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Post by dc2cfc on Jun 28, 2018 12:23:29 GMT
Having just seen on the Chronicle that the Liverpool game is close to a ‘Sell Out’ of 4500..
I’ve seen that the max capacity is 5400 ?
I understand there is safety regulations etc etc, ie Wrexham game (sectioning off areas)
But 900 is a big decrease ?
Does anyone know more information about this as say for instance we have a big game next season with Stockport or Hereford potentially ? Or dare I say a big FA Cup tie (Based on we don’t play Alrincham in the qualifying rounds !) We could be losing out ...
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Post by nicksonmatt on Jun 28, 2018 12:35:13 GMT
I think I'm right that it was 5400 when the South Stand was standing before Mr Vaughan moved it to seats to charge away fans more.
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Post by Charfield Blue on Jun 28, 2018 12:41:03 GMT
I know that you have to knock a certain amount off the seating capacity because we do to assign seat numbers. Another good reason to set up decent online ticketing where you can choose your seat.
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Post by Al on Jun 28, 2018 12:43:21 GMT
I think I'm right that it was 5400 when the South Stand was standing before Mr Vaughan moved it to seats to charge away fans more. No, it was approx. 5,500 when the South Stand was changed to Seating.
Before then we had an absolute maximum capable capacity of 6,000 give or take a handful.
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Post by dmcnally on Jun 28, 2018 12:47:58 GMT
We had over 5,000 against Northwich a few years ago and nothing has changed in the ground since then. It’s all Safety Advisory Group bollocks in my opinion.
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Post by Hannibal on Jun 28, 2018 12:58:56 GMT
We had over 5,000 against Northwich a few years ago and nothing has changed in the ground since then. It’s all Safety Advisory Group bollocks in my opinion. Correct!
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Post by daz on Jun 28, 2018 13:34:42 GMT
Question for the SAG, why do you regularly reduce the deva stadium capacity by nearly 1,000 for big matches ? What is the justification for this?
Given the deva stadium complies to the Taylor report being one of the first stadiums in the UK to apply to that, do you think your actions are completely over the top?
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Post by Al on Jun 28, 2018 13:50:23 GMT
Question for the SAG, why do you regularly reduce the deva stadium capacity by nearly 1,000 for big matches ? What is the justification for this? Given the deva stadium complies to the Taylor report being one of the first stadiums in the UK to apply to that, do you think your actions are completely over the top? You won't get an answer from them by posting on DC sorry.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jun 28, 2018 14:38:32 GMT
I suspect if our all ticket matches strictly enforced allocated seating then the allowed capacity would be close to maximum. As it is, there is no seat allocation normally, so the maximum is reduced so to prevent overcrowding in certain areas of the ground.
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Post by Imperial on Jun 28, 2018 14:55:36 GMT
Why don’t we allocate seating?
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Post by superman on Jun 28, 2018 15:01:09 GMT
Always think the capacity reduction is a bit of an overkill. You would think that by allocating in pairs of blocks e.g. east stand blocks A and B with a couple of stewards at tunnel from turnstiles and on steps to direct fans would be adequate to control. Mind you you always get a few clowns who can't follow simple instructions and cause issues by wishing to sit anywhere they choose.
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Post by dmcnally on Jun 28, 2018 15:20:55 GMT
Maybe some of the £1m can be used on a ticket site like Liverpool’s? www.liverpoolfc.com/tickets/tickets-availabilityCould also look into returning the south stand to standing and selling off the seats, since we won’t be seeing any boxing at the ground any time soon... that would add a few hundred to the capacity.
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Post by citylad on Jun 28, 2018 16:10:06 GMT
Liverpool were given 1,118 tickets which presumably is just for the south stand. Then another 357 tickets were allocated and the club announced that only liverpool fans would be in the west stand!?
So just under 1,500 tickets for half the ground. Madness!
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Post by luckyblue on Jun 28, 2018 20:18:47 GMT
Last time I heard the official capacity was 4810.
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Post by bluejay on Jun 28, 2018 20:38:19 GMT
No reason for seats in the away end. If it's a small away following we keep it closed anyway. It's not increasing revenue but on this occasion has hit it quite hard.
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Post by Hannibal on Jun 28, 2018 20:44:37 GMT
Question for the SAG, why do you regularly reduce the deva stadium capacity by nearly 1,000 for big matches ? What is the justification for this? Given the deva stadium complies to the Taylor report being one of the first stadiums in the UK to apply to that, do you think your actions are completely over the top? Because they can and they don't give a fcuk about Chester FC.
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Post by avfo on Jun 28, 2018 20:45:57 GMT
Liverpool were given 1,118 tickets which presumably is just for the south stand. Then another 357 tickets were allocated and the club announced that only liverpool fans would be in the west stand!?
So just under 1,500 tickets for half the ground. Madness! Probably not as bad as that. From CFC OWS - 'Following Liverpool’s increase in allocation, we would like to assure Chester fans that have already purchased tickets for the Swettenham Chemists Community (West) Stand that they will not be affected – and their seat is secure in the West Stand for this game'.
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Post by agl on Jun 28, 2018 20:50:34 GMT
Anyone know the capacity on the Harry Mac?
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Post by cfcforme on Jun 28, 2018 21:36:27 GMT
Anyone know who is on the SAG?
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Post by CH3STER on Jun 28, 2018 22:44:12 GMT
The stadium obviously needs some money pumping into it to increase the sell out figure. Can’t keep dropping or we’ll end up with 3000 sell outs and miss out on decent paydays in the future. This should be a priority for the board, we’ve missed out on 1000 paying fans on the 7th because we’ve let it slide over the years. If the work required is extensive the board need to be transparent with the fanbase
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Post by Bristol Blue on Jun 29, 2018 6:57:21 GMT
Anyone know who is on the SAG? Normally representatives from the council and the various emergency services i believe. SAGs were recommended as a result of Hillsborough i believe Bit of info here on whoa and what they are: SAGs
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Post by agl on Jun 29, 2018 7:45:38 GMT
The stadium obviously needs some money pumping into it to increase the sell out figure. Can’t keep dropping or we’ll end up with 3000 sell outs and miss out on decent paydays in the future. This should be a priority for the board, we’ve missed out on 1000 paying fans on the 7th because we’ve let it slide over the years. If the work required is extensive the board need to be transparent with the fanbase I've said this time and time again. We have supposedly a stadium with at least 5000 capacity but never seem to be able to accommodate anywhere near that. It's financial suicide, especially if we can attract prestigious friendly matches. I'm sure there are plenty of issues, but irks me that we are constantly being asked for cash yet this obvious revenue stream is apparently overlooked. Is it worth ripping out seats in the away end and restoring to terracing? Probably also cheaper to maintain.
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Post by silverblue on Jun 29, 2018 8:29:48 GMT
Whilst i agree with most of this topic and would also like a breakdown of where capacity is lost, i do not think you are going about it the correct way. We will never get a concise answer on DC. The way to go about this is to bring up at a cfu meeting. You will probably not get an answer immediatly but the board should be able to provide one for the following meeting. Done this way we will all know why the club is potentially losing money. What we need are exact numbers, not just "well it's to do with H&S"
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Post by citylad on Jun 29, 2018 11:01:05 GMT
Liverpool were given 1,118 tickets which presumably is just for the south stand. Then another 357 tickets were allocated and the club announced that only liverpool fans would be in the west stand!?
So just under 1,500 tickets for half the ground. Madness! Probably not as bad as that. From CFC OWS - 'Following Liverpool’s increase in allocation, we would like to assure Chester fans that have already purchased tickets for the Swettenham Chemists Community (West) Stand that they will not be affected – and their seat is secure in the West Stand for this game'.
oh right cheers, didnt realise that.
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Post by iandychesterfc on Jun 29, 2018 11:58:06 GMT
The stadium obviously needs some money pumping into it to increase the sell out figure. Can’t keep dropping or we’ll end up with 3000 sell outs and miss out on decent paydays in the future. This should be a priority for the board, we’ve missed out on 1000 paying fans on the 7th because we’ve let it slide over the years. If the work required is extensive the board need to be transparent with the fanbase I've said this time and time again. We have supposedly a stadium with at least 5000 capacity but never seem to be able to accommodate anywhere near that. It's financial suicide, especially if we can attract prestigious friendly matches. I'm sure there are plenty of issues, but irks me that we are constantly being asked for cash yet this obvious revenue stream is apparently overlooked. Is it worth ripping out seats in the away end and restoring to terracing? Probably also cheaper to maintain. Stockport would bring a shed load, we've over sold to them in the past obviously with the FA Cup
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Post by bluejay on Jun 29, 2018 18:39:28 GMT
This must be a priority for infrastructure investment then. Just said on the other thread I couldn't see many easy wins but this is potentially big. Especially if we finally get a decent cup run...
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Post by trev on Jun 29, 2018 19:26:05 GMT
As far as I understood it the capacity of the ground (5400) is reduced by around 20% for segregation and due to the fact that tickets are sold for seating on an “unallocated “basis. If this Taylor Report compliant stadium has satisfactory infrastructure which meets all known safety standards (including stewarding, audible annoy, exit gates, safety barriers, fire safety, CCTV etc) please could someone explain why the Club cannot sell "Allocated” seating" and increase capacity?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 19:43:36 GMT
As far as I understood it the capacity of the ground (5400) is reduced by around 20% for segregation and due to the fact that tickets are sold for seating on an “unallocated “basis. If this Taylor Report compliant stadium has satisfactory infrastructure which meets all known safety standards (including stewarding, audible annoy, exit gates, safety barriers, fire safety, CCTV etc) please could someone explain why the Club cannot sell "Allocated” seating" and increase capacity? Always assumed the reason we would sell "unallocated seats" was due to not having the facility/technology to do this and/or the manpower. Maybe when the new e-ticket system is introduced it'll be easier to do.
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Post by trev on Jun 29, 2018 20:04:39 GMT
As far as I understood it the capacity of the ground (5400) is reduced by around 20% for segregation and due to the fact that tickets are sold for seating on an “unallocated “basis. If this Taylor Report compliant stadium has satisfactory infrastructure which meets all known safety standards (including stewarding, audible annoy, exit gates, safety barriers, fire safety, CCTV etc) please could someone explain why the Club cannot sell "Allocated” seating" and increase capacity? Always assumed the reason we would sell "unallocated seats" was due to not having the facility/technology to do this and/or the manpower. Maybe when the new e-ticket system is introduced it'll be easier to do. Must admit Joey I thought it would be pretty straightforward to print a ticket with a corresponding seat number on it ! I am sure football Clubs managed it back in the 1970s. But If it is simply an IT technical problem then surely this should be a priority for use of Mr Murphy’s investment given the loss of revenue . On the other hand if the Club are being made to sell unallocated seating due to safety reasons then such matters clearly need to be addressed as an urgent priority. Or alternatively, is it that the local SAG is simply unreasonable and so risk averse that no end of improvements would satisfy its draconian standards ?
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Post by thetheremin on Jun 30, 2018 12:50:45 GMT
IIRC the original capacity of the stadium was approx
East: 2100 West: 1300 Terraces: 1300 each
Converting one terrace to seating knocked 500 off the capacity
I wouldn’t be surprised if SAG had limited the Harry Mac capacity and reduced seating capacity for segregation purposes. It’s obviously a complete joke
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