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Post by eportblue on Dec 27, 2018 11:46:56 GMT
I was on the right hand side of the terrace as you looked at the pitch with my son who is 8, after the final whistle was blown we came down to the front walkway and he began to clap the players and the manager who was approaching the fans by then, there was quite a big fella stood there, in a grey coat who had been in the walkway for almost the entire match shouting abuse at our players and some extra pleasant words of encouragement for Ryan Astles (a good player for us in the couple of years he was at Chester) the fella in question turned to my son and said “why are you clapping them they’re crap” he turned to the fella and said because I’m a Chester supporter and I want to and I’m clapping Southport as well, I had to laugh and joined in with him to clap both teams off much to the disgust of our new friend in the grey😂 We go to all home games and a lot of away games the abuse the players got was nothing compared to what they got at Kidderminster last year in the FA Cup which was the worst I have seen in recent times but I guess that is due to the fact most of our supporters know this is a good Chester team who work hard for each other the managers and the fans each week. As I was leaving the stadium I did see some supporters exchanging words with a lady who I’m guessing was one of the players wives and I thought what a shame she has to put up with that abuse for supporting her husband and putting up with him leaving the house on Boxing Day (which I know he gets paid to do so before anyone says it) to entertain us all when she would probably prefer to be at home as would he given the choice. Hope you all had a good Christmas🎅🔵⚪️🔵⚪️ When bananaman got taken away the fella in grey was having a pop at the steward, was it him that had a pop At Howsons Mrs? I don't recall seeing him at matches before. Yes it was the same guy giving the steward abuse about banana man, although not the same guy giving grief to the wife at the point I was there as he was still gobbing of at the manager.
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Post by uptheseals on Dec 27, 2018 12:11:25 GMT
Justice for banana man
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Post by btb on Dec 27, 2018 12:23:20 GMT
He needs to work on the timings of his pitch invasions.
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Post by trev on Dec 27, 2018 12:23:54 GMT
What I don't understand is that I have been watching the blues for 30 years and I have never known so many reported issues between fans and family members of the managers and players. Why has this suddenly becoming such a problem? Are relatives/ girlfriends/wife’s unused to criticism of the players given recent success at Salford and other smaller Clubs? And whilst nor defending the actions of a handful of idiots today , why potentially provoke matters such as making a point of clapping the players off after such a poor performance ? The unfortunate twitter comments of Mrs Shenton also spring to mind earlier in the season. Mrs Shenton, Morley and Howson have questions to answer.......... But, these managers/players family members do have propensity to take to social media as a result of any criticism, however mild from Chester fans, unlike any group at the club previously. This does little for the reputation of the Club and potentially undermines the great community work it does. The incident reported by Steve Howson, which I didn’t see, sounds extremely serious and is potentially a police matter. Whilst I can fully understand his anger wouldn’t this have been best dealt with/investigated by the Clubs in the first instance rather than being reported by him on social media?
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Post by Jack on Dec 27, 2018 12:29:25 GMT
What I don't understand is that I have been watching the blues for 30 years and I have never known so many reported issues between fans and family members of the managers and players. Why has this suddenly becoming such a problem? Are relatives/ girlfriends/wife’s unused to criticism of the players given recent success at Salford and other smaller Clubs? And whilst nor defending the actions of a handful of idiots today , why potentially provoke matters such as making a point of clapping the players off after such a poor performance ? The unfortunate twitter comments of Mrs Shenton also spring to mind earlier in the season. Fully entitled to clap them off, many fans will do so every game. As a complete side point I’ve heard and seen more from wives, girlfriends and relatives in the past five months then I have in 25 years previously. Don’t know if it’s a coincidence with this group of players or just a sign of the times with social media and all that. The alleged incident to Howson’s partner is an aside, as that’s out of order however you look at it as is anything that goes ovr the top. But I do think some of them have a tendency to blow up like a bottle of pop over some pretty small trivial things, like if they hear some criticism that isn’t nasty, but actually pretty fair, calm and constructive. There’s a lady who I think is related to Morley (not his wife) who really unnecessarily stirred it up at Telford for example shoving her camera in peoples faces. Noticed Shenton’s wife has got stuck in again this morning like after she did after Telford as well. Agree with a lot of this. The behaviour towards Steve Howson's wife is truly pathetic. To put your hands on anybody else is simply not acceptable, particularly when all she was doing is applauding the team. I don't even need to find out the culprit, I already know he's a small-man syndrome low-life who people spend their lives actively trying to avoid. That being said, there definitely appears to be a culture with this squad of players where their family members are very much involved. What they have to realise is that their partners are now not playing for Ramsbottom United, where they know everybody in the crowd by first name. They are playing for a football club with a much larger fanbase. I don't in any way mean to excuse pathetic behaviour by grown men, but they must see that 99% of our support are no problem whatsoever, nice people who are passionate about their club - exactly the same as at Ramsbottom or Salford. However, with larger numbers comes a larger ratio of dickheads. There does seem a few family members at away games, or on twitter, who are desperate to stick the knife in about the club and the support - Mrs Shenton in particular seems to revel in it. A bit of common sense needs to prevail here, we're talking about a tiny minority of silly men who should know better. Every club in the land has them, unfortunately. The Howson incident is unforgivable, but wouldn't be the worst thing for the club, the players and their families to acknowledge that almost 600 travelled away on Boxing Day, the vast majority of whom got right behind the team in the second half. Why give the cretins the attention they crave? As for the game, absolutely saw it coming. Southport aren't a very good football side, but they do make your life difficult. Haig Avenue is easily my least favourite away ground, makes me thankful for the Deva. There's never been anything like an atmosphere there on any of our visits, a soulless place. I think the first goal was going to be key, and they deserved their win. Their style is very in your face and direct, and we tried to match it when it's clear we're a side who need to get it down and out to Mooney/Mahon. I think we'll struggle against them again on New Years Day, they're an awkward side to play. Overall, a dreadful day at the office but we're 3rd. Personally, I'm absolutely delighted how everything is going, one bad performance doesn't change that.
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Post by cfcforme on Dec 27, 2018 16:09:49 GMT
Wasn't there yesterday and certainly not defending what happened, but do we actually know a) that the person that "hit" Howson's wife was a Chester fan, b) that it was an intentional "hit" and c) that he knew who he was "hitting"?
Again, not defending anything that happened, just can't get my head around the fact someone would hit a woman (obviously takes a certain kind of person) and Serb a lot of comment on it but not much in the way of facts or first hand knowledge.
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Also not one to boo myself but is booing not simply a tool akin to the hairdryer treatment by the managers? At the right time, it may have is place (but not saying that place was yesterday).
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Post by bazza on Dec 27, 2018 16:54:26 GMT
No complaints about the result we never got going at all . Bad day all round hopefully things are put right at hereford
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Post by Lobster on Dec 27, 2018 17:31:24 GMT
I’ve seen a lot of “not defending it but...” on this thread. If somebody genuinely hit a woman in the stands (and at least one person appears to have seen it happen) then that’s one of the most disgraceful things I’ve ever heard of at a Chester game and all the ‘buts’ seem trite at best. Shame on that person.
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Post by Hannibal on Dec 27, 2018 18:14:07 GMT
Wasn't there yesterday and certainly not defending what happened, but do we actually know a) that the person that "hit" Howson's wife was a Chester fan, b) that it was an intentional "hit" and c) that he knew who he was "hitting"? Again, not defending anything that happened, just can't get my head around the fact someone would hit a woman (obviously takes a certain kind of person) and Serb a lot of comment on it but not much in the way of facts or first hand knowledge. Edit Also not one to boo myself but is booing not simply a tool akin to the hairdryer treatment by the managers? At the right time, it may have is place (but not saying that place was yesterday). Can't really understand how a slav got in there?
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Post by cfcforme on Dec 27, 2018 18:55:29 GMT
I’ve seen a lot of “not defending it but...” on this thread. If somebody genuinely hit a woman in the stands (and at least one person appears to have seen it happen) then that’s one of the most disgraceful things I’ve ever heard of at a Chester game and all the ‘buts’ seem trite at best. Shame on that person. If you're referring to my comment then think you need to read it again, but hey ho, whatever!
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Post by Lobster on Dec 27, 2018 20:40:27 GMT
I’ve seen a lot of “not defending it but...” on this thread. If somebody genuinely hit a woman in the stands (and at least one person appears to have seen it happen) then that’s one of the most disgraceful things I’ve ever heard of at a Chester game and all the ‘buts’ seem trite at best. Shame on that person. If you're referring to my comment then think you need to read it again, but hey ho, whatever! Not so much referring to you, but I’m surprised at how many posters - many of whom are sensible ones I respect - are kind of quantifying their outrage by almost suggesting the players’ other halfs need to keep their heads down. If innocent people are being physically attacked at matches, that surely is where we need to take a step back and accept that we have a problem, and the old ‘it’s only a small minority’ is not really good enough in my opinion.
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Post by billyw on Dec 27, 2018 21:53:29 GMT
On the official website the club has issued a formal statement regarding the incidents at Southport.
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Post by Anders on Dec 27, 2018 22:17:18 GMT
If you're referring to my comment then think you need to read it again, but hey ho, whatever! Not so much referring to you, but I’m surprised at how many posters - many of whom are sensible ones I respect - are kind of quantifying their outrage by almost suggesting the players’ other halfs need to keep their heads down. If innocent people are being physically attacked at matches, that surely is where we need to take a step back and accept that we have a problem, and the old ‘it’s only a small minority’ is not really good enough in my opinion. Probably didn’t make myself clear earlier on and you’ve taken it the wrong way. Wasn’t on about Howson’s wife in that sense and nobody needs to ‘keep their head down’ at all. Born out of that incident was another one seeing wives, girlfriends and relatives going on the attack and starting fires on twitter etc etc, stoking it up with innocent fans creating a bit of a divide. Not for the first time either, as I said earlier, seen more of it in the past few months than in my entire years previous supporting Chester. Was going off on a bit of a tangent to be honest on a point that vaguely links to the one at hand.
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Post by Jack on Dec 28, 2018 0:00:32 GMT
If you're referring to my comment then think you need to read it again, but hey ho, whatever! Not so much referring to you, but I’m surprised at how many posters - many of whom are sensible ones I respect - are kind of quantifying their outrage by almost suggesting the players’ other halfs need to keep their heads down. If innocent people are being physically attacked at matches, that surely is where we need to take a step back and accept that we have a problem, and the old ‘it’s only a small minority’ is not really good enough in my opinion. I think we've got to be careful not to sensationalise it all too much, but I see your point. I cannot see anybody remotely condoning or understanding the incident. It's appalling and the club have issued a good statement on it's intentions. I do think there is a point to be made regarding the amount of times we've had families of players going on Twitter or getting overly involved in a situation that can be dealt with without interference. On Twitter today, you only have to look as far as one player's partner to see the quote 'I've never seen the likes of these 'fans' before'. It's not helpful, particularly when - as always - the vast, vast majority of supporters were right behind the team and appalled at all of this nonsense. I think the families involved here are not used to hearing any level of criticism whatsoever, but need to be careful not to make sweeping statements and tar all of the support with the same brush - we are literally talking about 3 or 4 idiots out of 600.
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Post by chislenko on Dec 28, 2018 9:27:23 GMT
Wasn't there yesterday and certainly not defending what happened, but do we actually know a) that the person that "hit" Howson's wife was a Chester fan, b) that it was an intentional "hit" and c) that he knew who he was "hitting"? Again, not defending anything that happened, just can't get my head around the fact someone would hit a woman (obviously takes a certain kind of person) and Serb a lot of comment on it but not much in the way of facts or first hand knowledge. Edit Also not one to boo myself but is booing not simply a tool akin to the hairdryer treatment by the managers? At the right time, it may have is place (but not saying that place was yesterday). Can't really understand how a slav got in there? Isn't that what happened in the Balkans war, blame the Serbs, without doing any real research, because the BBC said they were to blame.
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Post by Hannibal on Dec 28, 2018 11:48:56 GMT
Can't really understand how a slav got in there? Isn't that what happened in the Balkans war, blame the Serbs, without doing any real research, because the BBC said they were to blame. I don't think so!
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