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Post by HairyTriangle on Jan 31, 2017 21:23:27 GMT
There are some who believe that our 'natural level' is mid-conference. And they're happy to accept this.
Well to hell with that. We've been a football league club for over 100 years of our existence and that's where we belong.
The club has flat-lined for the last 3 or 4 years, and I'm convinced that this lack of ambition is one of the reasons for the fans staying away. It's time to push on - it's time to claim our rightful place in the football league again.
Now I'm not talking about a reckless spree that jeopardises everything that we believe in fans' ownership, however I have been told that the club has almost 300K (or almost an entire playing budget) in reserve. It's time to roll the dice. It's time to push on. It's time for those cold and timid souls to show some gumption.
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Post by cfcforme on Jan 31, 2017 21:33:17 GMT
It's time to roll the dice. "Rolling the dice" was Vaughan's strategy, and Smith before him..... we all know how that ended. Push on - yes! Boom or bust - never! |
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Post by HairyTriangle on Jan 31, 2017 21:36:57 GMT
That's why I said we should'nt have a reckless spree. I wasn't talking about a Vaughan-esque approach!
But we definitely need to push on.
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Post by Deva Chanter on Jan 31, 2017 21:37:08 GMT
Its also the strategy of quite a number of the teams below us in the league, like Southport for example.
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Post by Si on Jan 31, 2017 21:38:05 GMT
As a fans owned club it won't be easy. Either we get lucky with a crop of players similar to Braintree last year, or its a gradual process. First we have to build the fanbase and get us back to regular 2500 crowds, whilst making serious inroads into the community and maximising revenue streams. The next stage in our development is surely to find the funds to go proper full time?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 21:41:33 GMT
Like to think this season has been a real year of progression, and hopefully we push on next season. We have the right man in charge to do that. I'd like to see a continuation of youth lads breaking into the 1st team.
I do think the football league is a long way off for us. Just think the gap is far too big at the moment, dipping into the reserve would be far too risky
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Post by HairyTriangle on Jan 31, 2017 21:43:05 GMT
It's almost a paradox.
There's no way we'll generate regular crowds of 2500 unless we push on; but you think we need crowds of 2500 before we can push on. Chicken and egg!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 21:47:25 GMT
It's almost a paradox. There's no way we'll generate regular crowds of 2500 unless we push on; but you think we need crowds of 2500 before we can push on. Chicken and egg! Exactly. I know it's cliché but we really could do with a proper cup run, generate some proper interest from locals etc. One year we'll get lucky in the draw |
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Post by HairyTriangle on Jan 31, 2017 21:47:52 GMT
Like to think this season has been a real year of progression, and hopefully we push on next season. We have the right man in charge to do that. I'd like to see a continuation of youth lads breaking into the 1st team. I do think the football league is a long way off for us. Just think the gap is far too big at the moment, dipping into the reserve would be far too risky Hi Joey, In response to your points I just shouted out No! No! No! No I don't think the football league is a long way off for us. No I don't think the gap is too big. No I don't think that dipping into the reserve would be far too risky. We're not that far away - as I said, it's time to go for it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 21:49:29 GMT
think we could hold our own in league 2 not saying we could win it or go back down but mid to lower half of the table
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Post by Si on Jan 31, 2017 21:51:31 GMT
It's almost a paradox. There's no way we'll generate regular crowds of 2500 unless we push on; but you think we need crowds of 2500 before we can push on. Chicken and egg! I get what you're saying but we did used to get over 2000 no matter how crap we were but for various reasons we have lost fans. We need to get those fans back and work on building the next generation. I've got faith that Macca will keep us competitive on the pitch but realistically we will probably lose Alabi,Hughes and Lloyd in the summer and they will be tough to replace. We could really do with a cup run like Sutton and Lincoln to bring in the cash to allow us to compete with the big wage payers of this league. |
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Post by HairyTriangle on Jan 31, 2017 21:55:41 GMT
It's almost a paradox. There's no way we'll generate regular crowds of 2500 unless we push on; but you think we need crowds of 2500 before we can push on. Chicken and egg! I get what you're saying but we did used to get over 2000 no matter how crap we were but for various reasons we have lost fans. We need to get those fans back and work on building the next generation. I've got faith that Macca will keep us competitive on the pitch but realistically we will probably lose Alabi,Hughes and Lloyd in the summer and they will be tough to replace. We could really do with a cup run like Sutton and Lincoln to bring in the cash to allow us to compete with the big wage payers of this league. These are tactical considerations. And they may, just may, move the club forward in incremental steps. I don't believe that this approach will get us back into the football league though. We need to PUSH ON! |
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Post by Buckley Blue on Jan 31, 2017 22:00:16 GMT
My worry is the impetus will drop off and the season will fizzle out as the lads who have been magnificent just get tired. Regardless of initiatives off the park, results will ultimately bring some of the crowd back. We need another striker.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Jan 31, 2017 22:04:10 GMT
My worry is the impetus will drop off and the season will fizzle out as the lads who have been magnificent just get tired. Regardless of initiatives off the park, results will ultimately bring some of the crowd back. We need another striker. I agree BB. We do need extra depth up top, as we only have Alabi and Richards at the moment. |
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Post by HairyTriangle on Jan 31, 2017 22:09:01 GMT
think we could hold our own in league 2 not saying we could win it or go back down but mid to lower half of the table I agree. We could hold our own in league 2, especially with the extra half a million that comes from league football. But we have to get there first and to do that we need to ....... PUSH ON! |
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Post by Hannibal on Jan 31, 2017 22:10:16 GMT
Not sure if we have people watching matches at Steps 3,4, 5 and 6, but I doubt it. There are gems down there like Astles. These are the players that we need to develop. We're never going to have a budget to sign big players like Hannah again unless we have a cup run to at least Round 3.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Jan 31, 2017 22:11:50 GMT
We need a club scout, someone similar to a Chris Herbert. Just look at what Ryan Astles is turning into.
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Post by HairyTriangle on Jan 31, 2017 22:22:39 GMT
We need a club scout, someone similar to a Chris Herbert. Just look at what Ryan Astles is turning into. Bang on. If I recall the former players association offered to scout for free. I wouldn't know what to look for in a goalkeeper, but Grenville Middleton would. Likewise Alan Tarbuck and Gary Talbot volunteered to scout for players We shouldn't let this experience and expertise wither - we should pay their expenses, suck up their reports and make decisions accordingly. It's all part of moving forward. |
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Post by Dodge on Feb 1, 2017 13:39:39 GMT
We need a club scout, someone similar to a Chris Herbert. Just look at what Ryan Astles is turning into. Bang on. If I recall the former players association offered to scout for free. I wouldn't know what to look for in a goalkeeper, but Grenville Middleton would. Likewise Alan Tarbuck and Gary Talbot volunteered to scout for players We shouldn't let this experience and expertise wither - we should pay their expenses, suck up their reports and make decisions accordingly. It's all part of moving forward. Did club turn down their offer? Also where have you got the £300,000 reserves figure from? |
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Post by Al on Feb 1, 2017 14:03:51 GMT
There are some who believe that our 'natural level' is mid-conference. And they're happy to accept this. Well to hell with that. We've been a football league club for over 100 years of our existence and that's where we belong. The club has flat-lined for the last 3 or 4 years, and I'm convinced that this lack of ambition is one of the reasons for the fans staying away. It's time to push on - it's time to claim our rightful place in the football league again. Now I'm not talking about a reckless spree that jeopardises everything that we believe in fans' ownership, however I have been told that the club has almost 300K (or almost an entire playing budget) in reserve. It's time to roll the dice. It's time to push on. It's time for those cold and timid souls to show some gumption. Sorry mate but I don't get you.
On the one hand you say "it's time to push on" but then on the other you say about not going on a reckless spree, then immediately mention about us having 300k in reserve??
I doubt we have anywhere near 300k in reserve.
I want you to quantify what "Push On" means. Because to me it just sounds like a buzz word - like "Blue Sky Thinking" which sounds nice but actually means naff all (I hear this all the time in work from middle management types).
We continue to live within our means, pay what we can afford, and do everything we possibly can off the field to keep the club moving forward within its means. That is how we 'push on' but it will not result in overnight success. Our support should learn from the mistakes of old, there can never be a 'Boom or Bust' mentality to this club ever again. We return to that way of thinking and this club won't last very long.
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Post by Pseudoscally on Feb 1, 2017 14:17:09 GMT
I posted this in another thread and I think it's relevant here also.
'We have a huge problem in that if any of our players do well then they're straight away touted for bigger things.
To ultimately win promotion, which I think is possible even with our small budget then we need a squad of players that are prepared to stay here for at least 2/3 seasons and build something great.
We can be ambitious without breaking the bank and that's with positivity from the start of next season. I want to hear the manager come out and say he's got a squad of players capable of finishing in the top 5 and that, that is our goal. If the squad thinks that avoiding relegation is the only target then that's all we'll ever achieve. We have some good players who are more than capable of playing at a higher level so give them the confidence and the aspiration to do it with CFC.'
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Post by Hannibal on Feb 1, 2017 14:49:58 GMT
There are some who believe that our 'natural level' is mid-conference. And they're happy to accept this. Well to hell with that. We've been a football league club for over 100 years of our existence and that's where we belong. The club has flat-lined for the last 3 or 4 years, and I'm convinced that this lack of ambition is one of the reasons for the fans staying away. It's time to push on - it's time to claim our rightful place in the football league again. Now I'm not talking about a reckless spree that jeopardises everything that we believe in fans' ownership, however I have been told that the club has almost 300K (or almost an entire playing budget) in reserve. It's time to roll the dice. It's time to push on. It's time for those cold and timid souls to show some gumption. 74 by my reckoning. Sorry mate but I don't get you.
On the one hand you say "it's time to push on" but then on the other you say about not going on a reckless spree, then immediately mention about us having 300k in reserve??
I doubt we have anywhere near 300k in reserve.
I want you to quantify what "Push On" means. Because to me it just sounds like a buzz word - like "Blue Sky Thinking" which sounds nice but actually means naff all (I hear this all the time in work from middle management types).
We continue to live within our means, pay what we can afford, and do everything we possibly can off the field to keep the club moving forward within its means. That is how we 'push on' but it will not result in overnight success. Our support should learn from the mistakes of old, there can never be a 'Boom or Bust' mentality to this club ever again. We return to that way of thinking and this club won't last very long.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2017 14:55:43 GMT
Thought the reserve was £100k? That was the figure mentioned at the CFU meeting?
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Post by Rio Doherty on Feb 1, 2017 16:00:31 GMT
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