he realised what an absolute car crash he'd inherited. So do we repeat what we did last season and give Bignot a new squad so he gets a fair crack at next season? If not, why hang on to him now?
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Feb 13, 2018 21:24:14 GMT
You’re obsessed with slating Bignot. Every thread. Can’t you just keep your boring, repetitive crap to a single thread? It is you who is obsessed. You have to resort to denigrating everybody who doesn't confirm to your own pedantic viewpoint and then compound that by using gutter language at every possible opportunity. You show yourself in a very poor light. Aww diddums. If you hate Bignot so much go and ring the club and tell him you coward.
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Post by dmcnally on Feb 13, 2018 23:57:34 GMT
Slating Bignot is not going to do anyone any good. I must admit I didn't really have a choice when Macca was sacked, I just wanted Macca out before he did anymore damage, but unfortunately the damage was already done. The worst thing that could have happened was him winning those last 3 games of 2015-16 season. We needed 3 points from those games and would probably have beaten Welling and stayed up, but we didn't know that. I thought Bignot deserved a chance, but he's failed spectacularly to improve on Macca. In fact his points per game is now no better or even worse that Macca's. The next managerial appointment is massive and thank God the people who will be selecting him will be more competent than the ones who picked Macca and Bignot. Bignot deserves dignity as I do not believe he realised what an absolute car crash he'd inherited.I've been wondering something like this.. if the board took so long to tell us about the financial issues, how open were they with Bignot in the first place ? Were the club reluctant to reveal the whole situation to all applicants incase no manager wanted to take on the job, as it was that bad (as we've now found out)?
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Post by everhopeful on Feb 14, 2018 6:02:53 GMT
It is you who is obsessed. You have to resort to denigrating everybody who doesn't confirm to your own pedantic viewpoint and then compound that by using gutter language at every possible opportunity. You show yourself in a very poor light. Aww diddums. If you hate Bignot so much go and ring the club and tell him you coward. What a sad individual you are. You're rapidly becoming the new whopper! That must make you proud!
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Feb 14, 2018 6:23:18 GMT
Aww diddums. If you hate Bignot so much go and ring the club and tell him you coward. What a sad individual you are. You're rapidly becoming the new whopper! That must make you proud! You’re obsessed with Marcus Bignot. That’s sad.
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Post by Hannibal on Feb 14, 2018 9:00:37 GMT
Slating Bignot is not going to do anyone any good. I must admit I didn't really have a choice when Macca was sacked, I just wanted Macca out before he did anymore damage, but unfortunately the damage was already done. The worst thing that could have happened was him winning those last 3 games of 2015-16 season. We needed 3 points from those games and would probably have beaten Welling and stayed up, but we didn't know that. I thought Bignot deserved a chance, but he's failed spectacularly to improve on Macca. In fact his points per game is now no better or even worse that Macca's. The next managerial appointment is massive and thank God the people who will be selecting him will be more competent than the ones who picked Macca and Bignot. Bignot deserves dignity as I do not believe he realised what an absolute car crash he'd inherited.I've been wondering something like this.. if the board took so long to tell us about the financial issues, how open were they with Bignot in the first place ? Were the club reluctant to reveal the whole situation to all applicants incase no manager wanted to take on the job, as it was that bad (as we've now found out)? Well ... every member of that board lacked any kind of integrity. I'm still angry that they spent most of the rainy day fund. That should not have been touched without membership approval. Who the fuck do they think they are? They thought they just had to rock up to a board meeting once a month. 6 of them are still there. Unbelievable!
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Post by gezzer on Feb 14, 2018 11:13:28 GMT
I've been wondering something like this.. if the board took so long to tell us about the financial issues, how open were they with Bignot in the first place ? Were the club reluctant to reveal the whole situation to all applicants incase no manager wanted to take on the job, as it was that bad (as we've now found out)? Well ... every member of that board lacked any kind of integrity. I'm still angry that they spent most of the rainy day fund. That should not have been touched without membership approval. Who the fuck do they think they are? They thought they just had to rock up to a board meeting once a month. 6 of them are still there. Unbelievable! They are the ones who were elected to the board (or not) by the CFU membership as LK quite rightly said "You got what you voted for"
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Post by Hannibal on Feb 14, 2018 11:16:13 GMT
Well ... every member of that board lacked any kind of integrity. I'm still angry that they spent most of the rainy day fund. That should not have been touched without membership approval. Who the fuck do they think they are? They thought they just had to rock up to a board meeting once a month. 6 of them are still there. Unbelievable! They are the ones who were elected to the board (or not) by the CFU membership as LK quite rightly said "You got what you voted for" I mean spending the money without permission.
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Post by rcb on Feb 14, 2018 11:33:11 GMT
If you gave equal votes to a teacher and their pupils you may find the teacher’s choice is not elected. Doesn’t mean the pupils pick the right person though. That’s the potential trouble with fan owned. The best options are seldom elected. I would be interested to find out the size of the poll that picked the board of two years ago. In my eyes as long as there is hope then the best team for this season must be picked, and that is what a manager is paid to do.
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Post by Derry Blue on Feb 14, 2018 13:05:27 GMT
I can see your point and tend to agree, but I was talking about the way Bignot handles his players and also the way he talks down the youngsters. He'd be the first one to do damage to their confidence. You’re obsessed with slating Bignot. Every thread. Can’t you just keep your boring, repetitive crap to a single thread? You're obsessed with slating ever hopeful 😀
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Feb 14, 2018 13:08:44 GMT
You’re obsessed with slating Bignot. Every thread. Can’t you just keep your boring, repetitive crap to a single thread? You're obsessed with slating ever hopeful 😀 I don’t post daily about him on different threads though.
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