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Post by Operation Eccleston on Aug 31, 2018 18:53:09 GMT
I completely fail to understand the logic of a bill to Chester FC. It is absolutely nothing to do with Chester. In a free and democratic society it is the fault only of the individuals involved, and it is up to the home club to identify and prosecute those individuals. If their CCTV and stewarding isn’t up to the task what has that got to do with Chester? I’m absolutely sick of this scapegoating of clubs in a free society. Does that mean I can buy a Wrexham shirt and cause havoc at an away match and it’s all wrexham’s fault? If someone borrows their mum’s car and gets caught for speeding, is it all mum’s fault? Sadly a number of your supporters have a track record for breaking seats etc , they need identifying and banning for life. Doo da, doo da |
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Post by 54321 on Aug 31, 2018 18:54:33 GMT
Don't bite to cornerflag that's what he wants ignore him and he will go away.
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Post by Anders on Aug 31, 2018 19:47:23 GMT
Surprising news, I didn’t particularly rush out last week as had a bit of a wait for a train and didn’t come across anything.
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Post by thestanchion on Aug 31, 2018 21:32:05 GMT
Surely any claim for reparations would have to have some evidence to support it.
If this went to the small claims court I think it would be thrown out. What would stop a Telford or a Truro City fan coming in the away end and causing damage. I agree that that is unlikely, and that the club should pay for repairs. But as Rcb says Telford are responsible for stadium security.
Burberry has traditionally been expensive.
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Post by Sealand Road Veteran on Aug 31, 2018 21:53:57 GMT
Same As Anders said we didn't rush out either and saw no damage be interesting to know what the damage was
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Post by hackett on Aug 31, 2018 23:18:13 GMT
I completely fail to understand the logic of a bill to Chester FC. It is absolutely nothing to do with Chester. In a free and democratic society it is the fault only of the individuals involved, and it is up to the home club to identify and prosecute those individuals. If their CCTV and stewarding isn’t up to the task what has that got to do with Chester? I’m absolutely sick of this scapegoating of clubs in a free society. Does that mean I can buy a Wrexham shirt and cause havoc at an away match and it’s all wrexham’s fault? If someone borrows their mum’s car and gets caught for speeding, is it all mum’s fault? Sadly a number of your supporters have a track record for breaking seats etc , they need identifying and banning for life. |
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Post by MPW on Aug 31, 2018 23:24:44 GMT
I certainly didn’t see anything damaged there, but I do distinctly remember several young lads/scallies brushing past me to get into the ground as all Chester fans were leaving, which I thought was odd at the time. 🤔
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Post by eyeswideopen on Sept 1, 2018 5:26:19 GMT
I completely fail to understand the logic of a bill to Chester FC. It is absolutely nothing to do with Chester. In a free and democratic society it is the fault only of the individuals involved, and it is up to the home club to identify and prosecute those individuals. If their CCTV and stewarding isn’t up to the task what has that got to do with Chester? I’m absolutely sick of this scapegoating of clubs in a free society. Does that mean I can buy a Wrexham shirt and cause havoc at an away match and it’s all wrexham’s fault? If someone borrows their mum’s car and gets caught for speeding, is it all mum’s fault? Disagree, its everything to do with OUR club. They were OUR fans, doing something they probably thought (wrongly) was in our name. Free society isn't just about individual responsibility it is also about collective responsibility, or at least it should be. Bearing in mind the damage that occurred at the Swansway the other week by a torrential downpour was attributed to an act of God, with your thought process maybe we should be sending the bill to the local churches/mosques/synagogues then as it was those worshippers Deities they associate themselves with who caused the damage. |
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Post by wil on Sept 1, 2018 7:56:36 GMT
I certainly didn’t see anything damaged there, but I do distinctly remember several young lads/scallies brushing past me to get into the ground as all Chester fans were leaving, which I thought was odd at the time. 🤔 Ha ha, yeah that'll be what's happened. 🤔 |
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Post by superman on Sept 1, 2018 8:25:51 GMT
Disagree, its everything to do with OUR club. They were OUR fans, doing something they probably thought (wrongly) was in our name. Free society isn't just about individual responsibility it is also about collective responsibility, or at least it should be. Bearing in mind the damage that occurred at the Swansway the other week by a torrential downpour was attributed to an act of God, with your thought process maybe we should be sending the bill to the local churches/mosques/synagogues then as it was those worshippers Deities they associwate themselves with who caused the damage. Good idea, perhaps you should forward this to the fund raising group for potential action. Suspect they will have as much success getting redress from the religious community as from the idiots who did the damage at Telford, but you never know for He is reputed to move in mysterious ways! Think I will move on in a mysterious way now and hope for divine intervention this afternoon at Guiseley with a last minute winning penalty awarded to the blues after a bolt of lightening strikes Mahon. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 9:30:04 GMT
Surprising news, I didn’t particularly rush out last week as had a bit of a wait for a train and didn’t come across anything. Tend to agree We were in the seats so had to wait until the players had left the field to transfer to the standing area + the eternity it took to help my 83 year old mum down then up the steps + a visit to the loo, it was probably about 10 minutes after the final whistle before we actually left the ground and, not surprisingly, it was pretty quiet. So whatever happened, may well have been either elsewhere or some time later. Still no excuse, though, for the behaviour of knuckle dragging idiots whoever they are. |
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 1, 2018 10:18:37 GMT
Before the match?!
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Post by Imperial on Sept 1, 2018 12:38:08 GMT
Well what was it then? Nobody, me included, seems to have noticed it which you’d think people would have if it’s going to be a considerable cost to repair.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 12:39:14 GMT
Hells bells My original assessment of knuckle draggers was perhaps too generous. Now thinking of single cell organisms oozing from the primaeval swamp! |
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Post by eltonblues on Sept 1, 2018 18:10:44 GMT
I assume that lad getting chased by the stewards Benny Hill style was one of the culprits?
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Post by btb on Sept 1, 2018 18:18:32 GMT
So this big, substantial damage done before the game still wasn’t noticed by anybody? The whole thing completely stinks in my opinion. |
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Post by rcb on Sept 1, 2018 18:31:52 GMT
Buy a broken toilet and an old opposition shirt from eBay. Hey presto, instant fundraising initiative!
Seriously, such damage, if true and can be proved, is criminal damage and is adequately covered under English Law. Fleecing the opposition club is total nonsense.
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Post by btb on Sept 1, 2018 18:37:38 GMT
Buy a broken toilet and an old opposition shirt from eBay. Hey presto, instant fundraising initiative! Seriously, such damage, if true and can be proved, is criminal damage and is adequately covered under English Law. Fleecing the opposition club is total nonsense. Also, let’s keep it real. The headlines made out half the ground had been smashed up. Whilst it’s a completely senseless act by a knuckle dragger in a following of 700 it is a vast minority that is guilty of this act. |
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 1, 2018 19:05:38 GMT
So this big, substantial damage done before the game still wasn’t noticed by anybody? The whole thing completely stinks in my opinion. Exactly what I was thinking. Can't be that bad. |
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Post by 1967blue Chester Lads on Sept 1, 2018 19:40:11 GMT
So this big, substantial damage done before the game still wasn’t noticed by anybody? The whole thing completely stinks in my opinion. Exactly what I was thinking. Can't be that bad. Well Banksy I was there you weren't and I didn't see any damage. Funny how most people on here didn't see any damage but people you spoke to did. I left at end of game as previously said and didn't see any broken urinals or basins. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 20:04:46 GMT
Suspect package found outside Wrexhams ground today, but turned out to be a false alarm. Good job. Chester fans would have took the rap for it
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Post by Lobster on Sept 1, 2018 20:11:22 GMT
Why do people deny it even when a respected director has confirmed it? Just because you in particular didn’t see it, it can’t have happened? Same on the match thread today with people denying or playing down suggestions of racist abuse even when they weren’t there and didn’t hear it. It all comes across as a bit defensive and makes us look very touchy.
Sadly, we do have some prats who support us. No point pretending we don’t.
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Post by btb on Sept 1, 2018 20:22:05 GMT
Why do people deny it even when a respected director has confirmed it? Just because you in particular didn’t see it, it can’t have happened? Same on the match thread today with people denying or playing down suggestions of racist abuse even when they weren’t there and didn’t hear it. It all comes across as a bit defensive and makes us look very touchy. Sadly, we do have some prats who support us. No point pretending we don’t. Never said it didn’t happen. Questioned the magnitude of it. We Chester supporters get a bad rep at times. By my own admittance I wasn’t on top form at Telford but I certainly wasn’t smashing anything up and didn’t see any damage to anything. I’ve seen and heard of damage to Halifax, Colwyn Bay and Wrexham over the years and it’s always been common knowledge. There’s obviously been some sort of damage but it’s more than likely been one idiot. Make it known that that was case. Many people on here weren’t happy with fellow fans behaviour at Telford. Don’t add petrol to the fire. There is far too few of us as it is without pitting supporters against each other. That’s just my humble opinion. I love and respect Jeff more than most but let’s say this as it is. |
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Post by Lobster on Sept 1, 2018 20:39:36 GMT
Why do people deny it even when a respected director has confirmed it? Just because you in particular didn’t see it, it can’t have happened? Same on the match thread today with people denying or playing down suggestions of racist abuse even when they weren’t there and didn’t hear it. It all comes across as a bit defensive and makes us look very touchy. Sadly, we do have some prats who support us. No point pretending we don’t. Never said it didn’t happen. Questioned the magnitude of it. We Chester supporters get a bad rep at times. By my own admittance I wasn’t on top form at Telford but I certainly wasn’t smashing anything up and didn’t see any damage to anything. I’ve seen and heard of damage to Halifax, Colwyn Bay and Wrexham over the years and it’s always been common knowledge. There’s obviously been some sort of damage but it’s more than likely been one idiot. Make it known that that was case. Many people on here weren’t happy with fellow fans behaviour at Telford. Don’t add petrol to the fire. There is far too few of us as it is without pitting supporters against each other. That’s just my humble opinion. I love and respect Jeff more than most but let’s say this as it is. I agree we should keep it in perspective. Just a handful of idiots. Just seems to me that both clubs have agree it happened, and I don't think they would do that if there wasn't evidence. |
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Post by devablue on Sept 1, 2018 23:21:22 GMT
Not saying it's okay, but 535 Chester fans were in the away end. Not 100% sure of the prices, but say an average of £12 tickets would give 535x12= £6,420 profit. Much more away fans than they'd usually get. So the extra money could be put forward to the damage (which still hasn't been clarified to what the damage was). I presume it's toilets though..
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Post by Charfield Blue on Sept 2, 2018 0:01:29 GMT
The big mystery about last week is, bearing in mind many of our inebriated fans were so busy spending the 90 minutes abusing stewards, fellow fans, our own players, own managers, opposition players and local residents (after the match), how anybody had the time to take part in mindless vandalism inside the ground. The mind boggles... I must admit, I found the lads running (staggering) from side to side looking to get on the pitch when they thought our goal hadn't been given, only to realise about 60 seconds after everyone else in the ground that it had been given were highly amusing. Just wish they were shown a video of themselves. Having said that, they'd probably be impressed. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 17:14:08 GMT
Don't bite to cornerflag that's what he wants ignore him and he will go away. [b Really ? good luck with that then . By the way I cant recall the last time our supporters damaged another teams ground but they did damage the Racecourse last time you were there . As you say idiots are everywhere . |
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Post by trev on Sept 9, 2018 13:25:14 GMT
The gift that keeps on giving Your post makes no sense. Please elaborate. |
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Post by Matt on Sept 9, 2018 15:44:40 GMT
The gift that keeps on giving Your post makes no sense. Please elaborate. Just another middle aged goat that has nothing better to do. Probably one of the coin throwers at Solihull. |
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