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Post by Pseudoscally on Mar 2, 2017 20:14:39 GMT
Well said. If Alan said he'd give the club £1 million free of strings, they'd say "Why only a million." I too worry about this. Alan is young dad with a job and whilst he clearly has a passion for the club and has really taken up the batton in terms of communicating with posters on this board, for some it will never be enough. Some may even have personal agendas? We are seriously struggling with the recruitment of volunteers at board level, yet it seems that there are some on this forum are oblivious to what's good and will only be happy when those that are breaking their neck is to move us forward are driven out by the constant peddling of misery. I think both Richard and Alan have reacted a little over the top to some valid comments put forward by Sychdyn Blue. I don't think for one minute that he is attacking any of the volunteers at the club, more over he is quite specific in where he thinks there needs to be an improvement.
Unfortunately parts of his post which could have been construed as a little over zealous have been highlighted and his actual valid question regarding 'things in the pipeline' promise of MM has been ignored.
Maybe it's time to stop being overly defensive every time there is criticism of the club. A crowd of 3500 against Tranmere is deeply disappointing.
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Mar 2, 2017 20:17:43 GMT
Post by sirfred on Mar 2, 2017 20:17:43 GMT
Alan your efforts are appreciated but I suppose the danger of coming on fans forums is that you will usually find some very strange people (me included)who would argue with their own shadow - some views are fair some quite outrageous but that's what you get with forums- it's commendable you are engaging with fans and I understand it's all in your own time with having a job and a family it's not easy I know - I suppose the more you open yourself and the Club up the more you you leave yourself open for sniping- my advice is carry on please as it's a refreshing change and don't get too overly disheartened by us - cheers Fred
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Post by A word of appreciation on Mar 2, 2017 20:23:01 GMT
Thanks, Alan, for answering my question. I doubt there is any other football club where one can get an instant response from their Chairman! I may not agree but that is why I vote for a CFU Board who make these decisions.
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Post by Alan on Mar 2, 2017 20:26:32 GMT
I too worry about this. Alan is young dad with a job and whilst he clearly has a passion for the club and has really taken up the batton in terms of communicating with posters on this board, for some it will never be enough. Some may even have personal agendas? We are seriously struggling with the recruitment of volunteers at board level, yet it seems that there are some on this forum are oblivious to what's good and will only be happy when those that are breaking their neck is to move us forward are driven out by the constant peddling of misery. I think both Richard and Alan have reacted a little over the top to some valid comments put forward by Sychdyn Blue. I don't think for one minute that he is attacking any of the volunteers at the club, more over he is quite specific in where he thinks there needs to be an improvement.
Unfortunately parts of his post which could have been construed as a little over zealous have been highlighted and his actual valid question regarding 'things in the pipeline' promise of MM has been ignored.
Maybe it's time to stop being overly defensive every time there is criticism of the club. A crowd of 3500 against Tranmere is deeply disappointing.
Hi Pseudoscally, I am sorry if I came across over zealous; I have re-read my comments and I believe I answered the questions and comments put towards the club has diplomatically and honestly as possible, I think that is the downside to reading and commenting on the internet. The comments attributed to Mark Marguire are ones I don't believe would be right for me to answer, however I am sure Mark would happily give anybody an answer to their question if they contact him directly. Thanks, Alan |
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Post by Alan on Mar 2, 2017 20:28:22 GMT
Alan your efforts are appreciated but I suppose the danger of coming on fans forums is that you will usually find some very strange people (me included)who would argue with their own shadow - some views are fair some quite outrageous but that's what you get with forums- it's commendable you are engaging with fans and I understand it's all in your own time with having a job and a family it's not easy I know - I suppose the more you open yourself and the Club up the more you you leave yourself open for sniping- my advice is carry on please as it's a refreshing change and don't get too overly disheartened by us - cheers Fred Hi sirfred, There will always be a differing of opinion, I've been around social media and the old Deva Chat long enough to know this. If everybody had the same thought process, how can we grow and improve effectively and efficiently. Thanks, Alan |
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Post by Krankie's Ghost on Mar 2, 2017 21:05:22 GMT
Tbf you seem fairly well balanced Alan, I think pseudoscally (a top poster btw) was mainly talking about Richard.
Richard in all his posts shows he's a settler. He's happy to settle for a club to watch. Other fans are strivers. We strive to want more. We want the club to be the best it can, and it won't be that if we just settle and let the club drift.
As PS says, no-one is ripping the club from every angle, most at pains to point out the good things, the discussion about is about where club is falling down - and this very discussion has lead to dialogue and may lead to new initiatives which move the club on.
So Richard, wind it in yeah and let the adults have a chat.
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Mar 2, 2017 21:26:54 GMT
Post by A real chester fan on Mar 2, 2017 21:26:54 GMT
Adults, you are having a laugh Al and Krankies Ghost clearly have hidden agendas and the mentality of 6year olds, my son in primary school can hold a more balanced conversations than these two
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Mar 2, 2017 21:35:26 GMT
Post by richard on Mar 2, 2017 21:35:26 GMT
Tbf you seem fairly well balanced Alan, I think pseudoscally (a top poster btw) was mainly talking about Richard. Richard in all his posts shows he's a settler. He's happy to settle for a club to watch. Other fans are strivers. We strive to want more. We want the club to be the best it can, and it won't be that if we just settle and let the club drift. As PS says, no-one is ripping the club from every angle, most at pains to point out the good things, the discussion about is about where club is falling down - and this very discussion has lead to dialogue and may lead to new initiatives which move the club on. So Richard, wind it in yeah and let the adults have a chat. I won't be winding anything in pal. As for adults having chat, well I see little in terms of adult behaviour in some of the posts that are simply bent on a narrative of negativity. Such behavioural tendencies are not adult at all. I'm not for one moment saying that some of the points that are made do not have merit. Far from it, however, the essence of such points are lost in the abject negativity that pervades the bulk of such posts. As for being a settler, well to a degree you are correct, but only in as much as i am eternally grateful for what we have achieved to date. Of course it is right to want to move forward and I want that too. To think of our resurrected club competing at the highest level possible is my dream too. My point remains that the challenges that remain for us to move upwards will only be achieved by a policy of working hard with a positive outlook within the constraints that face us. When we make mistakes as we will, then they are our mistakes and we must learn from them. Not sharing your views does not make them wrong. It's just different strokes. |
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Mar 2, 2017 21:39:39 GMT
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Post by A real chester fan on Mar 2, 2017 21:39:39 GMT
Well said Richard, a true blue
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Post by dimps1 on Mar 2, 2017 21:40:57 GMT
A fantastic post .
As a fan of wxm fc I wish you all the luck in the future long may our (friendly)rivalry continue .
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Post by Hannibal on Mar 2, 2017 22:29:33 GMT
A fantastic post . As a fan of wxm fc I wish you all the luck in the future long may our (friendly)rivalry continue . Friendly rivalry ..... I doubt it's ever been that. |
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Post by TheTheremin on Mar 3, 2017 0:06:10 GMT
Despite assurances that there was "loads in the pipeline" for the Tranmere game when asked 3 weeks ago we've done nothing. Just words. But the chairman posts if here so all is sound. It was one of those former directors who said the club is dying pal. That's because the apathy from the club on these big occasions is breeding apathy from supporters. ' No-one is dissing these long term projects you mention, but it's not bringing people in, we're making a loss and you cannot defend the inaction for this game with that. Simple point and it seems to have gone over your head: THE CLUB IS THE SUPPORTERS That is the model we have. It's that basic. You either want it or you don't. |
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Post by Hannibal on Mar 3, 2017 8:55:38 GMT
I don't feel like an owner of the club, when we're kept in the dark about player's fitness.
Can Alan say whether or not Akintunde and Mahon both had scans at Grosvenor Nuffield last week. If yes what is the situation with Aki8ntiunde?
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Post by Blue in the stand on Mar 3, 2017 9:20:37 GMT
I don't feel like an owner of the club, when we're kept in the dark about player's fitness. Can Alan say whether or not Akintunde and Mahon both had scans at Grosvenor Nuffield last week. If yes what is the situation with Aki8ntiunde? The ownership model of the club has no impacts on JMs decision not to update in detail on the injury situation so I struggle to see the link between the two . I have yet to see Levy do an update on Kane's calf injury or the Glazers on Rooneys hairline fracture |
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Post by stuartrimmer on Mar 3, 2017 9:29:18 GMT
Alan, I wonder if you can answer my question in the post above? You respond to those who express negative comments, but my question as a CFU member was simply....why did we not allocate more tickets to Tranmere to raise income. Have you emailed him ? He has asked that anyone with ideas or questions to do just that . |
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Post by agl on Mar 3, 2017 11:14:21 GMT
There's a fair bit of sycophantic cuckoldry going on in this thread. All is well again because the figurehead has posted an essay, it seems. I also don't like the reference to Rushden and Diamonds made in the original post - smacks of the whole "be lucky, at least we have a club to support" attitude we've had for years that basically tells us to get on with it and not want to better the club. The only thing us so-called "snipers" want is for the club to be the best it can be and it frustrates me when there is so much inaction. Weeks ago we were told that there are "things in the pipeline" to promote and market tomorrow nights game. Did any of us think these "things in the pipeline" would amount to a tweet two days before the game asking Everton fans if they fancy coming down and an A5 flyer to be handed out in town the day before and ON THE DAY OF THE GAME (people tend to plan their Friday nights and weekends well in advance) by a young lad off his own back? He shouldn't have to. It stinks that we are asked to come up with ideas at such short notice when we were told weeks ago of "things in the pipeline" - it would appear that the club desperately need Mr Muscle as the pipeline is blocked. Those people who are interested will have until 4pm to buy their ticket - unlikely. We may as well just walk round town handing free tickets out. I'm sorry but this whole thing has been panicked desperation and it frankly just isn't good enough. Apathy from the very top is breeding apathy further down. I get that we all have a part to play, I get that. However, if the focus is on the rest of us to do everything, then what is the point of the CFU board? As for the MM debate, if the club are happy to see dwindling attendances and poor atmospheres so long as we have a full Legends Lounge, and if they think that's what OUR money pays his healthy salary for, then that's up to them. I know I'm not. As so often you make some valid points and raise concerns that many of us share but you tend to undermine your arguments by coming across as patronising and santimonious. There's no need to sneer at those of us who trust the elected board to do their best (but accept that mistakes are made). |
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Post by Arrogant Blue on Mar 3, 2017 12:12:59 GMT
Alan,
Why doesn't Tony Allen make a database obtaining all the e-mails of the fans, local businesses, anyone who has ever brought anything online etc and send out offers, promotions, matches by e-mail? Such a cheap and cost effective way of promoting events, offers etc. People can then forward the e-mails on etc.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 12:22:22 GMT
Alan,
Your reference to "former Directors on this very board that post" I presume refers to me as I am the one who used the D word. I would ask you to read what I wrote in its full context.
"We have had enough visitors to the ground over the last 7 years to sell our allocation ten fold. We desperately need a (long promised) customer relationship management, or CRM, system in place. You would be very surprised how attached you become to something you like that then emails you occasionally. It is about tempting back the young families that attend with schools and YFCs after their initial visit, and growing an affinity. If that means that they pay £20 for a family ticket to entice them, then some of the season ticket holders would surely have to accept that this is a small price to pay to try to grow our fanbase.
Without being over dramatic, currently we are dying. Our older fanbase will naturally shrink and we are not doing enough to grow it from the bottom. What good is the CT work without any follow up?
The idea above regarding a shares and likes draw for a meal for two or a family ticket is worth a try no? We have volunteers who do this sort of thing, empower them and give them a bit of responsibility and some prizes.
And regarding Jon McCarthy, if it was him who blocked the selling 2000 tickets to away fans, I'm sorry Jon but your players were at there very best this season 2nd half away at Prenton Park when there were at least double that. We need the extra money badly. An extra 900 tickets to them at ave £12 takes a big chunk off the £20k defecit, and would have really helped towards the policing bill for the game. It also reduces the likelihood of any agro, and there are now bound to be away fans in the home end, and bound to be ticketless fans outside..."
A constructive post no? Yes it is critical of certain things, but I'm sorry you will have to take that when golden opportunities are missed. Christ knows every other board member has / did. A lot of the points I make you answer in your email, yet choose to take offence at one line. Any club that is doing so well on the pitch, yet suffering poor attendances, have a dying fan base. We (and it is we, we are all responsible) need to implement things that change this. I see from your post that some of these things are being done already, yet as a supporter who listens to all CFU meetings, reads all social media and the papers, I wasn't aware?
And as stated above, I know the rigours. I also know that you need a full board with no passengers. That makes things easier.
Keep up the good work, good luck with the rest of the season. You know how to get me if you ever want to talk to me.
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Post by Alan on Mar 3, 2017 12:28:46 GMT
Alan, Why doesn't Tony Allen make a database obtaining all the e-mails of the fans, local businesses, anyone who has ever brought anything online etc and send out offers, promotions, matches by e-mail? Such a cheap and cost effective way of promoting events, offers etc. People can then forward the e-mails on etc. Cheers Hi Arrogant Blue, This is one area we absolutely dedicated to getting up and running. The problem is, over the last 12 months we have been trying to play catch up with this; who sets it up, who maintains it, somebody with experience of data protection etc. All those who have bought a ticket for the Tranmere game should have had details taken, this includes those buying from the ground or online. As time goes on and hopefully with the option of buying tickets online becoming a permanent fixture next season, the information we gather will grow and grow and we can the. begin utilising that data to target certain audiences. We could even expand it to people purchasing in the club shop for example. Also, the hope is that the new website will allow for far easier intergration into a wider system. There is currently the database of CFU members, but that's where it ends. Like many, I embrace the use of email to engage, but creating a worthwhile database takes a little bit of time, but we will get there with it. Many thanks, Alan |
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Post by Anders on Mar 3, 2017 12:38:59 GMT
Alan, I wonder if you can answer my question in the post above? You respond to those who express negative comments, but my question as a CFU member was simply....why did we not allocate more tickets to Tranmere to raise income. Apologies, I genuinely missed your question. As I said in a previous post, sometimes some questions do get lost. There are couple of reasons for this, and whatever path the club chose to take it would have ended up in a no win. Firstly, by filling the whole of the west stand with Tranmere, there would be added Policing costs as their supporters would have reached down to the Harry Mac as well as the Maxiflow Stand, even with netting, supporters are extremely close at Chester. Also, with the non allocation of seats, we instantly lose 10% of capacity, so we would never have been able to fill the whole stand anyway, plus the segregation as explained above, we may have been looking at only allowing for around another 250-300 supporters in the West Stand. With the extra Policing cost any extra income would have been lost. As was also mentioned at the last CFU meeting by Laurence Kirby, we have around 90 season ticket holders in that stand, who's combined annual contribution to the club exceeds £20,000; using some basic maths. There is the argument that they may have moved, however in the past the football club and board has been crtisicied for not looking after their own enough. Could we risk the supporters who contribute annually to a season ticket thinking it's not worth it because the club moves them for an extra couple of grand? There is a much bigger picture than just handing over tickets to away supporters, and every option is weighed up when making a decision. I hope this goes some way to answering your question. Many thanks, Alan Considering the above, Alan has been badgered a fair bit on here recently about what’s being done to entice our own supporters through so it’s a bit contradictory from some to be so desperate for a quick few quid from Tranmere at the expense of some of our own fans. Not sure what the capacity of the Deva is at the moment, I don’t think it’s at full as far as I’m aware so would be interested to know. God knows what we need to do to get it up to full if so, polish the door handles? We go to some awful places who seemingly have no problem. Anyway, if Chester fans occupied just the East and Harry Mac with potentially neither at full capacity what would the maximum Chester allocation be, 3000? Wasn’t there 2,800+ there for Wrexham who some are supposedly avoiding until the bubble is gone. I’m not saying we’ll necessarily pull that many in, but when we’re trying to do so it would be ridiculous to turn around and say “Sorry we don’t want you this week as we’ve sold ourselves to Tranmere, come back next week though”. I reckon the response would be something along the lines of sod off then. In my opinion the size of the ground is what it is, the logistics are what they are, deal with it. |
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Post by Alan on Mar 3, 2017 12:42:09 GMT
Alan, Your reference to "former Directors on this very board that post" I presume refers to me as I am the one who used the D word. I would ask you to read what I wrote in its full context. "We have had enough visitors to the ground over the last 7 years to sell our allocation ten fold. We desperately need a (long promised) customer relationship management, or CRM, system in place. You would be very surprised how attached you become to something you like that then emails you occasionally. It is about tempting back the young families that attend with schools and YFCs after their initial visit, and growing an affinity. If that means that they pay £20 for a family ticket to entice them, then some of the season ticket holders would surely have to accept that this is a small price to pay to try to grow our fanbase.
Without being over dramatic, currently we are dying. Our older fanbase will naturally shrink and we are not doing enough to grow it from the bottom. What good is the CT work without any follow up?
The idea above regarding a shares and likes draw for a meal for two or a family ticket is worth a try no? We have volunteers who do this sort of thing, empower them and give them a bit of responsibility and some prizes.
And regarding Jon McCarthy, if it was him who blocked the selling 2000 tickets to away fans, I'm sorry Jon but your players were at there very best this season 2nd half away at Prenton Park when there were at least double that. We need the extra money badly. An extra 900 tickets to them at ave £12 takes a big chunk off the £20k defecit, and would have really helped towards the policing bill for the game. It also reduces the likelihood of any agro, and there are now bound to be away fans in the home end, and bound to be ticketless fans outside..."A constructive post no? Yes it is critical of certain things, but I'm sorry you will have to take that when golden opportunities are missed. Christ knows every other board member has / did. A lot of the points I make you answer in your email, yet choose to take offence at one line. Any club that is doing so well on the pitch, yet suffering poor attendances, have a dying fan base. We (and it is we, we are all responsible) need to implement things that change this. I see from your post that some of these things are being done already, yet as a supporter who listens to all CFU meetings, reads all social media and the papers, I wasn't aware? And as stated above, I know the rigours. I also know that you need a full board with no passengers. That makes things easier. Keep up the good work, good luck with the rest of the season. You know how to get me if you ever want to talk to me. Mark Hi Mark, Thank you for taking the time to expand on your previous comments and re-iterate the context. As you will appreciate, I have only chaired two CFU meetings since taking the reins, so in such a short space of time it's been difficult to expand on certain things; you will know as well as anybody how something's don't happen overnight. My absolutely priority is to make sure that there is still a football club for the next generation to enjoy, and within the ongoing strategic plan that began last year, key areas have been identified in how we engage with young people to become involved in the club; we have seen the work being done by the Harry Mac lads to raise money for flags and for that they should be widely applauded. There is also the work being done with Jim Green and the Community Trust, and as somebody who was originally Community Director and who sat in an unofficial capacity within that board too, I appreciate and understand the time, passion and dedication being put into growing our message throughout the whole area. During my time as Community Director, I also worked for the re-launch of the Junior Blues and the family ticket in a dedicated family zone, I know how important the youngsters are to the very future of Chester Football Club I am always open to listening to all opinions, particularly of those who have previously been involved on the board. I have no agenda, nor do I come with an ego. I just have a drive to make sure I represent the club in the most professional and community minded way possible. The whole board are behind improving the way we do things, and we will get there. Thanks, Alan |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 3, 2017 12:49:39 GMT
Richard, I apologise for the wording of the first line of my post but I make no apologies for the overall tone of it. I am not a "sniper", I am not making any personal attacks and I don't have any personal agendas with the board members as I hardly know them. However, I am negative over this because I feel I have a right to be.
We have talked the Tranmere "pipeline" lie to death in here but the amount of times I have read on this forum, it's previous incarnation and various social media platforms, of good ideas put forward to the club being met with no response or just sidelined is frustrating. It's still happening now. People are genuinely trying to make a difference in a way they feel they can but appear to be hitting a brick wall. Laurence Kirby is a crucial member of the board for what he does and I know risks are risks, but if they don't threaten the long-term financial sustainability of the football club then why can't we just try these things? That's the apathy from the top to which I referred.
Alan, we all appreciate the time you are spending responding to these concerns.
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Post by eyeswideopen on Mar 3, 2017 12:53:40 GMT
Alan, I wonder if you can answer my question in the post above? You respond to those who express negative comments, but my question as a CFU member was simply....why did we not allocate more tickets to Tranmere to raise income. Apologies, I genuinely missed your question. As I said in a previous post, sometimes some questions do get lost. There are couple of reasons for this, and whatever path the club chose to take it would have ended up in a no win. Firstly, by filling the whole of the west stand with Tranmere, there would be added Policing costs as their supporters would have reached down to the Harry Mac as well as the Maxiflow Stand, even with netting, supporters are extremely close at Chester. Also, with the non allocation of seats, we instantly lose 10% of capacity, so we would never have been able to fill the whole stand anyway, plus the segregation as explained above, we may have been looking at only allowing for around another 250-300 supporters in the West Stand. With the extra Policing cost any extra income would have been lost. As was also mentioned at the last CFU meeting by Laurence Kirby, we have around 90 season ticket holders in that stand, who's combined annual contribution to the club exceeds £20,000; using some basic maths. There is the argument that they may have moved, however in the past the football club and board has been crtisicied for not looking after their own enough. Could we risk the supporters who contribute annually to a season ticket thinking it's not worth it because the club moves them for an extra couple of grand? There is a much bigger picture than just handing over tickets to away supporters, and every option is weighed up when making a decision. I hope this goes some way to answering your question. Many thanks, Alan Sorry Alan but those figures don't quite add up to me, you would not need to segregate the west stand from the east stand so no loss there, yes you would have to lose a block towards the Harry Mac, which would be around 100-150 seats tops and then the 10% deduction for non allocated seats, based on those two stats alone are you saying the west stand has a capacity of around 500, as that would then give you your final figure of 250-300? I thought the west stand had a capacity of around 8-9 hundred. Yes there would be extra policing bills, or we could have really thought about it and made the end two blocks of tranmere fans a family zone only and run a ticket which allowed both an adult and an under 14 in for say 20 quid, probably needing less police. This also brings in the extra revenue of programme sales, kiosk sales even 50-50 draw tickets etc. Moving on to your second point about the 90 season ticket holders, we are playing a club with the arguably the biggest fan base in the division and we are potentially missing out on extra revenue for fear of upsetting 90 people who can't see the bigger picture, and to be honest that's a completely unfair statement on the 90 as I would reckon that the vast majority of those 90 would have no problem with moving, and are we sure that of those 90 they are all coming tonight on a Friday night?? No-one least of all me is having a go at yourself here, it seems to anyone who isn't blind that without our volunteers we would have no club, at the moment no communication, no ball boys, no turnstile operators, no stewards, etc etc. the thing that is really riling people over this and not only only this is the club keeps missing a trick or is not savvy enough to make extra cash where it is blindingly obvious and that is purely over people who are paid to do this not doing this, but time and again a volunteer like yourself is forced to make an announcement almost covering up other people's incompetence. As has been said before, volunteers are the lifeblood of this club, they should never be criticised for trying to do something even if they do it badly, we can learn lessons from that, but some of the paid employees at the club should really take a look at themselves over this game, balance the books at the end of the season and ask themselves, where could we of improved, the answers are not difficult sometimes. |
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Post by Krankie's Ghost on Mar 3, 2017 13:26:15 GMT
Some excellent posts - this is what a fans' own club is about - discussion, inclusion and transparency. Ideas come from discussion, apathy and depair comes from the 'everything is rosey' crowd who view every complaint as an excuse to roll out the "look where we were in 2010" line. it's 2017, we've moved on from that.
I read somewhere from season ticket holder that they don't mind moving as it's all about whats best for the club, thats what everyone wants - a successful and sustainable club. That takes cash, fresh ideas to make that cash and ultimately a good healthy (ideally improving over time) fanbase.
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Post by richard on Mar 3, 2017 13:55:05 GMT
Richard, I apologise for the wording of the first line of my post but I make no apologies for the overall tone of it. I am not a "sniper", I am not making any personal attacks and I don't have any personal agendas with the board members as I hardly know them. However, I am negative over this because I feel I have a right to be. We have talked the Tranmere "pipeline" lie to death in here but the amount of times I have read on this forum, it's previous incarnation and various social media platforms, of good ideas put forward to the club being met with no response or just sidelined is frustrating. It's still happening now. People are genuinely trying to make a difference in a way they feel they can but appear to be hitting a brick wall. Laurence Kirby is a crucial member of the board for what he does and I know risks are risks, but if they don't threaten the long-term financial sustainability of the football club then why can't we just try these things? That's the apathy from the top to which I referred. Alan, we all appreciate the time you are spending responding to these concerns. Fair enough SB. We won't always agree, but whatever our views and the way we express them, we both want what's best for our club |
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Post by Neil Fishers Biggest Fan on Mar 3, 2017 15:48:29 GMT
Just a positive note, fans can be assured the as far as the Senior Blues is concerned ,we go from strength to strength, this morning another full house, on a miserable morning weather wise.
An excellent Hot Pot, the Senior Blues Foundation up and running, three upcoming events, one already sold out, yet more supporters joining today, two speakers already booked for next month....
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Post by garoldblue on Mar 3, 2017 16:03:35 GMT
Alan, Why doesn't Tony Allen make a database obtaining all the e-mails of the fans, local businesses, anyone who has ever brought anything online etc and send out offers, promotions, matches by e-mail? Such a cheap and cost effective way of promoting events, offers etc. People can then forward the e-mails on etc. Cheers Hi Arrogant Blue, This is one area we absolutely dedicated to getting up and running. The problem is, over the last 12 months we have been trying to play catch up with this; who sets it up, who maintains it, somebody with experience of data protection etc. All those who have bought a ticket for the Tranmere game should have had details taken, this includes those buying from the ground or online. As time goes on and hopefully with the option of buying tickets online becoming a permanent fixture next season, the information we gather will grow and grow and we can the. begin utilising that data to target certain audiences. We could even expand it to people purchasing in the club shop for example. Also, the hope is that the new website will allow for far easier intergration into a wider system. There is currently the database of CFU members, but that's where it ends. Like many, I embrace the use of email to engage, but creating a worthwhile database takes a little bit of time, but we will get there with it. Many thanks, Alan The database really shouldn't be that difficult to sort out, and you don't need to know the data protection act inside out to put one together - basically don't share anyone's details without permission, and keep it saved somewhere secure. If you have a CFU database already this should be able to be easily transferred on to a new system, the rest you can add in as you go until you have it linked to the new website. It's frustrating to hear that after 7 years and all of the different board members / staff we've had no one has seen this as a priority. |
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Mar 3, 2017 16:20:41 GMT
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Post by Krankie's Ghost on Mar 3, 2017 16:20:41 GMT
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Post by Alan on Mar 3, 2017 17:05:35 GMT
Hi Arrogant Blue, This is one area we absolutely dedicated to getting up and running. The problem is, over the last 12 months we have been trying to play catch up with this; who sets it up, who maintains it, somebody with experience of data protection etc. All those who have bought a ticket for the Tranmere game should have had details taken, this includes those buying from the ground or online. As time goes on and hopefully with the option of buying tickets online becoming a permanent fixture next season, the information we gather will grow and grow and we can the. begin utilising that data to target certain audiences. We could even expand it to people purchasing in the club shop for example. Also, the hope is that the new website will allow for far easier intergration into a wider system. There is currently the database of CFU members, but that's where it ends. Like many, I embrace the use of email to engage, but creating a worthwhile database takes a little bit of time, but we will get there with it. Many thanks, Alan The database really shouldn't be that difficult to sort out, and you don't need to know the data protection act inside out to put one together - basically don't share anyone's details without permission, and keep it saved somewhere secure. If you have a CFU database already this should be able to be easily transferred on to a new system, the rest you can add in as you go until you have it linked to the new website. It's frustrating to hear that after 7 years and all of the different board members / staff we've had no one has seen this as a priority. Hi garoldblue, I share your frustration too, and a good quality, working database is a priority. The key now is utilise every tool at our disposal to build said database and ensure that it works to our benefit. Thanks, Alan |
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Mar 3, 2017 17:11:58 GMT
Post by iandychesterfc on Mar 3, 2017 17:11:58 GMT
Alan,
I've always said a good quality database should include skills/specialisms. It makes it very easy for the club to then call on friends when certain works / issues arise thus saving costs.
I'd go further and have a section on the new site to allow fans (CFU Membership could be a good indicator as would boost numbers) to show their support for the club and have their skills/trades listed for both the club - and other fans to use.
It's something with fits in with the 'community'element of the club. Members of that community helping out other members as well as the club.
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