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Post by bluboy79 on Mar 13, 2018 21:32:41 GMT
Things can change very quickly in football, we are currently in a very bad place falling gates, money troubles and a shocking squad losing every week it seems like the end of the world. However we appear to have stabilised the money side a bit and are seeing some of our youth lads breaking through, we just need to see this season out to its likely conclusion which is relegation. Over the summer a new manager is needed who can inject some fresh enthusiasm into the club and who can source local players on a budget, he will need to try and play attacking football and entertain something sorely missing for a long time at our club. Out of this seasons squad only Astles, Jones, Crawford, Archer and maybe Roberts should be retained, we should try and aim for a squad of about 15 senior players plus the youth lads and one or two loanees. Maybe appoint a goalkeeping assistant manager to save some funds and have as small as possible backroom staff. We should try and arrange a couple of attractive friendlys not u21 sides, dropping seating price to maybe £16 and standing to £14 to try and tempt fans back. Their is no reason why we cant have a decent season and rebuild the club, I would budget for crowds of about 1300 and see how we go. There are some decent fixtures to look forward to and we have more of a chance of being competitive, things are coming together off the field and its amazing how the right manager can turn a clubs fortunes round, just hope we find him !
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Post by rcb on Mar 13, 2018 21:43:02 GMT
Worst defence I’ve ever seen these past two seasons, with Astles at the centre both times. Sorry, but I don’t get the love in. Without doubt he is overweight, lacks speed, and is often out of position. I feel he deceives people because he may well be the best out of a bad bunch. At his age he will be desperate to move away, hoping to stay at least at this level.
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Post by MPW on Mar 13, 2018 21:46:10 GMT
This summer will be our biggest since reformation. Lots of important decisions to be made and none that we can afford to get wrong again.
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Post by Blockhead on Mar 14, 2018 0:22:05 GMT
Worst defence I’ve ever seen these past two seasons, with Astles at the centre both times. Sorry, but I don’t get the love in. Without doubt he is overweight, lacks speed, and is often out of position. I feel he deceives people because he may well be the best out of a bad bunch. At his age he will be desperate to move away, hoping to stay at least at this level. Disagree. If he leaves at the end of the season, I find it hard to see him droping below Conference level. If the lad's so unfit, please explain why hasn't been booked all season? Surely small, quick players nipping past him would have been tripped? No, he's a step ahead, and even when caught out knows his limitations and gets back in position. Not sure I've seen a centre back so immense in the air play for Chester.
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Post by Matt on Mar 14, 2018 7:10:12 GMT
Worst defence I’ve ever seen these past two seasons, with Astles at the centre both times. Sorry, but I don’t get the love in. Without doubt he is overweight, lacks speed, and is often out of position. I feel he deceives people because he may well be the best out of a bad bunch. At his age he will be desperate to move away, hoping to stay at least at this level. I also don’t get the love for him. Clearly put weight on over the summer, we didn’t have fatty’s in the glue leagues. We need a squad from scratch. Other than the youth players I’d keep Archer and maybe Mahon.
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Post by rcb on Mar 14, 2018 8:00:53 GMT
Worst defence I’ve ever seen these past two seasons, with Astles at the centre both times. Sorry, but I don’t get the love in. Without doubt he is overweight, lacks speed, and is often out of position. I feel he deceives people because he may well be the best out of a bad bunch. At his age he will be desperate to move away, hoping to stay at least at this level. Disagree. If he leaves at the end of the season, I find it hard to see him droping below Conference level. If the lad's so unfit, please explain why hasn't been booked all season? Surely small, quick players nipping past him would have been tripped? No, he's a step ahead, and even when caught out knows his limitations and gets back in position. Not sure I've seen a centre back so immense in the air play for Chester. You agree that he will want remain at least conference level, therefore, like me, you believe he will leave. If, as I suggested, he is often out of position then those little players will be elsewhere, and scoring. Our goals against reflects this, as does the lack of clean sheets. Shows hoy far the club has fallen if you think he is immense when compared to George Horan. Enjoy your opinion, but I’ll stick with mine.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2018 10:45:08 GMT
Need to sort the season ticket prices out and give them a good push! Also get that new home kit on sale and make a bit from them also. We need to be positive in this tricky time. Give me Chester FC over Liverpool or United any day! Nothing better than supporting your local team!
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Post by Arthur's Carpet slipper on Mar 14, 2018 11:38:54 GMT
Hope Mark handed over his extensive list of customers so we can re-target the people who have bought tickets or provided contact details when buying items from the shop.
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Post by Hannibal on Mar 14, 2018 11:50:27 GMT
Need to sort the season ticket prices out and give them a good push! Also get that new home kit on sale and make a bit from them also. We need to be positive in this tricky time. Give me Chester FC over Liverpool or United any day! Nothing better than supporting your local team! Why don't you support Connah's Quay then.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2018 11:56:45 GMT
Need to sort the season ticket prices out and give them a good push! Also get that new home kit on sale and make a bit from them also. We need to be positive in this tricky time. Give me Chester FC over Liverpool or United any day! Nothing better than supporting your local team! Why don't you support Connah's Quay then. Because I was born in Chester and lived there for 24 years. Is that ok? Have I passed the local test?
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Post by jb on Mar 14, 2018 13:00:29 GMT
Hope Mark handed over his extensive list of customers so we can re-target the people who have bought tickets or provided contact details when buying items from the shop. Maguire would struggle to write a shopping list.
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Post by oldsealandroadender on Mar 14, 2018 17:36:20 GMT
There has been talk of staying full time next season but I think the budget will dictate wether it's part time, full time or hybrid. Arguably our best players since reformation were part time on the way up the leagues. Since going full time the quality of most of the players hasn't been as good and definitely nowhere as good as those playing for bigger wages for the clubs throwing money at it. (Whatever happened to the ruling that expenditure was linked to attendances. The annual losses experienced by FGR were obscene). We will probably have to expect to be in National North, and I know there is money swilling around that league and full time clubs. But if we can recruit a core of the best part timers while trying to keep the best we've got (short list I know, Roberts, Astles and the youngsters) with a sensible budget and make sure we don't slip straight through.
I think most people would be reasonably happy to see a team being able to compete, put in decent performances, score a few goals and not sink below halfway in the table. It may take a while to climb back up but we want to be able to do it on a sound footing. Constant struggle has to be put firmly behind us. If we are all pulling in the right direction then our football club has a future.
I'm ready to renew my season ticket now!
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Post by agl on Mar 14, 2018 18:15:31 GMT
I think the key thing is not to set over ambitious break even attendances. Budget for 1,000 and set the wage bill accordingly. We've seen in the last couple of months that there are plenty of decent players out there, so no need to bust the budget on dross as we did pre this season. Looks like we might still be carrying the likes of Mahon, Hannah and James so it's a case of survival. Don't envy the board. As for coming back stronger, I can't see that happening under the fans owned format - a wage bill of £500k is probably mid to lower table in National league now. Anyone know what the playing budget was when we won Conference North?
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Post by billyw on Mar 14, 2018 18:40:12 GMT
Reverting to part-time is the only way forward IMO. For financial reasons, we can make a sound business case for having to go P/T and by doing so we can then legitimately offer reduced terms to those players on two year contracts. If they reject the new terms, they can take us to a tribunal but are unlikely to win their cases in view of our financial predicament.
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Post by agl on Mar 14, 2018 21:31:02 GMT
Maybe I'm reading too much into this but the Chron piece about Gary Roberts appears to suggest that MB thinks he will be our manager next season. Couple of quotes about retaining players. "I would love a Gary Roberts here next season" Wonder if he's already been sounded out about a new deal?
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Post by Hannibal on Mar 14, 2018 21:47:22 GMT
Maybe I'm reading too much into this but the Chron piece about Gary Roberts appears to suggest that MB thinks he will be our manager next season. Couple of quotes about retaining players. "I would love a Gary Roberts here next season" Wonder if he's already been sounded out about a new deal? He also spoke recently about getting Astles into (better) shape for next season. I think it's just wishful thinking. I doubt he'll be here next season.
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Post by banksy on Mar 14, 2018 22:08:15 GMT
Need to sort the season ticket prices out and give them a good push! Also get that new home kit on sale and make a bit from them also. We need to be positive in this tricky time. Give me Chester FC over Liverpool or United any day! Nothing better than supporting your local team! That's exactly what the fan engagement and community working group have been looking at for the past two weeks, with the intention of coming up with an affordable but also realistic pricing for both season tickets and matchday admission too. It's a complex subject and our working group consists of 10 fans and within that group opinion differs so you can imagine how difficult it is to get to a happy medium with this. That said, a proposal has been put to the full board and that's being discussed at present. You have to come up with a price that is both affordable but also gives us the chance to be competitive next season. One of the main aims of the proposal is to create a great package for our youngsters too. We need more of them, and more to wear the new home tops next season. We obviously cannot go out with prices until agreement is made but also once our fate is completely known this season then the club will release details. There will be an urgent need for fans to renew their season tickets and also for new joins so expect to see a big campaign behind this. The club is owned by its members. We need more of you, and we also need everyone to get right behind us in the summer. If you've never had a season ticket before then let this be the summer that you get one! Thanks to the working group who have put in many hours to come up with the proposal. Thanks Jeff
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Post by johny9 on Mar 15, 2018 12:53:39 GMT
We need a couple of glamorous friendlies to get the fans in for extra £££ Utd, Liverpool , Everton city etc get the home kit on sale early and plenty of it ! I personally would remain full time and set the budget accordingly as most teams in the conf north are now and we need to show ambition . I’m in the keep bignot camp at least til Christmas to give him a chance of getting his own team together , the players he’s signed ( not short term loans ) have all been improvements and I have a feeling he is the right man for us to re-build .
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Post by Charlie Runkle on Mar 15, 2018 13:02:11 GMT
Amazing people trying to compare Chester with the likes of Liverpool, Utd or Everton.
Give me a packed stadium, with decent players (maybe not so much Everton) on display any day of the week over Chester.
The club is dead, again. Time to go down and start again next year.
Can pin point the exact moment this happened too - when the club initially got promoted to the National League and released all the players.
Been absolute dross ever since. Those who say otherwise are kidding themselves.
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Post by agl on Mar 15, 2018 13:23:19 GMT
Released which players exactly? Sarcevic was the big loss but there was no way he was ever staying. Recruitment wasn't brilliant for that first season in National - got the feeling Youngy under-estimated the step up.
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Post by Hannibal on Mar 15, 2018 14:37:39 GMT
Amazing people trying to compare Chester with the likes of Liverpool, Utd or Everton. Give me a packed stadium, with decent players (maybe not so much Everton) on display any day of the week over Chester. The club is dead, again. Time to go down and start again next year. Can pin point the exact moment this happened too - when the club initially got promoted to the National League and released all the players. Been absolute dross ever since. Those who say otherwise are kidding themselves. Those players were p/t and wanted to remain so.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Mar 15, 2018 14:53:16 GMT
Amazing people trying to compare Chester with the likes of Liverpool, Utd or Everton. Give me a packed stadium, with decent players (maybe not so much Everton) on display any day of the week over Chester. The club is dead, again. Time to go down and start again next year. Can pin point the exact moment this happened too - when the club initially got promoted to the National League and released all the players. Been absolute dross ever since. Those who say otherwise are kidding themselves. Gresty's romulation world.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Mar 16, 2018 19:22:00 GMT
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Mar 16, 2018 19:32:53 GMT
Things can change very quickly in football, we are currently in a very bad place falling gates, money troubles and a shocking squad losing every week it seems like the end of the world. However we appear to have stabilised the money side a bit and are seeing some of our youth lads breaking through, we just need to see this season out to its likely conclusion which is relegation. Over the summer a new manager is needed who can inject some fresh enthusiasm into the club and who can source local players on a budget, he will need to try and play attacking football and entertain something sorely missing for a long time at our club. Out of this seasons squad only Astles, Jones, Crawford, Archer and maybe Roberts should be retained, we should try and aim for a squad of about 15 senior players plus the youth lads and one or two loanees. Maybe appoint a goalkeeping assistant manager to save some funds and have as small as possible backroom staff. We should try and arrange a couple of attractive friendlys not u21 sides, dropping seating price to maybe £16 and standing to £14 to try and tempt fans back. Their is no reason why we cant have a decent season and rebuild the club, I would budget for crowds of about 1300 and see how we go. There are some decent fixtures to look forward to and we have more of a chance of being competitive, things are coming together off the field and its amazing how the right manager can turn a clubs fortunes round, just hope we find him ! Sorry but £14 and £16 is far too much for regional football
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Post by Derry Blue on Mar 16, 2018 19:41:06 GMT
Need to sort the season ticket prices out and give them a good push! Also get that new home kit on sale and make a bit from them also. We need to be positive in this tricky time. Give me Chester FC over Liverpool or United any day! Nothing better than supporting your local team! Why don't you support Connah's Quay then. Naughty Hannibal. Play nicely.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2018 22:42:01 GMT
Get this season over with even if we limp over which likely is the case at the moment
regroup then go again and see what the Summer brings weather it's Marcus or someone else in charge we need to support who the board bring in then back that manager with his signings we may not attract many big names but a lot would probably jump to a move to play for us
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