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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Sept 7, 2018 9:01:01 GMT
para 6.1 in the election policy:
Campaigning under the auspices of the Society will be restricted to the statements submitted by the candidates and to any hustings organised by the Society.
There will be no hustings and you should be aware that any self promotion on social media will result in your disqualification as a candidate for the board.
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Post by bitbbh on Sept 7, 2018 9:02:39 GMT
PE You know the club car park, is there any chance i can have a spare set of keys for the gate?
Rest of the board
Why?
PE
I could generate some extra revenue for the club from a dissenfranchised group. After all we are supposed to be community hub.
Rest of board
Sounds good, which community group is it?
PE
Doggers after dark.
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Post by jimmy on Sept 7, 2018 9:10:30 GMT
I remember PC Evans as a thoroughly unpleasant individual. I for one will vote against him at the agm.
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Post by Deva Chanter on Sept 7, 2018 10:09:36 GMT
para 6.1 in the election policy: Campaigning under the auspices of the Society will be restricted to the statements submitted by the candidates and to any hustings organised by the Society. There will be no hustings and you should be aware that any self promotion on social media will result in your disqualification as a candidate for the board. This is an absolutely ludicrous rule to be fair. I may be wrong, but I think this was adopted reactively following the election a few years ago where, correct me if I'm wrong, people from the club were using their platform to attack prospective candidates. That was clearly out of order but this rule is frankly absurd. Imagine any other election whereby the ONLY information you get about a candidate (unless you already know of them) is a 400 word diatribe in which they can write pretty much whatever they want, true or not. There should at the very least be a hustings in which prospective candidates can be asked questions by members and outline their vision for the football club. It is part of any healthy democracy to allow this. I note the rule does allude to "hustings organised by the Society" as being permissible - this should be a de facto part of the election.
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Post by Lobster on Sept 7, 2018 10:38:07 GMT
Sorry to sound dim, but if you vote by proxy and there is a show of hands on the night, how do they know those people haven’t already voted by proxy? In other words, should I fill this form AND show my support/opposition to the candidates on the night?
I’m a bit clueless sorry, haven’t been to an AGM before.
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Post by jb on Sept 7, 2018 10:38:10 GMT
All jokes aside the Social Media extracts raise concerns as to whether this individual behaved like this when a serving officer. Bigoted views and looking to chase after women all the time is not something a serving officer should be doing.
They are to protect the vulnerable and show objectivity and this social media behaviour is anything but. Deeply worrying stuff!
Hopefully this can be brought to the Chronicle’s attention.
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Post by Lobster on Sept 7, 2018 10:43:26 GMT
All jokes aside the Social Media extracts raise concerns as to whether this individual behaved like this when a serving officer. Bigoted views and looking to chase after women all the time is not something a serving officer should be doing. They are to protect the vulnerable and show objectivity and this social media behaviour is anything but. Deeply worrying stuff! Hopefully this can be brought to the Chronicle’s attention. Yes, I was thinking the same. Worrying (if not entirely surprising) that someone with such inheritly bigoted views was able to hold a senior position as a police officer for decades.
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Post by Harry Lime on Sept 7, 2018 11:28:18 GMT
All jokes aside the Social Media extracts raise concerns as to whether this individual behaved like this when a serving officer. Bigoted views and looking to chase after women all the time is not something a serving officer should be doing. They are to protect the vulnerable and show objectivity and this social media behaviour is anything but. Deeply worrying stuff! Hopefully this can be brought to the Chronicle’s attention. Yes, I was thinking the same. Worrying (if not entirely surprising) that someone with such inheritly bigoted views was able to hold a senior position as a police officer for decades. Probably came with the territory in the 70s 80s. Shows how far society has moved on. Mainly!
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Post by kjw on Sept 7, 2018 15:55:18 GMT
As a supporter of over 50 years i have known many vile horrible people that have attached themselves to our club,but Evans would without a shadow of a doubt be the worst,he is a VILE individual,i am actually surprised he is back in the country,last i had heard of him he was living in Spain and spending his time in Benidorm,whatever we need to do we need to do it,to ensure this lowlife gets nowhere near our club
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Post by uptheseals on Sept 7, 2018 16:00:29 GMT
Seen on Facebook he's threatening fans asking to give details for his solicitors
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Sept 7, 2018 16:41:24 GMT
Seen on Facebook he's threatening fans asking to give details for his solicitors Haha he’s lost the plot
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Post by billyw on Sept 7, 2018 17:02:16 GMT
Seen on Facebook he's threatening fans asking to give details for his solicitors Haha he’s lost the plot Arent you a bit worried about being sued for libel after calling him a bent copper. I hope you can back that allegation up.
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Sept 7, 2018 17:09:36 GMT
Arent you a bit worried about being sued for libel after calling him a bent copper. He can try and sue Cestrian1987 all he wants, I’m skint.
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Post by Al on Sept 7, 2018 17:23:18 GMT
Arent you a bit worried about being sued for libel after calling him a bent copper. He can try and sue Cestrian1987 all he wants, I’m skint. You think that matters? He can still sue you
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Sept 7, 2018 17:24:31 GMT
He can try and sue Cestrian1987 all he wants, I’m skint. You think that matters? He can still sue you For calling someone a gay copper? Sue all he likes couldn’t give a shit.
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Post by billyw on Sept 7, 2018 17:31:03 GMT
You think that matters? He can still sue you For calling someone a gay copper? Sue all he likes couldn’t give a shit. Ah, I see what you did there,changing the definition of bent - now you can be accused of homophobia.
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Post by kjw on Sept 7, 2018 17:33:23 GMT
As a follow on to my post i fully understand that we do actually have to get the right people to serve on the board,the problem being it is a poisoned chalice,if you do the best job you can possibly do sadly it will go unnoticed,people pay money to watch a hopefully successful club,they don't pay money to hear about a great administrator,i was involved myself for many years and loved it,but it wears you down,especially when you have a family and a job,we must though ensure the right people are elected to the board,we have had so many (as my dear late mum used to say)wrong uns we can't allow another to be elected to the board
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Post by soulseal on Sept 7, 2018 17:42:48 GMT
Proxy vote form filled in and waiting for a stamp.
Somehow a simple cross against this character doesn’t seem enough, but ballot paper was not spoiled.
I feel sorry for the majority of decent police that this character is perpetuating the 70s police stereotype.
Thank god for Devachat highlighting this.
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Sept 7, 2018 17:53:31 GMT
For calling someone a gay copper? Sue all he likes couldn’t give a shit. Ah, I see what you did there,changing the definition of bent - now you can be accused of homophobia. Really don’t care. That bully doesn’t scare me. Not anymore. I’m not a 17 year old kid now.
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Post by kjw on Sept 7, 2018 18:15:10 GMT
I don't think for one second the amount of money it costs a person to sue for slander that will ever happen,the amount of money he would receive is minimal,it is just a threat that usually the person who is worried about their reputation just throws around.
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Post by Imperial on Sept 7, 2018 19:00:31 GMT
For calling someone a gay copper? Sue all he likes couldn’t give a shit. Ah, I see what you did there,changing the definition of bent - now you can be accused of homophobia. The way you keep going on, you sound as though you want him to. You a mate of this Evans or something?
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Post by Captain Duff on Sept 7, 2018 19:02:09 GMT
para 6.1 in the election policy: Campaigning under the auspices of the Society will be restricted to the statements submitted by the candidates and to any hustings organised by the Society. There will be no hustings and you should be aware that any self promotion on social media will result in your disqualification as a candidate for the board. This is an absolutely ludicrous rule to be fair. I may be wrong, but I think this was adopted reactively following the election a few years ago where, correct me if I'm wrong, people from the club were using their platform to attack prospective candidates. That was clearly out of order but this rule is frankly absurd. Imagine any other election whereby the ONLY information you get about a candidate (unless you already know of them) is a 400 word diatribe in which they can write pretty much whatever they want, true or not. There should at the very least be a hustings in which prospective candidates can be asked questions by members and outline their vision for the football club. It is part of any healthy democracy to allow this. I note the rule does allude to "hustings organised by the Society" as being permissible - this should be a de facto part of the election. Yes, you are right. It was after the kerfuffle of having what amounted to a couple of rival slates for a board election and that was considered bad form, although given some of the non-slate people that ended up on the board in the time that followed I'm not convinced it was a key issue. The other point about this rule is that I protested it at the time and emailed the club secretary with my concerns before it was adopted by the board. Marion stated that I was the only person to have mentioned it (I probably would also have mentioned it on DC1, but can't remember and haven't got time to look), and I had no reason to doubt her. But while my day job working for a trade union does give me certain extreme anorak qualities when it comes to analysing rules and constitutions that I don't expect others to share, it does highlight the importance of not just nodding anything through.
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Sept 7, 2018 19:02:24 GMT
Ah, I see what you did there,changing the definition of bent - now you can be accused of homophobia. The way you keep going on, you sound as though you want him to. You a mate of this Evans or something? Thought this
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Post by kjw on Sept 7, 2018 19:04:56 GMT
No to be fair Evans has no mates
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Post by billyw on Sept 7, 2018 19:18:28 GMT
Ah, I see what you did there,changing the definition of bent - now you can be accused of homophobia. The way you keep going on, you sound as though you want him to. You a mate of this Evans or something? Like most Chester supporters, never had contact with the man and wouldn't know him if I fell over him. I just pointed out that when people make defammotory accusations in print, e.g. Calling someone a bent copper, they must be able to back the accusation up or be prepared to be sued for libel. Not too difficult to understand, I'd have thought.
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Post by blue4life on Sept 7, 2018 19:38:29 GMT
The way you keep going on, you sound as though you want him to. You a mate of this Evans or something? Like most Chester supporters, never had contact with the man and wouldn't know him if I fell over him. I just pointed out that when people make defammotory accusations in print, e.g. Calling someone a bent copper, they must be able to back the accusation up or be prepared to be sued for libel. Not too difficult to understand, I'd have thought. Take a day off Billy.
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Post by kjw on Sept 7, 2018 19:54:03 GMT
Well all i can say if you were a supporter when PC Evans was involved with the club in his so called official capacity you wouldn't be trying in your sad way to wind up a fellow supporter
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Post by bitbbh on Sept 7, 2018 19:57:11 GMT
I see his twitter account has had a spring clean.
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Post by billyw on Sept 7, 2018 20:01:22 GMT
Well all i can say if you were a supporter when PC Evans was involved with the club in his so called official capacity you wouldn't be trying in your sad way to wind up a fellow supporter I've been a supporter for over 60 years sunshine, just never had problems with the Police.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 20:10:20 GMT
Paul wants to sniff her wet knickers Paul, you can delete your Twitter, but this lives forever :-)
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