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Post by 1967blue Chester Lads on Nov 29, 2018 8:51:28 GMT
After posting on here about Goals soccer centre in the Darlo thread and starting the Crowds thread I went to Goals last night to play my weekly 5 a side football.
The Manager at goals said to me I thought you wanted to get fans into your club.
I do and hopefully someone will speak to you about it soon.
Well you need to sort things out over there she said.
My reply was. ...
What's happened.
She said that she mentioned to a few of the kids who were playing there on Tuesday night why don't you go over the road and watch Chester instead of going to KFC, it's only £3.00 to get in.
She was suprised that 3 of them said yes.
15 mins later they came back and said forget that there charging a fiver to get in.
And off they went.
I won't bother asking again she said.
Now if someone wants to get there arse over to Goals from the club please do.
The club is on its arse and we then charge more money for kids to get in.
Absolute JOKE.
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Nov 29, 2018 8:54:27 GMT
That whole story is made up. Didn’t happen.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 29, 2018 9:34:48 GMT
Even if it is true, all that tells me is the Goals woman gave these kids duff information. How is that the club's fault?
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Post by Anders on Nov 29, 2018 9:34:51 GMT
Both clubs have to agree the prices for cup games and to get a discount for Adults we had to go with Southport's kids prices.
Misguided anger.
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Post by 1967blue Chester Lads on Nov 29, 2018 9:51:36 GMT
Both clubs have to agree the prices for cup games and to get a discount for Adults we had to go with Southport's kids prices. Misguided anger. Nothing to do with misguided anger just facts that did happen and then we wonder why there won't be more than 1500 chester fans there on sat |
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Post by Lobster on Nov 29, 2018 9:55:48 GMT
Even if it is true, all that tells me is the Goals woman gave these kids duff information. How is that the club's fault? Another Tool. How did she know the prices we're more expensive for a Trophy game. Before you put words on here think before you do. Pathetic. No, you think about it. Your story is that someone said admission was £3, when actually it’s £5. That person was mistaken. If I tell you tins of beans are 20p in Aldi, and when you get there it’s 25p, is that Aldi’s fault or is it mine for misinforming you? And would you expect Aldi to let you have them for 20p just because some bloke has told you that’s what they cost? |
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Post by Anders on Nov 29, 2018 10:02:20 GMT
Both clubs have to agree the prices for cup games and to get a discount for Adults we had to go with Southport's kids prices. Misguided anger. Nothing to do with misguided anger just facts that did happen and then we wonder why there won't be more than 1500 chester fans there on sat Penultimate line of your opening post appeared to criticise the club for raising kids prices though. Made the correct call for that game IMO, if we'd ended up charging more than £10 for adults (majority of the crowd) then god knows what the gate would have been. Agreeing prices with other clubs can be difficult. |
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Post by jb on Nov 29, 2018 10:22:21 GMT
They should have been let in for three quid and no more said about it. That's nine quid extra for the club which they wouldn't have had otherwise.
I paid a tenner to watch that shocker of a performance but wouldn't begrudge three potential new fans getting in for a discounted rate.
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Post by Al on Nov 29, 2018 10:29:25 GMT
They should have been let in for three quid and no more said about it. That's nine quid extra for the club which they wouldn't have had otherwise. I paid a tenner to watch that shocker of a performance but wouldn't begrudge three potential new fans getting in for a discounted rate. Sorry but why should they be allowed in for £3 when everyone else in that age bracket has paid a fiver? The error is down to Goals giving out incorrect information. The OP should be asking why Goals have given out the wrong price and potentially put off 3 young lads from coming to a match in future |
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Post by jb on Nov 29, 2018 10:40:07 GMT
They should have been let in for three quid and no more said about it. That's nine quid extra for the club which they wouldn't have had otherwise. I paid a tenner to watch that shocker of a performance but wouldn't begrudge three potential new fans getting in for a discounted rate. Sorry but why should they be allowed in for £3 when everyone else in that age bracket has paid a fiver? The error is down to Goals giving out incorrect information. The OP should be asking why Goals have given out the wrong price and potentially put off 3 young lads from coming to a match in future To attract new fans. If they only had three quid on them then let them in. They may have also appreciated the gesture of goodwill and decided to come to another match. This is meant to be a community club and therefore if they could only afford £3.00 then the club should have shown capacity and leniency towards them. Speculate to accumulate should be the club's ethos going forward. This club is desperate for new fans and getting people in anyway possible should be the prime objective. |
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Post by Lobster on Nov 29, 2018 10:43:37 GMT
As has been said, the price is agreed with both sides.
If they had been let in for £3, you could just as easily get someone complaining “why did they get in for £3 when I had to pay £5?”
It’s a shame, but it’s a non-story.
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Post by 1967blue Chester Lads on Nov 29, 2018 10:50:16 GMT
As has been said, the price is agreed with both sides. If they had been let in for £3, you could just as easily get someone complaining “why did they get in for £3 when I had to pay £5?” It’s a shame, but it’s a non-story. Its a non-story to you. I on the other hand want Chester to progress but until the kids get involved the attendances will keep dropping. If you cared as much as me do something about it instead of coming on here and moaning. |
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Post by Al on Nov 29, 2018 10:51:22 GMT
Sorry but why should they be allowed in for £3 when everyone else in that age bracket has paid a fiver? The error is down to Goals giving out incorrect information. The OP should be asking why Goals have given out the wrong price and potentially put off 3 young lads from coming to a match in future To attract new fans. If they only had three quid on them then let them in. They may have also appreciated the gesture of goodwill and decided to come to another match. This is meant to be a community club and therefore if they could only afford £3.00 then the club should have shown capacity and leniency towards them. Speculate to accumulate should be the club's ethos going forward. This club is desperate for new fans and getting people in anyway possible should be the prime objective. So if someone else turns up on Saturday and they only got £9 on them for admission, should they be let in too? |
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Post by Al on Nov 29, 2018 10:52:45 GMT
As has been said, the price is agreed with both sides. If they had been let in for £3, you could just as easily get someone complaining “why did they get in for £3 when I had to pay £5?” It’s a shame, but it’s a non-story. Its a non-story to you. I on the other hand want Chester to progress but until the kids get involved the attendances will keep dropping. If you cared as much as me do something about it instead of coming on here and moaning. You need to take your own advice.
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Post by bing on Nov 29, 2018 10:54:04 GMT
Sorry but why should they be allowed in for £3 when everyone else in that age bracket has paid a fiver? The error is down to Goals giving out incorrect information. The OP should be asking why Goals have given out the wrong price and potentially put off 3 young lads from coming to a match in future To attract new fans. If they only had three quid on them then let them in. They may have also appreciated the gesture of goodwill and decided to come to another match. This is meant to be a community club and therefore if they could only afford £3.00 then the club should have shown capacity and leniency towards them. Speculate to accumulate should be the club's ethos going forward. This club is desperate for new fans and getting people in anyway possible should be the prime objective. I understand the sentiment, but turning a blind eye to things like this would be open to abuse. It has to be said, the prices for kids is outstanding. The increase on Tuesday wasn't ideal, but certainly within the realms of a KFC meal (I would have thought - I haven't eaten there for about 25 years!) |
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Post by Suomen Sininen on Nov 29, 2018 11:02:08 GMT
As has been said, the price is agreed with both sides. If they had been let in for £3, you could just as easily get someone complaining “why did they get in for £3 when I had to pay £5?” It’s a shame, but it’s a non-story. Its a non-story to you. I on the other hand want Chester to progress but until the kids get involved the attendances will keep dropping. If you cared as much as me do something about it instead of coming on here and moaning. To be fair, despite your post being a tad 'to the point' for some posters it would seem, it's great to see you trying to push the club's profile to local businesses. I see Banksy replied to one of your earlier posts regarding the club's story on the 'Goals' theme. To me, it would be great to hear that the club has entered into negotiations or something similar with Goals - sounds like we should really be tapping into their user base and seeing as they already like football, this is a no brainer. If the club has tried before and failed - try again. There has been much talk about how Maguire poisoned local businesses towards the club, maybe this happened at Goals as well. But we should be really be there with free tickets for kids etc. For what it is worth, I thank you for your endeavours at Goals (sorry to sound patronising) and I'm shocked at some of the replies to your post above from some posters I used to enjoy reading their opinions. We really do over analyse so much at our club and the aggression to fellow supporters is at times unbelievable. |
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Post by Lobster on Nov 29, 2018 11:10:39 GMT
As has been said, the price is agreed with both sides. If they had been let in for £3, you could just as easily get someone complaining “why did they get in for £3 when I had to pay £5?” It’s a shame, but it’s a non-story. Its a non-story to you. I on the other hand want Chester to progress but until the kids get involved the attendances will keep dropping. If you cared as much as me do something about it instead of coming on here and moaning. I don’t disagree with your sentiment, but your tone is one of blame and bitterness. Prices are set for a reason. You can’t expect to go to any event and be able to haggle the admission fee. Also, I don’t see what is gained from taking what is an anecdote from somebody else and splashing it all over here with a title like ‘Chester Doomed’. Have you contacted anyone from the club and given them a chance to put their side of the story across? Apologies if you have, but I just would have thought that should be the first option rather than going straight down the sensationalist approach. |
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Post by 1967blue Chester Lads on Nov 29, 2018 11:25:37 GMT
Its a non-story to you. I on the other hand want Chester to progress but until the kids get involved the attendances will keep dropping. If you cared as much as me do something about it instead of coming on here and moaning. I don’t disagree with your sentiment, but your tone is one of blame and bitterness. Prices are set for a reason. You can’t expect to go to any event and be able to haggle the admission fee. Everone who's commented on this bar one seems to be missing the point. If you'd bother to read my other thread about Goals you'd understand. I asked the manager to ask kids on a sat to try and get them in to the ground after playing football. I told her it's only £3.00 for kids to get in. She at least tried to get kids in which I'm certain it's more than any of you lot have done. By putting the price up to £5.00 has put them off. And I attended on Tues and I didn't realise it was £5.00 for kids as my lad didn't want to go. THE POINT IS...... Kids are the life of this club and until the club see that it will only go downhill. |
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Post by Lobster on Nov 29, 2018 11:32:14 GMT
I don’t disagree with your sentiment, but your tone is one of blame and bitterness. Prices are set for a reason. You can’t expect to go to any event and be able to haggle the admission fee. Everone who's commented on this bar one seems to be missing the point. If you'd bother to read my other thread about Goals you'd understand. I asked the manager to ask kids on a sat to try and get them in to the ground after playing football. I told her it's only £3.00 for kids to get in. She at least tried to get kids in which I'm certain it's more than any of you lot have done. By putting the price up to £5.00 has put them off. And I attended on Tues and I didn't realise it was £5.00 for kids as my lad didn't want to go. THE POINT IS...... Kids are the life of this club and until the club see that it will only go downhill. I’m not having a go at anyone from Goals. You’re trying to turn it into a ‘they’re doing more than you’ argument. But the people manning the turnstiles at the club are giving up their time for the club too. It’s an unfortunate misunderstanding. Once it’s been explained I would’ve thought everyone should be able to move on from it . |
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Post by jb on Nov 29, 2018 11:34:13 GMT
To attract new fans. If they only had three quid on them then let them in. They may have also appreciated the gesture of goodwill and decided to come to another match. This is meant to be a community club and therefore if they could only afford £3.00 then the club should have shown capacity and leniency towards them. Speculate to accumulate should be the club's ethos going forward. This club is desperate for new fans and getting people in anyway possible should be the prime objective. So if someone else turns up on Saturday and they only got £9 on them for admission, should they be let in too? If the person can only afford £9.00 then yes I would let them in. That's the ethos of a community club in my view. |
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Post by norwegianblue on Nov 29, 2018 11:38:40 GMT
So if someone else turns up on Saturday and they only got £9 on them for admission, should they be let in too? If the person can only afford £9.00 then yes I would let them in. That's the ethos of a community club in my view. Try the same approach in your local boozer. Offer a couple of quid less when you get a round in ! I’m sure we will all be interested in how you get on. |
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Post by Suomen Sininen on Nov 29, 2018 11:48:44 GMT
If the person can only afford £9.00 then yes I would let them in. That's the ethos of a community club in my view. Try the same approach in your local boozer. Offer a couple of quid less when you get a round in ! I’m sure we will all be interested in how you get on. Is it a community owned boozer? |
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Post by thestanchion on Nov 29, 2018 11:50:49 GMT
This seems an unfortunate misunderstanding where everyone tried to do the right thing.
1. The OP trying to encourage support via Goals
2. The manager at Goals trying to help.
3. The kids for considering and good job they didn't get in as it was so poor.
4. The club. Turnstile operators can not be encouraged to deviate from stipulated entry fees.
The best solution might have been if the kids had gone to the office and explained
Perhaps a poster in Goals with upcoming fixtures and admission prices would avoid any further problems.
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Post by Al on Nov 29, 2018 11:53:51 GMT
So if someone else turns up on Saturday and they only got £9 on them for admission, should they be let in too? If the person can only afford £9.00 then yes I would let them in. That's the ethos of a community club in my view. So what about the ten people behind who see the person in front only pay £9 for admission? Are you going to charge them full price or reduce it for them? What if another person only has £8 on them and tries it on to get in off the back of the other lot?
Do you see where I'm going with this? It's unworkable. Yes we are a community club, and that is why the admission has been reduced from £15 to £10 for the main stand, and probably likewise elsewhere around the ground, but there's a set admission cost for a reason.
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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 29, 2018 12:07:03 GMT
So if someone else turns up on Saturday and they only got £9 on them for admission, should they be let in too? If the person can only afford £9.00 then yes I would let them in. That's the ethos of a community club in my view. Let’s charge nothing and play our games on Hoole Coronation Rec, proper community club. |
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 29, 2018 12:07:58 GMT
I don’t disagree with your sentiment, but your tone is one of blame and bitterness. Prices are set for a reason. You can’t expect to go to any event and be able to haggle the admission fee. Everone who's commented on this bar one seems to be missing the point. If you'd bother to read my other thread about Goals you'd understand. I asked the manager to ask kids on a sat to try and get them in to the ground after playing football. I told her it's only £3.00 for kids to get in. She at least tried to get kids in which I'm certain it's more than any of you lot have done. By putting the price up to £5.00 has put them off. And I attended on Tues and I didn't realise it was £5.00 for kids as my lad didn't want to go. THE POINT IS...... Kids are the life of this club and until the club see that it will only go downhill. You told her? So it's your fault then, not the clubs. |
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Post by dmcnally on Nov 29, 2018 12:17:05 GMT
Sorry but why should they be allowed in for £3 when everyone else in that age bracket has paid a fiver? The error is down to Goals giving out incorrect information. The OP should be asking why Goals have given out the wrong price and potentially put off 3 young lads from coming to a match in future To attract new fans. If they only had three quid on them then let them in. They may have also appreciated the gesture of goodwill and decided to come to another match. This is meant to be a community club and therefore if they could only afford £3.00 then the club should have shown capacity and leniency towards them. Speculate to accumulate should be the club's ethos going forward. This club is desperate for new fans and getting people in anyway possible should be the prime objective. Brilliant idea that. Next time I do my weekly shop I’m going to ask to only pay half of it!. |
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Post by bing on Nov 29, 2018 12:19:03 GMT
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Post by mcseal on Nov 29, 2018 12:21:27 GMT
Isn't the point here that it seems nonsensical to charge kids £3 for a league game and £5 for a Trophy game.
Did anyone realise that that this was the case? Did we try and persuade Southport that Kids should be charged £3 for this game ? If so, and they weren't for budging then fair enough there's nothing we can do about it.
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Post by dmcnally on Nov 29, 2018 12:22:18 GMT
I don’t disagree with your sentiment, but your tone is one of blame and bitterness. Prices are set for a reason. You can’t expect to go to any event and be able to haggle the admission fee. Everone who's commented on this bar one seems to be missing the point. If you'd bother to read my other thread about Goals you'd understand. I asked the manager to ask kids on a sat to try and get them in to the ground after playing football. I told her it's only £3.00 for kids to get in. She at least tried to get kids in which I'm certain it's more than any of you lot have done. By putting the price up to £5.00 has put them off. And I attended on Tues and I didn't realise it was £5.00 for kids as my lad didn't want to go. THE POINT IS...... Kids are the life of this club and until the club see that it will only go downhill. Of course they see it. It’s why those same kids, even up to 17 years old can get into the big league game against Darlington for ONE POUND on Saturday. But because we had to agree to Southport’s crazy kids prices for ONE game which actually just highlights how well we price it for kids it’s suddenly a massive issue? Maybe those kids will turn up with three pound on Saturday and end up with £2 spare. Will you be coming on here “CHESTER DOOMED PART 2 they only paid one pound so the club lost out on £2 we are dooooooomed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” |
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