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Post by Si on Nov 18, 2018 1:07:13 GMT
Not shocking, just average. Plenty of endeavour but a lack of creativity and quality in the final third. If we were going to score it was going to come through Mooney, but they crowded him out. Thought Dawson looks a decent player but otherwise all a bit plodding I'm afraid. Didn't see them scoring after we've got on top, but we paid the penalty for not converting plenty of possession. Tidy set up there and a friendly welcome. York was average, that today was shocking, best summed up by Bazza as we left the ground when he said we never got going. Mahon shouldn't be anywhere near the starting XI based on his last 2 or 3 showings. Its traditional as the festive season approaches that we go on a lengthy winless run. We get it....you don't like Mahon. Let's get Pritchard there instead 🙄
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Post by Anders on Nov 18, 2018 1:20:42 GMT
York was average, that today was shocking, best summed up by Bazza as we left the ground when he said we never got going. Mahon shouldn't be anywhere near the starting XI based on his last 2 or 3 showings. Its traditional as the festive season approaches that we go on a lengthy winless run. We get it....you don't like Mahon. Let's get Pritchard there instead 🙄 Yeah, noticed a strange mentality from one or two towards him who seem to actively relish sticking the boot in.
Was no better or worse than anyone.
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Post by durdy on Nov 18, 2018 8:34:13 GMT
Dont panic All will be well when George Green is back in the famous blue and white stripes😉
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Post by Hannibal on Nov 18, 2018 10:22:59 GMT
York was average, that today was shocking, best summed up by Bazza as we left the ground when he said we never got going. Mahon shouldn't be anywhere near the starting XI based on his last 2 or 3 showings. Its traditional as the festive season approaches that we go on a lengthy winless run. We get it....you don't like Mahon. Let's get Pritchard there instead 🙄 It's not a matter of whether I like him or not. Yesterday and at York he contributed nothing. He lost the ball in dangerous areas, never put a decent cross in and did his thing of occasionally beating a man, but then lost the ball when he tried to beat him again. The whole team were poor yesterday and could learn a thing or two from Leamington who moved the ball about well, keeping possession (which we never could). Stopforth and Shenton (worldie half way through 2nd half) excepted. Not sure if you are jesting about Pritchard, but he is more direct and has goals in him (when played wide).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2018 11:22:48 GMT
There's really no way of dressing this up, I'm afraid
Poor performance Poor pitch Poor referee
Hoofball from both teams
We were sluggish to the point of being comatose
Am I worried? No, not yet because I can put it down to a bad day at the office and/or fatigue but I think we're getting closer to the point where some sort of stimulus is necessary to revitalise the team - over to the Dynamic Duo - but I guess they know that.
Couple of other observations :
Nice little setup at Leamington with friendly folk - good luck to them as they're punching well above their weight.
Dawson? On yesterday's showing, not for me I'm afraid, no better or worse than what we already have
Overall, disappointing 250 mile round trip but at least Southport next week is a whole lot closer!
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Nov 18, 2018 11:24:52 GMT
Frustrating yesterday. As Anders said it took us about 30 minutes or so to settle into the game on a surface which was rather dry and the grass appeared too long. The bus service from the train station was very helpful and well priced at £2 return. Not a great ground but friendly club with reasonable facilities. Great following perhaps 350-500 +. We always seem to disappoint bigger crowds either at home or away. And yesterday was no exception. Lots said about various individual players on here. We’ve got what we have currently and need to get on with it unless the managers are able to sort something out which looks the ideal scenario. This little run was always going to come after the impressive unbeaten run came to an end. As I mentioned we took around half an hour to get going but did then create some good chances in the later part of the first half which wasn’t a great spectacle. The ref refused to book their number 3 in the first half for what looked like an obvious booking which would have left home with no alternative but to send him off in the second half but there we go. Second half better showing and we have had chances but their keeper had a very good game. That with us spurning chances ie volleying over the bar from inside the six yard when it just needed helping into the net. Numerous little deflections etc all seemed to go against us yesterday. Whilst we were average it was one of those days when we could have still been there now and not scored. Very disappointing, the players looked distraught after the final whistle. It was a game we probably should not have lost. 4 points off top isn’t bad but we could certainly benefit from something else up front if anything can be done. One of those days 🙄
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Post by agl on Nov 18, 2018 14:51:14 GMT
There's really no way of dressing this up, I'm afraid Poor performance Poor pitch Poor referee Hoofball from both teams We were sluggish to the point of being comatose Am I worried? No, not yet because I can put it down to a bad day at the office and/or fatigue but I think we're getting closer to the point where some sort of stimulus is necessary to revitalise the team - over to the Dynamic Duo - but I guess they know that. Couple of other observations : Nice little setup at Leamington with friendly folk - good luck to them as they're punching well above their weight. Dawson? On yesterday's showing, not for me I'm afraid, no better or worse than what we already have Overall, disappointing 250 mile round trip but at least Southport next week is a whole lot closer! I thought we did try to get the ball down and play, in the second half, but they'd done their homework and put two or sometimes three players on Mooney who was the main outlet. Also disagree on Dawson who looked lively and has a good touch.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Nov 18, 2018 16:06:03 GMT
I think Dawson given time may prove to be a decent signing for us. He looked like he has it in him to make something happen. Needs a bit of time to settle into the side and get to know our players etc. It’s a target man type who can bring others into play we desperately need. Mani bless him unfortunately isn’t the answer.
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Post by uptheseals on Nov 18, 2018 18:19:51 GMT
Why are people acting asif it's the end of the world because we lost yesterday ? Need to look at where we are in the league now and look at where we were this time last year... little blimps like this happen to all teams can't win every game can we, We go again and we go stronger Come on city
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Post by Harry Lime on Nov 18, 2018 19:35:37 GMT
It does seem to be a consistent problem for us when we play away from home on a small or bumpy pitch against a direct team. I wonder whether we'd be better changing formation, style of play and team selection for those games.
Our front four all rely on having ball to feet to run at players. However there is little or no opportunity to do that. We don't have a physical option up there.
Dudley doesn't look at his best as a lone striker. Mooney is our main threat but gets closed down and doesn't yet have the ability to find space. Mahon does tend to lose the ball too much in these games. I don't think Dawson is the 10 we need. He looks a tidy mover of the ball, but won't get up to support the striker or run past him. He looks a replacement winger to me. If we lose Mooney or Dudley where do our goals come from? The back four are getting more chances than the strikers.
One option is to play Smalley and Dudley. Then played say Cain Noble instead of Mahon. We could play Roberts behind Stopforth and Noble. Mooney could drift about and make runs past Smalley.
Second option is to play Smalley and Dudley but go more direct. That's what the other teams are doing to us on those pitches.
Third option is keep same formation and team but get Mahon to go outside and win corners or gets crosses in. That way we don't keep losing the ball.
Note - where I've said Smalley it would preferably be a new signing physical type of goal scoring forward.
I think at the moment we are close to being a good side. When it works we can beat anyone. Unfortunately though, it doesn't take much to unbalance us and make us look ordinary.
Maybe the answer is simply a fit Burton and Green. Still think some extra presence up front would help, especially away from home. It makes the game easier to manage.
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Post by glanaber1 on Nov 18, 2018 22:08:30 GMT
Am i missing something here 13 games 11 wins 1 loss and 1 draw I dont see as bad given the injuries etc
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Nov 18, 2018 22:11:32 GMT
Am i missing something here 13 games 11 wins 1 loss and 1 draw I dont see as bad given the injuries etc 2 losses
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Post by Hannibal on Nov 18, 2018 22:13:53 GMT
It does seem to be a consistent problem for us when we play away from home on a small or bumpy pitch against a direct team. I wonder whether we'd be better changing formation, style of play and team selection for those games. Our front four all rely on having ball to feet to run at players. However there is little or no opportunity to do that. We don't have a physical option up there. Dudley doesn't look at his best as a lone striker. Mooney is our main threat but gets closed down and doesn't yet have the ability to find space. Mahon does tend to lose the ball too much in these games. I don't think Dawson is the 10 we need. He looks a tidy mover of the ball, but won't get up to support the striker or run past him. He looks a replacement winger to me. If we lose Mooney or Dudley where do our goals come from? The back four are getting more chances than the strikers. One option is to play Smalley and Dudley. Then played say Cain Noble instead of Mahon. We could play Roberts behind Stopforth and Noble. Mooney could drift about and make runs past Smalley. Second option is to play Smalley and Dudley but go more direct. That's what the other teams are doing to us on those pitches. Third option is keep same formation and team but get Mahon to go outside and win corners or gets crosses in. That way we don't keep losing the ball. Note - where I've said Smalley it would preferably be a new signing physical type of goal scoring forward. I think at the moment we are close to being a good side. When it works we can beat anyone. Unfortunately though, it doesn't take much to unbalance us and make us look ordinary. Maybe the answer is simply a fit Burton and Green. Still think some extra presence up front would help, especially away from home. It makes the game easier to manage. Spot on Harry. That's why I suggested the ineffective Mahon should have been replaced by the only striker on the bench, which was Deane Smalley. That would have tied up one of the two defenders who were closing Mooney down constantly.
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Post by Hannibal on Nov 18, 2018 22:20:15 GMT
Am i missing something here 13 games 11 wins 1 loss and 1 draw I dont see as bad given the injuries etc The last 13 games have actually been P13 W7 D4 L2 F26 A 14 Pts25 Very tidy, but only 1 goal and 1 point from the last 3 which is the worry.
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Post by Lobster on Nov 19, 2018 6:36:12 GMT
In contrast to the last time we were in this league we're not dominating games and creating chances in the last third. We need a predatory striker in the Clare or Wilde ilk. It was a great day out anyway with a huge following at our level. We'll get there eventually but we may need to wait until the investment comes and we're not relying on home gates for income. Until then we're gonna struggle to compete with the likes of Leamington. Fair play to them today, they were really friendly but that bitter they had on tap was rank. South of Birmingham, bitter is a waste of time.
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Post by rcb on Nov 19, 2018 8:54:51 GMT
In contrast to the last time we were in this league we're not dominating games and creating chances in the last third. We need a predatory striker in the Clare or Wilde ilk. It was a great day out anyway with a huge following at our level. We'll get there eventually but we may need to wait until the investment comes and we're not relying on home gates for income. Until then we're gonna struggle to compete with the likes of Leamington. Fair play to them today, they were really friendly but that bitter they had on tap was rank. South of Birmingham, bitter is a waste of time. Nobody makes bad beer, but I agree that there are publicans who have an ability to ruin it quicker than others. Seems you’ve unfortunately visited the wrong places. Hook Norton in Banbury, Oxfordshire well worth a visit. www.hooky.co.uk/
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Post by Matt on Nov 19, 2018 13:00:51 GMT
Just seen the highlights from Leamington. It's the best highlights package I've ever seen. Looks like an edit from a BBC FA Cup Match. Watching back it does have that kind of feel to it which is odd. Any team could have won that game, both teams had chances, Grand volley somehow kept out and the Howson miss was a shocker. A few half chances for Dawson and Mahon but Leamington could have easily scored a couple themselves.
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Post by dmcnally on Nov 19, 2018 13:36:50 GMT
Just seen the highlights from Leamington. It's the best highlights package I've ever seen. Looks like an edit from a BBC FA Cup Match. Watching back it does have that kind of feel to it which is odd. Any team could have won that game, both teams had chances, Grand volley somehow kept out and the Howson miss was a shocker. A few half chances for Dawson and Mahon but Leamington could have easily scored a couple themselves. I’d say missing inside the six yard box is more than half chance and there were more than one chance missed inside there too. Watch this space with the quality of our own highlights 👀
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Post by inthestand on Nov 19, 2018 16:18:21 GMT
its no big panic, teams are latching on now to the way we play, all's required is a few new ideas and touches, and glad to see the team getting freshened up a bit...so long as long as we dont loose the what as been built up.
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Post by Charfield Blue on Nov 19, 2018 16:50:29 GMT
Dudley was crying out for someone alongside him with height and strength. He got zero change out of their centre backs with everything going in the air. I don't understand playing with 2 wingers and a number 10 just behind Dudley if you are not going to win anything in the air. I'd have taken Mahon off, pushed Dawson out to the left and brought Smalley on alongside Dudley. I really think the issue on Saturday was more about the formation than anything else.
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Post by Hannibal on Nov 19, 2018 18:50:43 GMT
Dudley was crying out for someone alongside him with height and strength. He got zero change out of their centre backs with everything going in the air. I don't understand playing with 2 wingers and a number 10 just behind Dudley if you are not going to win anything in the air. I'd have taken Mahon off, pushed Dawson out to the left and brought Smalley on alongside Dudley. I really think the issue on Saturday was more about the formation than anything else. You've read my post then, lol.
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Post by 54321 on Nov 19, 2018 19:33:47 GMT
Does Gaz Roberts having booked for the fifth time against Leamington serve his one match against Southport or as I suspect Darlington
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Post by oldboneze on Nov 20, 2018 7:19:39 GMT
FA website says 1 match ban starting 24/11 (Southport) ending 1/12 (Darlo). Dunno what that means!
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Post by Hannibal on Nov 20, 2018 15:47:50 GMT
I don't think there has been one mention on this thread about the penalty we should have had in the first half. I confess I never saw it either, but if you look at Nick Leek's video on OneFootballForum you will see clearly that there is a handball as their player collects the ball towards himself using his arm. I think Chester's player appealed and Jonno did, but nothing given. Has anyone else seen it?
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Post by Lobster on Nov 20, 2018 15:51:58 GMT
FA website says 1 match ban starting 24/11 (Southport) ending 1/12 (Darlo). Dunno what that means! It’s a confusing way of wording it for sure. I think it means he’s out for Southport but his suspension ends in time for the Darlo match.
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Post by dmcnally on Nov 20, 2018 15:54:57 GMT
I don't think there has been one mention on this thread about the penalty we should have had in the first half. I confess I never saw it either, but if you look at Nick Leek's video on OneFootballForum you will see clearly that there is a handball as their player collects the ball towards himself using his arm. I think Chester's player appealed and Jonno did, but nothing given. Has anyone else seen it? Yes noone appealed as his body was blocking everyones view but it was a clear handball.
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Post by bazza on Nov 20, 2018 15:58:33 GMT
Clear shirt pull on livesey aswel second half clear pen that also not our day onto the next one long way to go still in the mix .
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Post by 54321 on Nov 20, 2018 17:48:17 GMT
Clear shirt pull on livesey aswel second half clear pen that also not our day onto the next one long way to go still in the mix . Also goalkeeper for Leamington made team of the week so like you say just not our day.
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Post by 54321 on Nov 20, 2018 19:40:45 GMT
FA website says 1 match ban starting 24/11 (Southport) ending 1/12 (Darlo). Dunno what that means! It’s a confusing way of wording it for sure. I think it means he’s out for Southport but his suspension ends in time for the Darlo match. Not sure what Gary Roberts was booked for but to miss a F.A vase game or league game against Darlington makes me think maybe take a booking for the team knowing he was due his fifth booking
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Post by dmcnally on Nov 20, 2018 22:32:24 GMT
Leamington have just gone to Alfreton and won 2-1
Stockport's great run of form has ended tonight away to that club in the North East. 3-2
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