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Post by Alan on Mar 1, 2017 23:21:06 GMT
Good evening, I apologise now for the long post. Over the past few days I have been reading a number of topics, particularly the comments on those surrounding Friday's game v Tranmere, but have yet to reply; mainly because I have been spending some time with my young family (son's 5th birthday) and work has also taken a lot of time up over the last few days also. But this evening, as Chair of City Fans United, and thus the lead representative of the owners of Chester Football Club, I would look like to address a few things and hopefully alleviate some concerns. I know the biggest point of conjecture has been around the publicising of the Tranmere game and how more could be done to engage. Of course I will agree, more can always be done, there is never enough that can be done around how advertise and publicise ourselves, but whether the club produces just one Tweet a day or 100, we can ALL play part. Whether people make the decision to part with £12 per year or not, we all have the interests of this football club at our heart and would like to think that everybody has been sharing it via their various social media channels; I certainly have. I know that a "like and share" competition for the Legends Lounge has been suggested, which I'm not going to lie, I think is actually a really good idea, however the simple fact is, the Legend's Lounge is sold out completely, there is not a single space available. Now, whether your opinion of the Legend's Lounge is good or bad, nobody can deny that this is not a good thing. Many people have spent a lot of money to enjoy this experience, and that is testament to our volunteers who provide the service they do, to our partners at Doherty and Allen who make sure the experience is as memorable as possible for not only our partners like MBNA, but also visiting Directors and also to the work of our CEO, Mark Maguire, who continues to engage and attract new sponsors and grow relationships with businesses in the surrounding area. Now, could we offer something else? Possibly, and the ideas that have been suggested by many supporters are fantastic, but I would implore those individuals to send their ideas to fans@chesterfc.com. They are guaranteed an answer within 24 hours and if they continue to not be happy with the response, they can push further, heck, email me and I will chase up a reply. That is why the contact address was set up, to allow direct contact with the football club. Please do not think I am looking for excuses, that's the last thing I am doing, but please understand that there is a process. There will pluses, there will sometimes be things that seem uncouth, but it's not done out of a lack of trying. Just by simply sharing or telling a friend about games makes us all volunteers in some way. It's also worth noting, the media team are not controlled by the board. Yes, there has to be a large level of professionalism, but we do not sign off anything. Discussions are had, but there is no censorship. Also, despite it implying he was, Jonny Hughes as Marketing Director, is not a paid employee of the football club. Like me, he is a volunteer who gives up his free time round a full-time job to try and improve things in how we engage and interact. Jonny should be applauded for the marketing drive that saw a record number of shirts sold during the summer and he is also working tirelessly on improving the social media of ChesterFC TV in time for next season. Now, the most shocking claim I have read is that this football club "is dead". If anybody truly believes that, then we should all just walk away now. Close the gates, and just wander off into a stress free life away from owning a football club. In the last 12 months, the Community Trust has grown and grown and now more children than ever are being engaged. The Junior Blues now has over 200 young members who are enjoying more interactivity than ever; mascot competition, Junior Blues Takeover, Breakfast with the players, Christmas party, design a sign competition etc etc, we are in mid-table of an incredibly competitive league; scored four more goals than Tranmere for example, half of our squad is under 24, we have a youth academy that is continuing to produce talent with more coming through, we have a first team manager who cares passionately about our football club and we have an army of volunteers who give up their free time for the better good of Chester FC. If that's a dying club, then I would love to know what the top spot would look like. There will be mistakes, but where in life can any of us, hand on heart, say we haven't made a mistake. What is key is to ensure that any mistakes made are learned upon. There are a lot of things going on currently that we hope to share in the coming months. There are former Directors on this very board that post who know the rigours of trying to do the right thing, and I would like think those individuals would show some support given their personal knowledge of what it takes. Things will take time. I have been Chair of City Fans United for just over two months, I thought change things overnight, but the realities are different. We have been honest about the situation this year and we could make a loss, but then we may sell a player. But then, why are there those who take umbrage with that way of raising money? We should be proud that clubs up and down the country are watching players that WE produced. Wasn't that what we set out to do, otherwise what's the point of an academy? The Twitter Q&A was my idea as a way to open ourselves up. I would also like to do an open forum at some point too. I want everybody to join the CFU. No politics. No bitterness. We are ALL Chester supporters. We, the board, are already looking at how we can improve and simplify the fundraising process. We have already had three hour meeting regarding this, and we continue to communicate via email. In the summer we will be launching a brand new website, which was oddly ridiculed by some. This will provide FREE commentary, we will provide FREE clips of highlights. There will be greater interaction via our new media channels with supporters and we are looking at doing some things unique to any club at this level. Key elements that have been debated and suggested for the last few years will be implemented. The CRM database is now growing as we speak thanks to the new online ability to buy tickets. My hope was that by my posting on Deva Chat, a platform which I have defended, and allowing supporters with direct contact to me and also the club via fans@ would eliviate any doubt about the club being a "closed book", like it has in the past. I am no more important than any individual who invests their time and money into the football club, all I have done is put myself forward to see that our aspirations are met. If I didn't feel I could, I wouldn't have taken up the role, whilst at the same time, if I feel I can't, I would move aside. Social media and forums like Deva Chat are the future, but equally, a) not all board members or paid employees read Deva Chat and 2) Quite often ideas and suggestions can get lost in a miread of comments and conjecture. My plea to everybody, CFU member or otherwise, is please, please stick together. We have no benefactor; why would we want one? We are in control of our own destiny. I encourage as many people as possible to join the CFU. It's £12 per year, but you can attend monthly meetings to quiz the board; where else can a supporter do this? You can watch live streaming of said meetings; only club in Britain to provide this service, and ask any question that will be answered as openly and honestly as possible. Is the idea of plowing ourselves into the football league more important than providing a sustainable football club that owes no money and pays its wage and bills on time. Should the dream of league football be prioritised over developing our community presence and developing young players? I write this after a 10 hour day in work. Not because I want plaudits, but because I believe in this model and I believe in our football club. Boards will come and go. That's fact. But let's make sure we have a football club for generations of more Cestrians to support. I also want to leave you with an image. An image of a dream. A dream by an individual owner who had the right intentions. An owner that invested millions to see their team make the football league. The dream didn't last. I bet that every supporter of Rushden and Diamonds would happily take OUR position rather than where they are today. Many thanks, Alan P.S. If there is anything I have missed out, I apologise but can be contacted at the email address in my signature, alternatively, please utilise fans@chesterfc.com.
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Post by Si on Mar 1, 2017 23:31:04 GMT
Great post Alan. It's great that some people at the club like yourself do get involved in Devachat and give us a perspective from that side of things. You've been very open and honest and hopefully some good will come out of some of the recent subjects that have been discussed on DC that you referenced in your post.
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Mar 1, 2017 23:37:15 GMT
Post by dmcnally on Mar 1, 2017 23:37:15 GMT
Superb. Brilliant post Alan.
Just imagine the potential of this club if everyone pulls together, signs up to the CFU, brings a mate along to the game. It's small things like this which will make a HUGE difference to the club if we ALL make an effort.
OUR CITY. OUR COMMUNITY. OUR CLUB. CHESTER TILL I DIE.
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Mar 2, 2017 7:21:49 GMT
Post by LoyalBlue on Mar 2, 2017 7:21:49 GMT
Keep up the good work Alan....your very much appreciated. CHESTER TILL I DIE.
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Mar 2, 2017 7:23:06 GMT
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Post by Al on Mar 2, 2017 7:23:06 GMT
If the LL is booked up then offer an alternative?
I would post it as this:
******Competition Time********
Like our Page and Share this post to be in with the chance for you and a lucky friend to come to our game v xxxxx to spend the afternoon as our VIP Guests.
On the day you will: - Allocated parking - Greeted at the Entrance by our dedicated staff - Given a full stadium tour - Pre Match Tea/Coffee and Cake in the Boardroom where you can meet the Chairman - Allocated seating in the main stand (comfy seats preferably) for 2. - Photos pitch side
Etc, etc, etc.
Once they're in give them the works, team sheets, programmes (throw in a couple of CFU membership forms folded inside the programmes.
If we there are barriers of challenges to us doing something different markets wise then look for an alternative solution.
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Mar 2, 2017 7:26:48 GMT
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Post by Al on Mar 2, 2017 7:26:48 GMT
If the LL is booked up then offer an alternative? I would post it as this: ******Competition Time******** Like our Page and Share this post to be in with the chance for you and a lucky friend to come to our game v xxxxx to spend the afternoon as our VIP Guests. On the day you will: - Allocated parking - Greeted at the Entrance by our dedicated staff - Given a full stadium tour - Pre Match Tea/Coffee and Cake in the Boardroom where you can meet the Chairman - Allocated seating in the main stand (comfy seats preferably) for 2. - Photos pitch side Etc, etc, etc. Once they're in give them the works, team sheets, programmes (throw in a couple of CFU membership forms folded inside the programmes. If we there are barriers of challenges to us doing something different markets wise then look for an alternative solution. Forgot to add that within that post you have a pic advertising the next home game, date, kick off time, location, price for admission etc etc.
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Mar 2, 2017 7:31:57 GMT
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Post by dtonthewing on Mar 2, 2017 7:31:57 GMT
A fantastic and passionate reminder of what is great about our club. In a time of instant success or bust, our priorities have to be different. Worse thing is apathy amongst our fans.
Really looking forward to a new media offering next season, removing that pay wall will be an opportunity for us all.
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Mar 2, 2017 7:46:07 GMT
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Post by Alan on Mar 2, 2017 7:46:07 GMT
If the LL is booked up then offer an alternative? I would post it as this: ******Competition Time******** Like our Page and Share this post to be in with the chance for you and a lucky friend to come to our game v xxxxx to spend the afternoon as our VIP Guests. On the day you will: - Allocated parking - Greeted at the Entrance by our dedicated staff - Given a full stadium tour - Pre Match Tea/Coffee and Cake in the Boardroom where you can meet the Chairman - Allocated seating in the main stand (comfy seats preferably) for 2. - Photos pitch side Etc, etc, etc. Once they're in give them the works, team sheets, programmes (throw in a couple of CFU membership forms folded inside the programmes. If we there are barriers of challenges to us doing something different markets wise then look for an alternative solution. Hi Al, As I mentioned, I think the "like and share" idea is a good one, but I really do hope you have sent these ideas to the fans@ email address. As mentioned, you are guaranteed a reply and whether that reply satisfies you are not, you can at least be in a position to provide feedback from it. If you have already done the above, then I apologise, but ideas like this are well worth sharing with those who can see if they can be implemented. Many thanks, Alan
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Mar 2, 2017 7:49:46 GMT
Post by Hannibal on Mar 2, 2017 7:49:46 GMT
The Legend's Lounge is booked up fair enough, but it's booked up with people having meals, not LL members. All the money for meals goes to Dougherty and Allen surely?
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Mar 2, 2017 8:13:51 GMT
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Post by Krankie's Ghost on Mar 2, 2017 8:13:51 GMT
Despite assurances that there was "loads in the pipeline" for the Tranmere game when asked 3 weeks ago we've done nothing. Just words.
But the chairman posts if here so all is sound.
It was one of those former directors who said the club is dying pal. That's because the apathy from the club on these big occasions is breeding apathy from supporters. ' No-one is dissing these long term projects you mention, but it's not bringing people in, we're making a loss and you cannot defend the inaction for this game with that.
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Mar 2, 2017 8:34:32 GMT
Post by Alan on Mar 2, 2017 8:34:32 GMT
Despite assurances that there was "loads in the pipeline" for the Tranmere game when asked 3 weeks ago we've done nothing. Just words. But the chairman posts if here so all is sound. It was one of those former directors who said the club is dying pal. That's because the apathy from the club on these big occasions is breeding apathy from supporters. ' No-one is dissing these long term projects you mention, but it's not bringing people in, we're making a loss and you cannot defend the inaction for this game with that. I'm not. I don't believe "all is sound" either, if I felt it was, I wouldn't be spending my night writing War and Peace on Deva Chat. What I believe is, is that we do have something good and exciting, but something that can be improved upon. Nothing is perfect, and I actively invite people to email me or utilise the fans@ address for a more direct and efficient answer, if it's required, but whether a former Director used the words "dying club" or not, I think this is where we are miles apart. It's interesting going through historical posts on the old Deva Chat actually. Communication, or lack of, was previously the number 1 issue. Now, I believe we are on our way to getting this right, however there will always be another element that needs attention, that's the nature of the beast. We have opened avenues for more or more opportunities to co-opt on to the board, while asking for more volunteers to provide more support. The areas we could do with support in are those that require some leg work, but if we start producing matchday flyers etc, would there be anybody, including yourself, to help distribute those. The football club is not a closed shop and it doesn't belong to any single individual. People just need to get into that mindset. If there are interested parties, my details are below. Thanks, Alan.
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Post by sqzl on Mar 2, 2017 8:54:05 GMT
Despite assurances that there was "loads in the pipeline" for the Tranmere game when asked 3 weeks ago we've done nothing. Just words. But the chairman posts if here so all is sound. It was one of those former directors who said the club is dying pal. That's because the apathy from the club on these big occasions is breeding apathy from supporters. ' No-one is dissing these long term projects you mention, but it's not bringing people in, we're making a loss and you cannot defend the inaction for this game with that. I'm not. I don't believe "all is sound" either, if I felt it was, I wouldn't be spending my night writing War and Peace on Deva Chat. What I believe is, is that we do have something good and exciting, but something that can be improved upon. Nothing is perfect, and I actively invite people to email me or utilise the fans@ address for a more direct and efficient answer, if it's required, but whether a former Director used the words "dying club" or not, I think this is where we are miles apart. It's interesting going through historical posts on the old Deva Chat actually. Communication, or lack of, was previously the number 1 issue. Now, I believe we are on our way to getting this right, however there will always be another element that needs attention, that's the nature of the beast. We have opened avenues for more or more opportunities to co-opt on to the board, while asking for more volunteers to provide more support. The areas we could do with support in are those that require some leg work, but if we start producing matchday flyers etc, would there be anybody, including yourself, to help distribute those. The football club is not a closed shop and it doesn't belong to any single individual. People just need to get into that mindset. If there are interested parties, my details are below. Thanks, Alan. I find it kind of embarrassing that a former Director would post about the club 'dying' anyway. All sounds like sour grapes. People have got this bone to pick about the Tranmere game because we've not given then a massive ticket allocation. Personally can't even look at this board on Friday night. If we win, then we're world-beaters, if we lose it'll be clueless tactics, and no doubt a scapegoat like Kane Richards will be blamed. Anyhow, as to the original post made i think it clears up a lot of questions raised on this board, and shows there's a lot more going on behind the scenes than people care to realise. Good post.
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Mar 2, 2017 12:48:10 GMT
Post by cfcforme on Mar 2, 2017 12:48:10 GMT
Alan, one area you did miss was the discussion around extra tickets for Tranmere? Why were these not given to Tranmere to boost the attendance and our coffers?
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Mar 2, 2017 12:54:02 GMT
Post by Al on Mar 2, 2017 12:54:02 GMT
They're now, as a result of selling their allocation, buying tickets in our end according to their forum, and one or two work colleagues.
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Mar 2, 2017 13:05:02 GMT
Post by border collie on Mar 2, 2017 13:05:02 GMT
They're now, as a result of selling their allocation, buying tickets in our end according to their forum, and one or two work colleagues. This always happens with all ticket games . I assume Cheshire police and the Safety Advisory Group are behind the decision not to allocate more than 1100 tickets to Tranmere ,otherwise surely the club would have given them half of the ground ?
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Mar 2, 2017 13:07:52 GMT
Post by Al on Mar 2, 2017 13:07:52 GMT
If the LL is booked up then offer an alternative? I would post it as this: ******Competition Time******** Like our Page and Share this post to be in with the chance for you and a lucky friend to come to our game v xxxxx to spend the afternoon as our VIP Guests. On the day you will: - Allocated parking - Greeted at the Entrance by our dedicated staff - Given a full stadium tour - Pre Match Tea/Coffee and Cake in the Boardroom where you can meet the Chairman - Allocated seating in the main stand (comfy seats preferably) for 2. - Photos pitch side Etc, etc, etc. Once they're in give them the works, team sheets, programmes (throw in a couple of CFU membership forms folded inside the programmes. If we there are barriers of challenges to us doing something different markets wise then look for an alternative solution. Hi Al, As I mentioned, I think the "like and share" idea is a good one, but I really do hope you have sent these ideas to the fans@ email address. As mentioned, you are guaranteed a reply and whether that reply satisfies you are not, you can at least be in a position to provide feedback from it. If you have already done the above, then I apologise, but ideas like this are well worth sharing with those who can see if they can be implemented. Many thanks, Alan
Yep already sent to the email address.
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Post by Al on Mar 2, 2017 15:15:29 GMT
Just thought I would add, that I have had a response from the email address, and I am hoping that the Media Team now get in touch to discuss further.
The plan would be to launch an online 'Like and Share' competition for the Eastleigh game for 1 lucky winner plus friend to have a "VIP Experience" at Chester Football Club.
Let's see how it goes from here.
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Mar 2, 2017 17:07:18 GMT
Post by A word of appreciation! on Mar 2, 2017 17:07:18 GMT
Thanks, Alan, you are doing a fantastic job. Communication has never been better and we all appreciate that you come on here and answer our questions. Like others I would be interested why we have not given Tranmere a higher allocation of tickets as I am sure we want the maximum income possible. If I was a Tranmere fan without a ticket I would be buying a "Chester home" ticket to get to see the match and this cannot be good from a policing point of view. Do please keep up your good work and do not be put off my the minority of fans who are constantly being negative.
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Mar 2, 2017 17:50:12 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 2, 2017 17:50:12 GMT
There's a fair bit of sycophantic cuckoldry going on in this thread. All is well again because the figurehead has posted an essay, it seems.
I also don't like the reference to Rushden and Diamonds made in the original post - smacks of the whole "be lucky, at least we have a club to support" attitude we've had for years that basically tells us to get on with it and not want to better the club. The only thing us so-called "snipers" want is for the club to be the best it can be and it frustrates me when there is so much inaction.
Weeks ago we were told that there are "things in the pipeline" to promote and market tomorrow nights game. Did any of us think these "things in the pipeline" would amount to a tweet two days before the game asking Everton fans if they fancy coming down and an A5 flyer to be handed out in town the day before and ON THE DAY OF THE GAME (people tend to plan their Friday nights and weekends well in advance) by a young lad off his own back? He shouldn't have to. It stinks that we are asked to come up with ideas at such short notice when we were told weeks ago of "things in the pipeline" - it would appear that the club desperately need Mr Muscle as the pipeline is blocked.
Those people who are interested will have until 4pm to buy their ticket - unlikely. We may as well just walk round town handing free tickets out. I'm sorry but this whole thing has been panicked desperation and it frankly just isn't good enough.
Apathy from the very top is breeding apathy further down. I get that we all have a part to play, I get that. However, if the focus is on the rest of us to do everything, then what is the point of the CFU board?
As for the MM debate, if the club are happy to see dwindling attendances and poor atmospheres so long as we have a full Legends Lounge, and if they think that's what OUR money pays his healthy salary for, then that's up to them. I know I'm not.
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Mar 2, 2017 18:25:44 GMT
Post by Alan on Mar 2, 2017 18:25:44 GMT
There's a fair bit of sycophantic cuckoldry going on in this thread. All is well again because the figurehead has posted an essay, it seems. I also don't like the reference to Rushden and Diamonds made in the original post - smacks of the whole "be lucky, at least we have a club to support" attitude we've had for years that basically tells us to get on with it and not want to better the club. The only thing us so-called "snipers" want is for the club to be the best it can be and it frustrates me when there is so much inaction. Weeks ago we were told that there are "things in the pipeline" to promote and market tomorrow nights game. Did any of us think these "things in the pipeline" would amount to a tweet two days before the game asking Everton fans if they fancy coming down and an A5 flyer to be handed out in town the day before and ON THE DAY OF THE GAME (people tend to plan their Friday nights and weekends well in advance) by a young lad off his own back? Those people who are interested will have until 4pm to buy their ticket - unlikely. We may as well just walk round town handing free tickets out. I'm sorry but this whole thing has been panicked desperation and it frankly just isn't good enough. Apathy from the very top is breeding apathy further down. I get that we all have a part to play, I get that. However, if the focus is on the rest of us to do everything, then what is the point of the CFU board? This comment could not be further from the truth. If I felt that we should be lucky to have what we do currently, I wouldn't look at spending time engaging and openly communicating with the supporters and the club's owners and trying to help build a bigger and brighter future. As I said, we know we can do better, of course we can. We can all do better in everything that we do, whether that's running a football club or just within our day to day lives - Nobody is perfect. Over the last few months there have been several key changes behind the scenes, non-least the changing of Chair and an almost completely new media team. I keep reading this word apathy, it seems to be the word that gets rolled out, but wouldn't apathy be one that sees nobody caring enough to spend time sharing ideas or emailing into the club. I would suggest frustration to be a far better word to use. Is the frustration bourne out of historical issues and expectations? Who knows. There always seems to be some element of work that needs improving on, regardless of the efforts of those gone by. I will continue to post on Deva Chat as I believe it is integral in gaining feedback, and I will share thoughts and ideas with others when I can or when I see things; sometimes the good ideas get lost in between various other comments or I can be offline for a couple if days. How does handing out free tickets solve things? What about those who have paid £18 already, or our season ticket holders? Do we then reimburse them just so we can fill seats with people who only ever come to games because it's free; we did that over the last couple of years and we still only managed to give away 300 tickets for each game. To answer your final question. What is the point of the CFU board? Well we could have 1,000 people trying to run the football club, with 1,000 different ideas and viewpoints, but the reality it's really a practical idea. The focus is definitely is definitely not on everybody else to do everything, I don't think that has once been suggested, it's not as though the board are employed and paid a wage and then getting people around them to do things; I would love to be able to spend my entire working week at the ground, trust me, all we are asking for is some help and support. I have said many times now, just sharing a Twitter post or telling a friend is positive work, there are no big expectations. Thanks, Alan
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Post by real chester fan on Mar 2, 2017 18:50:39 GMT
My plea is Alan stop talking to these people. They don't want someone from the club to communicate with them, they just want someone to wind up with their constant moaning and bleating. At this rate we will be minus another chairman because nobody can take this constant negatively. STOP MOANING, GET DOWN TO THE CLUB AND HELP. do not say you have no time because you spend hours on here winding everyone up. I suspect this new forum is full of Wrexham supporters, it I now worse than the old one
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Mar 2, 2017 18:52:39 GMT
Post by richard on Mar 2, 2017 18:52:39 GMT
There's a fair bit of sycophantic cuckoldry going on in this thread. All is well again because the figurehead has posted an essay, it seems. I also don't like the reference to Rushden and Diamonds made in the original post - smacks of the whole "be lucky, at least we have a club to support" attitude we've had for years that basically tells us to get on with it and not want to better the club. The only thing us so-called "snipers" want is for the club to be the best it can be and it frustrates me when there is so much inaction. Weeks ago we were told that there are "things in the pipeline" to promote and market tomorrow nights game. Did any of us think these "things in the pipeline" would amount to a tweet two days before the game asking Everton fans if they fancy coming down and an A5 flyer to be handed out in town the day before and ON THE DAY OF THE GAME (people tend to plan their Friday nights and weekends well in advance) by a young lad off his own back? He shouldn't have to. It stinks that we are asked to come up with ideas at such short notice when we were told weeks ago of "things in the pipeline" - it would appear that the club desperately need Mr Muscle as the pipeline is blocked. Those people who are interested will have until 4pm to buy their ticket - unlikely. We may as well just walk round town handing free tickets out. I'm sorry but this whole thing has been panicked desperation and it frankly just isn't good enough. Apathy from the very top is breeding apathy further down. I get that we all have a part to play, I get that. However, if the focus is on the rest of us to do everything, then what is the point of the CFU board? As for the MM debate, if the club are happy to see dwindling attendances and poor atmospheres so long as we have a full Legends Lounge, and if they think that's what OUR money pays his healthy salary for, then that's up to them. I know I'm not. Fair enough you are not happy. I think we all know that now. I'm not sure if you will ever be happy whilst there are some faults in the way our club is run. That being the case you are set to be continually miserable, because no model is without fault, no company is perfect and no individual without fault. What you seem to forget in your headlong journey of angst is that there are plenty of things to celebrate too. It's not so much about things that are not right, but what can we cumulatively do to help move things along, step by step to improve things. Every time you heap criticism on people like Alan or accuse those with different opinions of sycophantic behaviour, you are in effect criticising yourself, because like it or not, we are all in this together. Have you ever thought of the affect of some of the stuff you say on the volunteers and staff? Do you even care? If you could spend half of the time you spend on here moaning in making an actual positive contribution to our cause you would do us all a favour and as well as helping us you would feel much happier yourself.
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Mar 2, 2017 19:18:36 GMT
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Post by cfcforme on Mar 2, 2017 19:18:36 GMT
Just thought I would add, that I have had a response from the email address, and I am hoping that the Media Team now get in touch to discuss further. The plan would be to launch an online 'Like and Share' competition for the Eastleigh game for 1 lucky winner plus friend to have a "VIP Experience" at Chester Football Club. Let's see how it goes from here. As well as 'like and share', don't forget the old "tag a friend in the comments below that you'd bring with you if you win"
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Mar 2, 2017 19:30:49 GMT
Post by Derry Blue on Mar 2, 2017 19:30:49 GMT
My plea is Alan stop talking to these people. They don't want someone from the club to communicate with them, they just want someone to wind up with their constant moaning and bleating. At this rate we will be minus another chairman because nobody can take this constant negatively. STOP MOANING, GET DOWN TO THE CLUB AND HELP. do not say you have no time because you spend hours on here winding everyone up. I suspect this new forum is full of Wrexham supporters, it I now worse than the old one Well said. If Alan said he'd give the club £1 million free of strings, they'd say "Why only a million."
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Mar 2, 2017 19:45:07 GMT
Post by matchday1965 on Mar 2, 2017 19:45:07 GMT
i'd rather be where we are today then under sm*** and va***** this time 7 years ago we had no club and almost lost our ground all va***** wanted was the leases no football club
keep up the good work alan
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A Plea
Mar 2, 2017 19:48:50 GMT
Post by Real Sychdyn Blue on Mar 2, 2017 19:48:50 GMT
There's a fair bit of sycophantic cuckoldry going on in this thread. All is well again because the figurehead has posted an essay, it seems. I also don't like the reference to Rushden and Diamonds made in the original post - smacks of the whole "be lucky, at least we have a club to support" attitude we've had for years that basically tells us to get on with it and not want to better the club. The only thing us so-called "snipers" want is for the club to be the best it can be and it frustrates me when there is so much inaction. Weeks ago we were told that there are "things in the pipeline" to promote and market tomorrow nights game. Did any of us think these "things in the pipeline" would amount to a tweet two days before the game asking Everton fans if they fancy coming down and an A5 flyer to be handed out in town the day before and ON THE DAY OF THE GAME (people tend to plan their Friday nights and weekends well in advance) by a young lad off his own back? He shouldn't have to. It stinks that we are asked to come up with ideas at such short notice when we were told weeks ago of "things in the pipeline" - it would appear that the club desperately need Mr Muscle as the pipeline is blocked. Those people who are interested will have until 4pm to buy their ticket - unlikely. We may as well just walk round town handing free tickets out. I'm sorry but this whole thing has been panicked desperation and it frankly just isn't good enough. Apathy from the very top is breeding apathy further down. I get that we all have a part to play, I get that. However, if the focus is on the rest of us to do everything, then what is the point of the CFU board? As for the MM debate, if the club are happy to see dwindling attendances and poor atmospheres so long as we have a full Legends Lounge, and if they think that's what OUR money pays his healthy salary for, then that's up to them. I know I'm not. Fair enough you are not happy. I think we all know that now. I'm not sure if you will ever be happy whilst there are some faults in the way our club is run. That being the case you are set to be continually miserable, because no model is without fault, no company is perfect and no individual without fault. What you seem to forget in your headlong journey of angst is that there are plenty of things to celebrate too. It's not so much about things that are not right, but what can we cumulatively do to help move things along, step by step to improve things. Every time you heap criticism on people like Alan or accuse those with different opinions of sycophantic behaviour, you are in effect criticising yourself, because like it or not, we are all in this together. Have you ever thought of the affect of some of the stuff you say on the volunteers and staff? Do you even care? If you could spend half of the time you spend on here moaning in making an actual positive contribution to our cause you would do us all a favour and as well as helping us you would feel much happier yourself.
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A Plea
Mar 2, 2017 19:50:55 GMT
Post by richard on Mar 2, 2017 19:50:55 GMT
My plea is Alan stop talking to these people. They don't want someone from the club to communicate with them, they just want someone to wind up with their constant moaning and bleating. At this rate we will be minus another chairman because nobody can take this constant negatively. STOP MOANING, GET DOWN TO THE CLUB AND HELP. do not say you have no time because you spend hours on here winding everyone up. I suspect this new forum is full of Wrexham supporters, it I now worse than the old one Well said. If Alan said he'd give the club £1 million free of strings, they'd say "Why only a million." I too worry about this. Alan is young dad with a job and whilst he clearly has a passion for the club and has really taken up the batton in terms of communicating with posters on this board, for some it will never be enough. Some may even have personal agendas? We are seriously struggling with the recruitment of volunteers at board level, yet it seems that there are some on this forum are oblivious to what's good and will only be happy when those that are breaking their neck is to move us forward are driven out by the constant peddling of misery.
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A Plea
Mar 2, 2017 19:53:28 GMT
Post by Real Sychdyn Blue on Mar 2, 2017 19:53:28 GMT
Try supporting your team in any way you can ,I am unsure whether you might be a closet red,there are a few in Sychdyn.
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A Plea
Mar 2, 2017 19:58:42 GMT
Post by A word of appreciation on Mar 2, 2017 19:58:42 GMT
Alan,
I wonder if you can answer my question in the post above? You respond to those who express negative comments, but my question as a CFU member was simply....why did we not allocate more tickets to Tranmere to raise income.
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A Plea
Mar 2, 2017 20:09:39 GMT
Post by Alan on Mar 2, 2017 20:09:39 GMT
Alan, I wonder if you can answer my question in the post above? You respond to those who express negative comments, but my question as a CFU member was simply....why did we not allocate more tickets to Tranmere to raise income. Apologies, I genuinely missed your question. As I said in a previous post, sometimes some questions do get lost. There are couple of reasons for this, and whatever path the club chose to take it would have ended up in a no win. Firstly, by filling the whole of the west stand with Tranmere, there would be added Policing costs as their supporters would have reached down to the Harry Mac as well as the Maxiflow Stand, even with netting, supporters are extremely close at Chester. Also, with the non allocation of seats, we instantly lose 10% of capacity, so we would never have been able to fill the whole stand anyway, plus the segregation as explained above, we may have been looking at only allowing for around another 250-300 supporters in the West Stand. With the extra Policing cost any extra income would have been lost. As was also mentioned at the last CFU meeting by Laurence Kirby, we have around 90 season ticket holders in that stand, who's combined annual contribution to the club exceeds £20,000; using some basic maths. There is the argument that they may have moved, however in the past the football club and board has been crtisicied for not looking after their own enough. Could we risk the supporters who contribute annually to a season ticket thinking it's not worth it because the club moves them for an extra couple of grand? There is a much bigger picture than just handing over tickets to away supporters, and every option is weighed up when making a decision. I hope this goes some way to answering your question. Many thanks, Alan
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