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Post by chesterken on Mar 12, 2018 17:52:53 GMT
Manager sacked at Walsall and Ian Sharps is part of the caretaker duo put in temporary charge while they go through the recruitment process for a new Manager, well above our level possibly but worth debating perhaps
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Post by Johnnybling on Mar 12, 2018 17:56:57 GMT
Any day I’d take sharps
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Post by dmcnally on Mar 12, 2018 18:14:09 GMT
If he wants it, definitely give him an interview.
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Post by Johnnybling on Mar 12, 2018 18:19:51 GMT
If he wants it, definitely give him an interview. why interview him if he wants it give it him, must say I want Bignot to succeed however I’m not being convinced and really am unsure for next season...,clean broom required from top to bottom and as for the budget it’s a joke 200k that’s 10k per player per season less than minimum wage springs to mind, if we can sustain gates of 1700 than surly 300k is more realistic?
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Post by dmcnally on Mar 12, 2018 18:22:59 GMT
If he wants it, definitely give him an interview. why interview him if he wants it give it him, must say I want Bignot to succeed however I’m not being convinced and really am unsure for next season...,clean broom required from top to bottom and as for the budget it’s a joke 200k that’s 10k per player per season less than minimum wage springs to mind, if we can sustain gates of 1700 than surly 300k is more realistic? It would just be wrong to hand him the job without any interview. Totally wrong. As for the budget, it’s really going to depend on whether we can get rid of Hannah and James for me. Failure to get them out and the budget is going to raise some eyebrows and drop some jaws.
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Post by Matt on Mar 12, 2018 18:26:26 GMT
Get him in! He was the brains behind McCarthy's small time success. Barring the miracle at Aldershot.
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Post by Al on Mar 12, 2018 18:28:32 GMT
If he wants it, definitely give him an interview. why interview him if he wants it give it him, must say I want Bignot to succeed however I’m not being convinced and really am unsure for next season...,clean broom required from top to bottom and as for the budget it’s a joke 200k that’s 10k per player per season less than minimum wage springs to mind, if we can sustain gates of 1700 than surly 300k is more realistic? No. We have to budget accordingly. If we want to actually put money away and restore the rainy day fund and increase it, and grow our bank balance significantly enough to invest in the infrastructure then we can't keep throwing every spare penny into the football team budget and following a boom or bust approach. That's precisely why we're in the shit state we are this season. And no, I wouldn't appoint Ian Sharps. He doesn't fit our profile
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Post by happyclapper52 on Mar 12, 2018 18:31:14 GMT
And managerial experience is ?
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Post by rcb on Mar 12, 2018 18:33:07 GMT
So there we have it. The voice of reason from the obsessives. They are totally fearful of anyone other than the great Bignot getting the job, and will jump to arms to attack any such suggestion. Now I simply wait for the vitriolic bile from them and their fellow obsessives for daring to write this.
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Post by billyw on Mar 12, 2018 18:35:21 GMT
why interview him if he wants it give it him, must say I want Bignot to succeed however I’m not being convinced and really am unsure for next season...,clean broom required from top to bottom and as for the budget it’s a joke 200k that’s 10k per player per season less than minimum wage springs to mind, if we can sustain gates of 1700 than surly 300k is more realistic? No. We have to budget accordingly. If we want to actually put money away and restore the rainy day fund and increase it, and grow our bank balance significantly enough to invest in the infrastructure then we can't keep throwing every spare penny into the football team budget and following a boom or bust approach. That's precisely why we're in the shit state we are this season. And no, I wouldn't appoint Ian Sharps. He doesn't fit our profile What is our profile. MCCarthy and Bignot were both appointed because they were a fit for the club - that worked out well didn't it. Personally I don't want a manager with the 'right ethos' - I want a manager who can manage a football team, win matches and get the crowds back. All th community stuff etc. can follow and be done by someone else.
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Post by dmcnally on Mar 12, 2018 18:37:15 GMT
So there we have it. The voice of reason from the obsessives. They are totally fearful of anyone other than the great Bignot getting the job, and will jump to arms to attack any such suggestion. Now I simply wait for the vitriolic bile from them and their fellow obsessives for daring to write this. Hope you don’t include me in that statement as I commented in favour of Sharps, rcb.
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Post by Al on Mar 12, 2018 18:39:47 GMT
No. We have to budget accordingly. If we want to actually put money away and restore the rainy day fund and increase it, and grow our bank balance significantly enough to invest in the infrastructure then we can't keep throwing every spare penny into the football team budget and following a boom or bust approach. That's precisely why we're in the shit state we are this season. And no, I wouldn't appoint Ian Sharps. He doesn't fit our profile What is our profile. MCCarthy and Bignot were both appointed because they were a fit for the club - that worked out well didn't it. Personally I don't want a manager with the 'right ethos' - I want a manager who can manage a football team, win matches and get the crowds back. All th community stuff etc. can follow and be done by someone else. I didn't mention getting involved in the community side now did i. You know what our profile is for next season. Someone who knows the area and the regional leagues well, someone who can build a side of locally based talent and can work on a restrictive budget. Ian Sharps neither has the experience or knowledge/contacts in this area yet. Therefore he doesn't fit the profile
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Post by chesterken on Mar 12, 2018 18:44:11 GMT
Oh dear I only started the thread for people to debate not to start World war 3
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Post by dmcnally on Mar 12, 2018 18:46:30 GMT
Oh dear I only started the thread for people to debate not to start World war 3 Devachat summed up in one sentence.
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Post by rcb on Mar 12, 2018 18:48:34 GMT
So there we have it. The voice of reason from the obsessives. They are totally fearful of anyone other than the great Bignot getting the job, and will jump to arms to attack any such suggestion. Now I simply wait for the vitriolic bile from them and their fellow obsessives for daring to write this. Hope you don’t include me in that statement as I commented in favour of Sharps, rcb. You quoted above “It would just be wrong to hand him the job without any interview. Totally wrong.” Hopefully you are just against the concept of giving the job to anyone, without an open selection process. Would you be equally opposed to just giving the job to the current manager at the end of his contract? i know you favour towards Bignot, as you know my dislike of him, so it is good that we can share opinions on here. We both wish the best for the club, but don’t share beliefs in how to get there.
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Post by btb on Mar 12, 2018 19:01:41 GMT
After his marshalling of our defence during that superb period he would surely warrant an interview if he were to apply?
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Post by dmcnally on Mar 12, 2018 19:09:56 GMT
Hope you don’t include me in that statement as I commented in favour of Sharps, rcb. You quoted above “It would just be wrong to hand him the job without any interview. Totally wrong.” Hopefully you are just against the concept of giving the job to anyone, without an open selection process. Would you be equally opposed to just giving the job to the current manager at the end of his contract? i know you favour towards Bignot, as you know my dislike of him, so it is good that we can share opinions on here. We both wish the best for the club, but don’t share beliefs in how to get there. The comment was made in no reference to Bignot and instead how I believe we should operate as a club. Tony Allen was given a job through the back door and this would be no different. As for Bignot, he’s already in the building so he’d have never left the back door if he was to be offered new terms. I think we should definitely have an interview process but there are clearly issues surrounding our past processes of this. Bignot would then be the best candidate but it wouldn’t make sense telling fans they’re inviting applicants, most fans being happy with that, and then saying Bignot is staying.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 19:12:32 GMT
Two quick points
1. There's no vacancy at the moment
2. We've seriously gone backwards since he was last here. Why would he jeopardise a potentially burgeoning career by taking on this club until there's some degree of stability and an upward direction?
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Post by billyw on Mar 12, 2018 19:14:59 GMT
Two quick points 1. There's no vacancy at the moment 2. We've seriously gone backwards since he was last here. Why would he jeopardise a potentially burgeoning career by taking on this club until there's some degree of stability and an upward direction? 3. We couldn't afford him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 19:20:31 GMT
Two quick points 1. There's no vacancy at the moment 2. We've seriously gone backwards since he was last here. Why would he jeopardise a potentially burgeoning career by taking on this club until there's some degree of stability and an upward direction? 3. We couldn't afford him. Don't worry, I'm sure somebody would organise a quick whip-round but, seriously, we're not in his league anymore.
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Post by superman on Mar 12, 2018 19:38:05 GMT
Not currently available and currently out of our price range, but if he gets the push in any new managerial set up at Walsall then he may welcome an opportunity to try his hand at management as opposed to just coaching, if that is where he sees his future. Maybe he just wants to be a top coach rather than managerial responsibility. Would be an interesting if inexperienced option who would have a fair degree of fan support initially, well for one game at least.
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Post by dmcnally on Mar 12, 2018 20:05:28 GMT
3. We couldn't afford him. Don't worry, I'm sure somebody would organise a quick whip-round but, seriously, we're not in his league anymore. Are we not? One spell in management after Chester, which was his first, as a first team coach and their fans want him to go with Whitley.
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Post by Jack on Mar 12, 2018 20:37:14 GMT
Wouldn't have thought he'd have much of a knowledge of the local scene, and probably has his eyes on following Whitney wherever he goes.
Don't think he'd be the man for us.
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Post by superman on Mar 12, 2018 20:50:12 GMT
More likely to follow best mate Neil Cutler, ex Chester City goalkeeper, now at WBA although things may be a bit turbulent there to say the least at the moment.
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Post by eltonblues on Mar 12, 2018 21:12:42 GMT
A few Walsall fans on Twitter are calling for Dean Keats to replace the manager
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Post by chesterken on Mar 12, 2018 21:19:53 GMT
Wouldn't have thought he'd have much of a knowledge of the local scene, and probably has his eyes on following Whitney wherever he goes. Don't think he'd be the man for us. He could use a Sat Nav😗
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Mar 12, 2018 21:32:44 GMT
We could do a lot worse than give sharps a chance I wouldn’t be disappointed to see him given a chance. We are now in the 16 st plus girls club at 2 am In the conference north though 😊
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Post by Matt on Mar 12, 2018 21:35:15 GMT
A few Walsall fans on Twitter are calling for Dean Keats to replace the manager He’s already 2nd favourite.. it is his home town Club. Don’t think he’d turn that down if offered. Either way it looks like Sharps will be gone as soon as the new guy is in charge
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Post by bethnalblue on Mar 12, 2018 21:37:17 GMT
If he wants it, definitely give him an interview. why interview him if he wants it give it him, must say I want Bignot to succeed however I’m not being convinced and really am unsure for next season...,clean broom required from top to bottom and as for the budget it’s a joke 200k that’s 10k per player per season less than minimum wage springs to mind, if we can sustain gates of 1700 than surly 300k is more realistic? Minimum wage is irrelevant if we are part time, Which we should be with our budget.
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Post by eltonblues on Mar 12, 2018 21:48:12 GMT
If he wants it, definitely give him an interview. why interview him if he wants it give it him, must say I want Bignot to succeed however I’m not being convinced and really am unsure for next season...,clean broom required from top to bottom and as for the budget it’s a joke 200k that’s 10k per player per season less than minimum wage springs to mind, if we can sustain gates of 1700 than surly 300k is more realistic? 1700 is optimistic in my opinion. I would suggest 1300 is more realistic.
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