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Post by sirfred on Mar 30, 2018 18:25:33 GMT
I have been a staunch supporter of Bignot but for the sake and future of our Club he will have to go - it has been a thankless task for him and its been a job not many could have succeeded however the relegation and apathy that is the fall out means that only a totally fresh start could save our club _ hope and season tickets are our lifeblood and with the same manager at the helm won't help shift tickets- I feel sorry for him but its been a disaster and change is desperately needed season end - if I were Bignot I would walk
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Post by strikerbob on Mar 30, 2018 18:39:00 GMT
I have been a staunch supporter of Bignot but for the sake and future of our Club he will have to go - it has been a thankless task for him and its been a job not many could have succeeded however the relegation and apathy that is the fall out means that only a totally fresh start could save our club _ hope and season tickets are our lifeblood and with the same manager at the helm won't help shift tickets- I feel sorry for him but its been a disaster and change is desperately needed season end - if I were Bignot I would walk Reading his interview in the week in the paper and listening to the one after the game this afternoon you get the impression that he doesn't expect to be here next season. Before him and the club were the same whereas now he speaks as if the two are separate. Agree with what you say above. He got a really poor team made poorer by our financial state and replaced by play and don't get paid players plus some youth. Not sure if he could really win. |
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Post by Oaks Blue on Mar 30, 2018 18:45:54 GMT
Why else do you think the board brought Young in?
It's clear that bignot will be replaced by NY in May
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Post by g1 on Mar 30, 2018 18:49:11 GMT
Why else do you think the board brought Young in? It's clear that bignot will be replaced by NY in May read the title fresh start get young back as manager it will be a backwards step sorry |
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Post by boughtonblue on Mar 30, 2018 19:04:48 GMT
This is a difficult one but on balance after seeing his interview after the match I've come to the conclusion he has to go. Ok he inherited a dud squad but he has instilled no fight or character in the team over the last 6 or 7 months. He and the team have just accepted the inevitable relegation and hung up there boots 3 months early. In his interview today he basically said the team had no characters or leaders, when we play well (admittedly not very often) he says 'now you are seeing what a Bignot team is about'. Well is it a Bignot team or not?It seems to be all about him, I first had my suspicions when he rollocked the team on the pitch after the Kiddie match. At Halifax he gave them a good rollocking in the first half and they conceded a goal about 3 minutes later!
In his defence he may just have been unlucky because he has undoubtly brought in some better players for less money but the results have just not happened. Bignot and the team seem to have just given up now and he was basically saying get rid of me now or give me a contract for next season in his interview today.
Decision time.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Mar 30, 2018 19:08:24 GMT
Bringing in NY or sticking with Bignot is not the way forward as the thread says “fresh”
Along with the new fresh approach from the board and it’s overhaul the same must occur with management backtoom staff and players to
Break the cycle of what we presently are which is nothing but a shambles
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Post by superman on Mar 30, 2018 19:19:04 GMT
Yep totally fresh start next season. Pay off Bignot now, see if NY and Gary Roberts will look after things to end of season and in the meantime start recruitment process. This might just encourage a few to turn up for the remaining games and pay for itself, or at least lose less. Board need to be decisive now.
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Post by btb on Mar 30, 2018 19:22:05 GMT
Bignot has to go now. I simply don't want him at the club anymore!
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Post by chesterken on Mar 30, 2018 19:27:04 GMT
Why else do you think the board brought Young in? It's clear that bignot will be replaced by NY in May read the title fresh start get young back as manager it will be a backwards step sorry Thanks but no thanks |
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Mar 30, 2018 19:34:08 GMT
Bignot is not the man. He has offered nothing.
The directors who landed us here continue to hide out of sight but its clear who is to blame.
We need a fresh start behind the scenes. Whoever trusted JM & MM cannot be trusted themselves.
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Post by oldsealandroadender on Mar 30, 2018 19:45:49 GMT
At the meeting that MB was at he insisted that the playing side should be kept full time for next season. For that reason he cannot stay on as manager.
The budget will probably dictate part time or a hybrid. For the future of the club that has to be the way to go initially.
And to be honest a lot of the players we had in the promotion seasons were better than most of the professionals we've had since that have cost considerably more in wages.
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Post by Oaks Blue on Mar 30, 2018 19:47:48 GMT
Why else do you think the board brought Young in? It's clear that bignot will be replaced by NY in May read the title fresh start get young back as manager it will be a backwards step sorry I completely agree. I was just stating the obvious. Can we afford a fresh start though? A young talented manager will command a good wage |
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Post by whopper1 on Mar 30, 2018 19:58:17 GMT
Andy holden will be the manager next season.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Mar 30, 2018 20:23:04 GMT
He inherited a mess and whatever cut-price budget players he has been allowed to bring in since taking over are, largely, our better players - eight of today's starting lineup were CUCKCarthy's molly-coddled bottlejobs.
I was still well in favour of giving him his own budget and his own pre-season this summer, however the fanbase is so split and with the absolute necessity for a big run on season ticket sales as soon as this disastrous campaign ends, it's with a heavy heart that I would say he probably has to go once the season is over. No point doing anything before then as we are down anyway and his contract ends in six weeks.
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Post by oldboneze on Mar 31, 2018 9:22:55 GMT
At the meeting that MB was at he insisted that the playing side should be kept full time for next season. For that reason he cannot stay on as manager. The budget will probably dictate part time or a hybrid. For the future of the club that has to be the way to go initially. And to be honest a lot of the players we had in the promotion seasons were better than most of the professionals we've had since that have cost considerably more in wages. In terms of the first team, you are probably right. But will there be an adverse impact on the Youth Academy?
These kids dream of being full-time professional footballers. The development of Sam Hughes, James Jones, Tom Crawford and Matty Waters has been exceptional . Part of their progress has been due to full time training with the first team. There are more talented players in the pipeline and they will hope to become first year professionals. If we have a part time first team will they stick around? Possibly, but in the longer term, probably not.
At present, our Youth Academy has an enviable reputation. Great management, great coaching, great results in various leagues and cups, and a great opportunity for the best of the players to progress to the first team. This also encourages others to join our Academy, but take away that opportunity and ambitious youngsters will think twice before joining us. This can be a downward cycle. Lower quality recruits leading to lower quality performances and less, if any, youth players progressing to the first team and no sales income.
To me, a return to part-time football must be a last resort, although I accept that budget constraints may make it inevitable. All I ask is that the decision is taken after considering the big picture and our commitment to youth development.
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Post by trev on Mar 31, 2018 10:02:20 GMT
At the meeting that MB was at he insisted that the playing side should be kept full time for next season. For that reason he cannot stay on as manager. The budget will probably dictate part time or a hybrid. For the future of the club that has to be the way to go initially. And to be honest a lot of the players we had in the promotion seasons were better than most of the professionals we've had since that have cost considerably more in wages. I found MBs comments at that meeting a little contradictory. On the one hand he made he case for the first team to remain full time in order to maintain the academy, but on the other, when answering a question if he would still be here next season MB said how he was able to get Solihull promoted with a budget similar to ours next season - But isn't it the case that Solihull were part-time back then ? Unfortunately to have a team remotely good enough on a 250k budget, even with Hannah etc being off loaded, it looks like we will need some sort of hybrid approach to player recruitment with a mainly part-time squad, but perhaps with full time contracts given to those coming through the academy as a pathway to professional football. But, I have no idea if this is a practical approach. |
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Post by bob7 on Mar 31, 2018 10:19:41 GMT
At the meeting that MB was at he insisted that the playing side should be kept full time for next season. For that reason he cannot stay on as manager. The budget will probably dictate part time or a hybrid. For the future of the club that has to be the way to go initially. And to be honest a lot of the players we had in the promotion seasons were better than most of the professionals we've had since that have cost considerably more in wages. I found MBs comments at that meeting a little contradictory. On the one hand he made he case for the first team to remain full time in order to maintain the academy, but on the other, when answering a question if he would still be here next season MB said how he was able to get Solihull promoted with a budget similar to ours next season - But isn't it the case that Solihull were part-time back then ? Unfortunately to have a team remotely good enough on a 250k budget, even with Hannah etc being off loaded, it looks like we will need some sort of hybrid approach to player recruitment with a mainly part-time squad, but perhaps with full time contracts given to those coming through the academy as a pathway to professional football. But, I have no idea if this is a practical approach. The North is a tough league and it's only getting stronger with the amount of teams with big budgets and those that are well supported. Stockport are moving towards full-time next season and Southport have already gone full-time with the players training during the day and on 52 week contracts. Therefore, the hybrid approach might the best way for you next season as full-time on a small budget could potentially be suicide. The hybrid way will also allow you to hoover up some of the best players that are unable to train full-time. |
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